RE: San recommendations
You could go out (if you wanted to) and get yourself a quad core box, with 16gb of ram, 8 or 16 SAS/SATA drives, and put on Nexenta Community edition . Works with vmware, failover NICS and everything . I would say after working for the past few years with Lefthand and Equallogic, I have no problem with Nexenta, all of them have odd little bugs, nothing I saw at the time did real time replication (other than Datacore and DRBD). We moved our snapshots now to Veeam so don't need that feature anywhere (Nexenta has it along with de-duping on the wire). If not you can go with any of Nexentas preferred hardware vendors. The only issue I have with that is the vendor want(ed) to setup the device with hardware raid, and Nexenta recommends using the RAID-Z software raid for easier management and better performance (which I verified in my own sans). Outside of that its as good a product out there for the price point as anything else and with the free version @ 16TB of raw storage, that could suffice for probably *most* small/medium organizations. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: San recommendations Isilon...similar technology to Compellent. Very pricy too, but awesome tech. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: Depends on your environment, but +1 on NetApp. From: Craig Sterley [mailto:cster...@ostusa.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: San recommendations netapp From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: San recommendations If I was looking right now, in no particular order, I would be looking at: Compellent Nexenta Sun Unified Storage HP P4000 Nimble EQL Of course you haven't mentioned budget or what level of IO you ned to sustain, and the above range wildly in price and performance. Paul From: Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] Sent: 18 October 2011 02:02 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: San recommendations Recommendations.. Need about 12TB, ability to scale up, ISCSI for SQL/Exchange, Dedupe at the block level, Don't need replication at the moment. Got a quote on an EQ box, anyone else throw out recommendations. Thx Greg Sweers CEO http://www.acts360.com/ ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: San recommendations
Compellent, Couldn't be happier, Great Management tool's, easy to setup, great scalability (not forklift like EMC), very nicely priced From: Lists - Level Five [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: San recommendations Nexenta? From: Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com]mailto:[mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: San recommendations Recommendations.. Need about 12TB, ability to scale up, ISCSI for SQL/Exchange, Dedupe at the block level, Don't need replication at the moment. Got a quote on an EQ box, anyone else throw out recommendations. Thx Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: San recommendations
If I was looking right now, in no particular order, I would be looking at: Compellent Nexenta Sun Unified Storage HP P4000 Nimble EQL Of course you haven't mentioned budget or what level of IO you ned to sustain, and the above range wildly in price and performance. Paul From: Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] Sent: 18 October 2011 02:02 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: San recommendations Recommendations.. Need about 12TB, ability to scale up, ISCSI for SQL/Exchange, Dedupe at the block level, Don't need replication at the moment. Got a quote on an EQ box, anyone else throw out recommendations. Thx Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: San recommendations
netapp From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: San recommendations If I was looking right now, in no particular order, I would be looking at: Compellent Nexenta Sun Unified Storage HP P4000 Nimble EQL Of course you haven't mentioned budget or what level of IO you ned to sustain, and the above range wildly in price and performance. Paul From: Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com]mailto:[mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] Sent: 18 October 2011 02:02 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: San recommendations Recommendations.. Need about 12TB, ability to scale up, ISCSI for SQL/Exchange, Dedupe at the block level, Don't need replication at the moment. Got a quote on an EQ box, anyone else throw out recommendations. Thx Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: San recommendations
Depends on your environment, but +1 on NetApp. From: Craig Sterley [mailto:cster...@ostusa.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: San recommendations netapp From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: San recommendations If I was looking right now, in no particular order, I would be looking at: Compellent Nexenta Sun Unified Storage HP P4000 Nimble EQL Of course you haven't mentioned budget or what level of IO you ned to sustain, and the above range wildly in price and performance. Paul From: Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com]mailto:[mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] Sent: 18 October 2011 02:02 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: San recommendations Recommendations.. Need about 12TB, ability to scale up, ISCSI for SQL/Exchange, Dedupe at the block level, Don't need replication at the moment. Got a quote on an EQ box, anyone else throw out recommendations. Thx Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: San recommendations
