RE: Spam appliances/services
I've had great success with MailMarshal for many years now. It's simple to configure and just works. SPAM filtering as well as content filtering and just about anything else you may ever want to do with gateway email control is included. http://www.m86security.com/products/email_security/mailmarshal-smtp.asp From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, 24 September 2010 12:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Spam appliances/services
If you're an eCAL customer or have the Exchange Enterprise CAL w/ Svcs then you're entitled to the Forefront Online Protection for Exchange (FOPE) solution as part of that. The customers I've had deploy it have been extremely happy with it. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam appliances/services Indeed... ASB On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.commailto:rhw...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, email filtering is the ideal application for cloud computing. Most of the nasties originate out there anyway, so keep all that junk off your circuit entirely. +1 First-pass email filtering is one of the few things I like to put in the cloud. I don't even get many connection attempts to our real mail intake, and anything not from the service's IP range is easily dropped. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Spam appliances/services
I love IronPort, but they are pricey units. Barracuda is also a pretty good solution On 24 September 2010 00:56, Brad DeHart br...@khs-net.com wrote: +1 for IronPort. *From:* Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:54 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Spam appliances/services We had Barracuda, and loved it. When it came time to replace due to age, we looked around again. This time we went with Ironport. We like it even better. The big difference (to us) is the reputation filter simply drops a large part of spam and malware laden email at the network connection level. So that traffic doesn't consume any bandwidth. I believe the levels of spam getting through is marginally better. But not enough to actually be a negative against Barracuda. I have no concerns about recommending either. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Kern Health Systems Confidentiality Statement: This email and any attachments are legally privileged and can contain business proprietary and/or confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. The authorized recipient of this information is prohibited from disclosing this information to any other party unless required to do so by law or regulation and is required to destroy the information after its stated need has been fulfilled. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of these documents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately and arrange for the return or destruction of these documents. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Spam appliances/services
Agree with everything Jim said. I run a Barracuda 300 with 125 users and my only compalint is the web interface is extremly slow due to the volume of email it processes. - Original Message - From: Jim Holmgren jholmg...@xlhealth.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:52:13 AM Subject: RE: Spam appliances/services Barracuda. No per-user fees, very configurable and awesome tech support. I had them at %previousjob% and am trying like heck to get them in at %currentjob%. They’ll even send you a 90 eval unit for free if you want to try it out. Jim Holmgren Manager of Server Engineering XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member of as permitted by law is prohibited and punishable under Federal Law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este mensaje incluyendo cualquier anejo es para uso exclusivo del (los) destinatario (s) y puede incluir informaci�n confidencial y/o informaci�n de salud protegida. La Ley Federal (HIPAA) establece que el destinatario est� obligado a mantener la informaci�n confidencial y sequra. HIPAA proh�be y castiga cualquier divulgaci�n a terceras personas sin autorizaci�n del afiliado o permitido por ley. Si usted no es el destinatario, redirija esta mensaje al remitente, y destruye cualquier copia existente del mensaje original. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Spam appliances/services
Indeed... *ASB * * * On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, email filtering is the ideal application for cloud computing. Most of the nasties originate out there anyway, so keep all that junk off your circuit entirely. +1 First-pass email filtering is one of the few things I like to put in the cloud. I don't even get many connection attempts to our real mail intake, and anything not from the service's IP range is easily dropped. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Spam appliances/services
http://www.gfi.com/hosted-email-security Excellent continuity feature in this product - truly remarkable. Antispam and Antivirus are also quite good. Alex From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Spam appliances/services
We need to fix that page... we're actually not shipping that product. We are coming out with an appliance in December. From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam appliances/services In fairness to the list sponsor, the do have an appliance that doesn't require you to run Exchange: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/Ninja-Blade/ -Jeff Steward On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Spam appliances/services
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Alex Eckelberry al...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: We need to fix that page… we’re actually not shipping that product. That's never stopped anyone from advertising something. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Spam appliances/services
