RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced...
I was under the impression that it included the touch keyboard, just like RT. But it isn't clear from the announcement or the website. The price is basically iPad + Windows Pro. It's higher than I wanted, but I am not surprised. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... This is my take on it: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/29/microsoft-surface-with-windows-8-pro-gets-official-pricing-and-january-2013-availability/ However, I'd be interested in your take on it. Is it priced right? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced...
This is less then I thought it would be. I had it pegged at $1500. With the separate Touch Cover it's still less then I thought it would be. It's essentially an Ultrabook with touch screen. I plan on getting one assuming I am less broke then I am now. On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: This is my take on it: ** ** http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/29/microsoft-surface-with-windows-8-pro-gets-official-pricing-and-january-2013-availability/ ** ** However, I’d be interested in your take on it. Is it priced right? ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced...
It's clear.keyboard is extra. Both versions will both include a Surface pen with Palm Block technology and include the ability to use a Touch Cover or Type Cover (sold separately). Rod Trent http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ http://www.myitforum.com/ myITSMButton http://twitter.com/rodtrent TwitterButton http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent Facebookbutton http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 LinkedInButton From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... I was under the impression that it included the touch keyboard, just like RT. But it isn't clear from the announcement or the website. The price is basically iPad + Windows Pro. It's higher than I wanted, but I am not surprised. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... This is my take on it: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/29/microsoft-surface-with-windows-8 -pro-gets-official-pricing-and-january-2013-availability/ However, I'd be interested in your take on it. Is it priced right? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.pngimage002.pngimage003.pngimage004.png
Re: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced...
Yep, I'll get one for the office as well to demo. Definitely. I think they are trying to be Apple-like in their pricing. Some people equate higher pricing with higher levels of quality and therefore want it more. You slap a $299 price tag on the thing and people will stay away since it is cheap. On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: This is less then I thought it would be. I had it pegged at $1500. With the separate Touch Cover it's still less then I thought it would be. It's essentially an Ultrabook with touch screen. I plan on getting one assuming I am less broke then I am now. On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.comwrote: This is my take on it: ** ** http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/29/microsoft-surface-with-windows-8-pro-gets-official-pricing-and-january-2013-availability/ ** ** However, I’d be interested in your take on it. Is it priced right? ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced...
64 GB model is much higher than the 64 GB iPad 3 (Wifi only). I assumed they were going to go cheaper to steal away Apple business. I'd opt for a full-blown laptop/netbook at that price. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CDCE46.2198B160] From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... This is my take on it: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/29/microsoft-surface-with-windows-8-pro-gets-official-pricing-and-january-2013-availability/ However, I'd be interested in your take on it. Is it priced right? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced...
Leaves the door open for future promotions i.e. keyboard now included for free which they would much prefer to do rather than admit early defeat by reducing the price. The price allows their OEMs to easily undercut them, which helps smooth out any bad feelings over MS competing for the hardware business. And no executive wants to be seen toting around a cheap tablet. Let the rank and file use Acers! Carl From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... It's clear.keyboard is extra. Both versions will both include a Surface pen with Palm Block technology and include the ability to use a Touch Cover or Type Cover (sold separately). Rod Trent http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ http://www.myitforum.com/ myITSMButton http://twitter.com/rodtrent TwitterButton http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent Facebookbutton http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 LinkedInButton From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... I was under the impression that it included the touch keyboard, just like RT. But it isn't clear from the announcement or the website. The price is basically iPad + Windows Pro. It's higher than I wanted, but I am not surprised. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... This is my take on it: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/29/microsoft-surface-with-windows-8 -pro-gets-official-pricing-and-january-2013-availability/ However, I'd be interested in your take on it. Is it priced right? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.pngimage002.pngimage003.pngimage004.png
RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced...
IMHO it is too high. You can get small laptops for from $500 to $900 depending on the requirements. Sure the touch screen is more but you get a lot more connectors with a laptop than what I expect will be on a Surface. Add to that it does not even come with the keyboard and it would be really too expensive. Jon From: rodtr...@myitforum.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:20:19 -0500 This is my take on it: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/29/microsoft-surface-with-windows-8-pro-gets-official-pricing-and-january-2013-availability/ However, I’d be interested in your take on it. Is it priced right? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced...
