Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
I just can't for the life of me get that to work. Every time I run it, no sign of an .msi file. Not anywhere. Never mind On 4 March 2010 19:44, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: http://java.com/en/download/help/msi_install.xml -- *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:41 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO I've been trying to extract the msi for days for Java. Care to share any pointers, and I might be able to contribute to your problem resolution? :-) On 4 March 2010 19:27, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO? I'm finding the Update 18 MSI takes seriously forever to install on my test machines. All with previous version of Java. XP Pro Sp3. Anyway to find out why? I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs before... Tia. -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
Aha! In the temp folder underneath that path. Life is now better. Cheers, On 5 March 2010 10:49, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I just can't for the life of me get that to work. Every time I run it, no sign of an .msi file. Not anywhere. Never mind On 4 March 2010 19:44, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: http://java.com/en/download/help/msi_install.xml -- *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:41 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO I've been trying to extract the msi for days for Java. Care to share any pointers, and I might be able to contribute to your problem resolution? :-) On 4 March 2010 19:27, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO? I'm finding the Update 18 MSI takes seriously forever to install on my test machines. All with previous version of Java. XP Pro Sp3. Anyway to find out why? I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs before... Tia. -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
I did this awhile back, I believe it was with update 13 or something around there, and had no issues. How large is the MSI? Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO? I'm finding the Update 18 MSI takes seriously forever to install on my test machines. All with previous version of Java. XP Pro Sp3. Anyway to find out why? I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs before... Tia. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
I've been trying to extract the msi for days for Java. Care to share any pointers, and I might be able to contribute to your problem resolution? :-) On 4 March 2010 19:27, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO? I'm finding the Update 18 MSI takes seriously forever to install on my test machines. All with previous version of Java. XP Pro Sp3. Anyway to find out why? I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs before... Tia. -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
I've been deploying Java via GPO since early in the Java 5 days. The Java Quick Start that was introduced with Java 6 Update 10 causes exactly the symptoms you see when you try to update Java 6 via GPO. To get around it I set that service to not start via GPO. Sam Cayze wrote: Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO? I'm finding the Update 18 MSI takes seriously forever to install on my test machines. All with previous version of Java. XP Pro Sp3. Anyway to find out why? I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs before... Tia. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
I was leaving this alone since it's not needed for security reasons... but thanks for testing it! Now I *know* I'll wait for the next one... Carl From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO? I'm finding the Update 18 MSI takes seriously forever to install on my test machines. All with previous version of Java. XP Pro Sp3. Anyway to find out why? I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs before... Tia. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
http://java.com/en/download/help/msi_install.xml From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO I've been trying to extract the msi for days for Java. Care to share any pointers, and I might be able to contribute to your problem resolution? :-) On 4 March 2010 19:27, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO? I'm finding the Update 18 MSI takes seriously forever to install on my test machines. All with previous version of Java. XP Pro Sp3. Anyway to find out why? I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs before... Tia. -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
I've seen that behavior with Java updates before. I would test on a feew machines, no problem, then push it to production and a few machines would fail or take forever. For those machines, I've had to manually install Java. If you pick another system it may not give you any problems. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: 14mb. The machine I am testing on now has been at the install for over an hour... -- *From:* Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:32 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO I did this awhile back, I believe it was with update 13 or something around there, and had no issues. How large is the MSI? Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:28 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO? I'm finding the Update 18 MSI takes seriously forever to install on my test machines. All with previous version of Java. XP Pro Sp3. Anyway to find out why? I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs before... Tia. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
Shoot. I knew that back from the days of pushing them out manually. I had this in my install script: for /f %%a in (@ALLUSERS.TXT) do pskill \\%%a jqs.exe Thanks Phil! Sam -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO I've been deploying Java via GPO since early in the Java 5 days. The Java Quick Start that was introduced with Java 6 Update 10 causes exactly the symptoms you see when you try to update Java 6 via GPO. To get around it I set that service to not start via GPO. Sam Cayze wrote: Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO? I'm finding the Update 18 MSI takes seriously forever to install on my test machines. All with previous version of Java. XP Pro Sp3. Anyway to find out why? I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs before... Tia. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
If you download and run the executable you will find the MSI in a subfolder of %APPDATA%\Sun\Java. The installer for Java 6 Update 18 puts the MSI under %APPDATA%\Sun\Java\jre1.6.0_18, Java 6 Update 19 would put it under %APPDATA%\Sun\Java\jre1.6.0_19, a hypothetical Java 7 Update 1 would put it under %APPDATA%\Sun\Java\jre1.7.0_1, etc. Sun (now Oracle) should stop pretending and just give us the MSI. James Rankin wrote: I've been trying to extract the msi for days for Java. Care to share any pointers, and I might be able to contribute to your problem resolution? :-) -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
Sun (now Oracle) should stop pretending and just give us the MSI. But then they can't bundle the Yahoo Toolbar! -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO If you download and run the executable you will find the MSI in a subfolder of %APPDATA%\Sun\Java. The installer for Java 6 Update 18 puts the MSI under %APPDATA%\Sun\Java\jre1.6.0_18, Java 6 Update 19 would put it under %APPDATA%\Sun\Java\jre1.6.0_19, a hypothetical Java 7 Update 1 would put it under %APPDATA%\Sun\Java\jre1.7.0_1, etc. Sun (now Oracle) should stop pretending and just give us the MSI. James Rankin wrote: I've been trying to extract the msi for days for Java. Care to share any pointers, and I might be able to contribute to your problem resolution? :-) -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
I always set the option to uninstall this application when it falls out of the scope of management. Then when a new version is out, I remove the old package from the GPO and add the new one. On reboot, the computer will uninstall the old version (including quick start) before installing the new. -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO I've been deploying Java via GPO since early in the Java 5 days. The Java Quick Start that was introduced with Java 6 Update 10 causes exactly the symptoms you see when you try to update Java 6 via GPO. To get around it I set that service to not start via GPO. Sam Cayze wrote: Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO? I'm finding the Update 18 MSI takes seriously forever to install on my test machines. All with previous version of Java. XP Pro Sp3. Anyway to find out why? I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs before... Tia. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
