RE: Um, WTF?

[David Lum]

Thanks Jeff for posting this, much appreciated.

Dave

From: Jeff Bunting [mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Um, WTF?

Here's another take on this incident:

http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2010/11/china-hijacks-15-of-internet-traffic/

Jeff
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:46 AM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china

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Re: Um, WTF?

[Jeff Bunting]

Here's another take on this incident:

http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2010/11/china-hijacks-15-of-internet-traffic/

Jeff

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:46 AM, David Lum  wrote:

>
> http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china
>
>
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
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Re: Um, WTF?

[Andrew S. Baker]

Size isn't the main factor here.  It's usually a need for redundancy across
multiple sites or circuits.

I worked in a location with <100 users (but ~175 servers) and we used BGP to
manage our site redundancy between two office locations.


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On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  But big boys, right? Not your average SMORG.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's...  I've run BGP in quite a few
> companies depending on the needs...
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries 
> wrote:
>
> yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing tech.
>
> Bill
>
>
> Michael B. Smith wrote:
>
> I’ve never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced
> Cisco courses.
>
>
>
> OSPF and RIP and IGRP – common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.
>
>
>
> You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. J
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Any networking course should cover BGP.
>
>
>
> When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>
> *Sent:* Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> If you’ve never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or
> worked for a telecommunications company – it’s unlikely that you would’ve
> run into BGP or ASNs.
>
>
>
> We all have our areas of expertise. Don’t ask me to set up KMS, for example
> (to reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero
> about it.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ah. I have heard that term I just didn’t connect it.
>
>
>
> Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually
> think I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I’m back to
> “eh, I’m just a n00b…”
>
>
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Border Gateway Protocol
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ok so I’m behind the curve.
>
>
>
> BGP?
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Um, WTF?

[RS]

OU did not just do that!

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> It helps get the sentence out Sooner.
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Andy Shook  wrote:
>
>>  I see they don’t have any commas in Oklahoma.
>>
>>
>>
>> Shook
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:38 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been there done that also, for a company of 100 or so employees. We
>> hosted parts of a major vendors website (it’s amazing how often that happens
>> BTW) and had to have very reliable and redundant communications and server
>> systems.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:49 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Um, WTF?
>>
>>
>>
>> Not always.  I did some work a few years back for a company with multiple
>> T1's, multiple providers and they were only a 1 site, 100 user company.
>> Their business model dictated that they needed multiple paths...  On a 15
>> site dual MPLS WAN, I run BGP as well.  It just depends on the needs.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Michael B. Smith 
>> wrote:
>>
>> But big boys, right? Not your average SMORG.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Um, WTF?
>>
>>
>>
>> To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's...  I've run BGP in quite a few
>> companies depending on the needs...
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries 
>> wrote:
>>
>> yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing
>> tech.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith wrote:
>>
>> I’ve never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced
>> Cisco courses.
>>
>>
>>
>> OSPF and RIP and IGRP – common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.
>>
>>
>>
>> You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. J
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com ]
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>>
>>
>>
>> Any networking course should cover BGP.
>>
>>
>>
>> When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Michael B. Smith 
>> [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>>
>>
>>
>> If you’ve never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or
>> worked for a telecommunications company – it’s unlikely that you would’ve
>> run into BGP or ASNs.
>>
>>
>>
>> We all have our areas of expertise. Don’t ask me to set up KMS, for
>> example (to reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know
>> zero about it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org ]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ah. I have heard that term I just didn’t connect it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually
>> think I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I’m back to
>> “eh, I’m just a n00b…”
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org ]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November

Re: Um, WTF?

[Don Ely]

They were voted out in the recent elections...

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:

>  I see they don’t have any commas in Oklahoma.
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:38 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> I have been there done that also, for a company of 100 or so employees. We
> hosted parts of a major vendors website (it’s amazing how often that happens
> BTW) and had to have very reliable and redundant communications and server
> systems.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:49 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Not always.  I did some work a few years back for a company with multiple
> T1's, multiple providers and they were only a 1 site, 100 user company.
> Their business model dictated that they needed multiple paths...  On a 15
> site dual MPLS WAN, I run BGP as well.  It just depends on the needs.
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
>
> But big boys, right? Not your average SMORG.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's...  I've run BGP in quite a few
> companies depending on the needs...
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries 
> wrote:
>
> yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing tech.
>
> Bill
>
>
> Michael B. Smith wrote:
>
> I’ve never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced
> Cisco courses.
>
>
>
> OSPF and RIP and IGRP – common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.
>
>
>
> You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. J
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Any networking course should cover BGP.
>
>
>
> When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>
> *Sent:* Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> If you’ve never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or
> worked for a telecommunications company – it’s unlikely that you would’ve
> run into BGP or ASNs.
>
>
>
> We all have our areas of expertise. Don’t ask me to set up KMS, for example
> (to reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero
> about it.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ah. I have heard that term I just didn’t connect it.
>
>
>
> Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually
> think I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I’m back to
> “eh, I’m just a n00b…”
>
>
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Border Gateway Protocol
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ok so I’m behind the curve.
>
>
>
> BGP?
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here

Re: Um, WTF?

[Jonathan Link]

It helps get the sentence out Sooner.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Andy Shook  wrote:

>  I see they don’t have any commas in Oklahoma.
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:38 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> I have been there done that also, for a company of 100 or so employees. We
> hosted parts of a major vendors website (it’s amazing how often that happens
> BTW) and had to have very reliable and redundant communications and server
> systems.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:49 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Not always.  I did some work a few years back for a company with multiple
> T1's, multiple providers and they were only a 1 site, 100 user company.
> Their business model dictated that they needed multiple paths...  On a 15
> site dual MPLS WAN, I run BGP as well.  It just depends on the needs.
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
>
> But big boys, right? Not your average SMORG.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's...  I've run BGP in quite a few
> companies depending on the needs...
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries 
> wrote:
>
> yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing tech.
>
> Bill
>
>
> Michael B. Smith wrote:
>
> I’ve never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced
> Cisco courses.
>
>
>
> OSPF and RIP and IGRP – common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.
>
>
>
> You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. J
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Any networking course should cover BGP.
>
>
>
> When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>
> *Sent:* Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> If you’ve never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or
> worked for a telecommunications company – it’s unlikely that you would’ve
> run into BGP or ASNs.
>
>
>
> We all have our areas of expertise. Don’t ask me to set up KMS, for example
> (to reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero
> about it.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ah. I have heard that term I just didn’t connect it.
>
>
>
> Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually
> think I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I’m back to
> “eh, I’m just a n00b…”
>
>
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Border Gateway Protocol
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ok so I’m behind the curve.
>
>
>
> BGP?
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
>

RE: Um, WTF?

[Andy Shook]

I see they don't have any commas in Oklahoma.

Shook

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

I have been there done that also, for a company of 100 or so employees. We 
hosted parts of a major vendors website (it's amazing how often that happens 
BTW) and had to have very reliable and redundant communications and server 
systems.
Tim

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Um, WTF?

Not always.  I did some work a few years back for a company with multiple T1's, 
multiple providers and they were only a 1 site, 100 user company.  Their 
business model dictated that they needed multiple paths...  On a 15 site dual 
MPLS WAN, I run BGP as well.  It just depends on the needs.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
But big boys, right? Not your average SMORG.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com<mailto:don@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Um, WTF?

To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's...  I've run BGP in quite a few companies 
depending on the needs...
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries 
mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>> wrote:
yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing tech.

Bill

Michael B. Smith wrote:
I've never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced Cisco 
courses.

OSPF and RIP and IGRP - common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.

You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Any networking course should cover BGP.

When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.

Cheers
Ken

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

If you've never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or worked 
for a telecommunications company - it's unlikely that you would've run into BGP 
or ASNs.

We all have our areas of expertise. Don't ask me to set up KMS, for example (to 
reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero about it.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ah. I have heard that term I just didn't connect it.

Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually think 
I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I'm back to "eh, I'm 
just a n00b..."

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Border Gateway Protocol
Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org<mailto:Email:ezi...@lifespan.org>
Cell:401-639-3505

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ok so I'm behind the curve.

BGP?




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RE: Um, WTF?

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I have been there done that also, for a company of 100 or so employees. We 
hosted parts of a major vendors website (it's amazing how often that happens 
BTW) and had to have very reliable and redundant communications and server 
systems.
Tim

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Um, WTF?

Not always.  I did some work a few years back for a company with multiple T1's, 
multiple providers and they were only a 1 site, 100 user company.  Their 
business model dictated that they needed multiple paths...  On a 15 site dual 
MPLS WAN, I run BGP as well.  It just depends on the needs.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
But big boys, right? Not your average SMORG.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com<mailto:don@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Um, WTF?