The screen and the processor drive up the cost. However, Microsoft is touting these as business units. How much processor and screen resolution does one really need to run Office? On the other side, these aren’t meant to compete with the iPad, but rather the MacBook. Even after purchasing the keyboard, the Surface Pro beats the cost of the MacBook by a few thousand. Just saw a report today that, before tax, the latest MacBook will cost around $4000. Sent from Windows Mail From: Jon Harris Sent: November 29, 2012 7:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... IMHO it is too high. You can get small laptops for from $500 to $900 depending on the requirements. Sure the touch screen is more but you get a lot more connectors with a laptop than what I expect will be on a Surface. Add to that it does not even come with the keyboard and it would be really too expensive. Jon From: rodtr...@myitforum.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:20:19 -0500 This is my take on it: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/29/microsoft-surface-with-windows-8-pro-gets-official-pricing-and-january-2013-availability/ However, I’d be interested in your take on it. Is it priced right? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced...
I dunno about that...same i5 procs aren't they? Better graphics on the mac perhaps... Sent from my BlackBird. -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 02:45:51 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... A Macbook Air is $1000-1500 A Macbook Pro is more, but there’s no way a Surface is going to compete with that… Cheers Ken From: rodtr...@myitforum.com [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... The screen and the processor drive up the cost. However, Microsoft is touting these as business units. How much processor and screen resolution does one really need to run Office? On the other side, these aren’t meant to compete with the iPad, but rather the MacBook. Even after purchasing the keyboard, the Surface Pro beats the cost of the MacBook by a few thousand. Just saw a report today that, before tax, the latest MacBook will cost around $4000. Sent from Windows Mail From: Jon Harris Sent: November 29, 2012 7:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... IMHO it is too high. You can get small laptops for from $500 to $900 depending on the requirements. Sure the touch screen is more but you get a lot more connectors with a laptop than what I expect will be on a Surface. Add to that it does not even come with the keyboard and it would be really too expensive. Jon From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:20:19 -0500 This is my take on it: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/29/microsoft-surface-with-windows-8-pro-gets-official-pricing-and-january-2013-availability/ However, I’d be interested in your take on it. Is it priced right? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced...
I agree, Carl. It costs more than I wanted, but less than expected (feared). It will still sell, though. I thought the iPad Mini pricing was too high, and that's still selling. Yes, that's Apple, but there are a few people like that in every camp. Enough to make good sales. As the ecosystem is built up, this will become more palatable to many. I'm personally waiting it out for a bit, though... :) *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker** *Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…* On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: Leaves the door open for future promotions i.e. “keyboard now included for free” which they would much prefer to do rather than admit early defeat by reducing the price. ** ** The price allows their OEMs to easily undercut them, which helps smooth out any bad feelings over MS competing for the hardware business. And no executive wants to be seen toting around a cheap tablet. Let the rank and file use Acers! ** ** Carl ** ** *From:* Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:49 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... ** ** It’s clear…keyboard is extra. ** ** “Both versions will both include a Surface pen with Palm Block technology and include the ability to use a Touch Cover or Type Cover (sold separately).” ** ** ** ** *Rod Trent http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/* [image: myITSMButton] http://www.myitforum.com/[image: TwitterButton]http://twitter.com/rodtrent[image: Facebookbutton] http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent[image: LinkedInButton]http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 ** ** *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.commich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:37 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... ** ** I was under the impression that it included the touch keyboard, just like RT. ** ** But it isn’t clear from the announcement or the website. ** ** The price is basically iPad + Windows Pro. It’s higher than I wanted, but I am not surprised. ** ** *From:* Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com rodtr...@myitforum.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:20 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... ** ** This is my take on it: ** ** http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/29/microsoft-surface-with-windows-8-pro-gets-official-pricing-and-january-2013-availability/ ** ** However, I’d be interested in your take on it. Is it priced right? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage004.pngimage002.pngimage003.pngimage001.png