RE: Backup - recommendation please?
Doesn't Live Vault backup the file only after it is closed? It appears as if some files never get closed. But Live Vault is a solid choice. Greg -Original Message- From: Dempster, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 12:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup - recommendation please? Thanks, Mark (and everyone else that replied). I'll look into that. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 02:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup - recommendation please? Yes, LiveVault is what you are looking for. Real time backup. http://vs46311.server-store.com/store/page.inetstore?id=3 http://vs46311.server-store.com/store/page.inetstore?id=3 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: September 28, 2001 9:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup - recommendation please? Seems to me something like livevault (I think that was it) would work. -Original Message- From: Dempster, Mark [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Backup - recommendation please? Hi, I'm looking for a backup solution for a new customer. We normally use unenhanced versions of Backup Exec or Arcserve, back the system up out of hours. Unfortunately this customer needs to work 24/7. The software my company produces uses a well-known accounting package at its core, which stores its data in a very large number of files which are related to each other. It isn't possible to use a normal 'backup open files' approach since if two related files are backed up - but new data has been added in-between - restoring them will leave the system in an inconsistent state. So, I think what's needed (if such a thing exists) is a product that will take a snapshot of an entire directory (inc. subdirs) and back that up - while leaving the system usable (a moderate slowdown is acceptable). Does anyone know if there's an add-on for our normal backup tools (or even a completely different product) that can do what I'm asking? If so, what's your experience of it? Thanks, Mark Mark Dempster Technical Consultant Infor:Swan Business Solutions Me transmitte sursum, Caledoni! _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/
RE: Backup - recommendation please?
Title: RE: Backup - recommendation please? Unless I got my demos crossed, I thought it could handle open files. You should be able to retrieve a deleted e-mail immediately if I'm not mistaken (I know, bad example) -Original Message- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup - recommendation please? Doesn't Live Vault backup the file only after it is closed? It appears as if some files never get closed. But Live Vault is a solid choice. Greg -Original Message- From: Dempster, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 12:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup - recommendation please? Thanks, Mark (and everyone else that replied). I'll look into that. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 02:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup - recommendation please? Yes, LiveVault is what you are looking for. Real time backup. http://vs46311.server-store.com/store/page.inetstore?id=3 http://vs46311.server-store.com/store/page.inetstore?id=3 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: September 28, 2001 9:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup - recommendation please? Seems to me something like livevault (I think that was it) would work. -Original Message- From: Dempster, Mark [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Backup - recommendation please? Hi, I'm looking for a backup solution for a new customer. We normally use unenhanced versions of Backup Exec or Arcserve, back the system up out of hours. Unfortunately this customer needs to work 24/7. The software my company produces uses a well-known accounting package at its core, which stores its data in a very large number of files which are related to each other. It isn't possible to use a normal 'backup open files' approach since if two related files are backed up - but new data has been added in-between - restoring them will leave the system in an inconsistent state. So, I think what's needed (if such a thing exists) is a product that will take a snapshot of an entire directory (inc. subdirs) and back that up - while leaving the system usable (a moderate slowdown is acceptable). Does anyone know if there's an add-on for our normal backup tools (or even a completely different product) that can do what I'm asking? If so, what's your experience of it? Thanks, Mark Mark Dempster Technical Consultant Infor:Swan Business Solutions Me transmitte sursum, Caledoni! _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/
RE: Backup - recommendation please?