Barracuda. No per-user fees, very configurable and awesome tech support. I had them at %previousjob% and am trying like heck to get them in at %currentjob%. They'll even send you a 90 eval unit for free if you want to try it out. Jim Holmgren Manager of Server Engineering XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member of as permitted by law is prohibited and punishable under Federal Law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este facsímile, incluyendo lo adjunto, es para el uso exclusivo del destinatario(s) y puede contener información confidencial y/o información protegida de salud. En virtud de la Ley Federal (HIPAA), el destinatario tiene la obligación de mantener esta información segura y confidencial. Cualquier divulgación a terceros sin la autorización de los miembros de lo permitido por la ley está prohibido y penado en virtud de la Ley Federal. Si usted no es el destinatario, por favor, póngase en contacto con el remitente por teléfono y destruir todas las copias del mensaje original ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Spam appliances/services
We had Barracuda, and loved it. When it came time to replace due to age, we looked around again. This time we went with Ironport. We like it even better. The big difference (to us) is the reputation filter simply drops a large part of spam and malware laden email at the network connection level. So that traffic doesn't consume any bandwidth. I believe the levels of spam getting through is marginally better. But not enough to actually be a negative against Barracuda. I have no concerns about recommending either. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Spam appliances/services
I've used Google's Postini mail filtering service very successfully in two environments. I found it cumbersome to setup initially but very effective and hands-off once configured. Users receive daily quarantine summaries and can easily tweak their individual approved/blocked lists. I selected inbound filtering only for just $3 per user per year (!) and Google has continued to renew at that rate for our church. The other company is no longer in business. Roger Wright ___ When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't nothin' like it! On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Spam appliances/services
A year ago I would have recommended the Ironmail Product. I still love ours, but since it was purchased by McAfee I am less hesitant to recommend it. The customer service with McAfee, well I guess I really don't need to say any more. If I had to purchase it now, I am not sure I would. The Product is wonderful, I love that it just works and block most things. The ability to have it scan incoming email with multiple antivirus products is another plus, currently we have two different antivirus products licensed for it. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Spam appliances/services
We had Barracuda and moved to Brightmail a while back. I know, it has the shame of Symantec about it but it's an awesome product anyway. DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.217.6851 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam appliances/services We had Barracuda, and loved it. When it came time to replace due to age, we looked around again. This time we went with Ironport. We like it even better. The big difference (to us) is the reputation filter simply drops a large part of spam and malware laden email at the network connection level. So that traffic doesn't consume any bandwidth. I believe the levels of spam getting through is marginally better. But not enough to actually be a negative against Barracuda. I have no concerns about recommending either. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Spam appliances/services
In fairness to the list sponsor, the do have an appliance that doesn't require you to run Exchange: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/Ninja-Blade/ -Jeff Steward On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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Our mail is being filtered by our ISP using a RedCondor appliance. Barracuda wasn't doing so hot for us. We were seeing a lot of stuff get through, so they switched us over to their RedCondor. Unfortunately there was an issue with delivering email to their mail server directly from the RedCondor, so they are routing the email from the RedCondor and just passing it through the Barracuda to the mail server. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Spam appliances/services
Barracuda works well. We don't use the per-user quarantine, but it is available. They now offer a VMware VM in addition to hardware solutions (see http://www.barracudanetworks.com/ns/products/vm_overview.php). One thing I've always like about Barracuda is that you can demo the products for a month before committing. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Spam appliances/services
Currently everybody but myself here has their email being filtered by a hosted antispam service at onlymyemail.com. We've been using them for several years now. Spam has dropped to literally zero. False positives are very few and far between. You get a daily email with what has been blocked, and you can fetch such a report on-demand at any time. However, I have opened the floodgates to my own email address (yes I am a glutton for punishment) so I can test the anti-spam gateway in our Watchguard Firebox UTM appliance, and so far, its spam filter has been dead on accurate as well, so we may be looking to abandon the hosted anti-spam service. Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Spam appliances/services
+10 for the Barracuda. 90% of our SPAM is blocked by reputation services, and doesnt even get to the appliance so not using bandwidth. Out the box it just works, and with a little tweaking you may never see SPAM again. The only time I personally see spam is when I decide to check the message logs and see whats happening. We run 28 domains on ours, filtering for our customers, and have per domain whitelisting, blacklisting and quarantine, as well as per use for a couple of clients. Cant recomend them highly enough. Graeme On 23 September 2010 16:03, Phillip Partipilo p...@psnet.com wrote: Currently everybody but myself here has their email being filtered by a hosted antispam service at onlymyemail.com. We’ve been using them for several years now. Spam has dropped to literally zero. False positives are very few and far between. You get a daily email with what has been blocked, and you can fetch such a report on-demand at any time. However, I have opened the floodgates to my own email address (yes I am a glutton for punishment) so I can test the anti-spam gateway in our Watchguard Firebox UTM appliance, and so far, its spam filter has been dead on accurate as well, so we may be looking to abandon the hosted anti-spam service. Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Spam appliances/services
