RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-02 Thread David Lum 
"This is especially useful if I'm not at a computer most of that day and i 
badly need
to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform today"

How a out a BlackBerry or other device to check mail when not at your PC? Set 
an alarm for 7:45a to remind you to check your e-mail?

Not a complete solution per se, but a thought.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 9:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my 
inbox/folder

I have several emails i get every day that notify when a job is finished;
some of these emails come from legacy systems that don't allow much control
for me.

Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in Outlook
(probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if one
of these daily emails don't get sent to me?

For instance, i receive a particular email from an email archive product
every morning at 7:30am. But if i don't receive it; i would like to create
some kind of rule that would implement an action of my choosing (even a
script of my choosing) to notify me that i didn't receive that email today.
This is especially useful if i'm not at a computer most of that day and i badly 
need
to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform today.

I've probably over explained this; but i think you guys might get the jist.


-BenN





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Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-02 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming 
On 1 Jun 2009 at 9:55, Ben Nordlander  wrote:

> I have several emails i get every day that notify when a job is finished;
> some of these emails come from legacy systems that don't allow much control
> for me. 
> 
> Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in Outlook
> (probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if one of
> these daily emails don't get sent to me? 
> 
> For instance, i receive a particular email from an email archive product
> every morning at 7:30am. But if i don't receive it; i would like to create
> some kind of rule that would implement an action of my choosing (even a
> script of my choosing) to notify me that i didn't receive that email today.
> This is especially useful if i'm not at a computer most of that day and i
> badly need to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform
> today. 

Sure, here's the logic, you'll have to manipulate it to work for your 
situation.

One of the Actions that Outlook can take when an email comes in is "run a 
script".  Create a script that creates a flag-file, and run that script when 
the archive email arrives:

  echo ARCHIVE EMAIL CAME IN>"%temp%\ARCHIVE.TXT"

Now create a scheduled task that runs every day at 7:45 AM.  Run a batch file 
that checks to see if "%temp%\ARCHIVE.TXT" exists.  If it exists, delete it and 
exit.  If it doesn't exist, use BLAT to send an email to you.  Here's an 
untested sample batch-file:

  if exist "%temp%\ARCHIVE.TXT" goto ItRan
  echo Archive didn't run > "%temp%\ARCHIVE.TXT"
  blat "%temp%\ARCHIVE.TXT" -to bennordlan...@gmail.com -subject "No Archive"
  :ItRan
  del "%temp%\ARCHIVE.TXT"

Google or BING for BLAT, it's a very useful free tool.

HTH

A

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Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
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Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Ben Nordlander 
can't you point me in the right direction for OpsMgr? We do have it.

-Ben

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Michael B. Smith
wrote:

>  That's pretty good.
>
> You can (i.e., the royal "you", the OP) do what you want with OpsMgr. If an
> e-mail didn't get sent - generate an alert. It's pretty easy.
>
> But if you don't have OpsMgr - well, forget my idea. :-P
>
>  --
> *From:* Jacob [ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 01, 2009 5:05 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
> inbox/folder
>
>   I have various ColdFusion scripts that run off hours and generate emails
> when the script has finished.
>
>
>
> In Outlook, I have a folder call AutomatedScripts.  Below this folder, I
> have a folder and for each script that runs and suppose to send an email. I
> have a filter to send the email to the correct folder.
>
>
>
> When I come in the next morning, I expand AutomatedScripts and any folder
> that is not *bold* does not have a email in it. I know that script did not
> run, had an error, or is not finished.
>
>
>
> I have about 20 automated scripts, so it is not to hard to manage.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 01, 2009 10:37 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
> inbox/folder
>
>
>
> but that is exactly what i'm looking for. a method to detect an absence of
> an email. I can't be the only dude in town that has this need heh.
>
> -BenN
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Carl Houseman 
> wrote:
>
> A rule requires an inbound message to trigger it.  The absence of a message
> can't cause a rule to fire.  You'll need to create a separate watchguard
> system to monitor the legacy system and send an E-mail if the legacy system
> hasn't done what it's supposed to do.  And then, if the watchguard system
> isn't reliable, you'll have to create a watchguard for the watchguard, and
> then, ...
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> *From:* Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 01, 2009 12:56 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
> inbox/folder
>
>
>
> I have several emails i get every day that notify when a job is finished;
> some of these emails come from legacy systems that don't allow much control
> for me.
>
> Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in Outlook
> (probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if one
> of these daily emails don't get sent to me?
>
> For instance, i receive a particular email from an email archive product
> every morning at 7:30am. But if i don't receive it; i would like to create
> some kind of rule that would implement an action of my choosing (even a
> script of my choosing) to notify me that i didn't receive that email today.
> This is especially useful if i'm not at a computer most of that day and i
> badly need
> to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform today.
>
> I've probably over explained this; but i think you guys might get the jist.
>
>
> -BenN
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>

