Re: Vista login screen
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:33 PM, James Hill james.h...@superamart.com.au wrote: If you enable the GPO option to force the classic shell on, and then rename a file, Explorer will switch to point-to-select/single-click-to-open mode. That's not a bug. That's a feature to discourage you from holding on to the past (classic shell) :) Well, it doesn't switch to the classic shell either, so... :-p What's really neat is if you close and re-open the window, it gets fixed. Until you rename another file. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Vista login screen
On Tue May 11 2010, you wrote: Wow, first Vista at this point? Why not skip and go to Win7? Wasn't an option on the machine I was wanting to order the user -- Optiplex 740. Why they didn't offer Win7, I don't know, but it wasn't an option. Only Vista. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Vista login screen
On Tue May 11 2010, you wrote: Maybe the machine in question has a Vista COA and they don't want to spring for Win7 upgrades. Maybe it's a case of if it ain't broke... Pretty much. :-) As I said in reply to the original question, it wasn't offered in Win7, only various flavors of Vista, and we're on an extremely tight budget this year, only replacing machines that are dying, so I got Vista. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Vista login screen
Get a deal on it? -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vista login screen Wow, first Vista at this point? Why not skip and go to Win7? John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 5/11/2010 10:48 AM Is there any way to go back to the “classic” login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? First Vista computer in the company and I’m a bit unsure of how much I can change. I looked in the “usual” spot (control panel →users) but didn’t see anything about changing the login screen, other than requiring users to hit ctl+alt+del. John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Vista login screen
Not bad... under $800 for a pretty powerful system with a 17 wide-screen LCD. -Original Message- From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:kels...@sctax.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vista login screen Get a deal on it? -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vista login screen Wow, first Vista at this point? Why not skip and go to Win7? John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 5/11/2010 10:48 AM Is there any way to go back to the classic login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? First Vista computer in the company and Im a bit unsure of how much I can change. I looked in the usual spot (control panel ?users) but didnt see anything about changing the login screen, other than requiring users to hit ctl+alt+del. John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Vista login screen
I thought that i read somewhere that if you disable the UAC you can get the regular login screen. Andy0 At 01:48 PM 5/11/2010, you wrote: Is there any way to go back to the $B!H(Jclassic$B!I(J login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? First Vista computer in the company and I$B!G(Jm a bit unsure of how much I can change. I looked in the $B!H(Jusual$B!I(J spot (control panel $B*(Jusers) but didn$B!G(Jt see anything about changing the login screen, other than requiring users to hit ctl+alt+del. John-Aldrich Tile-Tools Andy-Ofalt---863-3449--405-Ag-Admin-Bldg--for more information go to http://ict.cas.psu.edu/Contacts.html -- My little blurb to eat up bandwidth and make your mail box even larger +++ The real problem is that IP, a connectionless protocol, was never developed to be the universal protocol. ATM was developed to serve that purpose and failed. +++ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~inline: a423519.jpginline: a423529.jpg
RE: Vista login screen
Hmm. maybe something to think about, but with this being a non-computer person, I've so far left UAC enabled. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: andy [mailto:afo...@psu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vista login screen I thought that i read somewhere that if you disable the UAC you can get the regular login screen. Andy0 At 01:48 PM 5/11/2010, you wrote: Is there any way to go back to the $B!H(Jclassic$B!I(J login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? First Vista computer in the company and I$B!G(Jm a bit unsure of how much I can change. I looked in the $B!H(Jusual$B!I(J spot (control panel $B*(Jusers) but didn$B!G(Jt see anything about changing the login screen, other than requiring users to hit ctl+alt+del. John-AldrichTile-Tools Andy-Ofalt---863-3449--405-Ag-Admin-Bldg--for more information go to http://ict.cas.psu.edu/Contacts.html%A0 http://ict.cas.psu.edu/Contacts.html -- My little blurb to eat up bandwidth and make your mail box even larger +++ The real problem is that IP, a connectionless protocol, was never developed to be the universal protocol. ATM was developed to serve that purpose and failed. +++ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Vista login screen
Don't spend another second thinking about it. Disabling UAC does nothing of the sort. Carl From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vista login screen Hmm. maybe something to think about, but with this being a non-computer person, I've so far left UAC enabled. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: andy [mailto:afo...@psu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vista login screen I thought that i read somewhere that if you disable the UAC you can get the regular login screen. Andy0 At 01:48 PM 5/11/2010, you wrote: Is there any way to go back to the $B!H(Jclassic$B!I(J login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? First Vista computer in the company and I$B!G(Jm a bit unsure of how much I can change. I looked in the $B!H(Jusual$B!I(J spot (control panel $B*(Jusers) but didn$B!G(Jt see anything about changing the login screen, other than requiring users to hit ctl+alt+del. John-AldrichTile-Tools Andy-Ofalt---863-3449--405-Ag-Admin-Bldg--for more information go to http://ict.cas.psu.edu/Contacts.html%A0 http://ict.cas.psu.edu/Contacts.html -- My little blurb to eat up bandwidth and make your mail box even larger +++ The real problem is that IP, a connectionless protocol, was never developed to be the universal protocol. ATM was developed to serve that purpose and failed. +++ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: Vista login screen
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:27 PM, andy afo...@psu.edu wrote: I thought that i read somewhere that if you disable the UAC you can get the regular login screen. It never did in my testing. Neither did pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL repeatedly. Neither did enabling the Classic logon screen GPO option. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Vista login screen