To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's...  I've run BGP in quite a few companies 
depending on the needs...
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries 
mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>> wrote:
yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing tech.

Bill

Michael B. Smith wrote:
I've never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced Cisco 
courses.

OSPF and RIP and IGRP - common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.

You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Any networking course should cover BGP.

When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.

Cheers
Ken

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

If you've never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or worked 
for a telecommunications company - it's unlikely that you would've run into BGP 
or ASNs.

We all have our areas of expertise. Don't ask me to set up KMS, for example (to 
reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero about it.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ah. I have heard that term I just didn't connect it.

Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually think 
I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I'm back to "eh, I'm 
just a n00b..."

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Border Gateway Protocol
Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org<mailto:Email:ezi...@lifespan.org>
Cell:401-639-3505

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ok so I'm behind the curve.

BGP?




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RE: Um, WTF?

[Greg Olson]

BGP is also very helpful in companies with mixed vender gear. For instance we 
use it here as it makes the Junipers and Cisco and Palo Alto devices all play 
together nicely.

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Um, WTF?

Not always.  I did some work a few years back for a company with multiple T1's, 
multiple providers and they were only a 1 site, 100 user company.  Their 
business model dictated that they needed multiple paths...  On a 15 site dual 
MPLS WAN, I run BGP as well.  It just depends on the needs.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
But big boys, right? Not your average SMORG.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com<mailto:don@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Um, WTF?

To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's...  I've run BGP in quite a few companies 
depending on the needs...
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries 
mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>> wrote:
yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing tech.

Bill

Michael B. Smith wrote:
I've never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced Cisco 
courses.

OSPF and RIP and IGRP - common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.

You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Any networking course should cover BGP.

When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.

Cheers
Ken

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

If you've never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or worked 
for a telecommunications company - it's unlikely that you would've run into BGP 
or ASNs.

We all have our areas of expertise. Don't ask me to set up KMS, for example (to 
reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero about it.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ah. I have heard that term I just didn't connect it.

Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually think 
I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I'm back to "eh, I'm 
just a n00b..."

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Border Gateway Protocol
Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org<mailto:Email:ezi...@lifespan.org>
Cell:401-639-3505

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ok so I'm behind the curve.

BGP?




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Re: Um, WTF?

[Don Ely]

Not always.  I did some work a few years back for a company with multiple
T1's, multiple providers and they were only a 1 site, 100 user company.
Their business model dictated that they needed multiple paths...  On a 15
site dual MPLS WAN, I run BGP as well.  It just depends on the needs.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  But big boys, right? Not your average SMORG.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's...  I've run BGP in quite a few
> companies depending on the needs...
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries 
> wrote:
>
> yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing tech.
>
> Bill
>
>
> Michael B. Smith wrote:
>
> I’ve never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced
> Cisco courses.
>
>
>
> OSPF and RIP and IGRP – common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.
>
>
>
> You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. J
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Any networking course should cover BGP.
>
>
>
> When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>
> *Sent:* Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> If you’ve never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or
> worked for a telecommunications company – it’s unlikely that you would’ve
> run into BGP or ASNs.
>
>
>
> We all have our areas of expertise. Don’t ask me to set up KMS, for example
> (to reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero
> about it.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ah. I have heard that term I just didn’t connect it.
>
>
>
> Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually
> think I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I’m back to
> “eh, I’m just a n00b…”
>
>
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Border Gateway Protocol
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ok so I’m behind the curve.
>
>
>
> BGP?
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ---
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RE: Um, WTF?

[Michael B. Smith]

But big boys, right? Not your average SMORG.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Um, WTF?

To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's...  I've run BGP in quite a few companies 
depending on the needs...
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries 
mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>> wrote:
yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing tech.

Bill

Michael B. Smith wrote:
I've never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced Cisco 
courses.

OSPF and RIP and IGRP - common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.

You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Any networking course should cover BGP.

When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.

Cheers
Ken

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

If you've never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or worked 
for a telecommunications company - it's unlikely that you would've run into BGP 
or ASNs.

We all have our areas of expertise. Don't ask me to set up KMS, for example (to 
reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero about it.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ah. I have heard that term I just didn't connect it.

Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually think 
I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I'm back to "eh, I'm 
just a n00b..."