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RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith 
That's pretty good.

You can (i.e., the royal "you", the OP) do what you want with OpsMgr. If an 
e-mail didn't get sent - generate an alert. It's pretty easy.

But if you don't have OpsMgr - well, forget my idea. :-P


From: Jacob [ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my 
inbox/folder

I have various ColdFusion scripts that run off hours and generate emails when 
the script has finished.

In Outlook, I have a folder call AutomatedScripts.  Below this folder, I have a 
folder and for each script that runs and suppose to send an email. I have a 
filter to send the email to the correct folder.

When I come in the next morning, I expand AutomatedScripts and any folder that 
is not bold does not have a email in it. I know that script did not run, had an 
error, or is not finished.

I have about 20 automated scripts, so it is not to hard to manage.

From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my 
inbox/folder

but that is exactly what i'm looking for. a method to detect an absence of an 
email. I can't be the only dude in town that has this need heh.

-BenN
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Carl Houseman 
mailto:c.house...@gmail.com>> wrote:

A rule requires an inbound message to trigger it.  The absence of a message 
can't cause a rule to fire.  You'll need to create a separate watchguard system 
to monitor the legacy system and send an E-mail if the legacy system hasn't 
done what it's supposed to do.  And then, if the watchguard system isn't 
reliable, you'll have to create a watchguard for the watchguard, and then, ...



Carl



From: Ben Nordlander 
[mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com<mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my 
inbox/folder



I have several emails i get every day that notify when a job is finished;
some of these emails come from legacy systems that don't allow much control
for me.

Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in Outlook
(probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if one
of these daily emails don't get sent to me?

For instance, i receive a particular email from an email archive product
every morning at 7:30am. But if i don't receive it; i would like to create
some kind of rule that would implement an action of my choosing (even a
script of my choosing) to notify me that i didn't receive that email today.
This is especially useful if i'm not at a computer most of that day and i badly 
need
to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform today.

I've probably over explained this; but i think you guys might get the jist.


-BenN
















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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Jacob 
I have various ColdFusion scripts that run off hours and generate emails
when the script has finished.

 

In Outlook, I have a folder call AutomatedScripts.  Below this folder, I
have a folder and for each script that runs and suppose to send an email. I
have a filter to send the email to the correct folder.

 

When I come in the next morning, I expand AutomatedScripts and any folder
that is not bold does not have a email in it. I know that script did not
run, had an error, or is not finished.

 

I have about 20 automated scripts, so it is not to hard to manage.

 

From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
inbox/folder

 

but that is exactly what i'm looking for. a method to detect an absence of
an email. I can't be the only dude in town that has this need heh.

-BenN

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Carl Houseman  wrote:

A rule requires an inbound message to trigger it.  The absence of a message
can't cause a rule to fire.  You'll need to create a separate watchguard
system to monitor the legacy system and send an E-mail if the legacy system
hasn't done what it's supposed to do.  And then, if the watchguard system
isn't reliable, you'll have to create a watchguard for the watchguard, and
then, ...

 

Carl

 

From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
inbox/folder

 

I have several emails i get every day that notify when a job is finished;
some of these emails come from legacy systems that don't allow much control
for me.

Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in Outlook
(probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if one
of these daily emails don't get sent to me?

For instance, i receive a particular email from an email archive product
every morning at 7:30am. But if i don't receive it; i would like to create
some kind of rule that would implement an action of my choosing (even a
script of my choosing) to notify me that i didn't receive that email today.
This is especially useful if i'm not at a computer most of that day and i
badly need
to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform today.

I've probably over explained this; but i think you guys might get the jist.


-BenN

 

 

 

 

 

 

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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Webster 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in
> my inbox/folder
> 
>   I thought the whole point of computers was to automate information
> processing tasks...  :)

You are sadly mistaken.  The whole point of computers is to keep us employed
(and allow us to play games and keep up with ME2 on Facebook).


Webster


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Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Ben Scott 
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Ben Nordlander  wrote:
> That is very interesting. i would love to see an example of this script.

http://pastebin.com/f5646396f

-- Ben

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RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread N Parr 
Isn't it interesting how the more we automate the busier we get.   

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 3:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my 
inbox/folder

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:06 PM, N Parr  wrote:
> Sorry but that still seems kind of redundant to me.  So it's going to 
> email him if the file isn't there.

  I thought the whole point of computers was to automate information processing 
tasks...  :)

-- Ben

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Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Ben Scott 
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:06 PM, N Parr  wrote:
> Sorry but that still seems kind of redundant to me.  So it's going to email
> him if the file isn't there.

  I thought the whole point of computers was to automate information
processing tasks...  :)

-- Ben

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Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin Lundy 
Although I somewhat agree that it is repetitiously redundant, I have a
similar thought on a solution:

Create a rule that fires when the email comes in:
A) creates a task "check why the archive didn't email you", due tomorrow
B) marks today's task as complete

So then you come into work "today".  Look at today's tasks, nothing to
do.  All ok.
Problem occurs overnight
Lack of email causes the task created in A to still be due
After coffee "tomorrow", you see you have a task due today.

Honestly, I don't know if B can be done.  This is overkill like others
have said.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:06 PM, N Parr  wrote:
> Sorry but that still seems kind of redundant to me.  So it's going to email
> him if the file isn't there.  If he could pay attention to his email in the
> first place he wouldn't need a script to do something if the email didn't
> show up.  I guess it would be ok if it were to email someone else so in case
> you aren't available they could handle the problem or call you.
> 
> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:58 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
> inbox/folder
>
> Brilliant idea.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: David L Herrick [mailto:davidherr...@nincal.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:45 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
> inbox/folder
>
>
>
> I think the best you can do is two scripts One triggered by an outlook rule
> that creates a specific file when you do receive the email and the second
> that checks for the presence of said file- deletes it if it is there, so you
> are set for tomorrow else emails you that it is not there
>
>
>
>
>
> Good luck
>
>
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:37 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
> inbox/folder
>
>
>
> but that is exactly what i'm looking for. a method to detect an absence of
> an email. I can't be the only dude in town that has this need heh.
>
> -BenN
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Carl Houseman  wrote:
>
> A rule requires an inbound message to trigger it.  The absence of a message
> can't cause a rule to fire.  You'll need to create a separate watchguard
> system to monitor the legacy system and send an E-mail if the legacy system
> hasn't done what it's supposed to do.  And then, if the watchguard system
> isn't reliable, you'll have to create a watchguard for the watchguard, and
> then, ...
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:56 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
> inbox/folder
>
>
>
> I have several emails i get every day that notify when a job is finished;
> some of these emails come from legacy systems that don't allow much control
> for me.
>
> Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in Outlook
> (probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if one
> of these daily emails don't get sent to me?
>
> For instance, i receive a particular email from an email archive product
> every morning at 7:30am. But if i don't receive it; i would like to create
> some kind of rule that would implement an action of my choosing (even a
> script of my choosing) to notify me that i didn't receive that email today.
> This is especially useful if i'm not at a computer most of that day and i
> badly need
> to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform today.
>
> I've probably over explained this; but i think you guys might get the jist.
>
>
> -BenN
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Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Don Kuhlman 
Hi BenN - you could definitely use blat to send the emails. I know that doesn't 
help if the sender isn't sending anything, but it can definitely give you 
notifications from the device if it is working.

