RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
i love mozy pro as well, but they've just jacked prices way up. thanks EMC. From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions I too use and love Mozy Pro on laptops that never come back to our headquarters. I also load a ton of profiles into Syncback SE to backup all the laptops that routinly come into our office. It's agentless and automated. it's a hacked together custom job. Free, works, and does what I need. From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions I’ll second the Mozy recommendation. I use it for my personal desktop, keeping about 15 GB backed up. Not too bad for $50/year. Roger Wright Network Administrator 727.572.7076 x388 No amount of genius can overcome a preoccupation with detail. From: Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions I've used Iron Mountain backup, and Mozy. Iron Mountain is very good and user friendly. However, Mozy is cheap and intergrated into explorer. Mozy takes a little more time to do first backup but after first backup it's great. _ From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Desktop/laptop backup solutions Looking to find out what everyone else is doing to backup desktop/laptop systems in the enterprise. We have had a few systems crash and needed to send some hard drives off for recovery. We want to investigate a more proactive solution. Any input is appreciated. David Edwards ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
I think I am paying the website's quoted rate of $3.95, I signed up about 6 months ago. FYI. From: Rick Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions i love mozy pro as well, but they've just jacked prices way up. thanks EMC. From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions I too use and love Mozy Pro on laptops that never come back to our headquarters. I also load a ton of profiles into Syncback SE to backup all the laptops that routinly come into our office. It's agentless and automated. it's a hacked together custom job. Free, works, and does what I need. From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions I'll second the Mozy recommendation. I use it for my personal desktop, keeping about 15 GB backed up. Not too bad for $50/year. Roger Wright Network Administrator 727.572.7076 x388 No amount of genius can overcome a preoccupation with detail. From: Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions I've used Iron Mountain backup, and Mozy. Iron Mountain is very good and user friendly. However, Mozy is cheap and intergrated into explorer. Mozy takes a little more time to do first backup but after first backup it's great. _ From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Desktop/laptop backup solutions Looking to find out what everyone else is doing to backup desktop/laptop systems in the enterprise. We have had a few systems crash and needed to send some hard drives off for recovery. We want to investigate a more proactive solution. Any input is appreciated. David Edwards ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
I don't backup desktops or laptops. Our users have been told many times (and it's been reinforced by crashes) to not keep any data locale to their machines. In the world of road warriors where they are connecting remotely for various reasons, there's little reason to not keep the most recent copy of their work on a user/group/etc share; one that is backed up regularly. _ From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Desktop/laptop backup solutions Looking to find out what everyone else is doing to backup desktop/laptop systems in the enterprise. We have had a few systems crash and needed to send some hard drives off for recovery. We want to investigate a more proactive solution. Any input is appreciated. David Edwards ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
All systems are imaged (Acronis) and all data is redirected to a server. Machine craps, put another one in it's place, reimage, add shortcuts, back to work. Painstakingly sent to you from my Blackberry. - Original Message - From: Edwards, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Mon Mar 10 12:46:45 2008 Subject: Desktop/laptop backup solutions Looking to find out what everyone else is doing to backup desktop/laptop systems in the enterprise. We have had a few systems crash and needed to send some hard drives off for recovery. We want to investigate a more proactive solution. Any input is appreciated. David Edwards ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
There are a number of solutions out there that did so pretty quickly (and remotely). One particular that I saw was at an EMC meeting a few weeks ago. It uses data deduplication so every backup after the first one takes a few minutes; pretty independent of the bandwidth technology used. _ From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions I don't backup desktops or laptops. Our users have been told many times (and it's been reinforced by crashes) to not keep any data locale to their machines. In the world of road warriors where they are connecting remotely for various reasons, there's little reason to not keep the most recent copy of their work on a user/group/etc share; one that is backed up regularly. _ From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Desktop/laptop backup solutions Looking to find out what everyone else is doing to backup desktop/laptop systems in the enterprise. We have had a few systems crash and needed to send some hard drives off for recovery. We want to investigate a more proactive solution. Any input is appreciated. David Edwards ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
I've used Iron Mountain backup, and Mozy. Iron Mountain is very good and user friendly. However, Mozy is cheap and intergrated into explorer. Mozy takes a little more time to do first backup but after first backup it's great. From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Desktop/laptop backup solutions Looking to find out what everyone else is doing to backup desktop/laptop systems in the enterprise. We have had a few systems crash and needed to send some hard drives off for recovery. We want to investigate a more proactive solution. Any input is appreciated. David Edwards ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
Thanks for the feedback. Our current policy is to image the systems when they show symptoms of eminent crashing or general flaky behavior but the users do not always pay attention to the symptoms or they do and wait to long to let us know about it. In the past we have not backed up desktop/laptops as a rule but are interested in what others are doing. Regards, Dave From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions There are a number of solutions out there that did so pretty quickly (and remotely). One particular that I saw was at an EMC meeting a few weeks ago. It uses data deduplication so every backup after the first one takes a few minutes; pretty independent of the bandwidth technology used. From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions I don't backup desktops or laptops. Our users have been told many times (and it's been reinforced by crashes) to not keep any data locale to their machines. In the world of road warriors where they are connecting remotely for various reasons, there's little reason to not keep the most recent copy of their work on a user/group/etc share; one that is backed up regularly. From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Desktop/laptop backup solutions Looking to find out what everyone else is doing to backup desktop/laptop systems in the enterprise. We have had a few systems crash and needed to send some hard drives off for recovery. We want to investigate a more proactive solution. Any input is appreciated. David Edwards ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
