RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
David James bigdadd...@gmail.com wrote on 12/31/2008 02:55:28 PM: I can run my ps3 1080p over the HDMI input, but when I hook up the PC over HDCMI it only goes to 1366 x 768. computer resolution and HD resolutions are different somehow, I've never quite understood why a 1080p tv won't do 1920 x 1080. More then likely your HDMI Extended Display Identification Data (EDID) is wrong or your computer is reading it wrong. More then likely it's a driver issue in Windows since the PS3 works correctly. This is nvidia specific, but the concepts are universal: http://analogbit.com/node/23 Eric Eskam =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any position of the U.S. Government The human mind treats a new idea the same way the body treats a strange protein; it rejects it. - P. B. Medawar ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
+1 -- ME2 On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:05 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: I could be wrong, but a 1080p HDTV is basically like a 1920x1080 monitor or a 720p is 1280x720 that you can't change the resolution on. I infer It from this: http://www.cnet.com/hdtv-resolution/ True A-V geeks will likely chime in here. The p vs i discussions remind me of the early SVGA days where some monitors were interlaced and other non-interlaced (non-interlaced being the better choice), nowadays we hear progressive instead of non-interlaced. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? I was looking to replace my aging 14 tube monitor with an LCD monitor. However, it seems like, for the price of a 22 LCD flatpanel monitor, I can get a 22 LCD HDTV which includes a tv tuner. So is there any reason to buy a LCD flatpanel monitor? The prices are about the same for a LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV. Thoughts? Feel free to msg off-list if this is considered OT. JR mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft(r) Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:11 PM, RM r...@richardmay.net wrote: Interestingly, my Vizio claims that if you want full 1080 over the HDMI port with a PC source, you must have a native HDMI output on your PC ... Part of the issue may be that 1920x1...@60hz is near the total bandwidth available in a single DVI channel. Not at or over, but near. So it may be beyond the capabilities of signal components which were just barely adequate at lower resolutions. Dual-link DVI can do it no problem, but there's a significant increase in signal processing complexity there. VGA, component, single/dual DVI-I/D/A, HDMI, DisplayPort... I love standards, there are so many to chose from! -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
I agree, the only standard is that there is no standard! -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 3:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:11 PM, RM r...@richardmay.net wrote: Interestingly, my Vizio claims that if you want full 1080 over the HDMI port with a PC source, you must have a native HDMI output on your PC ... Part of the issue may be that 1920x1...@60hz is near the total bandwidth available in a single DVI channel. Not at or over, but near. So it may be beyond the capabilities of signal components which were just barely adequate at lower resolutions. Dual-link DVI can do it no problem, but there's a significant increase in signal processing complexity there. VGA, component, single/dual DVI-I/D/A, HDMI, DisplayPort... I love standards, there are so many to chose from! -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
I would double check the resolution the LCD is capable of. Beyond that, no reason not to. Not all LCD TVs support the resolution a same-size LCD flatpanel monitor will. jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote: I was looking to replace my aging 14 tube monitor with an LCD monitor. However, it seems like, for the price of a 22 LCD flatpanel monitor, I can get a 22 LCD HDTV which includes a tv tuner. So is there any reason to buy a LCD flatpanel monitor? The prices are about the same for a LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV. Thoughts? Feel free to msg off-list if this is considered OT. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
Well I just got an email a little while ago about LCD 22 under $150, I don't think you can get a LCD HDTV for that, as a matter of fact I think they are almost twice that price. -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? I was looking to replace my aging 14 tube monitor with an LCD monitor. However, it seems like, for the price of a 22 LCD flatpanel monitor, I can get a 22 LCD HDTV which includes a tv tuner. So is there any reason to buy a LCD flatpanel monitor? The prices are about the same for a LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV. Thoughts? Feel free to msg off-list if this is considered OT. JR mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft(r) Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
