RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?
A few coworkers at last gig had their desktops and I never heard any complaints. Some of them were dual-booting between XP and W2k8 Server. I had a Lenovo notebook and was extremely satisfied. None of their stuff is cheap, but I think worth the extra dough if possible. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops? Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems? I'm a huge fan of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops. I'm RMAing a new i7 quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways. Thanks for any input. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?
Most of our desktops here are either IBM or Lenovo and are rock solid. In 3 1/2 years I've only had a couple of power supplies go and usually it's usually because of the multiple families of dust bunnys that are living in the machines (they are all in pretty harsh environments). At my last gig they were ALL IBM's and they suffered very few failures as well. Bottom line...I like them! On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote: A few coworkers at last gig had their desktops and I never heard any complaints. Some of them were dual-booting between XP and W2k8 Server. I had a Lenovo notebook and was extremely satisfied. None of their stuff is cheap, but I think worth the extra dough if possible. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops? Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems? I'm a huge fan of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops. I'm RMAing a new i7 quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways. Thanks for any input. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?
Thanks, Don. Bill Guyer, Don wrote: A few coworkers at last gig had their desktops and I never heard any complaints. Some of them were dual-booting between XP and W2k8 Server. I had a Lenovo notebook and was extremely satisfied. None of their stuff is cheap, but I think worth the extra dough if possible. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops? Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems? I'm a huge fan of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops. I'm RMAing a new i7 quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways. Thanks for any input. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?
I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple older machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the hardware, other than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 instead of the latest multi-core CPU, etc.) Lenovo/IBM have a reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is probably mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying for that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that will last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you could do a lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up paying a good premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC. You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price. Off-lease stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a good value. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops? Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems? I'm a huge fan of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops. I'm RMAing a new i7 quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways. Thanks for any input. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?
Same. The T3 (IIRC, it was a 3) laptop I had was 2 years old when I received it and I had it for another 3 years. Still ran solid and the only time I had to wipe it was when I killed XP to go to Win7. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops? I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple older machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the hardware, other than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 instead of the latest multi-core CPU, etc.) Lenovo/IBM have a reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is probably mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying for that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that will last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you could do a lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up paying a good premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC. You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price. Off-lease stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a good value. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops? Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems? I'm a huge fan of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops. I'm RMAing a new i7 quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways. Thanks for any input. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?
Yeah, I just finally gave up my almost 7 year-old T40 for a new T410 with i7. You couldn't kill that T40. I'm also using some thinkpads as htpc machines in the living room and bedroom for hulu and netflix streaming. Clients thought their T60's were too old. ha! Bill Guyer, Don wrote: Same. The T3 (IIRC, it was a 3) laptop I had was 2 years old when I received it and I had it for another 3 years. Still ran solid and the only time I had to wipe it was when I killed XP to go to Win7. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops? I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple older machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the hardware, other than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 instead of the latest multi-core CPU, etc.) Lenovo/IBM have a reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is probably mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying for that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that will last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you could do a lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up paying a good premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC. You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price. Off-lease stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a good value. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops? Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems? I'm a huge fan of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops. I'm RMAing a new i7 quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways. Thanks for any input. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?
This will be for one of the owner's of the client business, so we will be going for bad ass, not refurb. I'm not a fan of buying refurb for business. I'd rather buy new and keep for as long as possible. Client's would rather pay good money for a long-term and reliable machine, rather than pay us to keep an older machine productive. Bill John Aldrich wrote: I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple older machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the hardware, other than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 instead of the latest multi-core CPU, etc.) Lenovo/IBM have a reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is probably mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying for that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that will last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you could do a lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up paying a good premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC. You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price. Off-lease stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a good value. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops? Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems? I'm a huge fan of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops. I'm RMAing a new i7 quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways. Thanks for any input. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?
Well, my point was that off-lease stuff typically still has a LOT of life left in it, for a fraction of the price of brand new. :D But I see your point. Just pointing out that anyone that is budget conscious might want to consider it. Of course, if you don't care about budget and just want to get something rock-solid (or as close as you can get) then buying a new IBM/Lenovo PC would definitely be something to consider. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: lenovo workstations/desktops? This will be for one of the owner's of the client business, so we will be going for bad ass, not refurb. I'm not a fan of buying refurb for business. I'd rather buy new and keep for as long as possible. Client's would rather pay good money for a long-term and reliable machine, rather than pay us to keep an older machine productive. Bill John Aldrich wrote: I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple older machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the hardware, other than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 instead of the latest multi-core CPU, etc.) Lenovo/IBM have a reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is probably mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying for that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that will last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you could do a lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up paying a good premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC. You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price. Off-lease stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a good value. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops? Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems? I'm a huge fan of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops. I'm RMAing a new i7 quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways. Thanks for any input. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?
