RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but access denied error?

2001-09-11 Thread Mark Brackett

Can you delete the files from the Recovery Console?
Else boot to a DOS disk if you're using FAT32 or sysinternal's R/W NTFS
driver.
One of the things I like to do (when I have the time) is install a fresh
copy of NT/2000 on a small partition, just in case I don't have R/W NTFS
support somewhere else. It's saved my butt many times

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From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but access denied error?



 Yes you can remove everything in that dir., take the event log service
 offline remove the files then restart it.

Nope, can't remove files in the event dir, as says file in use. can't stop
event service as it doesn't have a stop button. Can't change settings on
event viewer as when you click on disable, the hourglass just sits there,
forever and doesn't do anything.

Tried all of the above in safe mode..same result.



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RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but access denied error?

2001-09-11 Thread Miller Bonnie L.

If a reboot doesn't fix you, you could try the MS procedure for removing
corrupt event log viewer files.  I know you're not getting this error, but
it might work.  I've used this before myself

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q172/1/56.asp

Also, make sure to first check your local policy (Default domain
controllers/Default domain policy in AD) and make sure that
administrators, domain admins, or whatever other god group you like, has
the user right defined for manage auditing and security log.  It's under
computer configuration, windows settings, security settings, local policies,
user rights assignments.

-Bonnie

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From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 6:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but
access denied error?

Nope, by making tthe administrator a member of every group type, I still
have no access to security logs in event viewer...says access denied

tony
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From: Better Net Office [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but
access denied error?


 OK Thx Damian...so i just put say user fred as a member of schema
 admin and I'm god?? right??



 Tony

 Quite power hungry! ;-)
 God in 2k is different, depending on what you define as God.

 There is a Schema admin, which holds rights to modify Schema, personally
 I find this one the most frightening.
 There is also Enterprise Admin, which you should think of as a Domain
 Admin of all domains, root and child.
 Then there is Domain admin for the current domain you are connected to.

 Hope that helps, just be security concious.

 Cheers
 Damian


 -Original Message-
 From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 10:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but
 access denied error?


 Ok I'll change the topic, I'd like to know exactly where I give myself
 GOD rights. In otherwords, if i make an account called fred (me
 actually) or administrator (me too) I want that account to have 100%
 ability to do anything..how? I haven't got time to muck
 around with individual rights...just want meto be god.
 Rgds
 Tony Wilson
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Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but access denied error?

2001-09-10 Thread Better Net Office

OK Thx Damian...so i just put say user fred as a member of schema
admin and I'm god?? right??



Tony

Quite power hungry! ;-)
God in 2k is different, depending on what you define as God.

There is a Schema admin, which holds rights to modify Schema, personally
I find this one the most frightening.
There is also Enterprise Admin, which you should think of as a Domain
Admin of all domains, root and child.
Then there is Domain admin for the current domain you are connected to.

Hope that helps, just be security concious.

Cheers
Damian


-Original Message-
From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 10:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but
access denied error?


Ok I'll change the topic, I'd like to know exactly where I give myself
GOD rights. In otherwords, if i make an account called fred (me
actually) or administrator (me too) I want that account to have 100%
ability to do anything..how? I haven't got time to muck
around with individual rights...just want meto be god.
Rgds
Tony Wilson
Better Net
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Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but access denied error?

2001-09-10 Thread Better Net Office

Nope, by making tthe administrator a member of every group type, I still
have no access to security logs in event viewer...says access denied

tony
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From: Better Net Office [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but
access denied error?


 OK Thx Damian...so i just put say user fred as a member of schema
 admin and I'm god?? right??



 Tony

 Quite power hungry! ;-)
 God in 2k is different, depending on what you define as God.

 There is a Schema admin, which holds rights to modify Schema, personally
 I find this one the most frightening.
 There is also Enterprise Admin, which you should think of as a Domain
 Admin of all domains, root and child.
 Then there is Domain admin for the current domain you are connected to.

 Hope that helps, just be security concious.

 Cheers
 Damian


 -Original Message-
 From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 10:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but
 access denied error?


 Ok I'll change the topic, I'd like to know exactly where I give myself
 GOD rights. In otherwords, if i make an account called fred (me
 actually) or administrator (me too) I want that account to have 100%
 ability to do anything..how? I haven't got time to muck
 around with individual rights...just want meto be god.
 Rgds
 Tony Wilson
 Better Net
 ph02-66727565
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RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but access denied error?

