RE: Issue joining 2003 domain

2008-12-11 Thread Troy Meyer
Hey Eric,

Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there anything filtering 
traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think occasionally we also had to 
use the complete dns name when trying to add. (ie domain.com not just domain).

Weird though, never seen that before.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain

Good morning,

I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3 domain.  I  
am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I am  
passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.

I am getting the following error:
Network Identification
The following error occurred attempting to join the domain new_domain:

No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.

I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the  
new_domain from Network Places.

Any one ever run into this?

Thanks,

Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Issue joining 2003 domain

2008-12-11 Thread Eric Brouwer
Yes, it is joined to an old NT domain I am trying desperately to  
decommission.  Nothing besides the switches are between the PC and the  
DC.  The funny thing is, XP machines join fine.


When I try joining new_domain.local as opposed to new_domain, I get a  
different error:


Network Identification
The following error occurred attempting to join the domain  
new_domain.local:


The network path was not found.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Troy Meyer wrote:


Hey Eric,

Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there anything  
filtering traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think  
occasionally we also had to use the complete dns name when trying to  
add. (ie domain.com not just domain).


Weird though, never seen that before.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain

Good morning,

I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3 domain.  I
am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I am
passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.

I am getting the following error:
Network Identification
The following error occurred attempting to join the domain  
new_domain:


No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.

I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the
new_domain from Network Places.

Any one ever run into this?

Thanks,

Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Issue joining 2003 domain

2008-12-11 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
Do you happen to have a matching admin account name in the old domain?  Or, do 
you have a mapped/connected resource in the new domain already from that 
server?  Anything in the old domain (computer account, etc) with a matching 
netbios name to your new domain or server name?
-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain

Yes, it is joined to an old NT domain I am trying desperately to  
decommission.  Nothing besides the switches are between the PC and the  
DC.  The funny thing is, XP machines join fine.

When I try joining new_domain.local as opposed to new_domain, I get a  
different error:

Network Identification
The following error occurred attempting to join the domain  
new_domain.local:

The network path was not found.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Troy Meyer wrote:

 Hey Eric,

 Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there anything  
 filtering traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think  
 occasionally we also had to use the complete dns name when trying to  
 add. (ie domain.com not just domain).

 Weird though, never seen that before.

 -Troy

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain

 Good morning,

 I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3 domain.  I
 am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I am
 passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.

 I am getting the following error:
 Network Identification
 The following error occurred attempting to join the domain  
 new_domain:

 No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.

 I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the
 new_domain from Network Places.

 Any one ever run into this?

 Thanks,

 Eric Brouwer
 IT Manager
 www.forestpost.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 248.855.4333





 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Issue joining 2003 domain

2008-12-11 Thread Troy Meyer
Try removing it from your current domain and placing it in a workgroup before 
rejoining.

Make sure that from the W2K machine when you ping new_domain.local you get back 
an active domain controller.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain

Yes, it is joined to an old NT domain I am trying desperately to  
decommission.  Nothing besides the switches are between the PC and the  
DC.  The funny thing is, XP machines join fine.

When I try joining new_domain.local as opposed to new_domain, I get a  
different error:

Network Identification
The following error occurred attempting to join the domain  
new_domain.local:

The network path was not found.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Troy Meyer wrote:

 Hey Eric,

 Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there anything  
 filtering traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think  
 occasionally we also had to use the complete dns name when trying to  
 add. (ie domain.com not just domain).

 Weird though, never seen that before.

 -Troy

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain

 Good morning,

 I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3 domain.  I
 am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I am
 passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.

 I am getting the following error:
 Network Identification
 The following error occurred attempting to join the domain  
 new_domain:

 No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.

 I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the
 new_domain from Network Places.

 Any one ever run into this?

 Thanks,

 Eric Brouwer
 IT Manager
 www.forestpost.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 248.855.4333





 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Issue joining 2003 domain (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-12-11 Thread Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE


Did you put it back in a workgroup first, reboot, then try to join the
W2K3 domain? 

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 2008-12-11 12:13
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain

Yes, it is joined to an old NT domain I am trying desperately to  
decommission.  Nothing besides the switches are between the PC and the  
DC.  The funny thing is, XP machines join fine.