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Border Gateway Protocol
Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org<mailto:Email:ezi...@lifespan.org>
Cell:401-639-3505

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ok so I'm behind the curve.

BGP?




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Re: Um, WTF?

[Don Ely]

To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's...  I've run BGP in quite a few
companies depending on the needs...

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries wrote:

> yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing tech.
>
> Bill
>
> Michael B. Smith wrote:
>
>  I’ve never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced
> Cisco courses.
>
>
>
> OSPF and RIP and IGRP – common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.
>
>
>
> You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. J
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Any networking course should cover BGP.
>
>
>
> When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>
> *Sent:* Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> If you’ve never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or
> worked for a telecommunications company – it’s unlikely that you would’ve
> run into BGP or ASNs.
>
>
>
> We all have our areas of expertise. Don’t ask me to set up KMS, for example
> (to reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero
> about it.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ah. I have heard that term I just didn’t connect it.
>
>
>
> Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually
> think I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I’m back to
> “eh, I’m just a n00b…”
>
>
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Border Gateway Protocol
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ok so I’m behind the curve.
>
>
>
> BGP?
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Um, WTF?

[Ziots, Edward]

Hey don't feel bad, yesterday I just ordered the following books to come
up to speed. 

 

HIPAA Security/Privacy Law Practical Guide

Hacking Exposed Malware 

Hacking Exposed Computer Forensics

Hacking Exposed Web Applications 3

SQL 2008 R2 unleashed

SQL 2008 Administration 

 

On the docket,  ISACA Exam and books for either CISA and/or CRISC and
possibly the information for the C.E.H. 

 

And I still feel stupid some days on the stuff I have long forgotten...

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Um, WTF?

 

yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing
tech.

Bill 

Michael B. Smith wrote: 

I've never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced
Cisco courses.

 

OSPF and RIP and IGRP - common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.

 

You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. J

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

 

Any networking course should cover BGP.

 

When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

 

If you've never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or
worked for a telecommunications company - it's unlikely that you
would've run into BGP or ASNs.

 

We all have our areas of expertise. Don't ask me to set up KMS, for
example (to reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I
know zero about it.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

 

Ah. I have heard that term I just didn't connect it.

 

Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I
actually think I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and
I'm back to "eh, I'm just a n00b..."

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

 

Border Gateway Protocol

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

 

Ok so I'm behind the curve.

 

BGP?

 

 

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Re: Um, WTF?

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:33 AM, David Lum  wrote:
> Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel?

  "The more I learn, the more I realize, the less I know."  (Unknown)

-- Ben

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Re: Um, WTF?

[Bill Humphries]

yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing tech.

Bill

Michael B. Smith wrote:
>
> I've never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced 
> Cisco courses.
>
>  
>
> OSPF and RIP and IGRP -- common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.
>
>  
>
> You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. J
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
>  
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>  
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>  
>
> Any networking course should cover BGP.
>
>  
>
> When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.
>
>  
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>  
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>  
>
> If you've never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or 
> worked for a telecommunications company -- it's unlikely that you 
> would've run into BGP or ASNs.
>
>  
>
> We all have our areas of expertise. Don't ask me to set up KMS, for 
> example (to reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I 
> know zero about it.
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
>  
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>  
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>  
>
> Ah. I have heard that term I just didn't connect it.
>
>  
>
> Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I 
> actually think I do know a lot and then something like this pops up 
> and I'm back to "eh, I'm just a n00b..."
>
>  
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>  
>
> Border Gateway Protocol
>
> Z
>
>  
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>  
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>  
>
> Ok so I'm behind the curve.
>
>  
>
> BGP?
>
>  
>
>  
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
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RE: Um, WTF?

[David Lum]

Sounds right. I had some Cisco classes over 10 years ago and I remember RIP and 
IGRP. I should take another router class to freshen up.

One thing about IT, never a shortage of technology to learn! (says the guy who 
just built a TS gateway/web access server, TS broker, and 4 TS servers...).

Dave

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

I've never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced Cisco 
courses.

OSPF and RIP and IGRP - common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.

You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Any networking course should cover BGP.

When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.

Cheers
Ken

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

If you've never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or worked 
for a telecommunications company - it's unlikely that you would've run into BGP 
or ASNs.

We all have our areas of expertise. Don't ask me to set up KMS, for example (to 
reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero about it.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ah. I have heard that term I just didn't connect it.

Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually think 
I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I'm back to "eh, I'm 
just a n00b..."

