Re: GPO Not Applying

2011-04-01 Thread James Rankin
I had the same error on a single GPO recently, I managed to get rid of it by
backing up the existing one, creating a new one, and importing the settings
back into it from the original. After that, the output was fine.

On 1 April 2011 03:01, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:

 They're all wired.

 I think the policy might be a red herring. I finally got a list of servers
 they're having problems collecting logs from and they're not all in the
 previously mentioned OU and gpresult from the others shows no oddities. I
 advised them to engage the deployment engineer from symantec since the
 product hasn't even been fully implemented yet.

 I appreciate all of the assistance.

 - Sean



 On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Jonathan ncm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just for kicksare the affected clients wired or wireless. Also, are
 other machine policies being applied properly?

 Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE

 Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the
 Verizon network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings.

 On Mar 31, 2011 2:24 PM, Sean Martin  seanmarti...@gmail.com
 seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks for the advice.
 
  Gpotool indicates the policy is ok.
 
  Gpresult /v results seem ok, but the policy in question displays oddly in
 the results. The policy settings are under Computer Configuration/Windows
 Settings/Security Settings/Local Policies/Security Options:
 
  Eventlog: Security descriptor for Application event log
 
  With additional settings for each log were collecting. The results from
 gpresult show the following:
 
  GPO: policy name
  Policy: N/A
  ValueName: machine\system\currentcontrolset\services\eventlog\directory
 service\customsd
  Computer Setting: the settings
 
  What is odd is that the policy is only referenced once, even though it
 should configuring up to 6 settings. Also, the policyname shows N/A.
 
  I tried comparing gpresults to a server where the policy apppears to
 apply correctly, but the only one I'm aware of is a domain controller and
 the format of the results are completely different.
 
  Please bear with me if I'm not providing enough information. We're
 blocking GMail at %work% until we get patch 2524375 deployed, so I'm doing
 this from my iPhone.
 
 
 
 
  On Mar 31, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Free, Bob  r...@pge.comr...@pge.com
 wrote:
 
  First I would check the overall health of the GPO components with
 gpotool including checking the ACL-
 
  gpotool /gpo:GUID od suspect GPO /checkacl
 
  Then I would check it locally on an affected server with grpesult /v to
 see what is going on in more detail and also see if you get something better
 than (unknown reason)
 
  I usually do something like gpresult /v gp.txt  notepad gp.txt
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sean Martin [mailto: seanmarti...@gmail.com
 seanmarti...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:10 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: GPO Not Applying
 
  Windows 2003 AD
  Windows 2003/2008 member servers
 
  I've got a GPO that configures security descriptors on event logs for
 Symantec SSIM to do log collection. I have a security group containing the
 computer accounts used for security filtering on the GPO. The GPO is linked
 to 2 OUs where these computer accounts reside. There's a top level OU with
 multiple sub OUs. One of the sub OUs blocks inheritance for other reasons so
 the policy is linked directly to that OU.
 
  We're having problems collecting logs from computers that reside in the
 sub OU. Group Policy is being singled out because RSOP lists the following:
 
  Policy Name
  Filtering: Not Applied (Unknown Reason)
 
  However, the policy also appears under Applied Group Policy Objects. I
 haven't been able to identify anything that would prevent the GPO from
 applying. Other GPOs linked directly to the sub OU apply without issue. The
 only difference is the problem GPO uses more granular security filtering,
 where the others default to authenticated users.
 
  I'm going to create a separate GPO that can be applied to only the sub
 OU and not modify security filtering.
 
  I'm not entirely convinced this is specifically a GPO problem because
 there are other environmental differences that make members of this OU
 unique.
 
  Anyone have any ideas on the GPO scenario? Does it sound like there's an
 issue?
 
 
 
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RE: GPO Not Applying

2011-03-31 Thread Free, Bob
First I would check the overall health of the GPO components with gpotool 
including checking the ACL-

gpotool /gpo:GUID od suspect GPO /checkacl

Then I would check it locally on an affected server with grpesult /v to see 
what is going on in more detail and also see if you get something better than 
(unknown reason)

I usually do something like gpresult /v gp.txt  notepad gp.txt

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: GPO Not Applying

Windows 2003 AD
Windows 2003/2008 member servers

I've got a GPO that configures security descriptors on event logs for Symantec 
SSIM to do log collection. I have a security group containing the computer 
accounts used for security filtering on the GPO. The GPO is linked to 2 OUs 
where these computer accounts reside. There's a top level OU with multiple sub 
OUs. One of the sub OUs blocks inheritance for other reasons so the policy is 
linked directly to that OU.