When I try joining new_domain.local as opposed to new_domain, I get a  
different error:

Network Identification
The following error occurred attempting to join the domain  
new_domain.local:

The network path was not found.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Troy Meyer wrote:

 Hey Eric,

 Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there anything  
 filtering traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think  
 occasionally we also had to use the complete dns name when trying to  
 add. (ie domain.com not just domain).

 Weird though, never seen that before.

 -Troy

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain

 Good morning,

 I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3 domain.  I
 am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I am
 passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.

 I am getting the following error:
 Network Identification
 The following error occurred attempting to join the domain  
 new_domain:

 No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.

 I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the
 new_domain from Network Places.

 Any one ever run into this?

 Thanks,

 Eric Brouwer
 IT Manager
 www.forestpost.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 248.855.4333





 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Issue joining 2003 domain (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-12-11 Thread Eric Brouwer

Yes.  This had the same outcome.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM wrote:


Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


Did you put it back in a workgroup first, reboot, then try to join the
W2K3 domain?

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
Sent: 2008-12-11 12:13
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain

Yes, it is joined to an old NT domain I am trying desperately to
decommission.  Nothing besides the switches are between the PC and the
DC.  The funny thing is, XP machines join fine.

When I try joining new_domain.local as opposed to new_domain, I get a
different error:

Network Identification
The following error occurred attempting to join the domain
new_domain.local:

The network path was not found.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Troy Meyer wrote:


Hey Eric,

Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there anything
filtering traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think
occasionally we also had to use the complete dns name when trying to
add. (ie domain.com not just domain).

Weird though, never seen that before.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain

Good morning,

I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3  
domain.  I

am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I am
passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.

I am getting the following error:
Network Identification
The following error occurred attempting to join the domain
new_domain:

No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.

I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the
new_domain from Network Places.

Any one ever run into this?

Thanks,

Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Issue joining 2003 domain

2008-12-11 Thread Eric Brouwer
I'm still trying to find ADDIAG, but I was able to run DCDIAG on the  
DC.  It is returning a few errors which I am now researching:


Starting test: systemlog
An Error Event occurred.  EventID: 0x0457
Event String could not be retrieved
DC failed test systemlog

This error repeats three times.  All other tests pass.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:50 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:

Somewhere in Win2003 (perhaps still on the CD?) are Support  
Tools.  Try

running ADDIAG and DCDIAG (command line utilities).

Look in the system logs for both the client and the AD controller  
and see

if those have any links to solutions.

That's about as much as I remember back from when I was getting these
friendly greetings.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


Troy Meyer troy.me...@monacocoach.com wrote on 12/11/2008 10:34:47  
AM:



Hey Eric,

Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there anything
filtering traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think
occasionally we also had to use the complete dns name when trying to
add. (ie domain.com not just domain).

Weird though, never seen that before.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain

Good morning,

I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3  
domain.  I

am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I am
passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.

I am getting the following error:
Network Identification
The following error occurred attempting to join the domain  
new_domain:


No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.

I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the
new_domain from Network Places.

Any one ever run into this?

Thanks,

Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Issue joining 2003 domain

2008-12-11 Thread Eric Brouwer
Deleting the (unrelated) errors from my system resolved the DCDIAG  
errors.  I installed the Support Tools, and ran ADDIAG on the DC.   
This did not turn up anything either.


On Dec 11, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Eric Brouwer wrote:

I'm still trying to find ADDIAG, but I was able to run DCDIAG on the  
DC.  It is returning a few errors which I am now researching:


Starting test: systemlog
An Error Event occurred.  EventID: 0x0457
Event String could not be retrieved
DC failed test systemlog

This error repeats three times.  All other tests pass.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:50 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:

Somewhere in Win2003 (perhaps still on the CD?) are Support  
Tools.  Try

running ADDIAG and DCDIAG (command line utilities).

Look in the system logs for both the client and the AD controller  
and see

if those have any links to solutions.

That's about as much as I remember back from when I was getting these
friendly greetings.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


Troy Meyer troy.me...@monacocoach.com wrote on 12/11/2008  
10:34:47 AM:



Hey Eric,

Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there anything
filtering traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think
occasionally we also had to use the complete dns name when trying to
add. (ie domain.com not just domain).

Weird though, never seen that before.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain

Good morning,

I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3  
domain.  I

am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I am
passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.

I am getting the following error:
Network Identification
The following error occurred attempting to join the domain  
new_domain:


No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.

I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the
new_domain from Network Places.

Any one ever run into this?

