RE: RAS appliances

2009-04-17 Thread Bill Songstad (WCUL)
I'm pretty happy with my new Sonicwall SSL 2000 VPN appliance $2000.00.
I chose it because I wanted to allow remote access to remote desktop
hosts on my network without having to worry too much about the integrity
of the remote user's machine.  I disabled all the networking on the
appliance and only allow RDP connections.  Only the appliance actually
contacts the Remote Desktop Host, and the user sees the proxy in ActiveX
or Java.   I can allow my accountants to access sensitive data since I
can control copying and printing to the remote user's machine.  I've
only had it up for a month, and I only have 20 users, but so far so
good.  

 

The users love it because they can use pretty much any computer and
don't have to worry about lugging their own machine around just in case
they might need access.  Also there is no VPN software to install, run,
or troubleshoot.  Any browser from any platform that can handle Java or
ActiveX will do.  It will even run from a live Linux CD.  (pclinuxos
2009)

 

Set up was a little less than intuitive, but I had it running and
validating user logins against AD in a few hours.

 

Bill 

 

 

From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RAS appliances

 

We're currently using a managed service for our remote access.  We've no
complaints except for the cost.  It's used for doctors' offices and
staff to connect; about 120 users at this time.

I am looking into alternatives.  Can someone tell me what they're using
and how they like it?  

 

Thanks,

 

Paul Chinnery

Network Administrator

Memorial Medical Center

231-845-2319

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: RAS appliances

2009-04-17 Thread Richard Stovall
The TS Gateway feature of Server 2008 Terminal Services works well and is 
pretty easy to set up.  You can also limit resource redirection via policy.  
Your users have to be running a native RDP client, however.

 

Richard

 

From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:administra...@waleague.org] 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RAS appliances

 

m pretty happy with my new Sonicwall SSL 2000 VPN appliance $2000.00.  I 
chose it because I wanted to allow remote access to remote desktop hosts on my 
network without having to worry too much about the integrity of the remote 
us�s machine.  I disabled all the networking on the appliance and only 
allow RDP connections.  Only the appliance actually contacts the Remote Desktop 
Host, and the user sees the proxy in ActiveX or Java.   I can allow my 
accountants to access sensitive data since I can control copying and printing 
to the remote us�s machine.  I���ve only had it up for a month, and I only 
have 20 users, but so far so good.  

 

The users love it because they can use pretty much any computer and d�t 
have to worry about lugging their own machine around just in case they might 
need access.  Also there is no VPN software to install, run, or troubleshoot.  
Any browser from any platform that can handle Java or ActiveX will do.  It will 
even run from a live Linux CD.  (pclinuxos 2009)

 

Set up was a little less than intuitive, but I had it running and validating 
user logins against AD in a few hours.

 

Bill 

 

 

From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RAS appliances

 

We're currently using a managed service for our remote access.  We've no 
complaints except for the cost.  It's used for doctors' offices and staff to 
connect; about 120 users at this time.

I am looking into alternatives.  Can someone tell me what they're using and how 
they like it?  

 

Thanks,

 

Paul Chinnery

Network Administrator

Memorial Medical Center

231-845-2319

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: RAS appliances

2009-04-17 Thread Don Ely
How do you ensure the remote PC's are properly protected and not infected
with some virii/malware/spyware that could infiltrate your network?

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Bill Songstad (WCUL) 
administra...@waleague.org wrote:

  I’m pretty happy with my new Sonicwall SSL 2000 VPN appliance $2000.00.
 I chose it because I wanted to allow remote access to remote desktop hosts
 on my network without having to worry too much about the integrity of the
 remote user’s machine.  I disabled all the networking on the appliance and
 only allow RDP connections.  Only the appliance actually contacts the Remote
 Desktop Host, and the user sees the proxy in ActiveX or Java.   I can allow
 my accountants to access sensitive data since I can control copying and
 printing to the remote user’s machine.  I’ve only had it up for a month, and
 I only have 20 users, but so far so good.



