RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?

2011-05-13 Thread Sam Cayze 
For what its worth, I know with dell you can still put any warranty you want
on refurbished and off lease machines.  Support doesn't treat them any
diffrrently. So if you ever have an issue, the parts still get replaced.

I'd be surprised if the same didn't hold true for IBM.

Do I do it? No.  I'm frugal as heck, but I still want to order the machines
exactly the way I want them with, matching specs across the board.
On May 13, 2011 10:59 AM, "Guyer, Don"  wrote:
> My bad, I had a T61, not a T3don't know why I came up with that
> number.
>
> :)
>
> Don Guyer
> Windows Systems Engineer
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
> Enterprise Technology Group
> Fiserv
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> www.fiserv.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:13 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?
>
> I resemble that remark, my day to day machine at home is still a
> t42...it just works :-)
>
> They just finally pried my last t43 from my hands at work early this
> year.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 7:49 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?
>
> Yeah, I just finally gave up my almost 7 year-old T40 for a new T410
> with i7. You couldn't kill that T40. I'm also using some thinkpads as
> htpc machines in the living room and bedroom for hulu and netflix
> streaming. Clients thought their T60's were too old. ha!
>
> Bill
>
> Guyer, Don wrote:
>> Same.
>>
>> The T3 (IIRC, it was a 3) laptop I had was 2 years old when I received
>
>> it and I had it for another 3 years. Still ran solid and the only time
>
>> I had to wipe it was when I killed XP to go to Win7.
>>
>> Don Guyer
>> Windows Systems Engineer
>> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise
>> Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com
>> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>> Fax: 610-233-0404
>> www.fiserv.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:00 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?
>>
>> I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple
>> older machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the
>> hardware, other than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4
>> instead of the latest multi-core CPU, etc.) Lenovo/IBM have a
>> reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is probably
>> mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying for
>> that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that
>> will last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you
>> could do a lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up
>> paying a good premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC.
>> You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get
>> IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price.
>> Off-lease
>> stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a
>> good value.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops?
>>
>> Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems? I'm a huge
>> fan
>>
>> of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops. I'm RMAing a new
>> i7
>>
>> quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple
> ways.
>>
>> Thanks for any input.
>>
>> Bill
>>
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Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?

2011-05-13 Thread Cameron 
Actually, there is a good reason to go 'off-lease' ...depending of course...
One place had a mix'o'crap (VERY old crap) and they would not let me refresh
everything, so I found a good deal on off-lease and bought about 250 of them
(all identical models). Since they were the same, ghosting them was a
snap...no fuss, no muss...1 image required and I had 10 or so sitting on the
shelf pre-imaged and ready to go in case of any failures (which there were
almost none).



On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Guyer, Don  wrote:

> My bad, I had a T61, not a T3don't know why I came up with that
> number.
>
> :)
>
> Don Guyer
> Windows Systems Engineer
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
> Enterprise Technology Group
> Fiserv
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> www.fiserv.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
>  From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:13 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?
>
> I resemble that remark, my day to day machine at home is still a
> t42...it just works :-)
>
> They just finally pried my last t43 from my hands at work early this
> year.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 7:49 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?
>
> Yeah,  I just finally gave up my almost 7 year-old T40 for a new T410
> with i7.  You couldn't kill that T40.  I'm also using some thinkpads as
> htpc machines in the living room and bedroom for hulu and netflix
> streaming.  Clients thought their T60's were too old.  ha!
>
> Bill
>
> Guyer, Don wrote:
> > Same.
> >
> > The T3 (IIRC, it was a 3) laptop I had was 2 years old when I received
>
> > it and I had it for another 3 years. Still ran solid and the only time
>
> > I had to wipe it was when I killed XP to go to Win7.
> >
> > Don Guyer
> > Windows Systems Engineer
> > RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise
> > Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com
> > Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> > Fax: 610-233-0404
> > www.fiserv.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:00 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?
> >
> > I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple
> > older machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the
> > hardware, other than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4
> > instead of the latest multi-core CPU, etc.) Lenovo/IBM have a
> > reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is probably
> > mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying for
> > that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that
> > will last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you
> > could do a lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up
> > paying a good premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC.
> > You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get
> > IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price.
> > Off-lease
> > stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a
> > good value.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops?
> >
> > Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems?  I'm a huge
> > fan
> >
> > of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops.  I'm RMAing a new
> > i7
> >
> > quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple
> ways.
> >
> > Thanks for any input.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
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RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?