Thanks,

Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Issue joining 2003 domain (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-12-11 Thread NTSysAdmin
Then your DNS / WINS is fubarred somehow in relation to that server.

S

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain (UNCLASSIFIED)

Yes.  This had the same outcome.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM wrote:

 Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE


 Did you put it back in a workgroup first, reboot, then try to join the
 W2K3 domain?

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
 Sent: 2008-12-11 12:13
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain

 Yes, it is joined to an old NT domain I am trying desperately to
 decommission.  Nothing besides the switches are between the PC and the
 DC.  The funny thing is, XP machines join fine.

 When I try joining new_domain.local as opposed to new_domain, I get a
 different error:

 Network Identification
 The following error occurred attempting to join the domain
 new_domain.local:

 The network path was not found.

 On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Troy Meyer wrote:

 Hey Eric,

 Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there anything
 filtering traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think
 occasionally we also had to use the complete dns name when trying to
 add. (ie domain.com not just domain).

 Weird though, never seen that before.

 -Troy

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain

 Good morning,

 I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3  
 domain.  I
 am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I am
 passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.

 I am getting the following error:
 Network Identification
 The following error occurred attempting to join the domain
 new_domain:

 No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.

 I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the
 new_domain from Network Places.

 Any one ever run into this?

 Thanks,

 Eric Brouwer
 IT Manager
 www.forestpost.com
 er...@forestpost.com
 248.855.4333





 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


 Eric Brouwer
 IT Manager
 www.forestpost.com
 er...@forestpost.com
 248.855.4333





 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE


 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Issue joining 2003 domain

2008-12-11 Thread NTSysAdmin
Run dcdiag /fix a few times. See if that helps.

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain

Deleting the (unrelated) errors from my system resolved the DCDIAG  
errors.  I installed the Support Tools, and ran ADDIAG on the DC.   
This did not turn up anything either.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Eric Brouwer wrote:

 I'm still trying to find ADDIAG, but I was able to run DCDIAG on the  
 DC.  It is returning a few errors which I am now researching:

 Starting test: systemlog
 An Error Event occurred.  EventID: 0x0457
 Event String could not be retrieved
 DC failed test systemlog

 This error repeats three times.  All other tests pass.

 On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:50 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:

 Somewhere in Win2003 (perhaps still on the CD?) are Support  
 Tools.  Try
 running ADDIAG and DCDIAG (command line utilities).

 Look in the system logs for both the client and the AD controller  
 and see
 if those have any links to solutions.

 That's about as much as I remember back from when I was getting these
 friendly greetings.
 --
 Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
 ASPCA Knowledge Management
 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
 217-337-9761
 http://www.aspca.org


 Troy Meyer troy.me...@monacocoach.com wrote on 12/11/2008  
 10:34:47 AM:

 Hey Eric,

 Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there anything
 filtering traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think
 occasionally we also had to use the complete dns name when trying to
 add. (ie domain.com not just domain).

 Weird though, never seen that before.

 -Troy

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain

 Good morning,

 I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3  
 domain.  I
 am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I am
 passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.

 I am getting the following error:
 Network Identification
 The following error occurred attempting to join the domain  
 new_domain:

 No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.

 I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the
 new_domain from Network Places.

 Any one ever run into this?

 Thanks,

 Eric Brouwer
 IT Manager
 www.forestpost.com
 er...@forestpost.com
 248.855.4333





 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


 Eric Brouwer
 IT Manager
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 er...@forestpost.com
 248.855.4333





 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Eric Brouwer
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www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Issue joining 2003 domain

2008-12-11 Thread Eric Brouwer

All dcdiag tests are currently passing.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 3:06 PM, NTSysAdmin wrote:


Run dcdiag /fix a few times. See if that helps.

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain

Deleting the (unrelated) errors from my system resolved the DCDIAG
errors.  I installed the Support Tools, and ran ADDIAG on the DC.
This did not turn up anything either.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Eric Brouwer wrote:


I'm still trying to find ADDIAG, but I was able to run DCDIAG on the
DC.  It is returning a few errors which I am now researching:

Starting test: systemlog
An Error Event occurred.  EventID: 0x0457
Event String could not be retrieved
DC failed test systemlog

This error repeats three times.  All other tests pass.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:50 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:


Somewhere in Win2003 (perhaps still on the CD?) are Support
Tools.  Try
running ADDIAG and DCDIAG (command line utilities).

