Re: Copy NTFS perms

2012-01-24 Thread Andrew S. Baker
And SUBINACL is viable as well.

And ICACLS

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On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> My standard answer: fileacl.exe
>
> Let it produce its batchfile output from the correct tree, do a
> search/replace, apply it to the new directory.
>
>
> There are other answers, but I like this tool.
>
> Kurt
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 13:41, David Lum  wrote:
> > Is there a way to mirror NTFS permissions from two otherwise nearly
> > identical folder structures? One folder structure had the correct ACL’s,
> buy
> > they were GUI-copied to another drive and the ACL’s on the new drive
> don’t
> > match the originals.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there a way to fake Robocopy this?
> >
> > David Lum
> > Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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Re: Copy NTFS perms

2012-01-24 Thread Andrew S. Baker
+10

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On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  Robocopy and xcopy can both copy perms.
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> ** **
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 4:41 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Copy NTFS perms
>
>  ** **
>
> Is there a way to mirror NTFS permissions from two otherwise nearly
> identical folder structures? One folder structure had the correct ACL’s,
> buy they were GUI-copied to another drive and the ACL’s on the new drive
> don’t match the originals.
>
> ** **
>
> Is there a way to fake Robocopy this?
>
> *David Lum*
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
>
>
>

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RE: Copy NTFS perms

2012-01-23 Thread Crawford, Scott
/secfix is the robocopy option you're looking for.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 3:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copy NTFS perms

Is there a way to mirror NTFS permissions from two otherwise nearly identical 
folder structures? One folder structure had the correct ACL's, buy they were 
GUI-copied to another drive and the ACL's on the new drive don't match the 
originals.

Is there a way to fake Robocopy this?
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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Re: Copy NTFS perms

2012-01-23 Thread Kurt Buff
My standard answer: fileacl.exe

Let it produce its batchfile output from the correct tree, do a
search/replace, apply it to the new directory.


There are other answers, but I like this tool.

Kurt


On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 13:41, David Lum  wrote:
> Is there a way to mirror NTFS permissions from two otherwise nearly
> identical folder structures? One folder structure had the correct ACL’s, buy
> they were GUI-copied to another drive and the ACL’s on the new drive don’t
> match the originals.
>
>
>
> Is there a way to fake Robocopy this?
>
> David Lum
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
>
>
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Re: Copy NTFS perms

2012-01-23 Thread Rankin, James R
Doesnt robocopy with the SEC switch do perms?

Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

-Original Message-
From: David Lum 
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:41:29 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Copy NTFS perms

Is there a way to mirror NTFS permissions from two otherwise nearly identical 
folder structures? One folder structure had the correct ACL's, buy they were 
GUI-copied to another drive and the ACL's on the new drive don't match the 
originals.

Is there a way to fake Robocopy this?
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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Re: Copy NTFS perms

2012-01-23 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> Is there a way to mirror NTFS permissions from two otherwise nearly
> identical folder structures? One folder structure had the correct ACL’s, buy
> they were GUI-copied to another drive and the ACL’s on the new drive don’t
> match the originals.

  ROBOCOPY has a way to just copy ACLs, not data.  The /? help will tell you.

-- Ben

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RE: Copy NTFS perms

2012-01-23 Thread Michael B. Smith
Robocopy and xcopy can both copy perms.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 4:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copy NTFS perms

Is there a way to mirror NTFS permissions from two otherwise nearly identical 
folder structures? One folder structure had the correct ACL's, buy they were 
GUI-copied to another drive and the ACL's on the new drive don't match the 
originals.

Is there a way to fake Robocopy this?
David Lum
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RE: Copy NTFS perms

2012-01-23 Thread Joseph L. Casale
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323275

From: David Lum [david@nwea.org]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copy NTFS perms

Is there a way to mirror NTFS permissions from two otherwise nearly identical 
folder structures? One folder structure had the correct ACL’s, buy they were 
GUI-copied to another drive and the ACL’s on the new drive don’t match the 
originals.

Is there a way to fake Robocopy this?
David Lum
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Re: Copy NTFS perms

2012-01-23 Thread Don Ely
xcalcs

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:41 PM, David Lum  wrote:

> Is there a way to mirror NTFS permissions from two otherwise nearly
> identical folder structures? One folder structure had the correct ACL’s,
> buy they were GUI-copied to another drive and the ACL’s on the new drive
> don’t match the originals.
>
> ** **
>
> Is there a way to fake Robocopy this?
>
> *David Lum*
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
>
> ** **
>
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RE: ntfs perms

2008-09-26 Thread Tom Miller
is ABE the default for Windows 2008?  I'm just getting into 2008 an that
would be really nice, especially migrating from Netware were users only
see what they have explicate permissions to see.