 




From: Ben Nordlander 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 2:57:14 PM
Subject: Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my 
inbox/folder

That is very interesting. i would love to see an example of this script.

You guys crack me up. I do love work and reading emails; but i won't get into 
too much detail on why this would be extremely useful for me heh. I get a ton 
of emails as it is and reading them day after day does not mean i can point out 
what is usually there that should be given my current situation.
Ideally; i would setup some way to sms text me if this daily email wasn't 
delivered to my inbox or one of it's folders if i had a rule for that. 
Actually. i have about half a dozen of these types of emails i would use this 
against.

Thanks again for these great ideas.

-BenN


On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Ben Nordlander  wrote:
> Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in Outlook
> (probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if one
> of these daily emails don't get sent to me?

 I don't believe this can be done in Outlook Rules.  Outlook Rules
fire in response to mail being received, and are fairly limited in
what they can do.

 It is possible, however, to run an external script on a schedule,
and have that script talk to Outlook and see if the mail you want is
there.  That script can then do what you want it to.  You'd need to
run this on a computer with credentials that let it access your
mailbox and Outlook, though.  That probably means leaving your desktop
logged in as you.

 I don't have such a thing read-made.  I've got a script that grovels
the public folder tree looking for keywords, though; that might be a
starting point for you.  Let me know if you're interested.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Ben Nordlander 
That is very interesting. i would love to see an example of this script.

You guys crack me up. I do love work and reading emails; but i won't get
into too much detail on why this would be extremely useful for me heh. I get
a ton of emails as it is and reading them day after day does not mean i can
point out what is usually there that should be given my current situation.
Ideally; i would setup some way to sms text me if this daily email wasn't
delivered to my inbox or one of it's folders if i had a rule for that.
Actually. i have about half a dozen of these types of emails i would use
this against.

Thanks again for these great ideas.

-BenN

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Ben Nordlander 
> wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in
> Outlook
> > (probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if
> one
> > of these daily emails don't get sent to me?
>
>   I don't believe this can be done in Outlook Rules.  Outlook Rules
> fire in response to mail being received, and are fairly limited in
> what they can do.
>
>  It is possible, however, to run an external script on a schedule,
> and have that script talk to Outlook and see if the mail you want is
> there.  That script can then do what you want it to.  You'd need to
> run this on a computer with credentials that let it access your
> mailbox and Outlook, though.  That probably means leaving your desktop
> logged in as you.
>
>  I don't have such a thing read-made.  I've got a script that grovels
> the public folder tree looking for keywords, though; that might be a
> starting point for you.  Let me know if you're interested.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

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Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Don Kuhlman 
Are we saying that you want a notification in email if you didn't get an email?

If the client was set to always send an email regardless of what happened, you 
could filter on the contents of the email to look for an attachment or no 
attachment, or some keyword that you build into the email you are sending to 
help you figure out if the job worked or not.

If the client device that is sending the notifications has a command prompt and 
can run code, you could use the free tool like blat - www.blat.net/194/ which 
is really  handy and can do all kinds of stuff with files and attachments.  You 
can build distribution lists with email addresses, etc.

Other than that, not sure how you tell Outlook to look for the lack of an email?






From: N Parr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 1:06:27 PM
Subject: RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my 
inbox/folder


Sorry but that still seems kind of redundant to me.  So it's going to email him 
if the file isn't there.  If he could pay attention to his email in the first 
place he wouldn't need a script to do something if the email didn't show up.  I 
guess it would be ok if it were to email someone else so in case you aren't 
available they could handle the problem or call you.



From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my 
inbox/folder


Brilliant idea.
 