 The users love it because they can use pretty much any computer and don’t
 have to worry about lugging their own machine around just in case they might
 need access.  Also there is no VPN software to install, run, or
 troubleshoot.  Any browser from any platform that can handle Java or ActiveX
 will do.  It will even run from a live Linux CD.  (pclinuxos 2009)



 Set up was a little less than intuitive, but I had it running and
 validating user logins against AD in a few hours.



 *Bill *





 *From:* Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2009 4:36 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RAS appliances



 We're currently using a managed service for our remote access.  We've no
 complaints except for the cost.  It's used for doctors' offices and staff to
 connect; about 120 users at this time.

 I am looking into alternatives.  Can someone tell me what they're using and
 how they like it?



 Thanks,



 *Paul Chinnery*

 *Network Administrator*

 *Memorial Medical Center*

 *231-845-2319*















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: RAS appliances

2009-04-17 Thread N Parr
We're doing the same thing with our Cisco ASA over web based SSL VPN for
less than 1K.  It's our poor man's terminal server.  And we set the
landing page on the ASA to publish links to other internal resources
like Intranet, webmail, etc.
Niles



From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:administra...@waleague.org] 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RAS appliances



I'm pretty happy with my new Sonicwall SSL 2000 VPN appliance $2000.00.
I chose it because I wanted to allow remote access to remote desktop
hosts on my network without having to worry too much about the integrity
of the remote user's machine.  I disabled all the networking on the
appliance and only allow RDP connections.  Only the appliance actually
contacts the Remote Desktop Host, and the user sees the proxy in ActiveX
or Java.   I can allow my accountants to access sensitive data since I
can control copying and printing to the remote user's machine.  I've
only had it up for a month, and I only have 20 users, but so far so
good.  

 

The users love it because they can use pretty much any computer and
don't have to worry about lugging their own machine around just in case
they might need access.  Also there is no VPN software to install, run,
or troubleshoot.  Any browser from any platform that can handle Java or
ActiveX will do.  It will even run from a live Linux CD.  (pclinuxos
2009)

 

Set up was a little less than intuitive, but I had it running and
validating user logins against AD in a few hours.

 

Bill 

 

 

From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RAS appliances

 

We're currently using a managed service for our remote access.  We've no
complaints except for the cost.  It's used for doctors' offices and
staff to connect; about 120 users at this time.

I am looking into alternatives.  Can someone tell me what they're using
and how they like it?  

 

Thanks,

 

Paul Chinnery

Network Administrator

Memorial Medical Center

231-845-2319

 

 

 

 

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: RAS appliances

2009-04-17 Thread John Cook
Microsoft IAG (N Appliance) SSL VPN with ISA 2006 on it. Very configurable but 
does take a little reading to get it right. It does endpoint checks for a slew 
of possibilities that you decide upon like AV update/Scan minimums, Windows 
updates, etc... A little overkill for some but it works well for us. Oh, and 
it'll publish Sharepoint as well as several other apps. Not cheap but you get 
what you pay for.

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RAS appliances

We're currently using a managed service for our remote access.  We've no 
complaints except for the cost.  It's used for doctors' offices and staff to 
connect; about 120 users at this time.
I am looking into alternatives.  Can someone tell me what they're using and how 
they like it?

Thanks,

Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Memorial Medical Center
231-845-2319








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RE: RAS appliances

2009-04-17 Thread Bill Songstad (WCUL)
I'm at the mercy of the nerds at Sonicwall for the info since I don't
have a big enough propeller to test it myself, but they assured me that
since the remote client is connecting to a server page on the Sonicwall
VPN device, and the Sonicwall is making a separate connection to the RDP
host, no traffic actually connects the infected client to the secure RDP
host.  They said that it all falls apart if I enable any of the
networking features on the Sonicwall VPN device, but as long as I only
run the RDP client, it works like a proxy that blocks any pass-through
traffic.  

 

I'd be grateful if anyone knew how to test their assertion.