I could be wrong, but a 1080p HDTV is basically like a 1920x1080 monitor or a 720p is 1280x720 that you can't change the resolution on. I infer It from this: http://www.cnet.com/hdtv-resolution/ True A-V geeks will likely chime in here. The p vs i discussions remind me of the early SVGA days where some monitors were interlaced and other non-interlaced (non-interlaced being the better choice), nowadays we hear progressive instead of non-interlaced. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? I was looking to replace my aging 14 tube monitor with an LCD monitor. However, it seems like, for the price of a 22 LCD flatpanel monitor, I can get a 22 LCD HDTV which includes a tv tuner. So is there any reason to buy a LCD flatpanel monitor? The prices are about the same for a LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV. Thoughts? Feel free to msg off-list if this is considered OT. JR mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft(r) Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
Funny you say this. I just bought a 22 LCD HDTV for my Daughter's room and was thinking that if/when she gets a computer in her room, the TV will double as a monitor. I have not hooked a computer up to it yet so I cannot comment on the quality yet. Don Guyer Systems Engineer Information Services Prudential Fox Roach/ Trident 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Ph: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 www.prufoxroach.com don.gu...@prufoxroach.com -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? I was looking to replace my aging 14 tube monitor with an LCD monitor. However, it seems like, for the price of a 22 LCD flatpanel monitor, I can get a 22 LCD HDTV which includes a tv tuner. So is there any reason to buy a LCD flatpanel monitor? The prices are about the same for a LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV. Thoughts? Feel free to msg off-list if this is considered OT. JR mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft(r) Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
HDTV will support HDCP as well, which you'll want to get all the features of HD TV. A lot of the LCD monitors have HDMI in now, but won't give you the full benefits HDCP does. -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? I would double check the resolution the LCD is capable of. Beyond that, no reason not to. Not all LCD TVs support the resolution a same-size LCD flatpanel monitor will. jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote: I was looking to replace my aging 14 tube monitor with an LCD monitor. However, it seems like, for the price of a 22 LCD flatpanel monitor, I can get a 22 LCD HDTV which includes a tv tuner. So is there any reason to buy a LCD flatpanel monitor? The prices are about the same for a LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV. Thoughts? Feel free to msg off-list if this is considered OT. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
Yeah everyone is right here... Resolution on the monitors is MUCH better. Night and day difference. Dell just had their 22 wide on sale for $140. -Original Message- From: David James [mailto:bigdadd...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? HDTV will support HDCP as well, which you'll want to get all the features of HD TV. A lot of the LCD monitors have HDMI in now, but won't give you the full benefits HDCP does. -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? I would double check the resolution the LCD is capable of. Beyond that, no reason not to. Not all LCD TVs support the resolution a same-size LCD flatpanel monitor will. jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote: I was looking to replace my aging 14 tube monitor with an LCD monitor. However, it seems like, for the price of a 22 LCD flatpanel monitor, I can get a 22 LCD HDTV which includes a tv tuner. So is there any reason to buy a LCD flatpanel monitor? The prices are about the same for a LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV. Thoughts? Feel free to msg off-list if this is considered OT. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
I can run my ps3 1080p over the HDMI input, but when I hook up the PC over HDCMI it only goes to 1366 x 768. computer resolution and HD resolutions are different somehow, I've never quite understood why a 1080p tv won't do 1920 x 1080. Maybe someone else has done that and can tell me how, I'd love to put my 32 HDTV on my desk, I just can't take the lower resolution. -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? I could be wrong, but a 1080p HDTV is basically like a 1920x1080 monitor or a 720p is 1280x720 that you can't change the resolution on. I infer It from this: http://www.cnet.com/hdtv-resolution/ True A-V geeks will likely chime in here. The p vs i discussions remind me of the early SVGA days where some monitors were interlaced and other non-interlaced (non-interlaced being the better choice), nowadays we hear progressive instead of non-interlaced. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? I was looking to replace my aging 14 tube monitor with an LCD monitor. However, it seems like, for the price of a 22 LCD flatpanel monitor, I can get a 22 LCD HDTV which includes a tv tuner. So is there any reason to buy a LCD flatpanel monitor? The prices are about the same for a LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV. Thoughts? Feel free to msg off-list if this is considered OT. JR mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft(r) Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