Bummer. Oh, well... my user is getting used to Vista. She got used to XP after being on Win98 for the longest time. :-) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vista login screen On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:27 PM, andy afo...@psu.edu wrote: I thought that i read somewhere that if you disable the UAC you can get the regular login screen. It never did in my testing. Neither did pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL repeatedly. Neither did enabling the Classic logon screen GPO option. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Vista login screen
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:50 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Bummer. Oh, well... my user is getting used to Vista. She got used to XP after being on Win98 for the longest time. :-) Heh. I sympathize, both with you and the user. Personally I think most of what's been done in Vista is change for the sake of change, and all it really does is increase costs. Yah, individually the costs are small, but times the millions of computer users, that's a lot. All so Microsoft can say Vista looks so shiny and new. But then, lots of people are impressed by shiny and new, so maybe it's a valid biz strategy. Vista has a lot of goofy bugs. Some examples: If you enable the GPO option to force the classic shell on, and then rename a file, Explorer will switch to point-to-select/single-click-to-open mode. When saving a log from Event Viewer, the breadcrumb bar gets filled with garbage characters and doesn't work. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Vista login screen
That's not a bug. That's a feature to discourage you from holding on to the past (classic shell) :) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 13 May 2010 7:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vista login screen If you enable the GPO option to force the classic shell on, and then rename a file, Explorer will switch to point-to-select/single-click-to-open mode. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Vista login screen
Nope, it is what it is. What is so objectionable? Carl From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Vista login screen Is there any way to go back to the “classic” login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? First Vista computer in the company and I’m a bit unsure of how much I can change. I looked in the “usual” spot (control panel →users) but didn’t see anything about changing the login screen, other than requiring users to hit ctl+alt+del. John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: Vista login screen
2010/5/11 John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Is there any way to go back to the “classic” login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? I looked into this a fair bit, and as far as I was able to tell, we're stuck. You can't even change the desktop background or color scheme. It really stinks for computers which are supposed to be color coded and labeled for security reasons. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Vista login screen
I know in 7 you can change the background...let me see what I did. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/11 John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Is there any way to go back to the “classic” login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? I looked into this a fair bit, and as far as I was able to tell, we're stuck. You can't even change the desktop background or color scheme. It really stinks for computers which are supposed to be color coded and labeled for security reasons. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Vista login screen
You can do this sort of voodoo in Win7... http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/03/15/windows-7-to-officially-support-logon-ui-background-customization/ On 11 May 2010 19:01, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: I know in 7 you can change the background...let me see what I did. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/11 John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Is there any way to go back to the “classic” login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? I looked into this a fair bit, and as far as I was able to tell, we're stuck. You can't even change the desktop background or color scheme. It really stinks for computers which are supposed to be color coded and labeled for security reasons. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Vista login screen
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: I know in 7 you can change the background...let me see what I did. I read that was a new feature in Win 7. curmudgeonSo they release an upgrade which removes a feature, then put it back in the next release and call that an upgrade too. And charge for both. Nice work, if you can get it./curmudgeon -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Vista login screen
I dunno about the login screen color, but I know you can change the desktop background. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vista login screen You can do this sort of voodoo in Win7... http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/03/15/windows-7-to-officially-support-logo n-ui-background-customization/ On 11 May 2010 19:01, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: I know in 7 you can change the background...let me see what I did. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/11 John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Is there any way to go back to the classic login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? I looked into this a fair bit, and as far as I was able to tell, we're stuck. You can't even change the desktop background or color scheme. It really stinks for computers which are supposed to be color coded and labeled for security reasons. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: Vista login screen
Wow, first Vista at this point? Why not skip and go to Win7? John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 5/11/2010 10:48 AM Is there any way to go back to the “classic” login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? First Vista computer in the company and I’m a bit unsure of how much I can change. I looked in the “usual” spot (control panel →users) but didn’t see anything about changing the login screen, other than requiring users to hit ctl+alt+del. John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Vista login screen
Maybe the machine in question has a Vista COA and they don't want to spring for Win7 upgrades. Maybe it's a case of if it ain't broke... On 5/11/2010 12:52 PM, Joseph Heaton wrote: Wow, first Vista at this point? Why not skip and go to Win7? -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Vista login screen
+1 Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vista login screen Wow, first Vista at this point? Why not skip and go to Win7? John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 5/11/2010 10:48 AM Is there any way to go back to the classic login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? First Vista computer in the company and Im a bit unsure of how much I can change. I looked in the usual spot (control panel ?users) but didnt see anything about changing the login screen, other than requiring users to hit ctl+alt+del. John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
