SBS 2003 storage upgrade

2010-11-01 Thread Glen Johnson
This is for our church so budget is really tight right now.
We have a 2003 sbs system, running exchange, quickbooks and a power church app.
Drive d holds the exchange database, all the user file shares and is almost 
full.
Currently the server has one 80gig drive partitioned as C: 20 gig, D: the rest.
Here is my plan to upgrade it.  Do you think it will work or are there 
better/simpler options.
I have a cheapio  IDE raid card and 2 larger drives.
I plan to shutdown the system, install the card and drives, boot and run the 
bios on the card to set up the two new drive as raid 1.
Then boot into windows so that the OS can find the new card and install the 
drivers.
I'll then set all the exchange services to manual or disabled, disable starting 
of the qb and power church software.
Shut down the system and then boot with my copy of UBCD, use one of the tools 
to copy the existing D partition to the new raid 1 array I've just created, 
resizing in the process.
When that is done, reboot the machine into windows, use disk manager to swap 
the existing D drive to the new larger one, make sure the shares are correct 
and then restart exchange, QB and power church.
This would leave C on the original drive, and d on the new larger array.  Not 
my first choice, but the two drives are free, they  but aren't large enough to 
hold C and D and still have much room to grow.

Or second scenario.
Same server, but I also have cheapio sata card and 2 even larger hard drives.
I'd like to clone the entire server to these two larger hard drives, expanding 
the c and d partitions and only end up with two drives in the system.
I know I can use the UBCD to clone and resize the drives, but I'm doubting 
windows would boot from the new controller and drives.
Any ideas or tried and true solutions would be appreciated.
Glen.

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RE: SBS 2003 storage upgrade

2010-11-01 Thread Kennedy, Jim
I vote for plan three, it seems simpler.

Add the new drives and leave the old D drive in place and move user files or 
the exchange stores to that drive. Whichever is the largest. If it is the user 
files just robocopy them over then delete the old ones from the D drive leaving 
the new free space for the exchange stores.

If it is the exchange stores you want to movemake new stores on the new 
drive and move the mailboxes over and delete the old stores after you are done. 
You can schedule the mailbox move at 2 am. It will do it while everyone, 
including you are asleep.

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2003 storage upgrade

This is for our church so budget is really tight right now.
We have a 2003 sbs system, running exchange, quickbooks and a power church app.
Drive d holds the exchange database, all the user file shares and is almost 
full.
Currently the server has one 80gig drive partitioned as C: 20 gig, D: the rest.
Here is my plan to upgrade it.  Do you think it will work or are there 
better/simpler options.
I have a cheapio  IDE raid card and 2 larger drives.
I plan to shutdown the system, install the card and drives, boot and run the 
bios on the card to set up the two new drive as raid 1.
Then boot into windows so that the OS can find the new card and install the 
drivers.
I'll then set all the exchange services to manual or disabled, disable starting 
of the qb and power church software.
Shut down the system and then boot with my copy of UBCD, use one of the tools 
to copy the existing D partition to the new raid 1 array I've just created, 
resizing in the process.
When that is done, reboot the machine into windows, use disk manager to swap 
the existing D drive to the new larger one, make sure the shares are correct 
and then restart exchange, QB and power church.
This would leave C on the original drive, and d on the new larger array.  Not 
my first choice, but the two drives are free, they  but aren't large enough to 
hold C and D and still have much room to grow.

Or second scenario.
Same server, but I also have cheapio sata card and 2 even larger hard drives.
I'd like to clone the entire server to these two larger hard drives, expanding 
the c and d partitions and only end up with two drives in the system.
I know I can use the UBCD to clone and resize the drives, but I'm doubting 
windows would boot from the new controller and drives.
Any ideas or tried and true solutions would be appreciated.
Glen.

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Re: SBS 2003 storage upgrade

2010-11-01 Thread Daniel Rodriguez
On your 2nd scenario, I would install the drivers, first, so when you get
everything transfered Windows will see your card.

On Nov 1, 2010 8:47 AM, Glen Johnson gjohn...@vhcc.edu wrote:

 This is for our church so budget is really tight right now.

We have a 2003 sbs system, running exchange, quickbooks and a power church
app.

Drive d holds the exchange database, all the user file shares and is almost
full.

Currently the server has one 80gig drive partitioned as C: 20 gig, D: the
rest.

Here is my plan to upgrade it.  Do you think it will work or are there
better/simpler options.

I have a cheapio  IDE raid card and 2 larger drives.

I plan to shutdown the system, install the card and drives, boot and run the
bios on the card to set up the two new drive as raid 1.

Then boot into windows so that the OS can find the new card and install the
drivers.

I’ll then set all the exchange services to manual or disabled, disable
starting of the qb and power church software.

Shut down the system and then boot with my copy of UBCD, use one of the
tools to copy the existing D partition to the new raid 1 array I’ve just
created, resizing in the process.

When that is done, reboot the machine into windows, use disk manager to swap
the existing D drive to the new larger one, make sure the shares are correct
and then restart exchange, QB and power church.

This would leave C on the original drive, and d on the new larger array.
Not my first choice, but the two drives are free, they  but aren’t large
enough to hold C and D and still have much room to grow.



Or second scenario.

Same server, but I also have cheapio sata card and 2 even larger hard
drives.

I’d like to clone the entire server to these two larger hard drives,
expanding the c and d partitions and only end up with two drives in the
system.

I know I can use the UBCD to clone and resize the drives, but I’m doubting
windows would boot from the new controller and drives.

Any ideas or tried and true solutions would be appreciated.

Glen.

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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Re: SBS 2003 storage upgrade

2010-11-01 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Glen Johnson gjohn...@vhcc.edu wrote:
 I’ll then set all the exchange services to manual or disabled, disable
 starting of the qb and power church software.

 Shut down the system and then boot with my copy of UBCD, use one of the
 tools to copy the existing D partition to the new raid 1 array I’ve just
 created, resizing in the process.

  As long as all services are stopped, you should be able to do the
file copy from Windows.  Just ROBOCOPY from D:\ to x:\, then use
Device Manager to swap the drive letters.

 I know I can use the UBCD to clone and resize the drives, but I’m doubting
 windows would boot from the new controller and drives.

  There's a way to install and enable additional boot-time drivers, so
you can migrate to a new storage controller.  You have  to do it in
advance of the change.  I know SYSPREP can do it, but that's not what
you want here.  Maybe someone else can chime in on this one.

-- Ben

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Re: SBS 2003 storage upgrade

2010-11-01 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Daniel Rodriguez drod...@gmail.com wrote:
 On your 2nd scenario, I would install the drivers, first, so when you get
 everything transfered Windows will see your card.

  IIRC, you have to do something special to tell Windows to load the
drivers at boot time.  It's not enough to just install them.

-- Ben

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