 
From:David L Herrick [mailto:davidherr...@nincal.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my 
inbox/folder
 
I think the best you can do is two scripts One triggered by an outlook rule 
that creates a specific file when you do receive the email and the second that 
checks for the presence of said file- deletes it if it is there, so you are set 
for tomorrow else emails you that it is not there
 
 
Good luck
 
David
 
 
 
From:Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my 
inbox/folder
 
but that is exactly what i'm looking for. a method to detect an absence of an 
email. I can't be the only dude in town that has this need heh.

-BenN
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Carl Houseman  wrote:
A rule requires an inbound message to trigger it.  The absence of a message 
can't cause a rule to fire.  You'll need to create a separate watchguard system 
to monitor the legacy system and send an E-mail if the legacy system hasn't 
done what it's supposed to do.  And then, if the watchguard system isn't 
reliable, you'll have to create a watchguard for the watchguard, and then, ...
 
Carl
 
From:Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my 
inbox/folder
 
I have several emails i get every day that notify when a job is finished;
some of these emails come from legacy systems that don't allow much control
for me.

Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in Outlook
(probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if one
of these daily emails don't get sent to me?

For instance, i receive a particular email from an email archive product
every morning at 7:30am. But if i don't receive it; i would like to create
some kind of rule that would implement an action of my choosing (even a
script of my choosing) to notify me that i didn't receive that email today.
This is especially useful if i'm not at a computer most of that day and i badly 
need
to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform today.

I've probably over explained this; but i think you guys might get the jist.


-BenN
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Ben Scott 
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Ben Nordlander  wrote:
> Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in Outlook
> (probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if one
> of these daily emails don't get sent to me?

  I don't believe this can be done in Outlook Rules.  Outlook Rules
fire in response to mail being received, and are fairly limited in
what they can do.

  It is possible, however, to run an external script on a schedule,
and have that script talk to Outlook and see if the mail you want is
there.  That script can then do what you want it to.  You'd need to
run this on a computer with credentials that let it access your
mailbox and Outlook, though.  That probably means leaving your desktop
logged in as you.

  I don't have such a thing read-made.  I've got a script that grovels
the public folder tree looking for keywords, though; that might be a
starting point for you.  Let me know if you're interested.

-- Ben

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RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread N Parr 
Sorry but that still seems kind of redundant to me.  So it's going to
email him if the file isn't there.  If he could pay attention to his
email in the first place he wouldn't need a script to do something if
the email didn't show up.  I guess it would be ok if it were to email
someone else so in case you aren't available they could handle the
problem or call you.



From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
inbox/folder



Brilliant idea.

 

 

From: David L Herrick [mailto:davidherr...@nincal.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
inbox/folder

 

I think the best you can do is two scripts One triggered by an outlook
rule that creates a specific file when you do receive the email and the
second that checks for the presence of said file- deletes it if it is
there, so you are set for tomorrow else emails you that it is not there

 

 

Good luck

 

David

 

 

 

From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
inbox/folder

 

but that is exactly what i'm looking for. a method to detect an absence
of an email. I can't be the only dude in town that has this need heh.

-BenN

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Carl Houseman 
wrote:

A rule requires an inbound message to trigger it.  The absence of a
message can't cause a rule to fire.  You'll need to create a separate
watchguard system to monitor the legacy system and send an E-mail if the
legacy system hasn't done what it's supposed to do.  And then, if the
watchguard system isn't reliable, you'll have to create a watchguard for
the watchguard, and then, ...

 

Carl

  

From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
inbox/folder

 

I have several emails i get every day that notify when a job is
finished;
some of these emails come from legacy systems that don't allow much
control
for me.

Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in
Outlook
(probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if
one
of these daily emails don't get sent to me?

For instance, i receive a particular email from an email archive product
every morning at 7:30am. But if i don't receive it; i would like to
create
some kind of rule that would implement an action of my choosing (even a
script of my choosing) to notify me that i didn't receive that email
today.
This is especially useful if i'm not at a computer most of that day and
i badly need
to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform today.

I've probably over explained this; but i think you guys might get the
jist.


-BenN

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Kennedy, Jim 
Brilliant idea.