You could put the information onto a SAN and snapshot it. In that scenario you could then backup from the snapshot at your leisure as well as have that realtime backup ready to go. Check with www.datacore.com they have offices in the UK as well. Another scenario is to backup using the open files options. You could just always run a continous backup using some robotic arm based tape drives from overland data or various vendors. Doubletake and other programs may offer you 'snapshots' of the system that you could backup as well. -Original Message- From: Dempster, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 5:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Backup - recommendation please? Hi, I'm looking for a backup solution for a new customer. We normally use unenhanced versions of Backup Exec or Arcserve, back the system up out of hours. Unfortunately this customer needs to work 24/7. The software my company produces uses a well-known accounting package at its core, which stores its data in a very large number of files which are related to each other. It isn't possible to use a normal 'backup open files' approach since if two related files are backed up - but new data has been added in-between - restoring them will leave the system in an inconsistent state. So, I think what's needed (if such a thing exists) is a product that will take a snapshot of an entire directory (inc. subdirs) and back that up - while leaving the system usable (a moderate slowdown is acceptable). Does anyone know if there's an add-on for our normal backup tools (or even a completely different product) that can do what I'm asking? If so, what's your experience of it? Thanks, Mark Mark Dempster Technical Consultant Infor:Swan Business Solutions Me transmitte sursum, Caledoni! _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/
RE: Backup - recommendation please?
Yes, LiveVault is what you are looking for. Real time backup. http://vs46311.server-store.com/store/page.inetstore?id=3 http://vs46311.server-store.com/store/page.inetstore?id=3 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: September 28, 2001 9:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup - recommendation please? Seems to me something like livevault (I think that was it) would work. -Original Message- From: Dempster, Mark [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Backup - recommendation please? Hi, I'm looking for a backup solution for a new customer. We normally use unenhanced versions of Backup Exec or Arcserve, back the system up out of hours. Unfortunately this customer needs to work 24/7. The software my company produces uses a well-known accounting package at its core, which stores its data in a very large number of files which are related to each other. It isn't possible to use a normal 'backup open files' approach since if two related files are backed up - but new data has been added in-between - restoring them will leave the system in an inconsistent state. So, I think what's needed (if such a thing exists) is a product that will take a snapshot of an entire directory (inc. subdirs) and back that up - while leaving the system usable (a moderate slowdown is acceptable). Does anyone know if there's an add-on for our normal backup tools (or even a completely different product) that can do what I'm asking? If so, what's your experience of it? Thanks, Mark Mark Dempster Technical Consultant Infor:Swan Business Solutions Me transmitte sursum, Caledoni! _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/
RE: Backup - recommendation please?
Title: Message That's the fuzzy part, I can't remember what it does with open files. I demoed Live Vault a couple years ago and almost went with it but the company decided to sell themselves andI didn't do it. Great concept. They like what I was already doing because it coincided with their concept (a central backup site). Greg -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 5:41 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup - recommendation please? Unless I got my demos crossed, I thought it could handle open files. You should be able to retrieve a deleted e-mail immediately if I'm not mistaken (I know, bad example) -Original Message- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup - recommendation please? Doesn't Live Vault backup the file only after it is closed? It appears as if some files never get closed. But Live Vault is a solid choice. Greg -Original Message- From: Dempster, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 12:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup - recommendation please? Thanks, Mark (and everyone else that replied). I'll look into that. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 02:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup - recommendation please? Yes, LiveVault is what you are looking for. Real time backup. http://vs46311.server-store.com/store/page.inetstore?id=3 http://vs46311.server-store.com/store/page.inetstore?id=3 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: September 28, 2001 9:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup - recommendation please? Seems to me something like livevault (I think that was it) would work. -Original Message- From: Dempster, Mark [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Backup - recommendation please? Hi, I'm looking for a backup solution for a new customer. We normally use unenhanced versions of Backup Exec or Arcserve, back the system up out of hours. Unfortunately this customer needs to work 24/7. The software my company produces uses a well-known accounting package at its core, which stores its data in a very large number of files which are related to each other. It isn't possible to use a normal 'backup open files' approach since if two related files are backed up - but new data has been added in-between - restoring them will leave the system in an inconsistent state. So, I think what's needed (if such a thing exists) is a product that will take a snapshot of an entire directory (inc. subdirs) and back that up - while leaving the system usable (a moderate slowdown is acceptable). Does anyone know if there's an add-on for our normal backup tools (or even a completely different product) that can do what I'm asking? If so, what's your experience of it? Thanks, Mark Mark Dempster Technical Consultant Infor:Swan Business Solutions Me transmitte sursum, Caledoni! _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details