The Insignia LCD-HDTV I'm looking at (22 720p) says it does 1650x1050. Any reason this wouldn't be as good as a regular old LCD panel that does 1650x1050? Original Message: - From: David James bigdadd...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:55:28 -0600 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? I can run my ps3 1080p over the HDMI input, but when I hook up the PC over HDCMI it only goes to 1366 x 768. computer resolution and HD resolutions are different somehow, I've never quite understood why a 1080p tv won't do 1920 x 1080. Maybe someone else has done that and can tell me how, I'd love to put my 32 HDTV on my desk, I just can't take the lower resolution. -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? I could be wrong, but a 1080p HDTV is basically like a 1920x1080 monitor or a 720p is 1280x720 that you can't change the resolution on. I infer It from this: http://www.cnet.com/hdtv-resolution/ True A-V geeks will likely chime in here. The p vs i discussions remind me of the early SVGA days where some monitors were interlaced and other non-interlaced (non-interlaced being the better choice), nowadays we hear progressive instead of non-interlaced. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? I was looking to replace my aging 14 tube monitor with an LCD monitor. However, it seems like, for the price of a 22 LCD flatpanel monitor, I can get a 22 LCD HDTV which includes a tv tuner. So is there any reason to buy a LCD flatpanel monitor? The prices are about the same for a LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV. Thoughts? Feel free to msg off-list if this is considered OT. JR mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft(r) Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
My Samsung 46 LCD does 1920X1080P just fine with my laptop hooked up to the back of it using a DVI connection. Perhaps your tv isn't what the marketing genius' now call True HD. True HD televisions support 1920X1080P resolution over either DVI or HDMI. If you're using a VGA cable good luck - I've had nothing but bad experiencing trying to go above 1024X768 using a VGA connection. For a living room, 1920X1080P works great for a PC screen resolution - but if you're talking about putting it on your desk, I agree that one is better off with a LCD monitor. On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:55 PM, David James bigdadd...@gmail.com wrote: I can run my ps3 1080p over the HDMI input, but when I hook up the PC over HDCMI it only goes to 1366 x 768. computer resolution and HD resolutions are different somehow, I've never quite understood why a 1080p tv won't do 1920 x 1080. Maybe someone else has done that and can tell me how, I'd love to put my 32 HDTV on my desk, I just can't take the lower resolution. -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? I could be wrong, but a 1080p HDTV is basically like a 1920x1080 monitor or a 720p is 1280x720 that you can't change the resolution on. I infer It from this: http://www.cnet.com/hdtv-resolution/ True A-V geeks will likely chime in here. The p vs i discussions remind me of the early SVGA days where some monitors were interlaced and other non-interlaced (non-interlaced being the better choice), nowadays we hear progressive instead of non-interlaced. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? I was looking to replace my aging 14 tube monitor with an LCD monitor. However, it seems like, for the price of a 22 LCD flatpanel monitor, I can get a 22 LCD HDTV which includes a tv tuner. So is there any reason to buy a LCD flatpanel monitor? The prices are about the same for a LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV. Thoughts? Feel free to msg off-list if this is considered OT. JR mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft(r) Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:55 PM, David James bigdadd...@gmail.com wrote: I've never quite understood why a 1080p tv won't do 1920 x 1080. From what I've read: In theory, a TV is just a display monitor with a built-in tuner. But in practice, there can be hidden differences in what the tuning and signal processing electronics can handle. In ATSC, there's no definition for 1080p (1920x1080 progressive). 