2001-09-10 Thread Kevin Miller

Then someone messed with the files rights in the \%sysroot% dir. All the
log files are stored in sub dir of that dir. Go check the file rights.

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From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but access denied error?


Nope, by making tthe administrator a member of every group type, I still
have no access to security logs in event viewer...says access denied

tony
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From: Better Net Office [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but access denied error?


 OK Thx Damian...so i just put say user fred as a member of 
 schema admin and I'm god?? right??



 Tony

 Quite power hungry! ;-)
 God in 2k is different, depending on what you define as God.

 There is a Schema admin, which holds rights to modify Schema, 
 personally I find this one the most frightening. There is also 
 Enterprise Admin, which you should think of as a Domain Admin of all 
 domains, root and child. Then there is Domain admin for the current 
 domain you are connected to.

 Hope that helps, just be security concious.

 Cheers
 Damian


 -Original Message-
 From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 10:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but 
 access denied error?


 Ok I'll change the topic, I'd like to know exactly where I give myself

 GOD rights. In otherwords, if i make an account called fred (me
 actually) or administrator (me too) I want that account to have 100% 
 ability to do anything..how? I haven't got time to 
 muck around with individual rights...just want meto be 
 god. Rgds Tony Wilson
 Better Net
 ph02-66727565
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Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but access denied error?

2001-09-10 Thread Better Net Office

I've found all evt files...in winnt\system32\config The
permissions are set full access to administrators yet still says access
denied.
Rgds
Tony Wilson
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From: Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but
access denied error?


 Then someone messed with the files rights in the \%sysroot% dir. All the
 log files are stored in sub dir of that dir. Go check the file rights.

 -Original Message-
 From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:18 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
 but access denied error?


 Nope, by making tthe administrator a member of every group type, I still
 have no access to security logs in event viewer...says access denied

 tony
 - Original Message -
 From: Better Net Office [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:46 AM
 Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
 but access denied error?


  OK Thx Damian...so i just put say user fred as a member of
  schema admin and I'm god?? right??
 
 
 
  Tony
 
  Quite power hungry! ;-)
  God in 2k is different, depending on what you define as God.
 
  There is a Schema admin, which holds rights to modify Schema,
  personally I find this one the most frightening. There is also
  Enterprise Admin, which you should think of as a Domain Admin of all
  domains, root and child. Then there is Domain admin for the current
  domain you are connected to.
 
  Hope that helps, just be security concious.
 
  Cheers
  Damian
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 10:22 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but
  access denied error?
 
 
  Ok I'll change the topic, I'd like to know exactly where I give myself

  GOD rights. In otherwords, if i make an account called fred (me
  actually) or administrator (me too) I want that account to have 100%
  ability to do anything..how? I haven't got time to
  muck around with individual rights...just want meto be
  god. Rgds Tony Wilson
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RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but access denied error?

2001-09-10 Thread MURDOCH Damian

try removing and re-adding the permissions.
If that does not work, try adding everyone full control and see if you
can access it, if you can access it then, tighten the permissions a
little and try again, if you cant then try different accounts, then you
will find what is causing the problem if its a permissions problem.

Process of deduction watson.



-Original Message-
From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but access denied error?


I've found all evt files...in winnt\system32\config The
permissions are set full access to administrators yet still says access
denied.
Rgds
Tony Wilson
Better Net
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- Original Message -
From: Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but
access denied error?


 Then someone messed with the files rights in the \%sysroot% dir. All
the
 log files are stored in sub dir of that dir. Go check the file rights.

 -Original Message-
 From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:18 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
 but access denied error?


 Nope, by making tthe administrator a member of every group type, I
still
 have no access to security logs in event viewer...says access denied

 tony
 - Original Message -
 From: Better Net Office [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:46 AM
 Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
 but access denied error?


  OK Thx Damian...so i just put say user fred as a member of
  schema admin and I'm god?? right??
 
 
 
  Tony
 
  Quite power hungry! ;-)
  God in 2k is different, depending on what you define as God.
 
  There is a Schema admin, which holds rights to modify Schema,
  personally I find this one the most frightening. There is also
  Enterprise Admin, which you should think of as a Domain Admin of
all
  domains, root and child. Then there is Domain admin for the current
  domain you are connected to.
 
