Re: RTFM Advice

2011-08-08 Thread Ben Scott 
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Crawford, Scott  wrote:
> RE: +MAX_INT
> Nice :)

  I strive for platform neutrality in my list postings.  ;-)

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RE: RTFM Advice

2011-08-08 Thread Crawford, Scott 
RE: +MAX_INT
Nice :)

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 1:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RTFM Advice

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:10 AM, David Lum  wrote:
> LOL. that's what I use this list is for. I type up a question and as 
> often as not as I am gathering all the relevant info I need as often 
> as not I will find the answer myself and don't have to bother the list with 
> it J.

  +MAX_INT.

  Frequently, in the course of doing my homework before going to the next step 
(be it posting to a list, or calling support, etc.), I solve the problem.  
Sometimes I come across a quiet mention of a critical detail in a document.  
Sometimes I see a subtle mistake once I've written everything down neatly.  
Sometimes I hit upon new search terms.  Sometimes when I'm going through the 
list of things you should always try, I realize I haven't tried one of them.

  Any which way you slice it, there's a reason the standard drill is the 
standard drill: *It works*.

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Re: RTFM Advice

2011-08-08 Thread Ben Scott 
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:10 AM, David Lum  wrote:
> LOL. that’s what I use this list is for. I type up a question and as often
> as not as I am gathering all the relevant info I need as often as not I will
> find the answer myself and don’t have to bother the list with it J.

  +MAX_INT.

  Frequently, in the course of doing my homework before going to the
next step (be it posting to a list, or calling support, etc.), I solve
the problem.  Sometimes I come across a quiet mention of a critical
detail in a document.  Sometimes I see a subtle mistake once I've
written everything down neatly.  Sometimes I hit upon new search
terms.  Sometimes when I'm going through the list of things you should
always try, I realize I haven't tried one of them.

  Any which way you slice it, there's a reason the standard drill is
the standard drill: *It works*.

-- Ben

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RE: RTFM Advice

2011-08-08 Thread Kim Longenbaugh 
I'm just trying to figure what prompted this.  ;-)

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RTFM Advice

Good read.

http://www.sqlskills.com/BLOGS/PAUL/post/RTFM-No-seriously-RTFM-Then-ask-your-question.aspx


Carl Webster
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Re: RTFM Advice

2011-08-08 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec 
I think through my snarky comments now too.  Hence much fewer posts.


On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> I do this all the time, when I have a question and not a snarky comment.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:10 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>
>> LOL. that’s what I use this list is for. I type up a question and as often
>> as not as I am gathering all the relevant info I need as often as not I will
>> find the answer myself and don’t have to bother the list with it J.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> This list has helped me answer far more of my questions than just the ones
>> I’ve hit “send” on.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Ben Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:31 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: RTFM Advice
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I’ve been sending people this one for years:  Please see
>> http://www.officeforlawyers.com/howask.htm 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Sadly those kinds of articles will continue to be needed for many years to
>> come.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Ben M. Schorr
>>
>> Chief Executive Officer
>>
>> __
>>
>> Roland Schorr & Tower
>>
>> www.rolandschorr.com
>>
>> b...@rolandschorr.com
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 07, 2011 5:16
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RTFM Advice
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Good read.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> http://www.sqlskills.com/BLOGS/PAUL/post/RTFM-No-seriously-RTFM-Then-ask-your-question.aspx
>> 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Carl Webster
>>
>> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>>
>> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
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Re: RTFM Advice

2011-08-08 Thread Jonathan Link 
I do this all the time, when I have a question and not a snarky comment.

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:10 AM, David Lum  wrote:

> LOL. that’s what I use this list is for. I type up a question and as often
> as not as I am gathering all the relevant info I need as often as not I will
> find the answer myself and don’t have to bother the list with it J.
>
> ** **
>
> This list has helped me answer far more of my questions than just the ones
> I’ve hit “send” on.
>
> ** **
>
> Dave
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Ben Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:31 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: RTFM Advice
>
> ** **
>
> I’ve been sending people this one for years:  Please see
> http://www.officeforlawyers.com/howask.htm 
>
> ** **
>
> Sadly those kinds of articles will continue to be needed for many years to
> come.
>
> ** **
>
> Ben M. Schorr
>
> Chief Executive Officer
>
> __
>
> Roland Schorr & Tower
>
> www.rolandschorr.com
>
> b...@rolandschorr.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 07, 2011 5:16
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RTFM Advice
>
> ** **
>
> Good read.
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://www.sqlskills.com/BLOGS/PAUL/post/RTFM-No-seriously-RTFM-Then-ask-your-question.aspx
> 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
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RE: RTFM Advice

2011-08-08 Thread David Lum 
LOL. that's what I use this list is for. I type up a question and as often as 
not as I am gathering all the relevant info I need as often as not I will find 
the answer myself and don't have to bother the list with it :).

This list has helped me answer far more of my questions than just the ones I've 
hit "send" on.

Dave

From: Ben Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RTFM Advice

I've been sending people this one for years:  Please see 
http://www.officeforlawyers.com/howask.htm

Sadly those kinds of articles will continue to be needed for many years to come.

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com<http://www.rolandschorr.com>
b...@rolandschorr.com<mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com>

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 5:16
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RTFM Advice

Good read.

http://www.sqlskills.com/BLOGS/PAUL/post/RTFM-No-seriously-RTFM-Then-ask-your-question.aspx


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>



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Re: RTFM Advice

2011-08-07 Thread Kurt Buff 
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 05:16, Webster  wrote:
> Good read.
>
>
>
> http://www.sqlskills.com/BLOGS/PAUL/post/RTFM-No-seriously-RTFM-Then-ask-your-question.aspx
>
>
>
>
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com
>
>
>
>
>
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> ~   ~
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RE: RTFM Advice

2011-08-07 Thread Ben Schorr 
I've been sending people this one for years:  Please see
http://www.officeforlawyers.com/howask.htm 

 

Sadly those kinds of articles will continue to be needed for many years
to come.

 

Ben M. Schorr

Chief Executive Officer

__

Roland Schorr & Tower

www.rolandschorr.com

b...@rolandschorr.com

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 5:16
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RTFM Advice

 

Good read.

 

http://www.sqlskills.com/BLOGS/PAUL/post/RTFM-No-seriously-RTFM-Then-ask
-your-question.aspx

 

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com  

 

 

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Re: RTFM Advice

2011-08-07 Thread Jeff Steward 
I'll see you that very good article and raise you ASB's
http://kb.ultratech-llc.com/?File=~Help.TXT and the close cousin
http://kb.ultratech-llc.com/?File=~MoreInfo.TXT

Sadly, history has shown that those who most need the advice in these
articles won't read them.  A few will though, and a new breed of BOFH will
be born.

-Jeff Steward





On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Webster  wrote:

>  Good read.
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://www.sqlskills.com/BLOGS/PAUL/post/RTFM-No-seriously-RTFM-Then-ask-your-question.aspx
> 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com 
>
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>
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>
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