1080i (interlaced) is the highest they go. So a TV claiming 1080p is claiming something that isn't defined in the TV standards. In some cases, apparently this is a pure marketing gimmick: They're referring to the fact the actual display panel always draws all lines, so it's progressive, even though the signal input electronics don't have the capability of processing a 1080p signal. I imagine some TVs actually can accept a 1920x1080 progressive signal from a computer. The specs should say exactly what modes it supports. If they don't, don't count on them. There's also all the other specs that might matter, like brightness, contrast ratio, pixel refresh speed, pixel pitch, and so on. I know it used to be that monitors intended for TV were much inferior to monitors intended for use with a computer in this regard. So check those specs carefully. Caveat emptor. (ATSC = Advanced Television Standards Committee, which defined most of the digital TV and high-def TV stuff for the US.) (Progressive/interlace: Progressive means drawing every pixel line for every vertical refresh. Interlaced draws all the even lines in one refresh, all the odd lines the next. In the days of the original NTSC tube TVs, this meant less bandwidth (you only had to send half the lines per unit of time), and less expensive electronics, since the beam sweeping the tube didn't have to move as fast. With digital flat panels, there's no beam sweep, so it's always doing *something* for all pixels. But if the signal feeding it is interlace, there's no data for half the lines, so it either uses the last field, or fills in black, or interpolates, or otherwise makes up data.) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
Good info Ben. OP: You could get the LCD monitor, and add a $30 dollar TV tuner to your PC, making it into a TV?!!? -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV? On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:55 PM, David James bigdadd...@gmail.com wrote: I've never quite understood why a 1080p tv won't do 1920 x 1080. From what I've read: In theory, a TV is just a display monitor with a built-in tuner. But in practice, there can be hidden differences in what the tuning and signal processing electronics can handle. In ATSC, there's no definition for 1080p (1920x1080 progressive). 1080i (interlaced) is the highest they go. So a TV claiming 1080p is claiming something that isn't defined in the TV standards. In some cases, apparently this is a pure marketing gimmick: They're referring to the fact the actual display panel always draws all lines, so it's progressive, even though the signal input electronics don't have the capability of processing a 1080p signal. I imagine some TVs actually can accept a 1920x1080 progressive signal from a computer. The specs should say exactly what modes it supports. If they don't, don't count on them. There's also all the other specs that might matter, like brightness, contrast ratio, pixel refresh speed, pixel pitch, and so on. I know it used to be that monitors intended for TV were much inferior to monitors intended for use with a computer in this regard. So check those specs carefully. Caveat emptor. (ATSC = Advanced Television Standards Committee, which defined most of the digital TV and high-def TV stuff for the US.) (Progressive/interlace: Progressive means drawing every pixel line for every vertical refresh. Interlaced draws all the even lines in one refresh, all the odd lines the next. In the days of the original NTSC tube TVs, this meant less bandwidth (you only had to send half the lines per unit of time), and less expensive electronics, since the beam sweeping the tube didn't have to move as fast. With digital flat panels, there's no beam sweep, so it's always doing *something* for all pixels. But if the signal feeding it is interlace, there's no data for half the lines, so it either uses the last field, or fills in black, or interpolates, or otherwise makes up data.) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: LCD monitor vs LCD HDTV?
There are a couple of web pages out there that attempt to document which units can do the full 1920x1080 over the VGA port. Some can and some cannot. Interestingly, my Vizio claims that if you want full 1080 over the HDMI port with a PC source, you must have a native HDMI output on your PC; A DVI-to-HDMI convertor won't work. As for the VGA port, 1080 looks awful (it's interlaced and overscanned). 1366x768 is the top clean resolution. Be sure to do your homework. I wish I had. RM On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:09:42 -0500, Bryan Garmon bryan.gar...@gmail.co m said: My Samsung 46 LCD does 1920X1080P just fine with my laptop hooked up to the back of it using a DVI connection. Perhaps your tv isn't what the marketing genius' now call True HD. True HD televisions support 1920X1080P resolution over either DVI or HDMI. If you're using a VGA cable good luck - I've had nothing but bad experiencing trying to go above 1024X768 using a VGA connection. For a living room, 1920X1080P works great for a PC screen resolution - but if you're talking about putting it on your desk, I agree that one is better off with a LCD monitor. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