2011-05-13 Thread Guyer, Don 
My bad, I had a T61, not a T3don't know why I came up with that
number.

:)

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com


-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?

I resemble that remark, my day to day machine at home is still a
t42...it just works :-)

They just finally pried my last t43 from my hands at work early this
year.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 7:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?

Yeah,  I just finally gave up my almost 7 year-old T40 for a new T410
with i7.  You couldn't kill that T40.  I'm also using some thinkpads as
htpc machines in the living room and bedroom for hulu and netflix
streaming.  Clients thought their T60's were too old.  ha!

Bill

Guyer, Don wrote:
> Same.
>
> The T3 (IIRC, it was a 3) laptop I had was 2 years old when I received

> it and I had it for another 3 years. Still ran solid and the only time

> I had to wipe it was when I killed XP to go to Win7.
>
> Don Guyer
> Windows Systems Engineer
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise 
> Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> www.fiserv.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:00 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?
>
> I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple 
> older machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the 
> hardware, other than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 
> instead of the latest multi-core CPU, etc.) Lenovo/IBM have a 
> reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is probably 
> mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying for 
> that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that 
> will last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you 
> could do a lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up 
> paying a good premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC.
> You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get 
> IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price.
> Off-lease
> stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a 
> good value.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops?
>
> Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems?  I'm a huge 
> fan
>
> of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops.  I'm RMAing a new 
> i7
>
> quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple
ways.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Bill
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ---
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RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?

2011-05-13 Thread Free, Bob 
I resemble that remark, my day to day machine at home is still a t42...it just 
works :-)

They just finally pried my last t43 from my hands at work early this year.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 7:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?

Yeah,  I just finally gave up my almost 7 year-old T40 for a new T410 with i7.  
You couldn't kill that T40.  I'm also using some thinkpads as htpc machines in 
the living room and bedroom for hulu and netflix streaming.  Clients thought 
their T60's were too old.  ha!

Bill

Guyer, Don wrote:
> Same.
>
> The T3 (IIRC, it was a 3) laptop I had was 2 years old when I received 
> it and I had it for another 3 years. Still ran solid and the only time 
> I had to wipe it was when I killed XP to go to Win7.
>
> Don Guyer
> Windows Systems Engineer
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise 
> Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> www.fiserv.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:00 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?
>
> I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple 
> older machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the 
> hardware, other than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 
> instead of the latest multi-core CPU, etc.) Lenovo/IBM have a 
> reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is probably 
> mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying for 
> that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that 
> will last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you 
> could do a lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up 
> paying a good premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC.
> You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get 
> IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price.
> Off-lease
> stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a 
> good value.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops?
>
> Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems?  I'm a huge 
> fan
>
> of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops.  I'm RMAing a new 
> i7
>
> quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Bill
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ---
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RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?

2011-05-13 Thread John Aldrich 
Well, my point was that "off-lease" stuff typically still has a LOT of life
left in it, for a fraction of the price of brand new. :D But I see your
point. Just pointing out that anyone that is "budget conscious" might want
to consider it. Of course, if you don't care about budget and just want to
get something rock-solid (or as close as you can get) then buying a new
IBM/Lenovo PC would definitely be something to consider.




-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?

This will be for one of the owner's of the client business, so we will 
be going for bad ass, not refurb. 

I'm not a fan of buying refurb for business.  I'd rather buy new and 
keep for as long as possible.  Client's would rather pay good money for 
a long-term and reliable machine, rather than pay us to keep an older 
machine productive.

Bill

John Aldrich wrote:
> I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple
older
> machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the hardware, other
> than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 instead of the latest
> multi-core CPU, etc.) 
> Lenovo/IBM have a reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think
is
> probably mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying
> for that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that
will
> last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you could do a
> lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up paying a good
> premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC.
> You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get
> IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price. Off-lease
> stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a good
> value.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops?
>
> Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems?  I'm a huge fan 
> of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops.  I'm RMAing a new i7 
> quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Bill
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
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Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?

2011-05-13 Thread Bill Humphries 
This will be for one of the owner's of the client business, so we will 
be going for bad ass, not refurb. 

I'm not a fan of buying refurb for business.  I'd rather buy new and 
keep for as long as possible.  Client's would rather pay good money for 
a long-term and reliable machine, rather than pay us to keep an older 
machine productive.


