RE: power options and users
Hibernation and disk settings ARE a system-wide setting, and affect all users. Not sure about the group policy question -Original Message- From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: power options and users Hi all, We are running Netbackup as our backup solution. We know that for performing our backups desktops and laptops should have any kind of hibernation should be disable. Apparently some power options are only changed individually for each user and don't affect the overall machine. I'm logging on as local admin and I'm wondering how I could disable once for all users any possible hibernation, hard drive turning off or something similar. I found this URL: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/itprovistadesktopui/thr ead/04ff23cc-1046-48a4-b56a-20eade03c776/ at the end of the web page you can find they suggest to go to the group policies: computer configuration - Administrative templates - System - Power Management. However my local Windows XP machine (not part of any Windows domain) lacks of the Power Management entry. Am I missing something here? Thanks, Miguel ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: power options and users
I think those are part of the new group policy preferences. You can add them with an update to existing machines. But you need to manage them and apply them with a Vista machine or a 2008 DC. -Original Message- From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: power options and users Hi all, We are running Netbackup as our backup solution. We know that for performing our backups desktops and laptops should have any kind of hibernation should be disable. Apparently some power options are only changed individually for each user and don't affect the overall machine. I'm logging on as local admin and I'm wondering how I could disable once for all users any possible hibernation, hard drive turning off or something similar. I found this URL: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en- US/itprovistadesktopui/thread/04ff23cc-1046-48a4-b56a-20eade03c776/ at the end of the web page you can find they suggest to go to the group policies: computer configuration - Administrative templates - System - Power Management. However my local Windows XP machine (not part of any Windows domain) lacks of the Power Management entry. Am I missing something here? Thanks, Miguel ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: power options and users
Or you can use the EPA GPO template on XP if you don't want to got the GPP route. http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=power_mgt.pr_power_mgt_ez_gpo -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: power options and users I think those are part of the new group policy preferences. You can add them with an update to existing machines. But you need to manage them and apply them with a Vista machine or a 2008 DC. -Original Message- From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: power options and users Hi all, We are running Netbackup as our backup solution. We know that for performing our backups desktops and laptops should have any kind of hibernation should be disable. Apparently some power options are only changed individually for each user and don't affect the overall machine. I'm logging on as local admin and I'm wondering how I could disable once for all users any possible hibernation, hard drive turning off or something similar. I found this URL: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en- US/itprovistadesktopui/thread/04ff23cc-1046-48a4-b56a-20eade03c776/ at the end of the web page you can find they suggest to go to the group policies: computer configuration - Administrative templates - System - Power Management. However my local Windows XP machine (not part of any Windows domain) lacks of the Power Management entry. Am I missing something here? Thanks, Miguel ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: power options and users
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Miguel Gonzalez miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es wrote: Apparently some power options are only changed individually for each user and don't affect the overall machine. From what I've seen, I believe the power options are set on a system-wide basis, but are also stored on a per-user basis. When a user logs on, their user settings get put into effect as the system settings (assuming they have the needed rights/permissions to do so). When a user logs off, the system keeps whatever settings were in effect. So it's kind of a mess. This is for 2000/XP; Vista might be different. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: power options and users
Finally someone reflects what is the real situation. the power management tab exists in the group policy apparently only for Vista. What can we do in XP? Thanks, Miguel --- El jue, 12/2/09, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com escribió: De: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com Asunto: Re: power options and users Para: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Fecha: jueves, 12 febrero, 2009 2:27 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Miguel Gonzalez miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es wrote: Apparently some power options are only changed individually for each user and don't affect the overall machine. From what I've seen, I believe the power options are set on a system-wide basis, but are also stored on a per-user basis. When a user logs on, their user settings get put into effect as the system settings (assuming they have the needed rights/permissions to do so). When a user logs off, the system keeps whatever settings were in effect. So it's kind of a mess. This is for 2000/XP; Vista might be different. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: power options and users
We using the following files, 2 registry imports and one VBScript to handle this type of Power Management manually. The VBScript is a user level change and sets the defaults for new users who log in to the workstation. The disablestandy.reg file will remove the Standby and Hibernate options from the system and the enablestandby.reg will add them back. ;BEGIN FILE disablestandby.reg Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ACPI\Parameters] Attributes=dword:0070 ;END FILE disablestandby.reg ;BEGIN FILE enablestandby.reg Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ACPI\Parameters] Attributes=- ;END FILE enablestandby.reg 'BEGIN FILE nostandbyps.vbs Option Explicit Set WSHShell = WScript.CreateObject(WScript.Shell) Dim WSHShell, n, p, itemtype, mybox p = HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\PowerCfg\CurrentPowerPolicy itemtype = REG_SZ n = 4 WSHShell.RegWrite p, n, itemtype WScript.Echo You must log out for this to take affect. 'END FILE nostandbyps.vbs HTH -Original Message- From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: power options and users Finally someone reflects what is the real situation. the power management tab exists in the group policy apparently only for Vista. What can we do in XP? Thanks, Miguel --- El jue, 12/2/09, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com escribió: De: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com Asunto: Re: power options and users Para: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Fecha: jueves, 12 febrero, 2009 2:27 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Miguel Gonzalez miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es wrote: Apparently some power options are only changed individually for each user and don't affect the overall machine. From what I've seen, I believe the power options are set on a system-wide basis, but are also stored on a per-user basis. When a user logs on, their user settings get put into effect as the system settings (assuming they have the needed rights/permissions to do so). When a user logs off, the system keeps whatever settings were in effect. So it's kind of a mess. This is for 2000/XP; Vista might be different. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: power options and users
So, in your setup you have all local accounts for your desktops and laptops? There is no server storage using used as a Roaming Profile or Redirected Folders? If that's the case, I think the only solution you will find is a client-server backup solution. When the client is running on the desktop, it should (I would think) prevent the machine from going to sleep/hibernate. I don't know anything about Netbackup, so it might not have this option. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:50:41 -0800 Subject: power options and users Hi all, We are running Netbackup as our backup solution. We know that for performing our backups desktops and laptops should have any kind of hibernation should be disable. Apparently some power options are only changed individually for each user and don't affect the overall machine. I'm logging on as local admin and I'm wondering how I could disable once for all users any possible hibernation, hard drive turning off or something similar. I found this URL: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/itprovistadesktopui/thread/04ff23cc-1046-48a4-b56a-20eade03c776/ at the end of the web page you can find they suggest to go to the group policies: computer configuration - Administrative templates - System - Power Management. However my local Windows XP machine (not part of any Windows domain) lacks of the Power Management entry. Am I missing something here? Thanks, Miguel ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: power options and users
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Miguel Gonzalez miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es wrote: Finally someone reflects what is the real situation. the power management tab exists in the group policy apparently only for Vista. What can we do in XP? My understanding is that you are trying to disable the Standby and Hibernation states on Windows XP. I do not believe this is easily possible with features built in to the OS. It may be possible to script something, but I suspect you would have to delve relatively deep into Windows power management internals. There may be third-party products which can do a better job. Another possibility is to avoid doing backups of workstations at all. Use features such as Roaming Profiles, Folder Redirection, and NTFS permissions to make sure all user data is synchronized to a server which is backed up. That's what we do, and it generally works well for us. Everybody is different, of course. If you have lots of non-standard applications, or users have admin rights, this does not work as well. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