Look in the system logs for both the client and the AD controller
and see
if those have any links to solutions.

That's about as much as I remember back from when I was getting  
these

friendly greetings.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


Troy Meyer troy.me...@monacocoach.com wrote on 12/11/2008
10:34:47 AM:


Hey Eric,

Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there  
anything

filtering traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think
occasionally we also had to use the complete dns name when trying  
to

add. (ie domain.com not just domain).

Weird though, never seen that before.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain

Good morning,

I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3
domain.  I
am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I  
am

passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.

I am getting the following error:
Network Identification
The following error occurred attempting to join the domain
new_domain:

No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.

I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the
new_domain from Network Places.

Any one ever run into this?

Thanks,

Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Issue joining 2003 domain (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-12-11 Thread Eric Brouwer
In what way could the DNS be messed up?  I can ping the DC and the  
domain by name and ip.  All respond.


On Dec 11, 2008, at 3:05 PM, NTSysAdmin wrote:


Then your DNS / WINS is fubarred somehow in relation to that server.

S

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain (UNCLASSIFIED)

Yes.  This had the same outcome.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM wrote:


Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


Did you put it back in a workgroup first, reboot, then try to join  
the

W2K3 domain?

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
Sent: 2008-12-11 12:13
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain

Yes, it is joined to an old NT domain I am trying desperately to
decommission.  Nothing besides the switches are between the PC and  
the

DC.  The funny thing is, XP machines join fine.

When I try joining new_domain.local as opposed to new_domain, I get a
different error:

Network Identification
The following error occurred attempting to join the domain
new_domain.local:

The network path was not found.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Troy Meyer wrote:


Hey Eric,

Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there anything
filtering traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think
occasionally we also had to use the complete dns name when trying to
add. (ie domain.com not just domain).

Weird though, never seen that before.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain

Good morning,

I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3
domain.  I
am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I am
passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.

I am getting the following error:
Network Identification
The following error occurred attempting to join the domain
new_domain:

No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.

I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the
new_domain from Network Places.

Any one ever run into this?

Thanks,

Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Issue joining 2003 domain (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-12-11 Thread NTSysAdmin
There are some clues... The network path was not found.

Are you using the w2k3 dns server in the w2k IP settings?

S

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain (UNCLASSIFIED)

In what way could the DNS be messed up?  I can ping the DC and the  
domain by name and ip.  All respond.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 3:05 PM, NTSysAdmin wrote:

 Then your DNS / WINS is fubarred somehow in relation to that server.

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:39 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain (UNCLASSIFIED)

 Yes.  This had the same outcome.

 On Dec 11, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM wrote:

 Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE


 Did you put it back in a workgroup first, reboot, then try to join  
 the
 W2K3 domain?

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
 Sent: 2008-12-11 12:13
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain

 Yes, it is joined to an old NT domain I am trying desperately to
 decommission.  Nothing besides the switches are between the PC and  
 the
 DC.  The funny thing is, XP machines join fine.

 When I try joining new_domain.local as opposed to new_domain, I get a
 different error:

 Network Identification
 The following error occurred attempting to join the domain
 new_domain.local:

 The network path was not found.

 On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Troy Meyer wrote:

 Hey Eric,

 Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there anything
 filtering traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think
 occasionally we also had to use the complete dns name when trying to
 add. (ie domain.com not just domain).

 Weird though, never seen that before.

 -Troy

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain

 Good morning,

 I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3
 domain.  I
 am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I am
 passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.

 I am getting the following error:
 Network Identification
 The following error occurred attempting to join the domain
 new_domain:

 No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.

 I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the
 new_domain from Network Places.

 Any one ever run into this?

 Thanks,

 Eric Brouwer
 IT Manager
 www.forestpost.com
 er...@forestpost.com
 248.855.4333





 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


 Eric Brouwer
 IT Manager
 www.forestpost.com
 er...@forestpost.com
 248.855.4333





 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE


 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


 Eric Brouwer
 IT Manager
 www.forestpost.com
 er...@forestpost.com
 248.855.4333





 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Issue joining 2003 domain (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-12-11 Thread RichardMcClary
Like I said earlier, I too went through something similar a few years ago. 
 I found the hints in the Event logs.  Look for those command-line tools 
for DCDIAG and ADDIAG.  They told me exactly what was wrong with my DNS 
server configuration.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


Steve Moffat st...@optimum.bm wrote on 12/11/2008 02:49:26 PM:

 There are some clues... The network path was not found.
 