Bill

John Aldrich wrote:

I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple older
machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the hardware, other
than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 instead of the latest
multi-core CPU, etc.) 
Lenovo/IBM have a reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is

probably mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying
for that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that will
last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you could do a
lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up paying a good
premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC.
You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get
IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price. Off-lease
stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a good
value.



-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops?

Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems?  I'm a huge fan 
of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops.  I'm RMAing a new i7 
quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways.


Thanks for any input.

Bill

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Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?

2011-05-13 Thread Bill Humphries 
Yeah,  I just finally gave up my almost 7 year-old T40 for a new T410 
with i7.  You couldn't kill that T40.  I'm also using some thinkpads as 
htpc machines in the living room and bedroom for hulu and netflix 
streaming.  Clients thought their T60's were too old.  ha!


Bill

Guyer, Don wrote:

Same.

The T3 (IIRC, it was a 3) laptop I had was 2 years old when I received
it and I had it for another 3 years. Still ran solid and the only time I
had to wipe it was when I killed XP to go to Win7.

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
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-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:00 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?

I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple
older
machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the hardware, other
than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 instead of the
latest
multi-core CPU, etc.) 
Lenovo/IBM have a reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I

think is
probably mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely
paying
for that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that
will
last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you could do
a
lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up paying a good
premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC.
You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get
IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price.
Off-lease
stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a
good
value.



-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops?

Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems?  I'm a huge fan

of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops.  I'm RMAing a new i7

quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways.

Thanks for any input.

Bill

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RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?

2011-05-13 Thread Guyer, Don 
Same.

The T3 (IIRC, it was a 3) laptop I had was 2 years old when I received
it and I had it for another 3 years. Still ran solid and the only time I
had to wipe it was when I killed XP to go to Win7.

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?

I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple
older
machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the hardware, other
than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 instead of the
latest
multi-core CPU, etc.) 
Lenovo/IBM have a reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I
think is
probably mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely
paying
for that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that
will
last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you could do
a
lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up paying a good
premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC.
You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get
IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price.
Off-lease
stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a
good
value.



-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops?

Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems?  I'm a huge fan

of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops.  I'm RMAing a new i7

quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways.

Thanks for any input.

Bill

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RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?

2011-05-13 Thread John Aldrich 
I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple older
machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the hardware, other
than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 instead of the latest
multi-core CPU, etc.) 
Lenovo/IBM have a reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is
probably mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying
for that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that will
last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you could do a
lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up paying a good
premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC.
You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get
IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price. Off-lease
stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a good
value.



-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops?

Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems?  I'm a huge fan 
of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops.  I'm RMAing a new i7 
quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways.

Thanks for any input.

Bill

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Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?

2011-05-13 Thread Bill Humphries 

Thanks, Don.

Bill

Guyer, Don wrote:

A few coworkers at last gig had their desktops and I never heard any
complaints. Some of them were dual-booting between XP and W2k8 Server.

I had a Lenovo notebook and was extremely satisfied. None of their stuff
is "cheap", but I think worth the extra dough if possible.

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops?

Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems?  I'm a huge fan

of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops.  I'm RMAing a new i7

quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways.

Thanks for any input.

Bill

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Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?

2011-05-13 Thread Cameron 
Most of our desktops here are either IBM or Lenovo and are rock solid. In 3
1/2 years I've only had a couple of power supplies go and usually it's
usually because of the multiple families of dust bunnys that are living in
the machines (they are all in pretty harsh environments). At my last gig
they were ALL IBM's and they suffered very few failures as well.

Bottom line...I like them!

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:

> A few coworkers at last gig had their desktops and I never heard any
> complaints. Some of them were dual-booting between XP and W2k8 Server.
>
> I had a Lenovo notebook and was extremely satisfied. None of their stuff
> is "cheap", but I think worth the extra dough if possible.
>
> Don Guyer
> Windows Systems Engineer
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
> Enterprise Technology Group
> Fiserv
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> www.fiserv.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops?
>
> Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems?  I'm a huge fan
>
> of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops.  I'm RMAing a new i7
>
> quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Bill
>
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RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?

2011-05-13 Thread Guyer, Don 
A few coworkers at last gig had their desktops and I never heard any
complaints. Some of them were dual-booting between XP and W2k8 Server.

I had a Lenovo notebook and was extremely satisfied. None of their stuff
is "cheap", but I think worth the extra dough if possible.

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops?

Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems?  I'm a huge fan

of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops.  I'm RMAing a new i7

quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways.

Thanks for any input.

Bill

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