+1 on the Barracuda, been using one for 4-5 years now. Using global policy and once I had the spam and ham trained it was set and forget. From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Spam appliances/services Barracuda. No per-user fees, very configurable and awesome tech support. I had them at %previousjob% and am trying like heck to get them in at %currentjob%. They'll even send you a 90 eval unit for free if you want to try it out. Jim Holmgren Manager of Server Engineering XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member of as permitted by law is prohibited and punishable under Federal Law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este mensaje incluyendo cualquier anejo es para uso exclusivo del (los) destinatario (s) y puede incluir información confidencial y/o información de salud protegida. La Ley Federal (HIPAA) establece que el destinatario está obligado a mantener la información confidencial y sequra. HIPAA prohíbe y castiga cualquier divulgación a terceras personas sin autorización del afiliado o permitido por ley. Si usted no es el destinatario, redirija esta mensaje al remitente, y destruye cualquier copia existente del mensaje original. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. I can say this: Avoid MX Logic (now owned by McAfee (now owned by Intel)). -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Spam appliances/services
+1! Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam appliances/services On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. I can say this: Avoid MX Logic (now owned by McAfee (now owned by Intel)). -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Spam appliances/services
www.exchangedefender.comhttp://www.exchangedefender.com has a really good reputation in the SMB space and I have been really happy with them as a customer also. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Spam appliances/services
I still use Brightmail. I think it does a hell of a good job. It runs as a VM (the package it for you), so no appliance needed (unless you want to buy one which they will be happy to sell you) From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Spam appliances/services We had Barracuda and moved to Brightmail a while back. I know, it has the shame of Symantec about it but it's an awesome product anyway. DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.217.6851 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam appliances/services We had Barracuda, and loved it. When it came time to replace due to age, we looked around again. This time we went with Ironport. We like it even better. The big difference (to us) is the reputation filter simply drops a large part of spam and malware laden email at the network connection level. So that traffic doesn't consume any bandwidth. I believe the levels of spam getting through is marginally better. But not enough to actually be a negative against Barracuda. I have no concerns about recommending either. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Spam appliances/services
+1 on Brightmail. Every time I needed support, their support staff is awesome. I know, hard to imagine :) Sam From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 12:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Spam appliances/services I still use Brightmail. I think it does a hell of a good job. It runs as a VM (the package it for you), so no appliance needed (unless you want to buy one which they will be happy to sell you) From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Spam appliances/services We had Barracuda and moved to Brightmail a while back. I know, it has the shame of Symantec about it but it's an awesome product anyway. DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.217.6851 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam appliances/services We had Barracuda, and loved it. When it came time to replace due to age, we looked around again. This time we went with Ironport. We like it even better. The big difference (to us) is the reputation filter simply drops a large part of spam and malware laden email at the network connection level. So that traffic doesn't consume any bandwidth. I believe the levels of spam getting through is marginally better. But not enough to actually be a negative against Barracuda. I have no concerns about recommending either. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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Good things about the barracuda that standout are no per user licensing and easy to setup for multiple domains with or without ldap lookups. Since looking at other options, I really like the ease and flexibility of how it handles domains. One bad thing that negates some of its price savings: While software support is included in your yearly licensing, hardware support is not. You have to purchase their instant replacement service in addition and it costs about the same as a yearly software/energize updates. We have a client that had a mirror fail near the end of a three year license on a barracuda 400. Options from barracuda: Pay $700 and ship it to them. Turnaround of at least 3 weeks. Other option: Pay $3k for the past three years of instant replacement coverage and they will overnight a box. So, you can get a 400 box with five years of updates bundled with it for $8k, but you need to also pay $4k if you want barracuda to help with a hardware failure. Bill N Parr wrote: +1 on the Barracuda, been using one for 4-5 years now. Using global policy and once I had the spam and ham trained it was set and forget. *From:* Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com] *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:52 