Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

2010-09-17 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming 
On 17 Sep 2010 at 16:45, Gary Slinger  wrote:

> Google "Windows VDA".  MS's position on running a virtualized Windows
> instance is you either need SA, or a VDA subscription. 

My point is that MS's position might not be legally sustainable.


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Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

2010-09-17 Thread Gary Slinger 
Google "Windows VDA".  MS's position on running a virtualized Windows instance 
is you either need SA, or a VDA subscription. 

-Original Message-
From: Miller Bonnie L. 
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:41:04 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: How to restore XP Image in 
XP Mode

I'll have to dig around and see if I can find what I had read--I think it might 
be in the EULA for XP mode or something.  But if you own an XP copy with a 
license that is valid, I agree that you should be able to run it where you want.

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

On 17 Sep 2010 at 7:50, Miller Bonnie L.  wrote:

> I bought a new W7 Pro laptop at home a while back, getting pro mainly
> for the XP mode. I used disk2vhd to create a vhd file from my old XP laptop
> (that I´ve wiped), copied it over, and thought I could replace the default
> .vhd in XP mode. But, after it just wouldn´t work, some googling seemed to
> indicate that there is something special about the basic XP-mode freshly
> installed .vhd provided via the download, and that you HAVE to start clean
> from that, for anything you want to run or deploy-hence the
> licensing/activation issues. I also read something that you are only legal
> to run the clean-installed vhd as the "free" copy of XP, anything else and
> you have to license. 

I wonder what the license issues are WRT to running that VHD in a different VM 
environment like VirtualBox.  You own the original license for XP, but if it 
was an OEM license I suppose the license doesn't transfer with the VHD.

IMHO this is probably a case where MS wouldn't care to open the can of worms of 
licensing -- their special virtual XP vs your old XP license, you *have* a 
license to run XP under W7.  I'll bet a jury would decide to throw MS out of 
court on that one ;-)

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RE: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

2010-09-17 Thread Miller Bonnie L . 
I'll have to dig around and see if I can find what I had read--I think it might 
be in the EULA for XP mode or something.  But if you own an XP copy with a 
license that is valid, I agree that you should be able to run it where you want.

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

On 17 Sep 2010 at 7:50, Miller Bonnie L.  wrote:

> I bought a new W7 Pro laptop at home a while back, getting pro mainly
> for the XP mode. I used disk2vhd to create a vhd file from my old XP laptop
> (that I´ve wiped), copied it over, and thought I could replace the default
> .vhd in XP mode. But, after it just wouldn´t work, some googling seemed to
> indicate that there is something special about the basic XP-mode freshly
> installed .vhd provided via the download, and that you HAVE to start clean
> from that, for anything you want to run or deploy-hence the
> licensing/activation issues. I also read something that you are only legal
> to run the clean-installed vhd as the "free" copy of XP, anything else and
> you have to license. 

I wonder what the license issues are WRT to running that VHD in a different VM 
environment like VirtualBox.  You own the original license for XP, but if it 
was an OEM license I suppose the license doesn't transfer with the VHD.

IMHO this is probably a case where MS wouldn't care to open the can of worms of 
licensing -- their special virtual XP vs your old XP license, you *have* a 
license to run XP under W7.  I'll bet a jury would decide to throw MS out of 
court on that one ;-)

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





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Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

2010-09-17 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming 
On 17 Sep 2010 at 7:50, Miller Bonnie L.  wrote:

> I bought a new W7 Pro laptop at home a while back, getting pro mainly
> for the XP mode. I used disk2vhd to create a vhd file from my old XP laptop
> (that I´ve wiped), copied it over, and thought I could replace the default
> .vhd in XP mode. But, after it just wouldn´t work, some googling seemed to
> indicate that there is something special about the basic XP-mode freshly
> installed .vhd provided via the download, and that you HAVE to start clean
> from that, for anything you want to run or deploy-hence the
> licensing/activation issues. I also read something that you are only legal
> to run the clean-installed vhd as the "free" copy of XP, anything else and
> you have to license. 

I wonder what the license issues are WRT to running that VHD in a different VM 
environment like VirtualBox.  You own the original license for XP, but if it 
was an OEM license I suppose the license doesn't transfer with the VHD.

IMHO this is probably a case where MS wouldn't care to open the can of worms of 
licensing -- their special virtual XP vs your old XP license, you *have* a 
license to run XP under W7.  I'll bet a jury would decide to throw MS out of 
court on that one ;-)

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





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RE: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

2010-09-17 Thread Miller Bonnie L . 
I bought a new W7 Pro laptop at home a while back, getting pro mainly for the 
XP mode.  I used disk2vhd to create a vhd file from my old XP laptop (that I've 
wiped), copied it over, and thought I could replace the default .vhd in XP 
mode.  But, after it just wouldn't work, some googling seemed to indicate that 
there is something special about the basic XP-mode freshly installed .vhd 
provided via the download, and that you HAVE to start clean from that, for 
anything you want to run or deploy-hence the licensing/activation issues.  I 
also read something that you are only legal to run the clean-installed vhd as 
the "free" copy of XP, anything else and you have to license.

So, in my case, I found that most of the apps I wanted to run didn't come thru 
well anyway (games, video driver in XP mode is not that great), so even though 
I reinstalled some stuff, I don't really use it that much.  I did end up 
mounting the .vhd file of my old computer in my W7 OS to access as a nice way 
to get to my old files though-that is a very cool new feature of W7 and R2.

If you do come up with a legal way to do it though, please share!

-Bonnie

From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

The magic I am looking for is not being asked for activation of Windows!

GuidoElia
HELPPC



Da: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Inviato: giovedì 16 settembre 2010 20.20
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode
It's just a vhd. You back up the vhd and you restore the vhd. Nothing magic 
there...

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode



And get license working without asking for activation ?
Or Xp Mode in Win7 is intended only for fresh install ?

TIA

GuidoElia
HELPPC

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RE: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

2010-09-16 Thread Michael B. Smith 
It's just a vhd. You back up the vhd and you restore the vhd. Nothing magic 
there...

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode



And get license working without asking for activation ?
Or Xp Mode in Win7 is intended only for fresh install ?

TIA

GuidoElia
HELPPC

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