RE: Making images to restore to new hardware
Thats what we did use before Acronis, but it doesn't allow for new hardware. Also, bartpe is a pain to update with new drivers if you boot from an existing cd and find it doesn't work. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 April 2008 19:56 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Making images to restore to new hardware BartPE + DriveImageXML? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Oliver Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/10/2008 10:02:31 AM: Other than Acronis and their pile-o-poo server products, can anyone recommend something that will allow me to make standard images for client builds and then allow me to roll them out to various hardware types? (ie we tend to make a CLIENT_A_MANAGER image and a CLIENT_B_DEV image etc for various client/role combinations and then we need to image them either laptops, desktops, workstations etc). Acronis just errors so often it's not funny. I thought about Ghost but haven't used that for many many years. I'd also like the ability to easily 'archive' the images off to cheap USB disks or something for clients we don't speak to often. Any suggestions ? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Making images to restore to new hardware
Really? Got a url Michael? I'm all up for free/simple/basic solutions. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 April 2008 13:57 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Making images to restore to new hardware And, by the way, unlike earlier comments made it about ImageX, it has options for allowing you to have both a generalized HAL AND a generalized set of storage drivers. You can deploy an ImageX created this way on almost any hardware. I thought that was the case, but I needed to go back and verify that... Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:06 AM To: 'NT System Admin Issues' Subject: RE: Making images to restore to new hardware ImageX. Part of Windows. Free for the download. -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Making images to restore to new hardware Other than Acronis and their pile-o-poo server products, can anyone recommend something that will allow me to make standard images for client builds and then allow me to roll them out to various hardware types? (ie we tend to make a CLIENT_A_MANAGER image and a CLIENT_B_DEV image etc for various client/role combinations and then we need to image them either laptops, desktops, workstations etc). Acronis just errors so often it's not funny. I thought about Ghost but haven't used that for many many years. I'd also like the ability to easily 'archive' the images off to cheap USB disks or something for clients we don't speak to often. Any suggestions ? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Making images to restore to new hardware
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/2154c2e3-90a1-46c2-80e 8-57bea12542491033.mspx That's one of the top three results from a google search imagex site:*.microsoft.com :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Making images to restore to new hardware Really? Got a url Michael? I'm all up for free/simple/basic solutions. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 April 2008 13:57 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Making images to restore to new hardware And, by the way, unlike earlier comments made it about ImageX, it has options for allowing you to have both a generalized HAL AND a generalized set of storage drivers. You can deploy an ImageX created this way on almost any hardware. I thought that was the case, but I needed to go back and verify that... Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:06 AM To: 'NT System Admin Issues' Subject: RE: Making images to restore to new hardware ImageX. Part of Windows. Free for the download. -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Making images to restore to new hardware Other than Acronis and their pile-o-poo server products, can anyone recommend something that will allow me to make standard images for client builds and then allow me to roll them out to various hardware types? (ie we tend to make a CLIENT_A_MANAGER image and a CLIENT_B_DEV image etc for various client/role combinations and then we need to image them either laptops, desktops, workstations etc). Acronis just errors so often it's not funny. I thought about Ghost but haven't used that for many many years. I'd also like the ability to easily 'archive' the images off to cheap USB disks or something for clients we don't speak to often. Any suggestions ? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Making images to restore to new hardware
The free for the download part is here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=C7D4BC6D-15F3-4284- 9123-679830D629F2 Carl -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Making images to restore to new hardware http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/2154c2e3-90a1-46c2-80e 8-57bea12542491033.mspx That's one of the top three results from a google search imagex site:*.microsoft.com :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Making images to restore to new hardware Really? Got a url Michael? I'm all up for free/simple/basic solutions. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 April 2008 13:57 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Making images to restore to new hardware And, by the way, unlike earlier comments made it about ImageX, it has options for allowing you to have both a generalized HAL AND a generalized set of storage drivers. You can deploy an ImageX created this way on almost any hardware. I thought that was the case, but I needed to go back and verify that... Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:06 AM To: 'NT System Admin Issues' Subject: RE: Making images to restore to new hardware ImageX. Part of Windows. Free for the download. -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Making images to restore to new hardware Other than Acronis and their pile-o-poo server products, can anyone recommend something that will allow me to make standard images for client builds and then allow me to roll them out to various hardware types? (ie we tend to make a CLIENT_A_MANAGER image and a CLIENT_B_DEV image etc for various client/role combinations and then we need to image them either laptops, desktops, workstations etc). Acronis just errors so often it's not funny. I thought about Ghost but haven't used that for many many years. I'd also like the ability to easily 'archive' the images off to cheap USB disks or something for clients we don't speak to often. Any suggestions ? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Making images to restore to new hardware
On 10 Apr 2008 at 11:05, Michael B. Smith wrote: ImageX. Part of Windows. Free for the download. Appears to be Vista-only ... am I wrong about this? -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +---+ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Making images to restore to new hardware
