Xen, Vmware or HyperV
Hi, We are looking at a new VM host here and I have to decide if we go for HyperV (our current option), VMWare (the cheaper version whatever that is) or Xen. Any comments? I used to like HyperV but after some issues with snapshots I'm going off it and I feel it doesn't make best use of the hardware. I don't really want to run another OS on my machine however that I have to learn all over again. Olly [cid:personal25f90.jpg] [cid:g2supportsmall_250x58border1649.png] Network Support Online Backups Server Management Tel: 0845 307 3443 Email: oliver.marsh...@g2support.com Web: http://www.g2support.comhttp://www.g2support.com/ Twitter: g2supporthttp://twitter.com/home?stat...@g2support Newsletter: http://www.g2support.com/newsletter Mail: 2 Roundhill Road, Brighton, Sussex, BN2 3RF Find out more about our referral gift scheme at www.g2support.com/referralhttp://www.g2support.com/referral G2 Support LLP is registered at Mill House, 103 Holmes Avenue, HOVE BN3 7LE. Our registered company number is OC316341. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~inline: personal25f90.jpginline: g2supportsmall_250x58border1649.png
RE: Xen, Vmware or HyperV
Oliver, I would take a look at Vmware's ESXi its still free, and really easy to setup and use. If you want the either all or some of the features then for small site the Vmware Vsphere for small businesses, is I think good value for money. We are using ESXi on remote sites to host local services such as AD and print services, and it just works, even on low end boxes, for the main data centres we are using the full version of Vsphere. If you want to have a chat offline about how we have deployed Vmware, then feel free to contact me off list. Thanks Matt ___ Matt Davies Director of International IT Operations General Atlantic 23 Savile Row London W1S 2ET Tel: +44 207 484 3203 Fax: +44 207 484 2803 Mobile: +44 777 559 4265 ___ From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com] Sent: 15 July 2010 08:49 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Xen, Vmware or HyperV Hi, We are looking at a new VM host here and I have to decide if we go for HyperV (our current option), VMWare (the cheaper version whatever that is) or Xen. Any comments? I used to like HyperV but after some issues with snapshots I'm going off it and I feel it doesn't make best use of the hardware. I don't really want to run another OS on my machine however that I have to learn all over again. Olly [cid:image003.png@01CB240A.4F662C00] Network Support Online Backups Server Management Tel: 0845 307 3443 Email: oliver.marsh...@g2support.com Web: http://www.g2support.comhttp://www.g2support.com/ Twitter: g2supporthttp://twitter.com/home?stat...@g2support Newsletter: http://www.g2support.com/newsletter Mail: 2 Roundhill Road, Brighton, Sussex, BN2 3RF Find out more about our referral gift scheme at www.g2support.com/referralhttp://www.g2support.com/referral G2 Support LLP is registered at Mill House, 103 Holmes Avenue, HOVE BN3 7LE. Our registered company number is OC316341. _ This e-mail (including all attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately at h...@generalatlantic.com . Thank You. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~inline: image001.jpginline: image003.png
Re: Xen, Vmware or HyperV
Personally I'd go for VMware, but that's mainly because I have no experience of the other 2. I tried Xen years ago, but found that all the VMware stuff is a lot easier to use, I started with VMware Workstation about 10 years ago. It really all depends on what features/capabilities you want/need, and what versions support them, if you want something like VMotion, your going to have to pay for it with VMware. I've found the learning curve with any of the VMware stuff to be pretty flat, but others may say the same about HyperV and Xen. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com From: Oliver Marshall oliver.marsh...@g2support.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 15/07/2010 08:50 Subject:Xen, Vmware or HyperV Hi, We are looking at a new VM host here and I have to decide if we go for HyperV (our current option), VMWare (the cheaper version whatever that is) or Xen. Any comments? I used to like HyperV but after some issues with snapshots I'm going off it and I feel it doesn't make best use of the hardware. I don't really want to run another OS on my machine however that I have to learn all over again. Olly Network Support Online Backups Server Management Tel: 0845 307 3443 Email: oliver.marsh...@g2support.com Web: http://www.g2support.com Twitter: g2support Newsletter: http://www.g2support.com/newsletter Mail: 2 Roundhill Road, Brighton, Sussex, BN2 3RF Find out more about our referral gift scheme at www.g2support.com/referral G2 Support LLP is registered at Mill House, 103 Holmes Avenue, HOVE BN3 7LE. Our registered company number is OC316341. This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration), unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Its head office is at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image/jpegimage/png