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Spam appliances/services Barracuda. No per-user fees, very configurable and awesome tech support. I had them at %previousjob% and am trying like heck to get them in at %currentjob%. They'll even send you a 90 eval unit for free if you want to try it out. Jim Holmgren Manager of Server Engineering XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member of as permitted by law is prohibited and punishable under Federal Law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este mensaje incluyendo cualquier anejo es para uso exclusivo del (los) destinatario (s) y puede incluir información confidencial y/o información de salud protegida. La Ley Federal (HIPAA) establece que el destinatario está obligado a mantener la información confidencial y sequra. HIPAA prohíbe y castiga cualquier divulgación a terceras personas sin autorización del afiliado o permitido por ley. Si usted no es el destinatario, redirija esta
Re: Spam appliances/services
We are running Brightmail VM, licensed for x number of users. we are in process of creating 3 separate email domains, same number of users. Symantec told us we could run 3 VM's no additional license/fees because number of clients we are licensed for is not changing. the filter does a pretty good job here too. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote: Good things about the barracuda that standout are no per user licensing and easy to setup for multiple domains with or without ldap lookups. Since looking at other options, I really like the ease and flexibility of how it handles domains. One bad thing that negates some of its price savings: While software support is included in your yearly licensing, hardware support is not. You have to purchase their instant replacement service in addition and it costs about the same as a yearly software/energize updates. We have a client that had a mirror fail near the end of a three year license on a barracuda 400. Options from barracuda: Pay $700 and ship it to them. Turnaround of at least 3 weeks. Other option: Pay $3k for the past three years of instant replacement coverage and they will overnight a box. So, you can get a 400 box with five years of updates bundled with it for $8k, but you need to also pay $4k if you want barracuda to help with a hardware failure. Bill N Parr wrote: +1 on the Barracuda, been using one for 4-5 years now. Using global policy and once I had the spam and ham trained it was set and forget. -- *From:* Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.comjholmg...@xlhealth.com] *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:52 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Spam appliances/services Barracuda. No per-user fees, very configurable and awesome tech support. I had them at %previousjob% and am trying like heck to get them in at %currentjob%. They’ll even send you a 90 eval unit for free if you want to try it out. Jim Holmgren Manager of Server Engineering XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org tmil...@hnncsb.org] *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member of as permitted by law is prohibited and punishable under Federal Law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este mensaje incluyendo cualquier anejo es para uso exclusivo del (los) destinatario (s) y puede incluir información confidencial y/o información de salud protegida. La Ley Federal (HIPAA
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I ran in to the replacement issue on my web filter, turned out it was much cheaper to just buy a new box. I wonder how they price the virtual spam appliance. They obviously can't sell any hardware warranties with it. From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam appliances/services Good things about the barracuda that standout are no per user licensing and easy to setup for multiple domains with or without ldap lookups. Since looking at other options, I really like the ease and flexibility of how it handles domains. One bad thing that negates some of its price savings: While software support is included in your yearly licensing, hardware support is not. You have to purchase their instant replacement service in addition and it costs about the same as a yearly software/energize updates. We have a client that had a mirror fail near the end of a three year license on a barracuda 400. Options from barracuda: Pay $700 and ship it to them. Turnaround of at least 3 weeks. Other option: Pay $3k for the past three years of instant replacement coverage and they will overnight a box. So, you can get a 400 box with five years of updates bundled with it for $8k, but you need to also pay $4k if you want barracuda to help with a hardware failure. Bill N Parr wrote: !--[if mso 9]-- !--[endif]-- +1 on the Barracuda, been using one for 4-5 years now. Using global policy and once I had the spam and ham trained it was set and forget. From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Spam appliances/services Barracuda. No per-user fees, very configurable and awesome tech support. I had them at %previousjob% and am trying like heck to get them in at %currentjob%. They'll even send you a 90 eval unit for free if you want to try it out. Jim Holmgren Manager of Server Engineering XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member