Well... yes. It works with XP, 2003, Vista, 2008. Angus Scott-Fleming wrote: Appears to be Vista-only ... am I wrong about this? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Making images to restore to new hardware
ImageX. Part of Windows. Free for the download. -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Making images to restore to new hardware Other than Acronis and their pile-o-poo server products, can anyone recommend something that will allow me to make standard images for client builds and then allow me to roll them out to various hardware types? (ie we tend to make a CLIENT_A_MANAGER image and a CLIENT_B_DEV image etc for various client/role combinations and then we need to image them either laptops, desktops, workstations etc). Acronis just errors so often it's not funny. I thought about Ghost but haven't used that for many many years. I'd also like the ability to easily 'archive' the images off to cheap USB disks or something for clients we don't speak to often. Any suggestions ? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Making images to restore to new hardware
In reality, this means that you have the ACPI HAL - which I'd guess 99%+ of computers these days do. For desktop, you've got IDE and USB. What else? I image my servers separately anyway, don't you? Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Making images to restore to new hardware Yes, but being an MS imaging product all is not what it seems; ImageX... 1)Requires that the destination computer use the same Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) as the master computer. 2)Requires that the destination computer boot from the same mass-storage controller as the master computer. Thats why we went to TI with Universal Restore in the first place. Shame it doesn't work though. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 April 2008 16:06 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Making images to restore to new hardware ImageX. Part of Windows. Free for the download. -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Making images to restore to new hardware Other than Acronis and their pile-o-poo server products, can anyone recommend something that will allow me to make standard images for client builds and then allow me to roll them out to various hardware types? (ie we tend to make a CLIENT_A_MANAGER image and a CLIENT_B_DEV image etc for various client/role combinations and then we need to image them either laptops, desktops, workstations etc). Acronis just errors so often it's not funny. I thought about Ghost but haven't used that for many many years. I'd also like the ability to easily 'archive' the images off to cheap USB disks or something for clients we don't speak to often. Any suggestions ? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Making images to restore to new hardware
Still using XP? If so, Ghost and sysprep are working pretty well here... Haven't done any vista imaging yet. No plans to roll it... Archive? I just copy the image files to USB drives and store them... ** Charlie Kaiser W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security Systems Engineer Essex Credit / Brickwalk 925 274 3183 ** -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Making images to restore to new hardware Other than Acronis and their pile-o-poo server products, can anyone recommend something that will allow me to make standard images for client builds and then allow me to roll them out to various hardware types? (ie we tend to make a CLIENT_A_MANAGER image and a CLIENT_B_DEV image etc for various client/role combinations and then we need to image them either laptops, desktops, workstations etc). Acronis just errors so often it's not funny. I thought about Ghost but haven't used that for many many years. I'd also like the ability to easily 'archive' the images off to cheap USB disks or something for clients we don't speak to often. Any suggestions ? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Making images to restore to new hardware
Our workstations range from IDE, SATA to SAS based units and it's sods law that the day we need to do an emergency restore from an image is the day we hit a strange setup. Any options *other* than ImageX and Acronis? Olly -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 April 2008 16:17 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Making images to restore to new hardware In reality, this means that you have the ACPI HAL - which I'd guess 99%+ of computers these days do. For desktop, you've got IDE and USB. What else? I image my servers separately anyway, don't you? Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Making images to restore to new hardware Yes, but being an MS imaging product all is not what it seems; ImageX... 1)Requires that the destination computer use the same Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) as the master computer. 2)Requires that the destination computer boot from the same mass-storage controller as the master computer. Thats why we went to TI with Universal Restore in the first place. Shame it doesn't work though. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 April 2008 16:06 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Making images to restore to new hardware ImageX. Part of Windows. Free for the download. -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Making images to restore to new hardware Other than Acronis and their pile-o-poo server products, can anyone recommend something that will allow me to make standard images for client builds and then allow me to roll them out to various hardware types? (ie we tend to make a CLIENT_A_MANAGER image and a CLIENT_B_DEV image etc for various client/role combinations and then we need to image them either laptops, desktops, workstations etc). Acronis just errors so often it's not funny. I thought about Ghost but haven't used that for many many years. I'd also like the ability to easily 'archive' the images off to cheap USB disks or something for clients we don't speak to often. Any suggestions ? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Making images to restore to new hardware
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:11:45 +0100, Oliver Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ImageX... 1)Requires that the destination computer use the same Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) as the master computer. 2)Requires that the destination computer boot from the same mass- storage controller as the master computer. The HAL thing is a non-issue -- Everything is multiproc (HALMACPI.DLL) these days. The same mass-storage controller? I beg to differ. The [SysprepMassStorage] section of sysprep.inf was created to deal with this exact issue. We have a single IBM server Win2003 image that spans the x336, x346, x3250, x3550, and x3650. RM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