Re: Xen, Vmware or HyperV
VMWare On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Jeff Cain je...@sunbelt-software.comwrote: Vmware ESXi would be my first choice. Thanks, Jeff Cain Technical Support Analyst Sunbelt Software Email: supp...@sunbeltsoftware.com Voice: 1-877-757-4094 Fax: 1-727-562-5199 Web: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com Physical Address: 33 N Garden Ave Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 United States If you do not want further email from us, please forward this message to listmana...@sunbelt-software.com with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject of your email. *Helpful Sunbelt Software Links:* Knowledge Base http://support.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Open a New Support Tickethttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Support/Contact/ Sunbelt Software Product Support Communitieshttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/communities/ *From:* tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:54 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Xen, Vmware or HyperV Personally I'd go for VMware, but that's mainly because I have no experience of the other 2. I tried Xen years ago, but found that all the VMware stuff is a lot easier to use, I started with VMware Workstation about 10 years ago. It really all depends on what features/capabilities you want/need, and what versions support them, if you want something like VMotion, your going to have to pay for it with VMware. I've found the learning curve with any of the VMware stuff to be pretty flat, but others may say the same about HyperV and Xen. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com From:Oliver Marshall oliver.marsh...@g2support.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:15/07/2010 08:50 Subject:Xen, Vmware or HyperV -- Hi, We are looking at a new VM host here and I have to decide if we go for HyperV (our current option), VMWare (the cheaper version whatever that is) or Xen. Any comments? I used to like HyperV but after some issues with snapshots I'm going off it and I feel it doesn't make best use of the hardware. I don't really want to run another OS on my machine however that I have to learn all over again. Olly Network Support Online Backups Server Management Tel: 0845 307 3443 Email: oliver.marsh...@g2support.com Web: http://www.g2support.com Twitter: g2support http://twitter.com/home?stat...@g2support Newsletter: http://www.g2support.com/newsletter Mail: 2 Roundhill Road, Brighton, Sussex, BN2 3RF Find out more about our referral gift scheme at www.g2support.com/referral G2 Support LLP is registered at Mill House, 103 Holmes Avenue, HOVE BN3 7LE. Our registered company number is OC316341. This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration), unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Its head office is at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ... -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.png
Re: Xen, Vmware or HyperV
+1 If you have a small environment, like I do with only two hosts, you can step into vSphere for management for ~$1,000 at a later time. On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Jeff Cain je...@sunbelt-software.comwrote: Vmware ESXi would be my first choice. Thanks, Jeff Cain Technical Support Analyst Sunbelt Software Email: supp...@sunbeltsoftware.com Voice: 1-877-757-4094 Fax: 1-727-562-5199 Web: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com Physical Address: 33 N Garden Ave Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 United States If you do not want further email from us, please forward this message to listmana...@sunbelt-software.com with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject of your email. *Helpful Sunbelt Software Links:* Knowledge Base http://support.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Open a New Support Tickethttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Support/Contact/ Sunbelt Software Product Support Communitieshttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/communities/ *From:* tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:54 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Xen, Vmware or HyperV Personally I'd go for VMware, but that's mainly because I have no experience of the other 2. I tried Xen years ago, but found that all the VMware stuff is a lot easier to use, I started with VMware Workstation about 10 years ago. It really all depends on what features/capabilities you want/need, and what versions support them, if you want something like VMotion, your going to have to pay for it with VMware. I've found the learning curve with any of the VMware stuff to be pretty flat, but others may say the same about HyperV and Xen. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com From:Oliver Marshall oliver.marsh...@g2support.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:15/07/2010 08:50 Subject:Xen, Vmware or HyperV -- Hi, We are looking at a new VM host here and I have to decide if we go for HyperV (our current option), VMWare (the cheaper version whatever that is) or Xen. Any comments? I used to like HyperV but after some issues with snapshots I'm going off it and I feel it doesn't make best use of the hardware. I don't really want to run another OS on my machine however that I have to learn all over again. Olly Network Support Online Backups Server Management Tel: 0845 307 3443 Email: oliver.marsh...@g2support.com Web: http://www.g2support.com Twitter: g2support http://twitter.com/home?stat...@g2support Newsletter: http://www.g2support.com/newsletter Mail: 2 Roundhill Road, Brighton, Sussex, BN2 3RF Find out more about our referral gift scheme at www.g2support.com/referral G2 Support LLP is registered at Mill House, 103 Holmes Avenue, HOVE BN3 7LE. Our registered company number is OC316341. This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration), unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Its head office is at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image002.pngimage001.jpg
Re: Xen, Vmware or HyperV
What are you looking to support on this VM, and what have been your problems with snapshots? I happen to love HyperV in 2008 R2. I like VMWare, and have used it pretty extensively, but if the requirement is to support a small environment and that doesn't require a whole lot of automatic high-availability features, then I prefer HyperV. I haven't tried Xen, yet, so I can't speak to it as an option, although I have heard pretty good things about it. -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Oliver Marshall oliver.marsh...@g2support.com wrote: Hi, We are looking at a new VM host here and I have to decide if we go for HyperV (our current option), VMWare (the cheaper version whatever that is) or Xen. Any comments? I used to like HyperV but after some issues with snapshots I'm going off it and I feel it doesn't make best use of the hardware. I don't really want to run another OS on my machine however that I have to learn all over again. Olly Network Support Online Backups Server Management Tel: 0845 307 3443 Email: oliver.marsh...@g2support.com Web: http://www.g2support.com Twitter: g2support http://twitter.com/home?stat...@g2support Newsletter: http://www.g2support.com/newsletter Mail: 2 Roundhill Road, Brighton, Sussex, BN2 3RF Find out more about our referral gift scheme at www.g2support.com/referral G2 Support LLP is registered at Mill House, 103 Holmes Avenue, HOVE BN3 7LE. Our registered company number is OC316341. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~g2supportsmall_250x58border1649.pngpersonal25f90.jpg
Re: Xen, Vmware or HyperV
I use Hyper V as well. Works great. On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: I had a Dr. Dr. it hurts when I do this problem with Hyper-V snapshots once... so I don't do that any more. They really should add are you SURE you want to make a snapshot? If you don't want to run another OS that you have to learn all over again, your only choice among the 3 is Hyper-V. Hmm... Yes, it may use a little more RAM and HDD space to run Hyper-V... but that's the price of having all the device support that Windows includes. Carl -- *From:* Oliver Marshall [mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Xen, Vmware or HyperV Hi, We are looking at a new VM host here and I have to decide if we go for HyperV (our current option), VMWare (the cheaper version whatever that is) or Xen. Any comments? I used to like HyperV but after some issues with snapshots I'm going off it and I feel it doesn't make best use of the hardware. I don't really want to run another OS on my machine however that I have to learn all over again. Olly Network Support Online Backups Server Management Tel: 0845 307 3443 Email: oliver.marsh...@g2support.com Web: http://www.g2support.com Twitter: g2support http://twitter.com/home?stat...@g2support Newsletter: http://www.g2support.com/newsletter Mail: 2 Roundhill Road, Brighton, Sussex, BN2 3RF Find out more about our referral gift scheme at www.g2support.com/referral G2 Support LLP is registered at Mill House, 103 Holmes Avenue, HOVE BN3 7LE. Our registered company number is OC316341. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~personal25f90.jpgg2supportsmall_250x58border1649.png