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IMHO, email filtering is the ideal application for cloud computing. Most of the nasties originate out there anyway, so keep all that junk off your circuit entirely. Roger Wright ___ When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't nothin' like it! On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: I've used Google's Postini mail filtering service very successfully in two environments. I found it cumbersome to setup initially but very effective and hands-off once configured. Users receive daily quarantine summaries and can easily tweak their individual approved/blocked lists. I selected inbound filtering only for just $3 per user per year (!) and Google has continued to renew at that rate for our church. The other company is no longer in business. Roger Wright ___ When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't nothin' like it! On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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Barracuda does have a VM option now that would eliminate the (Barracuda) hardware issue. I don't know anything about pricing, however. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote: Good things about the barracuda that standout are no per user licensing and easy to setup for multiple domains with or without ldap lookups. Since looking at other options, I really like the ease and flexibility of how it handles domains. One bad thing that negates some of its price savings: While software support is included in your yearly licensing, hardware support is not. You have to purchase their instant replacement service in addition and it costs about the same as a yearly software/energize updates. We have a client that had a mirror fail near the end of a three year license on a barracuda 400. Options from barracuda: Pay $700 and ship it to them. Turnaround of at least 3 weeks. Other option: Pay $3k for the past three years of instant replacement coverage and they will overnight a box. So, you can get a 400 box with five years of updates bundled with it for $8k, but you need to also pay $4k if you want barracuda to help with a hardware failure. Bill N Parr wrote: +1 on the Barracuda, been using one for 4-5 years now. Using global policy and once I had the spam and ham trained it was set and forget. -- *From:* Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.comjholmg...@xlhealth.com] *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:52 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Spam appliances/services Barracuda. No per-user fees, very configurable and awesome tech support. I had them at %previousjob% and am trying like heck to get them in at %currentjob%. They’ll even send you a 90 eval unit for free if you want to try it out. Jim Holmgren Manager of Server Engineering XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org tmil...@hnncsb.org] *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member of as permitted by law is prohibited and punishable under Federal Law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este mensaje incluyendo cualquier anejo es para uso exclusivo del (los) destinatario (s) y puede incluir información confidencial y/o información de salud protegida. La Ley Federal (HIPAA) establece que el destinatario está obligado a mantener la información confidencial y sequra. HIPAA prohíbe y castiga cualquier divulgación a terceras personas sin autorización del
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Setting up new VMs to just add domains is not an easy solution. The Barracuda 400 can host 500 domains and i could point each of those domains to a different downstream mail server anywhere on the interwebs. I could have some domains doing ldap lookups to verify users, others just sending mail to the mail server to sort out legit users...while sending email quarantine lists email to any of those domains I wanted. And since you don't have per user licensing, the more domains the merrier. The barracuda does have issues for sure, but domain setups are really nice. Bill Jeff Brown wrote: We are running Brightmail VM, licensed for x number of users. we are in process of creating 3 separate email domains, same number of users. Symantec told us we could run 3 VM's no additional license/fees because number of clients we are licensed for is not changing. the filter does a pretty good job here too. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote: Good things about the barracuda that standout are no per user licensing and easy to setup for multiple domains with or without ldap lookups. Since looking at other options, I really like the ease and flexibility of how it handles domains. One bad thing that negates some of its price savings: While software support is included in your yearly licensing, hardware support is not. You have to purchase their instant replacement service in addition and it costs about the same as a yearly software/energize updates. We have a client that had a mirror fail near the end of a three year license on a barracuda 400. Options from barracuda: Pay $700 and ship it to them. Turnaround of at least 3 weeks. Other option: Pay $3k for the past three years of instant replacement coverage and they will overnight a box. So, you can get a 400 box with five years of updates bundled with it for $8k, but you need to also pay $4k if you want barracuda to help with a hardware failure. Bill N Parr wrote: +1 on the Barracuda, been using one for 4-5 years now. Using global policy and once I had the spam and ham trained it was set and forget. *From:* Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com] *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:52 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Spam appliances/services Barracuda. No per-user fees, very configurable and awesome tech support. I had them at %previousjob% and am trying like heck to get them in at %currentjob%. They’ll even send you a 90 eval unit for free if you want to try it out. Jim Holmgren Manager of Server Engineering XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com http://www.xlhealth.com *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint
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Got pricing: $1,000 one time fee for VM. You actually have per user licensing with the VM. $160 per 100 users for a year. N Parr wrote: I ran in to the replacement issue on my web filter, turned out it was much cheaper to just buy a new box. I wonder how they price the virtual spam appliance. They obviously can't sell any hardware warranties with it. *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:53 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Spam appliances/services Good things about the barracuda that standout are no per user licensing and easy to setup for multiple domains with or without ldap lookups. Since looking at other options, I really like the ease and flexibility of how it handles domains. One bad thing that negates some of its price savings: While software support is included in your yearly licensing, hardware support is not. You have to purchase their instant replacement service in addition and it costs about the same as a yearly software/energize updates. We have a client that had a mirror fail near the end of a three year license on a barracuda 400. Options from barracuda: Pay $700 and ship it to them. Turnaround of at least 3 weeks. Other option: Pay $3k for the past three years of instant replacement coverage and they will overnight a box. So, you can get a 400 box with five years of updates bundled with it for $8k, but you need to also pay $4k if you want barracuda to help with a hardware failure. Bill N Parr wrote: !--[if mso 9]-- !--[endif]-- +1 on the Barracuda, been using one for 4-5 years now. Using global policy and once I had the spam and ham trained it was set and forget. *From:* Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com] *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:52 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Spam appliances/services Barracuda. No per-user fees, very configurable and awesome tech support. I had them at %previousjob% and am trying like heck to get them in at %currentjob%. They'll even send you a 90 eval unit for free if you want to try it out. Jim Holmgren Manager of Server Engineering XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member of as permitted by law is prohibited and punishable under
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On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, email filtering is the ideal application for cloud computing. Most of the nasties originate out there anyway, so keep all that junk off your circuit entirely. +1 First-pass email filtering is one of the few things I like to put in the cloud. I don't even get many connection attempts to our real mail intake, and anything not from the service's IP range is easily dropped. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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That's not to bad, and it would be great to have it virtualized and not have to worry about hardware failing and being down a day waiting for replacement. From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam appliances/services Got pricing: $1,000 one time fee for VM. You actually have per user licensing with the VM. $160 per 100 users for a year. N Parr wrote: I ran in to the replacement issue on my web filter, turned out it was much cheaper to just buy a new box. I wonder how they price the virtual spam appliance. They obviously can't sell any hardware warranties with it. From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam appliances/services Good things about the barracuda that standout are no per user licensing and easy to setup for multiple domains with or without ldap lookups. Since looking at other options, I really like the ease and flexibility of how it handles domains. One bad thing that negates some of its price savings: While software support is included in your yearly licensing, hardware support is not. You have to purchase their instant replacement service in addition and it costs about the same as a yearly software/energize updates. We have a client that had a mirror fail near the end of a three year license on a barracuda 400. Options from barracuda: Pay $700 and ship it to them. Turnaround of at least 3 weeks. Other option: Pay $3k for the past three years of instant replacement coverage and they will overnight a box. So, you can get a 400 box with five years of updates bundled with it for $8k, but you need to also pay $4k if you want barracuda to help with a hardware failure. Bill N Parr wrote: !--[if mso 9]-- !--[endif]-- +1 on the Barracuda, been using one for 4-5 years now. Using global policy and once I had the spam and ham trained it was set and forget. From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Spam appliances/services Barracuda. No per-user fees, very configurable and awesome tech support. I had them at %previousjob% and am trying like heck to get them in at %currentjob%. They'll even send you a 90 eval unit for free if you want to try it out. Jim Holmgren Manager of Server Engineering XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Spam appliances/services Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
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+1 for IronPort. From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam appliances/services We had Barracuda, and loved it. When it came time to replace due to age, we looked around again. This time we went with Ironport. We like it even better. The big difference (to us) is the reputation filter simply drops a large part of spam and malware laden email at the network connection level. So that traffic doesn't consume any bandwidth. I believe the levels of spam getting through is marginally better. But not enough to actually be a negative against Barracuda. I have no concerns about recommending either. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter. Google Message Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us. I've heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from Messaging Architects. Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is out. Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add? I would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to constantly tweak it. Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and unblock a message if they want. Thanks, Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Kern Health Systems Confidentiality Statement: This email and any attachments are legally privileged and can contain business proprietary and/or confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. The authorized recipient of this information is prohibited from disclosing this information to any other party unless required to do so by law or regulation and is required to destroy the information after its stated need has been fulfilled. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of these documents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately and arrange for the return or destruction of these documents. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