  Hope that helps, just be security concious.
 
  Cheers
  Damian
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 10:22 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but
  access denied error?
 
 
  Ok I'll change the topic, I'd like to know exactly where I give
myself

  GOD rights. In otherwords, if i make an account called fred (me
  actually) or administrator (me too) I want that account to have 100%
  ability to do anything..how? I haven't got time to
  muck around with individual rights...just want meto be
  god. Rgds Tony Wilson
  Better Net
  ph02-66727565
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Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but access denied error?

2001-09-10 Thread Better Net Office




 Is the evntlog service started If so restart it and try again. On
 the individual files that is the correct rights. Well it should be
 \admin and system.

Can I delete all files then re-boot and hope it works then? cause I tried
all suggestions and can view all events in viewer except application and
system. Security log is available and visible but just not the application
and system



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RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but access denied error?

2001-09-10 Thread Kevin Miller

Yes you can remove everything in that dir., take the event log service
offline remove the files then restart it.

-Original Message-
From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but access denied error?





 Is the evntlog service started If so restart it and try again. On 
 the individual files that is the correct rights. Well it should be 
 \admin and system.

Can I delete all files then re-boot and hope it works then? cause I
tried all suggestions and can view all events in viewer except
application and system. Security log is available and visible but just
not the application and system



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RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but access denied error?

2001-09-10 Thread Mark Brackett

Have you tried increasing the size of the event logs and/or setting to
overwrite?

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but access denied error?


Yes you can remove everything in that dir., take the event log service
offline remove the files then restart it.

-Original Message-
From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but access denied error?





 Is the evntlog service started If so restart it and try again. On
 the individual files that is the correct rights. Well it should be
 \admin and system.

Can I delete all files then re-boot and hope it works then? cause I
tried all suggestions and can view all events in viewer except
application and system. Security log is available and visible but just
not the application and system



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Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but access denied error?

2001-09-10 Thread Better Net Office


 Yes you can remove everything in that dir., take the event log service
 offline remove the files then restart it.

Nope, can't remove files in the event dir, as says file in use. can't stop
event service as it doesn't have a stop button. Can't change settings on
event viewer as when you click on disable, the hourglass just sits there,
forever and doesn't do anything.

Tried all of the above in safe mode..same result.



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RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but access denied error?

2001-09-10 Thread Kevin Miller

Time to go look at microsoft.com/support or make the call to Pss

-Original Message-
From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but access denied error?



 Yes you can remove everything in that dir., take the event log service

 offline remove the files then restart it.

Nope, can't remove files in the event dir, as says file in use. can't
stop event service as it doesn't have a stop button. Can't change
settings on event viewer as when you click on disable, the hourglass
just sits there, forever and doesn't do anything.

Tried all of the above in safe mode..same result.



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RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but access denied error?

2001-09-10 Thread MURDOCH Damian

If you are getting an hourglass forever, I think your box may have more
problems than the eventlog.
I second Kevins motion.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 12:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but access denied error?


Time to go look at microsoft.com/support or make the call to Pss

-Original Message-
From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but access denied error?



 Yes you can remove everything in that dir., take the event log service

 offline remove the files then restart it.

Nope, can't remove files in the event dir, as says file in use. can't
stop event service as it doesn't have a stop button. Can't change
settings on event viewer as when you click on disable, the hourglass
just sits there, forever and doesn't do anything.

Tried all of the above in safe mode..same result.



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RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full but access denied error?

2001-09-10 Thread Kevin Miller

The motion has been passed, what is the next order of business? None?
Then I say we adjourn for some fish tacos and beer. Lots of both.

-Original Message-
From: MURDOCH Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but access denied error?


If you are getting an hourglass forever, I think your box may have more
problems than the eventlog. I second Kevins motion.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 12:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but access denied error?


Time to go look at microsoft.com/support or make the call to Pss

-Original Message-
From: Better Net Office [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: God rights for account administrator was Event log full
but access denied error?



 Yes you can remove everything in that dir., take the event log service

 offline remove the files then restart it.

Nope, can't remove files in the event dir, as says file in use. can't
stop event service as it doesn't have a stop button. Can't change
settings on event viewer as when you click on disable, the hourglass
just sits there, forever and doesn't do anything.

Tried all of the above in safe mode..same result.



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