Re: backup question... and Symantec CPS
Full weekly on the weekend on tapes that are rotated once a month a full monthly run that becomes a permanent tape at our off-site storage. Incremental dailies except for the *nix stuff that I have to use Differential/Modified Time on for them to work properly (that includes the stupid mac server stuff). Exchange is a full every day. Haven't used CPS. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.comwrote: Out of curiosity… Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis, or monthly basis? If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an incremental or differential backup? Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from Symantec/Backup Exec? If so, for what functionality? Does it work as expected? Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec things IMHO). Just wondering what others are doing out there…. Thanks mail2web LIVE – Free email based on Microsoft(R) Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS
Backup Schedule and Retention: Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Week 1 Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Weekly Week 2 Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Weekly Week 3 Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Weekly Week 4 Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Monthly Full Backup Full Backup Differential Backup Daily backups will have a retention period of 2 weeks. Weekly backups will have a retention period of 4 weeks. Monthly backups will have a retention period of 52 weeks. The Monthly backup is to happen on the last Saturday of every month and will replace the Weekly backup for that week. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: backup question... and Symantec CPS Full weekly on the weekend on tapes that are rotated once a month a full monthly run that becomes a permanent tape at our off-site storage. Incremental dailies except for the *nix stuff that I have to use Differential/Modified Time on for them to work properly (that includes the stupid mac server stuff). Exchange is a full every day. Haven't used CPS. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote: Out of curiosity... Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis, or monthly basis? If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an incremental or differential backup? Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from Symantec/Backup Exec? If so, for what functionality? Does it work as expected? Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec things IMHO). Just wondering what others are doing out there Thanks mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft(r) Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~att3ffa6.gifatt3ffb6.gifatt3ffb7.gif
RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS
We run full backups daily. ___ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: backup question... and Symantec CPS Out of curiosity... Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis, or monthly basis? If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an incremental or differential backup? Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from Symantec/Backup Exec? If so, for what functionality? Does it work as expected? Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec things IMHO). Just wondering what others are doing out there Thanks mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft(r) Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS
I do FULL backups each night if I can. One server is too large so I do one full Monday night (I change my tapes on Monday morning to coincide with the work weeks) and Tues thru Sun I do Differentials, so I only need , in theory, 2 tapes, to do a full restore of that server. This way, if a server dies on a Thursday, I just restore Monday night and Wednesday night , and ive lost, at most, 24 hours of data. That week's tapes have a retention period of 4 weeks. I also do B2D, following the same thing, except they are retained for 2 weeks since I back up the B2D to tape once a week. From: Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) [mailto:joe.haral...@ge.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS Backup Schedule and Retention: Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Week 1 Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Weekly Week 2 Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Weekly Week 3 Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Weekly Week 4 Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Daily Monthly Full BackupFull Backup Differential Backup Daily backups will have a retention period of 2 weeks. Weekly backups will have a retention period of 4 weeks. Monthly backups will have a retention period of 52 weeks. The Monthly backup is to happen on the last Saturday of every month and will replace the Weekly backup for that week. _ From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: backup question... and Symantec CPS Full weekly on the weekend on tapes that are rotated once a month a full monthly run that becomes a permanent tape at our off-site storage. Incremental dailies except for the *nix stuff that I have to use Differential/Modified Time on for them to work properly (that includes the stupid mac server stuff). Exchange is a full every day. Haven't used CPS. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote: Out of curiosity. Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis, or monthly basis? If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an incremental or differential backup? Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from Symantec/Backup Exec? If so, for what functionality? Does it work as expected? Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec things IMHO). Just wondering what others are doing out there.. Thanks mail2web LIVE - Free email based on MicrosoftR Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.gifimage002.gifimage003.gif
RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS
Full daily, rotating 5 disks Monday through Friday. Last business Day of the month the daily disk is replaced by a monthly disk which is retained for 12 months. Last Business day of the year an annual disk replaces the normally scheduled disk and is retained indefinitely. We are currently backing up around 50 GB using Iomega REV disks and Retrospect. -Original Message- From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS We run full backups daily. ___ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: backup question... and Symantec CPS Out of curiosity... Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis, or monthly basis? If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an incremental or differential backup? Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from Symantec/Backup Exec? If so, for what functionality? Does it work as expected? Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec things IMHO). Just wondering what others are doing out there Thanks mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft(r) Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS
Appreciate the feedback from everyone... I was hoping someone out there is using CPS, lol. Ah well. I too run full backups at the end of each week. What bugs me is, I know that most of the data that is backed up every Friday in the full backup has NOT changed since the previous full backup. Which means we end up having a lot of duplicate data on our tapes... Any thoughts on an easy way to combat this? For example, if on a Friday my full backup is 1TB, and of that 500GB hasn't changed ONE BIT since last Friday, it kinda sucks that I still end up backing up that data again and again and again each week... I was under the assumption CPS would address that kind of thing. ? -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: backup question... and Symantec CPS Out of curiosity... Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis, or monthly basis? If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an incremental or differential backup? Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from Symantec/Backup Exec? If so, for what functionality? Does it work as expected? Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec things IMHO). Just wondering what others are doing out there Thanks mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft(r) Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: backup question... and Symantec CPS
Why not just do incremental backups instead of full? On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:40 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.comwrote: Appreciate the feedback from everyone... I was hoping someone out there is using CPS, lol. Ah well. I too run full backups at the end of each week. What bugs me is, I know that most of the data that is backed up every Friday in the full backup has NOT changed since the previous full backup. Which means we end up having a lot of duplicate data on our tapes... Any thoughts on an easy way to combat this? For example, if on a Friday my full backup is 1TB, and of that 500GB hasn't changed ONE BIT since last Friday, it kinda sucks that I still end up backing up that data again and again and again each week... I was under the assumption CPS would address that kind of thing. ? -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: backup question... and Symantec CPS Out of curiosity... Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis, or monthly basis? If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an incremental or differential backup? Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from Symantec/Backup Exec? If so, for what functionality? Does it work as expected? Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec things IMHO). Just wondering what others are doing out there Thanks mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft(r) Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: backup question... and Symantec CPS
I just dont like the idea of carrying that many incrementals around between full backups.:( Original Message: - From: Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:45:14 -0600 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: backup question... and Symantec CPS Why not just do incremental backups instead of full? On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:40 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.comwrote: Appreciate the feedback from everyone... I was hoping someone out there is using CPS, lol. Ah well. I too run full backups at the end of each week. What bugs me is, I know that most of the data that is backed up every Friday in the full backup has NOT changed since the previous full backup. Which means we end up having a lot of duplicate data on our tapes... Any thoughts on an easy way to combat this? For example, if on a Friday my full backup is 1TB, and of that 500GB hasn't changed ONE BIT since last Friday, it kinda sucks that I still end up backing up that data again and again and again each week... I was under the assumption CPS would address that kind of thing. ? -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: backup question... and Symantec CPS Out of curiosity... Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis, or monthly basis? If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an incremental or differential backup? Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from Symantec/Backup Exec? If so, for what functionality? Does it work as expected? Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec things IMHO). Just wondering what others are doing out there Thanks mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft(r) Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS
We had it somewhat setup years ago... but then we retired that server and never got around to setting it back up again. ___ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS Appreciate the feedback from everyone... I was hoping someone out there is using CPS, lol. Ah well. I too run full backups at the end of each week. What bugs me is, I know that most of the data that is backed up every Friday in the full backup has NOT changed since the previous full backup. Which means we end up having a lot of duplicate data on our tapes... Any thoughts on an easy way to combat this? For example, if on a Friday my full backup is 1TB, and of that 500GB hasn't changed ONE BIT since last Friday, it kinda sucks that I still end up backing up that data again and again and again each week... I was under the assumption CPS would address that kind of thing. ? -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: backup question... and Symantec CPS Out of curiosity... Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis, or monthly basis? If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an incremental or differential backup? Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from Symantec/Backup Exec? If so, for what functionality? Does it work as expected? Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec things IMHO). Just wondering what others are doing out there Thanks mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft(r) Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