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Border Gateway Protocol
Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ok so I'm behind the curve.

BGP?




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Re: Um, WTF?

[Don Ely]

I wouldn't think so.  BGP is almost a course in itself.  I know plenty about
BGP, but there's plenty I don't know about BGP as well...

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:07 AM, James Winzenz wrote:

>   The most recent Network+ covers BGP and the other routing protocols,
> although not in great detail . . .
>
>  *From:* Michael B. Smith 
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:04 AM
>   *To:* NT System Admin Issues 
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
> I’ve never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced
> Cisco courses.
>
>
>
> OSPF and RIP and IGRP – common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.
>
>
>
> You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. J
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Any networking course should cover BGP.
>
>
>
> When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> If you’ve never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or
> worked for a telecommunications company – it’s unlikely that you would’ve
> run into BGP or ASNs.
>
>
>
> We all have our areas of expertise. Don’t ask me to set up KMS, for example
> (to reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero
> about it.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ah. I have heard that term I just didn’t connect it.
>
>
>
> Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually
> think I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I’m back to
> “eh, I’m just a n00b…”
>
>
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Border Gateway Protocol
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ok so I’m behind the curve.
>
>
>
> BGP?
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ---
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Re: Um, WTF?

[Don Ely]

Yeah, I don't recall any basic course covering BGP unless it was at a very
high level. (i.e. BGP = Border Gateway Protocol, the cat's meow to dynamic
routing).  Of course, I don't remember the last time I studied all things
networking...

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  I’ve never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced
> Cisco courses.
>
>
>
> OSPF and RIP and IGRP – common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.
>
>
>
> You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. J
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Any networking course should cover BGP.
>
>
>
> When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> If you’ve never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or
> worked for a telecommunications company – it’s unlikely that you would’ve
> run into BGP or ASNs.
>
>
>
> We all have our areas of expertise. Don’t ask me to set up KMS, for example
> (to reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero
> about it.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ah. I have heard that term I just didn’t connect it.
>
>
>
> Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually
> think I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I’m back to
> “eh, I’m just a n00b…”
>
>
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Border Gateway Protocol
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ok so I’m behind the curve.
>
>
>
> BGP?
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
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Re: Um, WTF?

[James Winzenz]

The most recent Network+ covers BGP and the other routing protocols, although 
not in great detail . . .

From: Michael B. Smith 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

I’ve never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced Cisco 
courses.

 

OSPF and RIP and IGRP – common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.

 

You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. J

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

 

Any networking course should cover BGP.

 

When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

 

If you’ve never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or worked 
for a telecommunications company – it’s unlikely that you would’ve run into BGP 
or ASNs.

 

We all have our areas of expertise. Don’t ask me to set up KMS, for example (to 
reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero about it.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

 

Ah. I have heard that term I just didn’t connect it.

 

Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually think 
I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I’m back to “eh, I’m 
just a n00b…”

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

 

Border Gateway Protocol

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

 

Ok so I’m behind the curve.

 

BGP?

 

 

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RE: Um, WTF?

[Michael B. Smith]

I've never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced Cisco 
courses.

OSPF and RIP and IGRP - common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP.

You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Any networking course should cover BGP.

When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.

Cheers
Ken

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

If you've never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or worked 
for a telecommunications company - it's unlikely that you would've run into BGP 
or ASNs.

We all have our areas of expertise. Don't ask me to set up KMS, for example (to 
reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero about it.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ah. I have heard that term I just didn't connect it.

Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually think 
I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I'm back to "eh, I'm 
just a n00b..."

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Border Gateway Protocol
Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ok so I'm behind the curve.

BGP?




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RE: Um, WTF?

[Ken Schaefer]

Any networking course should cover BGP.

When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc.

Cheers
Ken

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

If you've never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or worked 
for a telecommunications company - it's unlikely that you would've run into BGP 
or ASNs.

We all have our areas of expertise. Don't ask me to set up KMS, for example (to 
reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero about it.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ah. I have heard that term I just didn't connect it.

Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually think 
I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I'm back to "eh, I'm 
just a n00b..."

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Border Gateway Protocol
Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ok so I'm behind the curve.

BGP?




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RE: Um, WTF?

[Michael B. Smith]

If you've never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or worked 
for a telecommunications company - it's unlikely that you would've run into BGP 
or ASNs.

We all have our areas of expertise. Don't ask me to set up KMS, for example (to 
reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero about it.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ah. I have heard that term I just didn't connect it.

Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually think 
I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I'm back to "eh, I'm 
just a n00b..."

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Border Gateway Protocol
Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ok so I'm behind the curve.

BGP?

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Yep. BGP is not secure.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Dude that is old news, its been happening off and on for years by some of the 
major ISP's across the globe.

Why you want to encrypt your sensitive traffic accordingly... (SSL, better yet, 
IPSEC (ESP))

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Um, WTF?

http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764


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Re: Um, WTF?

[Jon Harris]

Are we all not noobs most of the time with something?

Jon

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:33 AM, David Lum  wrote:

>  Ah. I have heard that term I just didn’t connect it.
>
>
>
> Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually
> think I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I’m back to
> “eh, I’m just a n00b…”
>
>
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Border Gateway Protocol
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Ok so I’m behind the curve.
>
>
>
> BGP?
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:20 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Yep. BGP is not secure.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:17 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Dude that is old news, its been happening off and on for years by some of
> the major ISP’s across the globe.
>
>
>
> Why you want to encrypt your sensitive traffic accordingly… (SSL, better
> yet, IPSEC (ESP))
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:47 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Um, WTF?
>
>
>
>
> http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china
>
>
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
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RE: Um, WTF?

[David Lum]

Ah. I have heard that term I just didn't connect it.

Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually think 
I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I'm back to "eh, I'm 
just a n00b..."

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Border Gateway Protocol
Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ok so I'm behind the curve.

BGP?

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Yep. BGP is not secure.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Dude that is old news, its been happening off and on for years by some of the 
major ISP's across the globe.

Why you want to encrypt your sensitive traffic accordingly... (SSL, better yet, 
IPSEC (ESP))

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Um, WTF?

http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764


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RE: Um, WTF?

[Ziots, Edward]

Border Gateway Protocol

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

 

Ok so I'm behind the curve.

 

BGP?

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

 

Yep. BGP is not secure.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

 

Dude that is old news, its been happening off and on for years by some
of the major ISP's across the globe. 

 

Why you want to encrypt your sensitive traffic accordingly... (SSL,
better yet, IPSEC (ESP))

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Um, WTF?

 

http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirecte
d-to-china

 

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
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RE: Um, WTF?

[Michael B. Smith]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gateway_Protocol

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Ok so I'm behind the curve.

BGP?

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Yep. BGP is not secure.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Dude that is old news, its been happening off and on for years by some of the 
major ISP's across the globe.

Why you want to encrypt your sensitive traffic accordingly... (SSL, better yet, 
IPSEC (ESP))

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Um, WTF?

http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china

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Re: Um, WTF?

[James Rankin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gateway_Protocol

On 18 November 2010 16:21, David Lum  wrote:

> Ok so I’m behind the curve.
>
>
>
> BGP?
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:20 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Yep. BGP is not secure.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:17 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF?
>
>
>
> Dude that is old news, its been happening off and on for years by some of
> the major ISP’s across the globe.
>
>
>
> Why you want to encrypt your sensitive traffic accordingly… (SSL, better
> yet, IPSEC (ESP))
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:47 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Um, WTF?
>
>
>
>
> http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china
>
>
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
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RE: Um, WTF?

[David Lum]

Ok so I'm behind the curve.

BGP?

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Yep. BGP is not secure.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Dude that is old news, its been happening off and on for years by some of the 
major ISP's across the globe.

Why you want to encrypt your sensitive traffic accordingly... (SSL, better yet, 
IPSEC (ESP))

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Um, WTF?

http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china

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RE: Um, WTF?

[Michael B. Smith]

Yep. BGP is not secure.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Um, WTF?

Dude that is old news, its been happening off and on for years by some of the 
major ISP's across the globe.

Why you want to encrypt your sensitive traffic accordingly... (SSL, better yet, 
IPSEC (ESP))

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Um, WTF?

http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china

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RE: Um, WTF?

[Ziots, Edward]

Dude that is old news, its been happening off and on for years by some
of the major ISP's across the globe. 

 

Why you want to encrypt your sensitive traffic accordingly... (SSL,
better yet, IPSEC (ESP))

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Um, WTF?

 

http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirecte
d-to-china

 

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Re: Um, WTF?

[Jeff Brown]

Thanks for posting that link.  First I've hear of it.  SHUZMMM!

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:46 AM, David Lum  wrote:

>
> http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china
>
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