Isilon...similar technology to Compellent. Very pricy too, but awesome tech. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.comwrote: Depends on your environment, but +1 on NetApp. ** ** *From:* Craig Sterley [mailto:cster...@ostusa.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:14 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: San recommendations ** ** netapp ** ** *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:55 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: San recommendations ** ** If I was looking right now, in no particular order, I would be looking at: ** ** Compellent Nexenta Sun Unified Storage HP P4000 Nimble EQL ** ** Of course you haven’t mentioned budget or what level of IO you ned to sustain, and the above range wildly in price and performance. ** ** Paul *From:* Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] *Sent:* 18 October 2011 02:02 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* San recommendations ** ** Recommendations.. ** ** Need about 12TB, ability to scale up, ISCSI for SQL/Exchange, Dedupe at the block level, Don’t need replication at the moment. ** ** Got a quote on an EQ box, anyone else throw out recommendations. ** ** Thx ** ** *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com* http://www.acts360.com/** *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-758-6850 Cell* *813-341-1270 Fax* ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- *MIRA Ltd* ** ** Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 ** ** The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: San recommendations
Nexenta? From: Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: San recommendations Recommendations.. Need about 12TB, ability to scale up, ISCSI for SQL/Exchange, Dedupe at the block level, Don't need replication at the moment. Got a quote on an EQ box, anyone else throw out recommendations. Thx Greg Sweers CEO http://www.acts360.com/ ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: San Recommendations
We actually decided on a HP MSA 2000i. simply for our ISCSI setup. Looking at 20tb initially and adding another shelve later down the track, if we even need it. We will deal with our FC setup when our cx300 runs out of warranty.. anyone have any experience with the 2000i? Greg From: Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: San Recommendations Thanks Martin I am waiting confirmation from Dell that we can use our existing shelves and disks but i think that is true as we have been told it is a more cost effective solution as far as being able to upgrade.. Obviously this leaves HP out of the question. FC is working well for us and whilst i do love the idea of cheap sata disks for our non prod and low end storage requirements i am not sure that SATA will provide the iops, throughput maybe, to sustain our database servers and mail servers. Thanks for your info. Greg From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: San Recommendations Greg, will the new SAN allow you to reuse your existing shelves or disks? I'm not sure if you were alluding to that or not, but obviously if you can, that would be a huge advantage. Also, FC rocks, but don't think that ISCSI can't handle your enterprise applications. Especially with 10GB Ethernet out there. SATA is also starting to gain a foothold there as well. I'm still not 100% sold on the later, but its moving up. It also makes for great archival storage. -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: San Recommendations Guys We are in the process of updating our aging and nearly out of warranty Dell CX300 SAN. We were looking at the CX3-20 as we currently use FC disks. The CX3-20 would allow us to use FC and Sata with ISCI shelves. The SATA/ISCSI will be handy for our non production and non critical requirements. We have now started to look at HP because they are trying to appease us and i would like to know if anyone has any recommendations on HP san models. This office has about 250-300 users with a pro/non prod requirement for potentially 100tb or near of space. We would also like to preferably keep our FC available for the exchange, sql and oracle use that is our core business. Fwiw the majority of our servers are broken into vmware ESX hosts (prod and non prod) Be interested to hear anyone's thoughts. Greg ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: San Recommendations
Greg, Just curious, did you look at the NS Series from EMC for your iSCSI needs? - Sean On 7/10/08, Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We actually decided on a HP MSA 2000i. simply for our ISCSI setup. Looking at 20tb initially and adding another shelve later down the track, if we even need it. We will deal with our FC setup when our cx300 runs out of warranty.. anyone have any experience with the 2000i? Greg From: Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: San Recommendations Thanks Martin I am waiting confirmation from Dell that we can use our existing shelves and disks but i think that is true as we have been told it is a more cost effective solution as far as being able to upgrade.. Obviously this leaves HP out of the question. FC is working well for us and whilst i do love the idea of cheap sata disks for our non prod and low end storage requirements i am not sure that SATA will provide the iops, throughput maybe, to sustain our database servers and mail servers. Thanks for your info. Greg From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: San Recommendations Greg, will the new SAN allow you to reuse your existing shelves or disks? I'm not sure if you were alluding to that or not, but obviously if you can, that would be a huge advantage. Also, FC rocks, but don't think that ISCSI can't handle your enterprise applications. Especially with 10GB Ethernet out there. SATA is also starting to gain a foothold there as well. I'm still not 100% sold on the later, but its moving up. It also makes for great archival storage. -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: San Recommendations Guys We are in the process of updating our aging and nearly out of warranty Dell CX300 SAN. We were looking at the CX3-20 as we currently use FC disks. The CX3-20 would allow us to use FC and Sata with ISCI shelves. The SATA/ISCSI will be handy for our non production and non critical requirements. We have now started to look at HP because they are trying to appease us and i would like to know if anyone has any recommendations on HP san models. This office has about 250-300 users with a pro/non prod requirement for potentially 100tb or near of space. We would also like to preferably keep our FC available for the exchange, sql and oracle use that is our core business. Fwiw the majority of our servers are broken into vmware ESX hosts (prod and non prod) Be interested to hear anyone's thoughts. Greg ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: San Recommendations