We're having problems collecting logs from computers that reside in the sub OU. 
Group Policy is being singled out because RSOP lists the following:

Policy Name
Filtering: Not Applied (Unknown Reason)

However, the policy also appears under Applied Group Policy Objects. I 
haven't been able to identify anything that would prevent the GPO from 
applying. Other GPOs linked directly to the sub OU apply without issue. The 
only difference is the problem GPO uses more granular security filtering, where 
the others default to authenticated users.

I'm going to create a separate GPO that can be applied to only the sub OU and 
not modify security filtering.

I'm not entirely convinced this is specifically a GPO problem because there are 
other environmental differences that make members of this OU unique.

Anyone have any ideas on the GPO scenario? Does it sound like there's an issue? 



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Re: GPO Not Applying

2011-03-31 Thread Sean Martin
Thanks for the advice.

Gpotool indicates the policy is ok. 

Gpresult /v results seem ok, but the policy in question displays oddly in the 
results. The policy settings are under Computer Configuration/Windows 
Settings/Security Settings/Local Policies/Security Options: 

Eventlog: Security descriptor for Application event log

With additional settings for each log were collecting. The results from 
gpresult show the following:

GPO: policy name
Policy: N/A
ValueName: machine\system\currentcontrolset\services\eventlog\directory 
service\customsd
Computer Setting: the settings

What is odd is that the policy is only referenced once, even though it should 
configuring up to 6 settings. Also, the policyname shows N/A. 

I tried comparing gpresults to a server where the policy apppears to apply 
correctly, but the only one I'm aware of is a domain controller and the format 
of the results are completely different.

Please bear with me if I'm not providing enough information. We're blocking 
GMail at %work% until we get patch 2524375 deployed, so I'm doing this from my 
iPhone.




On Mar 31, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:

 First I would check the overall health of the GPO components with gpotool 
 including checking the ACL-
 
 gpotool /gpo:GUID od suspect GPO /checkacl
 
 Then I would check it locally on an affected server with grpesult /v to see 
 what is going on in more detail and also see if you get something better than 
 (unknown reason)
 
 I usually do something like gpresult /v gp.txt  notepad gp.txt
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:10 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: GPO Not Applying
 
 Windows 2003 AD
 Windows 2003/2008 member servers
 
 I've got a GPO that configures security descriptors on event logs for 
 Symantec SSIM to do log collection. I have a security group containing the 
 computer accounts used for security filtering on the GPO. The GPO is linked 
 to 2 OUs where these computer accounts reside. There's a top level OU with 
 multiple sub OUs. One of the sub OUs blocks inheritance for other reasons so 
 the policy is linked directly to that OU.
 
 We're having problems collecting logs from computers that reside in the sub 
 OU. Group Policy is being singled out because RSOP lists the following:
 
 Policy Name
 Filtering: Not Applied (Unknown Reason)
 
 However, the policy also appears under Applied Group Policy Objects. I 
 haven't been able to identify anything that would prevent the GPO from 
 applying. Other GPOs linked directly to the sub OU apply without issue. The 
 only difference is the problem GPO uses more granular security filtering, 
 where the others default to authenticated users.
 
 I'm going to create a separate GPO that can be applied to only the sub OU and 
 not modify security filtering.
 
 I'm not entirely convinced this is specifically a GPO problem because there 
 are other environmental differences that make members of this OU unique.
 
 Anyone have any ideas on the GPO scenario? Does it sound like there's an 
 issue? 
 
 
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
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Re: GPO Not Applying

2011-03-31 Thread Jonathan
Just for kicksare the affected clients wired or wireless. Also, are
other machine policies being applied properly?

Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the
Verizon network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings.

On Mar 31, 2011 2:24 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the advice.

 Gpotool indicates the policy is ok.

 Gpresult /v results seem ok, but the policy in question displays oddly in
the results. The policy settings are under Computer Configuration/Windows
Settings/Security Settings/Local Policies/Security Options:

 Eventlog: Security descriptor for Application event log

 With additional settings for each log were collecting. The results from
gpresult show the following:

 GPO: policy name
 Policy: N/A
 ValueName: machine\system\currentcontrolset\services\eventlog\directory
service\customsd
 Computer Setting: the settings

 What is odd is that the policy is only referenced once, even though it
should configuring up to 6 settings. Also, the policyname shows N/A.

 I tried comparing gpresults to a server where the policy apppears to apply
correctly, but the only one I'm aware of is a domain controller and the
format of the results are completely different.

 Please bear with me if I'm not providing enough information. We're
blocking GMail at %work% until we get patch 2524375 deployed, so I'm doing
this from my iPhone.