Edwards, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/10/2008 12:46:45 PM: Looking to find out what everyone else is doing to backup desktop/laptop systems in the enterprise. One of our groups uses Arkeia and they are happy with it: http://www.arkeia.com Eric Eskam =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any position of the U.S. Government The human mind treats a new idea the same way the body treats a strange protein; it rejects it. - P. B. Medawar ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
Depending on your users, one touch 80gb drives are pretty inexpensive and small and can fit in the users laptop carry giving a local copy readily available. If the users frequent offices, I like the offline files options, whereas the files are always on the server and then set to synch offline or when the user comes into the office. 3rd party backup solutions work if you don't mind your data sitting out there. For desktops nowadays there really is very little reason for the user to have to save anything that's not on the server. My Documents, redirects, no pst etc etc. Favorites and the NK file for Outlook seems to be the most 'I can't live without' when a pc is replaced, but that should be it. I always tell people anything on the desktop is to not be saved. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
I'll second the Mozy recommendation. I use it for my personal desktop, keeping about 15 GB backed up. Not too bad for $50/year. Roger Wright Network Administrator 727.572.7076 x388 No amount of genius can overcome a preoccupation with detail. From: Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions I've used Iron Mountain backup, and Mozy. Iron Mountain is very good and user friendly. However, Mozy is cheap and intergrated into explorer. Mozy takes a little more time to do first backup but after first backup it's great. _ From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Desktop/laptop backup solutions Looking to find out what everyone else is doing to backup desktop/laptop systems in the enterprise. We have had a few systems crash and needed to send some hard drives off for recovery. We want to investigate a more proactive solution. Any input is appreciated. David Edwards ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
re: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
We just recently started using the BackupExec solution to backup users' PCs to a network share. we exclude file's like mp3s to avoid backing up everyone's itunes libraries. Bill ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
ONYX is the way to go very easy to simple and manage easy way .. Manpreet From: Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions I've used Iron Mountain backup, and Mozy. Iron Mountain is very good and user friendly. However, Mozy is cheap and intergrated into explorer. Mozy takes a little more time to do first backup but after first backup it's great. _ From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Desktop/laptop backup solutions Looking to find out what everyone else is doing to backup desktop/laptop systems in the enterprise. We have had a few systems crash and needed to send some hard drives off for recovery. We want to investigate a more proactive solution. Any input is appreciated. David Edwards ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
We use Retrospects Proactive Backup feature backs them up when they are available, not necessarily on a rigid schedule. Works very well for frequently disconnected laptops. Not sure how well it scales but it works for our 60 users. - Andy O. From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Desktop/laptop backup solutions Looking to find out what everyone else is doing to backup desktop/laptop systems in the enterprise. We have had a few systems crash and needed to send some hard drives off for recovery. We want to investigate a more proactive solution. Any input is appreciated. David Edwards ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
On 10 Mar 2008 at 12:55, Louis, Joe wrote: I don't backup desktops or laptops. Our users have been told many times (and it's been reinforced by crashes) to not keep any data locale to their machines. In the world of road warriors where they are connecting remotely for various reasons, there's little reason to not keep the most recent copy of their work on a user/group/etc share; one that is backed up regularly. Nothing automatic. I'm looking into BackupPC as a possibility. I only back up some critical files from a few desktops in an accounting department that serves two companies; for company reasons we can't store data from these desktops on either server since the accounting is separate. For laptops, depending on the use, either I have moved My Docs to the server (if the laptop never runs off the network) or enabled manual synching of My Docs between the laptop and user's home directory on the server. -- Angus Scott-Fleming http://www.geoapps.com/ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
I too use and love Mozy Pro on laptops that never come back to our headquarters. I also load a ton of profiles into Syncback SE to backup all the laptops that routinly come into our office. It's agentless and automated. it's a hacked together custom job. Free, works, and does what I need. From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions I'll second the Mozy recommendation. I use it for my personal desktop, keeping about 15 GB backed up. Not too bad for $50/year. Roger Wright Network Administrator 727.572.7076 x388 No amount of genius can overcome a preoccupation with detail. From: Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Desktop/laptop backup solutions I've used Iron Mountain backup, and Mozy. Iron Mountain is very good and user friendly. However, Mozy is cheap and intergrated into explorer. Mozy takes a little more time to do first backup but after first backup it's great. _ From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Desktop/laptop backup solutions Looking to find out what everyone else is doing to backup desktop/laptop systems in the enterprise. We have had a few systems crash and needed to send some hard drives off for recovery. We want to investigate a more proactive solution. Any input is appreciated. David Edwards ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Desktop/laptop backup solutions
On 3/10/08, Edwards, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking to find out what everyone else is doing to backup desktop/laptop systems in the enterprise. I don't backup workstations. All user data is kept in the user profile or on network folders. Roaming profiles sync to the server on user logon/logout. Group Policy Folder Redirection speeds up roaming profiles. Offline Folders makes redirection work for roaming users. If a workstation crashes, dies, etc., I swap out the whole PC with a spare, the user logs on with their regular username and password, and picks up where they left off. I use RIS (Microsoft's Remote Installation Services) to install Windows, and Group Policy to install as much application software as possible, so when I get a new computer or a new hard disk, I just hit F12 (network boot) and a little while later, I've got the PC installed to the way I like it. -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