No we didn't really have a choice. HP was the only option due to special circumstances!! From: Sean Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 9:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: San Recommendations Greg, Just curious, did you look at the NS Series from EMC for your iSCSI needs? - Sean On 7/10/08, Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We actually decided on a HP MSA 2000i. simply for our ISCSI setup. Looking at 20tb initially and adding another shelve later down the track, if we even need it. We will deal with our FC setup when our cx300 runs out of warranty.. anyone have any experience with the 2000i? Greg From: Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: San Recommendations Thanks Martin I am waiting confirmation from Dell that we can use our existing shelves and disks but i think that is true as we have been told it is a more cost effective solution as far as being able to upgrade.. Obviously this leaves HP out of the question. FC is working well for us and whilst i do love the idea of cheap sata disks for our non prod and low end storage requirements i am not sure that SATA will provide the iops, throughput maybe, to sustain our database servers and mail servers. Thanks for your info. Greg From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: San Recommendations Greg, will the new SAN allow you to reuse your existing shelves or disks? I'm not sure if you were alluding to that or not, but obviously if you can, that would be a huge advantage. Also, FC rocks, but don't think that ISCSI can't handle your enterprise applications. Especially with 10GB Ethernet out there. SATA is also starting to gain a foothold there as well. I'm still not 100% sold on the later, but its moving up. It also makes for great archival storage. -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: San Recommendations Guys We are in the process of updating our aging and nearly out of warranty Dell CX300 SAN. We were looking at the CX3-20 as we currently use FC disks. The CX3-20 would allow us to use FC and Sata with ISCI shelves. The SATA/ISCSI will be handy for our non production and non critical requirements. We have now started to look at HP because they are trying to appease us and i would like to know if anyone has any recommendations on HP san models. This office has about 250-300 users with a pro/non prod requirement for potentially 100tb or near of space. We would also like to preferably keep our FC available for the exchange, sql and oracle use that is our core business. Fwiw the majority of our servers are broken into vmware ESX hosts (prod and non prod) Be interested to hear anyone's thoughts. Greg ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: San Recommendations
Greg, will the new SAN allow you to reuse your existing shelves or disks? I'm not sure if you were alluding to that or not, but obviously if you can, that would be a huge advantage. Also, FC rocks, but don't think that ISCSI can't handle your enterprise applications. Especially with 10GB Ethernet out there. SATA is also starting to gain a foothold there as well. I'm still not 100% sold on the later, but its moving up. It also makes for great archival storage. -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: San Recommendations Guys We are in the process of updating our aging and nearly out of warranty Dell CX300 SAN. We were looking at the CX3-20 as we currently use FC disks. The CX3-20 would allow us to use FC and Sata with ISCI shelves. The SATA/ISCSI will be handy for our non production and non critical requirements. We have now started to look at HP because they are trying to appease us and i would like to know if anyone has any recommendations on HP san models. This office has about 250-300 users with a pro/non prod requirement for potentially 100tb or near of space. We would also like to preferably keep our FC available for the exchange, sql and oracle use that is our core business. Fwiw the majority of our servers are broken into vmware ESX hosts (prod and non prod) Be interested to hear anyone's thoughts. Greg ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: San Recommendations
Thanks Martin I am waiting confirmation from Dell that we can use our existing shelves and disks but i think that is true as we have been told it is a more cost effective solution as far as being able to upgrade.. Obviously this leaves HP out of the question. FC is working well for us and whilst i do love the idea of cheap sata disks for our non prod and low end storage requirements i am not sure that SATA will provide the iops, throughput maybe, to sustain our database servers and mail servers. Thanks for your info. Greg From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: San Recommendations Greg, will the new SAN allow you to reuse your existing shelves or disks? I'm not sure if you were alluding to that or not, but obviously if you can, that would be a huge advantage. Also, FC rocks, but don't think that ISCSI can't handle your enterprise applications. Especially with 10GB Ethernet out there. SATA is also starting to gain a foothold there as well. I'm still not 100% sold on the later, but its moving up. It also makes for great archival storage. -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: San Recommendations Guys We are in the process of updating our aging and nearly out of warranty Dell CX300 SAN. We were looking at the CX3-20 as we currently use FC disks. The CX3-20 would allow us to use FC and Sata with ISCI shelves. The SATA/ISCSI will be handy for our non production and non critical requirements. We have now started to look at HP because they are trying to appease us and i would like to know if anyone has any recommendations on HP san models. This office has about 250-300 users with a pro/non prod requirement for potentially 100tb or near of space. We would also like to preferably keep our FC available for the exchange, sql and oracle use that is our core business. Fwiw the majority of our servers are broken into vmware ESX hosts (prod and non prod) Be interested to hear anyone's thoughts. Greg ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
