RE: Pushing an .msp with Group policy

2009-04-01 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
That method only works if the software packages have their box checked to 
uninstall this application when it falls out of the scope of management in 
their deployment tab properties.

The method we like to use for this sort of thing is to leave the policy linked, 
but right-click the deployed package, choose all tasks, and remove.  Choose 
to immediately uninstall.  Then, deploy the new software package in the same 
GPO.  As long as you know your software works and do them in the correct order, 
the old one will uninstall and the new one will install on the same reboot.

-Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Pushing an .msp with Group policy

OK, I was able to apply the patch to my previous admin install.
However, the new 8.1.4 won't install until the old version (8.1.3) is
uninstalled.  According to an adobe document on installing Adobe Reader
with GPO, you can uninstall software previously installed via GPO by
unlinking the GPO from the OU.  I've removed the link but the software
does not get uninstalled.  What's the trick to get the old stuff
uninstalled so I can install the new stuff?  This would be a whole lot
simpler if Adobe would just uninstall their old junk when you install
the new junk!

Thanks for your help.

Curt

 -Original Message-
 From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:11 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Pushing an .msp with Group policy
 
 What I did was to perform and administrative install of 8.1.3 then
apply
 the 8.1.4 patch to that.
 
 Then you just put the 8.1.4 admin install point in the appropriate
GPO.
 
 Jim Dandy wrote:
  The update of Adobe Reader 8.1.3 to 8.1.4 is an msp - not an msi.
I'd
  like to push it with group policy.  Is there a way to do that?  Do I
  have to somehow convert it to an msi?  Thanks for your help.
 
 --
 
 Phil Brutsche
 p...@optimumdata.com
 
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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


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Re: Pushing an .msp with Group policy

2009-03-31 Thread Phil Brutsche
What I did was to perform and administrative install of 8.1.3 then apply
the 8.1.4 patch to that.

Then you just put the 8.1.4 admin install point in the appropriate GPO.

Jim Dandy wrote:
 The update of Adobe Reader 8.1.3 to 8.1.4 is an msp - not an msi.  I'd
 like to push it with group policy.  Is there a way to do that?  Do I
 have to somehow convert it to an msi?  Thanks for your help.

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Pushing an .msp with Group policy

2009-03-31 Thread Jim Dandy
OK, I was able to apply the patch to my previous admin install.
However, the new 8.1.4 won't install until the old version (8.1.3) is
uninstalled.  According to an adobe document on installing Adobe Reader
with GPO, you can uninstall software previously installed via GPO by
unlinking the GPO from the OU.  I've removed the link but the software
does not get uninstalled.  What's the trick to get the old stuff
uninstalled so I can install the new stuff?  This would be a whole lot
simpler if Adobe would just uninstall their old junk when you install
the new junk!

Thanks for your help.

Curt

 -Original Message-
 From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:11 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Pushing an .msp with Group policy
 
 What I did was to perform and administrative install of 8.1.3 then
apply
 the 8.1.4 patch to that.
 
 Then you just put the 8.1.4 admin install point in the appropriate
GPO.
 
 Jim Dandy wrote:
  The update of Adobe Reader 8.1.3 to 8.1.4 is an msp - not an msi.
I'd
  like to push it with group policy.  Is there a way to do that?  Do I
  have to somehow convert it to an msi?  Thanks for your help.
 
 --
 
 Phil Brutsche
 p...@optimumdata.com
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Pushing an .msp with Group policy

2009-03-31 Thread Phil Brutsche
If you patch an existing AIP you technically aren't creating an updated
version - the GPO doesn't know to install the new version.

The trick is to make a new 8.1.3 admin install point - a new one
separate from whatever you used to install 8.1.3 - and apply the 8.1.4
patch to that ;)

Once you have the 8.1.4 AIP you just add it to the GPO and it should
upgrade (*should* - patched install points don't always work properly)
Adobe Reader 8.1.3 to 8.1.4.

That's the way it worked with the Acrobat Standard 7.1.0 - 7.1.1 update
I had to deploy.

Current versions of Adobe's stuff *does* properly update itself; ever
since Adobe Reader 7 I have never had a problem with in-place upgrades.
The trick is that you need to have the appropriate MSI first. For some
reason only they know they didn't make the MSIs for Adobe Reader 7.1.1
and 8.1.4 avaiable, only the MSP.

BTW - I learned the hard way that you never edit the original MSI unless
you have absolutely no other choice. That applies to MSPs as well as
customizations (hard-coding product key/serial #, shortcuts, program
options, etc). If you are using AD GPOs for deployment, and you need to
add MSPs to your AIP, you're better off creating a fresh AIP and
applying the patches to that before deploying. If you need to make
customizations you're better off creating a transform (.mst). The GPOs
will let you apply transforms on the Modifications tab.

Jim Dandy wrote:
 OK, I was able to apply the patch to my previous admin install.
 However, the new 8.1.4 won't install until the old version (8.1.3) is
 uninstalled.  According to an adobe document on installing Adobe Reader
 with GPO, you can uninstall software previously installed via GPO by
 unlinking the GPO from the OU.  I've removed the link but the software
 does not get uninstalled.  What's the trick to get the old stuff
 uninstalled so I can install the new stuff?  This would be a whole lot
 simpler if Adobe would just uninstall their old junk when you install
 the new junk!

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~