 

Bill 

 

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RAS appliances

 

How do you ensure the remote PC's are properly protected and not
infected with some virii/malware/spyware that could infiltrate your
network?

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Bill Songstad (WCUL)
administra...@waleague.org wrote:

I'm pretty happy with my new Sonicwall SSL 2000 VPN appliance $2000.00.
I chose it because I wanted to allow remote access to remote desktop
hosts on my network without having to worry too much about the integrity
of the remote user's machine.  I disabled all the networking on the
appliance and only allow RDP connections.  Only the appliance actually
contacts the Remote Desktop Host, and the user sees the proxy in ActiveX
or Java.   I can allow my accountants to access sensitive data since I
can control copying and printing to the remote user's machine.  I've
only had it up for a month, and I only have 20 users, but so far so
good.  

 

The users love it because they can use pretty much any computer and
don't have to worry about lugging their own machine around just in case
they might need access.  Also there is no VPN software to install, run,
or troubleshoot.  Any browser from any platform that can handle Java or
ActiveX will do.  It will even run from a live Linux CD.  (pclinuxos
2009)

 

Set up was a little less than intuitive, but I had it running and
validating user logins against AD in a few hours.

 

Bill 

 

 

From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RAS appliances

 

We're currently using a managed service for our remote access.  We've no
complaints except for the cost.  It's used for doctors' offices and
staff to connect; about 120 users at this time.

I am looking into alternatives.  Can someone tell me what they're using
and how they like it?  

 

Thanks,

 

Paul Chinnery

Network Administrator

Memorial Medical Center

231-845-2319

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: RAS appliances

2009-04-17 Thread Joseph L. Casale
You might consider preventing resource redirection as well then via GPO.

From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:administra...@waleague.org]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RAS appliances

I'm at the mercy of the nerds at Sonicwall for the info since I don't have a 
big enough propeller to test it myself, but they assured me that since the 
remote client is connecting to a server page on the Sonicwall VPN device, and 
the Sonicwall is making a separate connection to the RDP host, no traffic 
actually connects the infected client to the secure RDP host.  They said that 
it all falls apart if I enable any of the networking features on the Sonicwall 
VPN device, but as long as I only run the RDP client, it works like a proxy 
that blocks any pass-through traffic.

I'd be grateful if anyone knew how to test their assertion.

Bill

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RAS appliances

How do you ensure the remote PC's are properly protected and not infected with 
some virii/malware/spyware that could infiltrate your network?
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Bill Songstad (WCUL) 
administra...@waleague.orgmailto:administra...@waleague.org wrote:

I'm pretty happy with my new Sonicwall SSL 2000 VPN appliance $2000.00.  I 
chose it because I wanted to allow remote access to remote desktop hosts on my 
network without having to worry too much about the integrity of the remote 
user's machine.  I disabled all the networking on the appliance and only allow 
RDP connections.  Only the appliance actually contacts the Remote Desktop Host, 
and the user sees the proxy in ActiveX or Java.   I can allow my accountants to 
access sensitive data since I can control copying and printing to the remote 
user's machine.  I've only had it up for a month, and I only have 20 users, but 
so far so good.



The users love it because they can use pretty much any computer and don't have 
to worry about lugging their own machine around just in case they might need 
access.  Also there is no VPN software to install, run, or troubleshoot.  Any 
browser from any platform that can handle Java or ActiveX will do.  It will 
even run from a live Linux CD.  (pclinuxos 2009)



Set up was a little less than intuitive, but I had it running and validating 
user logins against AD in a few hours.



Bill





From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.commailto:pa...@mmcwm.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RAS appliances



We're currently using a managed service for our remote access.  We've no 
complaints except for the cost.  It's used for doctors' offices and staff to 
connect; about 120 users at this time.

I am looking into alternatives.  Can someone tell me what they're using and how 
they like it?



Thanks,



Paul Chinnery

Network Administrator

Memorial Medical Center

231-845-2319






















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~