From: David L Herrick [mailto:davidherr...@nincal.com]
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my 
inbox/folder

I think the best you can do is two scripts One triggered by an outlook rule 
that creates a specific file when you do receive the email and the second that 
checks for the presence of said file- deletes it if it is there, so you are set 
for tomorrow else emails you that it is not there


Good luck

David



From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my 
inbox/folder

but that is exactly what i'm looking for. a method to detect an absence of an 
email. I can't be the only dude in town that has this need heh.

-BenN
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Carl Houseman 
mailto:c.house...@gmail.com>> wrote:

A rule requires an inbound message to trigger it.  The absence of a message 
can't cause a rule to fire.  You'll need to create a separate watchguard system 
to monitor the legacy system and send an E-mail if the legacy system hasn't 
done what it's supposed to do.  And then, if the watchguard system isn't 
reliable, you'll have to create a watchguard for the watchguard, and then, ...



Carl



From: Ben Nordlander 
[mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com<mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my 
inbox/folder



I have several emails i get every day that notify when a job is finished;
some of these emails come from legacy systems that don't allow much control
for me.

Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in Outlook
(probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if one
of these daily emails don't get sent to me?

For instance, i receive a particular email from an email archive product
every morning at 7:30am. But if i don't receive it; i would like to create
some kind of rule that would implement an action of my choosing (even a
script of my choosing) to notify me that i didn't receive that email today.
This is especially useful if i'm not at a computer most of that day and i badly 
need
to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform today.

I've probably over explained this; but i think you guys might get the jist.


-BenN












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RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare 
Just because you want it, doesn't mean it's doable.

 

Carl's right... you need some sort of service to trigger this as an
event.

 

-sc

 

From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
inbox/folder

 

but that is exactly what i'm looking for. a method to detect an absence
of an email. I can't be the only dude in town that has this need heh.

-BenN

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Carl Houseman 
wrote:

A rule requires an inbound message to trigger it.  The absence of a
message can't cause a rule to fire.  You'll need to create a separate
watchguard system to monitor the legacy system and send an E-mail if the
legacy system hasn't done what it's supposed to do.  And then, if the
watchguard system isn't reliable, you'll have to create a watchguard for
the watchguard, and then, ...

 

Carl

 

From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
inbox/folder

 

I have several emails i get every day that notify when a job is
finished;
some of these emails come from legacy systems that don't allow much
control
for me.

Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in
Outlook
(probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if
one
of these daily emails don't get sent to me?

For instance, i receive a particular email from an email archive product
every morning at 7:30am. But if i don't receive it; i would like to
create
some kind of rule that would implement an action of my choosing (even a
script of my choosing) to notify me that i didn't receive that email
today.
This is especially useful if i'm not at a computer most of that day and
i badly need
to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform today.

I've probably over explained this; but i think you guys might get the
jist.


-BenN

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Carl Houseman 
You can set up a recurring task to remind you to look and see if the E-mail
has arrived.

 

Otherwise, there are still some things that aren't easily automated with the
tools already at hand.  The need to do chores such as looking for an E-mail
each day is an old-fashioned concept known as "work".

 

Carl

 

From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
inbox/folder

 

but that is exactly what i'm looking for. a method to detect an absence of
an email. I can't be the only dude in town that has this need heh.

-BenN

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Carl Houseman  wrote:

A rule requires an inbound message to trigger it.  The absence of a message
can't cause a rule to fire.  You'll need to create a separate watchguard
system to monitor the legacy system and send an E-mail if the legacy system
hasn't done what it's supposed to do.  And then, if the watchguard system
isn't reliable, you'll have to create a watchguard for the watchguard, and
then, ...

 

Carl

 

From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
inbox/folder

 

I have several emails i get every day that notify when a job is finished;
some of these emails come from legacy systems that don't allow much control
for me.

Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in Outlook
(probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if one
of these daily emails don't get sent to me?

For instance, i receive a particular email from an email archive product
every morning at 7:30am. But if i don't receive it; i would like to create
some kind of rule that would implement an action of my choosing (even a
script of my choosing) to notify me that i didn't receive that email today.
This is especially useful if i'm not at a computer most of that day and i
badly need
to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform today.