I resemble that remark, my day to day machine at home is still a t42...it just works :-) They just finally pried my last t43 from my hands at work early this year. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 7:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: lenovo workstations/desktops? Yeah, I just finally gave up my almost 7 year-old T40 for a new T410 with i7. You couldn't kill that T40. I'm also using some thinkpads as htpc machines in the living room and bedroom for hulu and netflix streaming. Clients thought their T60's were too old. ha! Bill Guyer, Don wrote: Same. The T3 (IIRC, it was a 3) laptop I had was 2 years old when I received it and I had it for another 3 years. Still ran solid and the only time I had to wipe it was when I killed XP to go to Win7. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops? I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple older machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the hardware, other than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 instead of the latest multi-core CPU, etc.) Lenovo/IBM have a reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is probably mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying for that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that will last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you could do a lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up paying a good premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC. You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price. Off-lease stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a good value. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops? Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems? I'm a huge fan of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops. I'm RMAing a new i7 quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways. Thanks for any input. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?
My bad, I had a T61, not a T3don't know why I came up with that number. :) Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops? I resemble that remark, my day to day machine at home is still a t42...it just works :-) They just finally pried my last t43 from my hands at work early this year. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 7:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: lenovo workstations/desktops? Yeah, I just finally gave up my almost 7 year-old T40 for a new T410 with i7. You couldn't kill that T40. I'm also using some thinkpads as htpc machines in the living room and bedroom for hulu and netflix streaming. Clients thought their T60's were too old. ha! Bill Guyer, Don wrote: Same. The T3 (IIRC, it was a 3) laptop I had was 2 years old when I received it and I had it for another 3 years. Still ran solid and the only time I had to wipe it was when I killed XP to go to Win7. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops? I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple older machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the hardware, other than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 instead of the latest multi-core CPU, etc.) Lenovo/IBM have a reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is probably mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying for that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that will last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you could do a lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up paying a good premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC. You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price. Off-lease stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a good value. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops? Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems? I'm a huge fan of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops. I'm RMAing a new i7 quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways. Thanks for any input. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
Re: lenovo workstations/desktops?
Actually, there is a good reason to go 'off-lease' ...depending of course... One place had a mix'o'crap (VERY old crap) and they would not let me refresh everything, so I found a good deal on off-lease and bought about 250 of them (all identical models). Since they were the same, ghosting them was a snap...no fuss, no muss...1 image required and I had 10 or so sitting on the shelf pre-imaged and ready to go in case of any failures (which there were almost none). On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote: My bad, I had a T61, not a T3don't know why I came up with that number. :) Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops? I resemble that remark, my day to day machine at home is still a t42...it just works :-) They just finally pried my last t43 from my hands at work early this year. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 7:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: lenovo workstations/desktops? Yeah, I just finally gave up my almost 7 year-old T40 for a new T410 with i7. You couldn't kill that T40. I'm also using some thinkpads as htpc machines in the living room and bedroom for hulu and netflix streaming. Clients thought their T60's were too old. ha! Bill Guyer, Don wrote: Same. The T3 (IIRC, it was a 3) laptop I had was 2 years old when I received it and I had it for another 3 years. Still ran solid and the only time I had to wipe it was when I killed XP to go to Win7. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops? I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple older machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the hardware, other than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 instead of the latest multi-core CPU, etc.) Lenovo/IBM have a reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is probably mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying for that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that will last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you could do a lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up paying a good premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC. You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price. Off-lease stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a good value. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops? Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems? I'm a huge fan of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops. I'm RMAing a new i7 quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways. Thanks for any input. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
RE: lenovo workstations/desktops?
For what its worth, I know with dell you can still put any warranty you want on refurbished and off lease machines. Support doesn't treat them any diffrrently. So if you ever have an issue, the parts still get replaced. I'd be surprised if the same didn't hold true for IBM. Do I do it? No. I'm frugal as heck, but I still want to order the machines exactly the way I want them with, matching specs across the board. On May 13, 2011 10:59 AM, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote: My bad, I had a T61, not a T3don't know why I came up with that number. :) Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops? I resemble that remark, my day to day machine at home is still a t42...it just works :-) They just finally pried my last t43 from my hands at work early this year. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 7:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: lenovo workstations/desktops? Yeah, I just finally gave up my almost 7 year-old T40 for a new T410 with i7. You couldn't kill that T40. I'm also using some thinkpads as htpc machines in the living room and bedroom for hulu and netflix streaming. Clients thought their T60's were too old. ha! Bill Guyer, Don wrote: Same. The T3 (IIRC, it was a 3) laptop I had was 2 years old when I received it and I had it for another 3 years. Still ran solid and the only time I had to wipe it was when I killed XP to go to Win7. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: lenovo workstations/desktops? I have *little* experience with Lenovo/IBM machines. We have a couple older machines, and I have to say, I have no problems with the hardware, other than it is a few generations out of date (i.e. P3/P4 instead of the latest multi-core CPU, etc.) Lenovo/IBM have a reputation for being rock-solid hardware, which I think is probably mostly well-deserved. On the other hand, you're definitely paying for that reputation. Still, if you're wanting to buy some hardware that will last for a VERY long time with little maintenance, I think you could do a lot worse than Lenovo/IBM. OTOH, you'll probably end up paying a good premium over, say Dell or some other name-brand PC. You might look at refurbished IBM/Lenovo hardware if you want to get IBM/Lenovo hardware but don't really want to pay the full price. Off-lease stuff like that still has a lot of life left in it and so might be a good value. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo workstations/desktops? Any opinions about Lenovo's desktop/workstation systems? I'm a huge fan of the Thinkpads, but usually purchase HP desktops. I'm RMAing a new i7 quadcore HP Pro 3130 back to CDW for being ridiculous in multiple ways. Thanks for any input. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http