 On Mar 31, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:

 First I would check the overall health of the GPO components with gpotool
including checking the ACL-

 gpotool /gpo:GUID od suspect GPO /checkacl

 Then I would check it locally on an affected server with grpesult /v to
see what is going on in more detail and also see if you get something better
than (unknown reason)

 I usually do something like gpresult /v gp.txt  notepad gp.txt

 -Original Message-
 From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:10 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: GPO Not Applying

 Windows 2003 AD
 Windows 2003/2008 member servers

 I've got a GPO that configures security descriptors on event logs for
Symantec SSIM to do log collection. I have a security group containing the
computer accounts used for security filtering on the GPO. The GPO is linked
to 2 OUs where these computer accounts reside. There's a top level OU with
multiple sub OUs. One of the sub OUs blocks inheritance for other reasons so
the policy is linked directly to that OU.

 We're having problems collecting logs from computers that reside in the
sub OU. Group Policy is being singled out because RSOP lists the following:

 Policy Name
 Filtering: Not Applied (Unknown Reason)

 However, the policy also appears under Applied Group Policy Objects. I
haven't been able to identify anything that would prevent the GPO from
applying. Other GPOs linked directly to the sub OU apply without issue. The
only difference is the problem GPO uses more granular security filtering,
where the others default to authenticated users.

 I'm going to create a separate GPO that can be applied to only the sub OU
and not modify security filtering.

 I'm not entirely convinced this is specifically a GPO problem because
there are other environmental differences that make members of this OU
unique.

 Anyone have any ideas on the GPO scenario? Does it sound like there's an
issue?



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Re: GPO Not Applying

2011-03-31 Thread Sean Martin
They're all wired. 

I think the policy might be a red herring. I finally got a list of servers 
they're having problems collecting logs from and they're not all in the 
previously mentioned OU and gpresult from the others shows no oddities. I 
advised them to engage the deployment engineer from symantec since the product 
hasn't even been fully implemented yet.

I appreciate all of the assistance.

- Sean



On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Jonathan ncm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just for kicksare the affected clients wired or wireless. Also, are other 
 machine policies being applied properly?
 
 Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE
 
 Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the 
 Verizon network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings.
 
 On Mar 31, 2011 2:24 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks for the advice.
  
  Gpotool indicates the policy is ok. 
  
  Gpresult /v results seem ok, but the policy in question displays oddly in 
  the results. The policy settings are under Computer Configuration/Windows 
  Settings/Security Settings/Local Policies/Security Options: 
  
  Eventlog: Security descriptor for Application event log
  
  With additional settings for each log were collecting. The results from 
  gpresult show the following:
  
  GPO: policy name
  Policy: N/A
  ValueName: machine\system\currentcontrolset\services\eventlog\directory 
  service\customsd
  Computer Setting: the settings
  
  What is odd is that the policy is only referenced once, even though it 
  should configuring up to 6 settings. Also, the policyname shows N/A. 
  
  I tried comparing gpresults to a server where the policy apppears to apply 
  correctly, but the only one I'm aware of is a domain controller and the 
  format of the results are completely different.
  
  Please bear with me if I'm not providing enough information. We're blocking 
  GMail at %work% until we get patch 2524375 deployed, so I'm doing this from 
  my iPhone.
  
  
  
  
  On Mar 31, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:
  
  First I would check the overall health of the GPO components with gpotool 
  including checking the ACL-
  
  gpotool /gpo:GUID od suspect GPO /checkacl
  
  Then I would check it locally on an affected server with grpesult /v to 
  see what is going on in more detail and also see if you get something 
  better than (unknown reason)
  
  I usually do something like gpresult /v gp.txt  notepad gp.txt
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:10 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: GPO Not Applying
  
  Windows 2003 AD
  Windows 2003/2008 member servers
  
  I've got a GPO that configures security descriptors on event logs for 
  Symantec SSIM to do log collection. I have a security group containing the 
  computer accounts used for security filtering on the GPO. The GPO is 
  linked to 2 OUs where these computer accounts reside. There's a top level 
  OU with multiple sub OUs. One of the sub OUs blocks inheritance for other 
  reasons so the policy is linked directly to that OU.
  
  We're having problems collecting logs from computers that reside in the 
  sub OU. Group Policy is being singled out because RSOP lists the following:
  
  Policy Name
  Filtering: Not Applied (Unknown Reason)
  
  However, the policy also appears under Applied Group Policy Objects. I 
  haven't been able to identify anything that would prevent the GPO from 
  applying. Other GPOs linked directly to the sub OU apply without issue. 
  The only difference is the problem GPO uses more granular security 
  filtering, where the others default to authenticated users.
  
  I'm going to create a separate GPO that can be applied to only the sub OU 
  and not modify security filtering.
  
  I'm not entirely convinced this is specifically a GPO problem because 
  there are other environmental differences that make members of this OU 
  unique.
  
  Anyone have any ideas on the GPO scenario? Does it sound like there's an 
  issue? 
  
  
  
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  http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
  
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