I've probably over explained this; but i think you guys might get the jist.


-BenN

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread David L Herrick 
I think the best you can do is two scripts One triggered by an outlook
rule that creates a specific file when you do receive the email and the
second that checks for the presence of said file- deletes it if it is
there, so you are set for tomorrow else emails you that it is not there

 

 

Good luck

 

David

 

 

 

From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
inbox/folder

 

but that is exactly what i'm looking for. a method to detect an absence
of an email. I can't be the only dude in town that has this need heh.

-BenN

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Carl Houseman 
wrote:

A rule requires an inbound message to trigger it.  The absence of a
message can't cause a rule to fire.  You'll need to create a separate
watchguard system to monitor the legacy system and send an E-mail if the
legacy system hasn't done what it's supposed to do.  And then, if the
watchguard system isn't reliable, you'll have to create a watchguard for
the watchguard, and then, ...

 

Carl

  

From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
inbox/folder

 

I have several emails i get every day that notify when a job is
finished;
some of these emails come from legacy systems that don't allow much
control
for me.

Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in
Outlook
(probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if
one
of these daily emails don't get sent to me?

For instance, i receive a particular email from an email archive product
every morning at 7:30am. But if i don't receive it; i would like to
create
some kind of rule that would implement an action of my choosing (even a
script of my choosing) to notify me that i didn't receive that email
today.
This is especially useful if i'm not at a computer most of that day and
i badly need
to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform today.

I've probably over explained this; but i think you guys might get the
jist.


-BenN

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Re: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Ben Nordlander 
but that is exactly what i'm looking for. a method to detect an absence of
an email. I can't be the only dude in town that has this need heh.

-BenN

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Carl Houseman  wrote:

>  A rule requires an inbound message to trigger it.  The absence of a
> message can't cause a rule to fire.  You'll need to create a separate
> watchguard system to monitor the legacy system and send an E-mail if the
> legacy system hasn't done what it's supposed to do.  And then, if the
> watchguard system isn't reliable, you'll have to create a watchguard for the
> watchguard, and then, ...
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> *From:* Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 01, 2009 12:56 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
> inbox/folder
>
>
>
> I have several emails i get every day that notify when a job is finished;
> some of these emails come from legacy systems that don't allow much control
> for me.
>
> Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in Outlook
> (probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if one
> of these daily emails don't get sent to me?
>
> For instance, i receive a particular email from an email archive product
> every morning at 7:30am. But if i don't receive it; i would like to create
> some kind of rule that would implement an action of my choosing (even a
> script of my choosing) to notify me that i didn't receive that email today.
> This is especially useful if i'm not at a computer most of that day and i
> badly need
> to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform today.
>
> I've probably over explained this; but i think you guys might get the jist.
>
>
> -BenN
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my inbox/folder

2009-06-01 Thread Carl Houseman 
A rule requires an inbound message to trigger it.  The absence of a message
can't cause a rule to fire.  You'll need to create a separate watchguard
system to monitor the legacy system and send an E-mail if the legacy system
hasn't done what it's supposed to do.  And then, if the watchguard system
isn't reliable, you'll have to create a watchguard for the watchguard, and
then, ...

 

Carl

 

From: Ben Nordlander [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Create Rule to notify when a daily email doesn't show in my
inbox/folder

 

I have several emails i get every day that notify when a job is finished;
some of these emails come from legacy systems that don't allow much control
for me.

Does anyone know of a method to create some type of notification in Outlook
(probably using rules) that would allow for some extra notification if one
of these daily emails don't get sent to me?

For instance, i receive a particular email from an email archive product
every morning at 7:30am. But if i don't receive it; i would like to create
some kind of rule that would implement an action of my choosing (even a
script of my choosing) to notify me that i didn't receive that email today.
This is especially useful if i'm not at a computer most of that day and i
badly need
to know about a missed job that my email archive didn't perform today.

I've probably over explained this; but i think you guys might get the jist.


-BenN

 

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