 Are you using the w2k3 dns server in the w2k IP settings?
 
 S
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:32 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain (UNCLASSIFIED)
 
 In what way could the DNS be messed up?  I can ping the DC and the 
 domain by name and ip.  All respond.
 
 On Dec 11, 2008, at 3:05 PM, NTSysAdmin wrote:
 
  Then your DNS / WINS is fubarred somehow in relation to that server.
 
  S
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:39 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain (UNCLASSIFIED)
 
  Yes.  This had the same outcome.
 
  On Dec 11, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM wrote:
 
  Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
  Caveats: NONE
 
 
  Did you put it back in a workgroup first, reboot, then try to join 
  the
  W2K3 domain?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
  Sent: 2008-12-11 12:13
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain
 
  Yes, it is joined to an old NT domain I am trying desperately to
  decommission.  Nothing besides the switches are between the PC and 
  the
  DC.  The funny thing is, XP machines join fine.
 
  When I try joining new_domain.local as opposed to new_domain, I get a
  different error:
 
  Network Identification
  The following error occurred attempting to join the domain
  new_domain.local:
 
  The network path was not found.
 
  On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Troy Meyer wrote:
 
  Hey Eric,
 
  Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there anything
  filtering traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think
  occasionally we also had to use the complete dns name when trying to
  add. (ie domain.com not just domain).
 
  Weird though, never seen that before.
 
  -Troy
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain
 
  Good morning,
 
  I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3
  domain.  I
  am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I am
  passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.
 
  I am getting the following error:
  Network Identification
  The following error occurred attempting to join the domain
  new_domain:
 
  No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.
 
  I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the
  new_domain from Network Places.
 
  Any one ever run into this?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Eric Brouwer
  IT Manager
  www.forestpost.com
  er...@forestpost.com
  248.855.4333
 
 
 
 
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 
  Eric Brouwer
  IT Manager
  www.forestpost.com
  er...@forestpost.com
  248.855.4333
 
 
 
 
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
  Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
  Caveats: NONE
 
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 
  Eric Brouwer
  IT Manager
  www.forestpost.com
  er...@forestpost.com
  248.855.4333
 
 
 
 
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 
 Eric Brouwer
 IT Manager
 www.forestpost.com
 er...@forestpost.com
 248.855.4333
 
 
 
 
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Issue joining 2003 domain (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-12-11 Thread Free, Bob
Try netdiag /test:dsgetdc /d:domain.to.join /v

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain (UNCLASSIFIED)

Yes.  This had the same outcome.

On Dec 11, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM wrote:

 Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE


 Did you put it back in a workgroup first, reboot, then try to join the
 W2K3 domain?

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
 Sent: 2008-12-11 12:13
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Issue joining 2003 domain

 Yes, it is joined to an old NT domain I am trying desperately to
 decommission.  Nothing besides the switches are between the PC and the
 DC.  The funny thing is, XP machines join fine.

 When I try joining new_domain.local as opposed to new_domain, I get a
 different error:

 Network Identification
 The following error occurred attempting to join the domain
 new_domain.local:

 The network path was not found.

 On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Troy Meyer wrote:

 Hey Eric,

 Is the W2K box already a member of another domain? Is there anything
 filtering traffic between the DC and the old server?  I think
 occasionally we also had to use the complete dns name when trying to
 add. (ie domain.com not just domain).

 Weird though, never seen that before.

 -Troy

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:55 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Issue joining 2003 domain

 Good morning,

 I am trying to join one of our legacy W2K boxes to our W2K3  
 domain.  I
 am logged in as the local administrator, and when I try to join I am
 passing my domain admin credentials like new_domain\administrator.

 I am getting the following error:
 Network Identification
 The following error occurred attempting to join the domain
 new_domain:

 No mapping between account names and security IDs was done.

 I can ping the new_domain DC by name and IP, and I can see the
 new_domain from Network Places.

 Any one ever run into this?

 Thanks,

 Eric Brouwer
 IT Manager
 www.forestpost.com
 er...@forestpost.com
 248.855.4333





 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


 Eric Brouwer
 IT Manager
 www.forestpost.com
 er...@forestpost.com
 248.855.4333





 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE


 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~