>>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/25/2008 5:56 PM
>>>
This worked great.  Thanks for the tip!

Original Message:
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From: Kennedy, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:13:45 -0400
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Subject: RE: ntfs perms


Access-based Enumeration should fix you up.

Download:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=04A563D9-78D9-4342-

A485-B030AC442084&displaylang=en

Docs:

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: ntfs perms
>
>
> I was asked to create a folder on the server where students are:
>
> ALLOWED TO:
> Create files and edit their own files
>
> NOT ALLOWED TO:
> Open/edit files that were NOT created by them.
>
> This was achieved by basically giving them list permission to the
> folder
> and the create files/folders perimission.  Then giving creator/owner
> permission to write data and append data.
>
> This works great...  Students can create files in the folder, and
edit
> their own files, but can't see the data in other files of other
> students.
> BUT.  Now i'm also being asked to set up that same folder so that
> students
> can't see the contents of the folder, except their OWN files.  I
cannot
> figure out how to do this -- I don't think it can be done.  If I
remove
> List access to the folder, they can't even get into the folder.
>
> Any ideas?  or is this just not possible...  Rather not have to
create
> subfolders for each student and manually assign permissions to each
> folder
> -- too many students to do this for...
>
>
>
> 
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RE: ntfs perms

2008-09-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This worked great.  Thanks for the tip!

Original Message:
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From: Kennedy, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:13:45 -0400
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: ntfs perms


Access-based Enumeration should fix you up.

Download:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=04A563D9-78D9-4342-
A485-B030AC442084&displaylang=en

Docs:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/abe.mspx


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: ntfs perms
>
>
> I was asked to create a folder on the server where students are:
>
> ALLOWED TO:
> Create files and edit their own files
>
> NOT ALLOWED TO:
> Open/edit files that were NOT created by them.
>
> This was achieved by basically giving them list permission to the
> folder
> and the create files/folders perimission.  Then giving creator/owner
> permission to write data and append data.
>
> This works great...  Students can create files in the folder, and edit
> their own files, but can't see the data in other files of other
> students.
> BUT.  Now i'm also being asked to set up that same folder so that
> students
> can't see the contents of the folder, except their OWN files.  I cannot
> figure out how to do this -- I don't think it can be done.  If I remove
> List access to the folder, they can't even get into the folder.
>
> Any ideas?  or is this just not possible...  Rather not have to create
> subfolders for each student and manually assign permissions to each
> folder
> -- too many students to do this for...
>
>
>
> 
> mail2web.com - What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you?
> http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint
>
>
>
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RE: ntfs perms

2008-09-25 Thread Kennedy, Jim
As an added side note. I don't know how you create your student folders, but I 
do it this way with a redirection of their My Documents at the same time we no 
longer create folders. It happens first time they log in. Something that might 
help you each new school year.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274443



> -Original Message-
> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:14 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: ntfs perms
>
> Access-based Enumeration should fix you up.
>
> Download:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=04A563D9-78D9-
> 4342-A485-B030AC442084&displaylang=en
>
> Docs:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/abe.mspx
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:07 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: ntfs perms
> >
> >
> > I was asked to create a folder on the server where students are:
> >
> > ALLOWED TO:
> > Create files and edit their own files
> >
> > NOT ALLOWED TO:
> > Open/edit files that were NOT created by them.
> >
> > This was achieved by basically giving them list permission to the
> > folder
> > and the create files/folders perimission.  Then giving creator/owner
> > permission to write data and append data.
> >
> > This works great...  Students can create files in the folder, and
> edit
> > their own files, but can't see the data in other files of other
> > students.
> > BUT.  Now i'm also being asked to set up that same folder so that
> > students
> > can't see the contents of the folder, except their OWN files.  I
> cannot
> > figure out how to do this -- I don't think it can be done.  If I
> remove
> > List access to the folder, they can't even get into the folder.
> >
> > Any ideas?  or is this just not possible...  Rather not have to
> create
> > subfolders for each student and manually assign permissions to each
> > folder
> > -- too many students to do this for...
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > mail2web.com - What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you?
> > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint
> >
> >
> >
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RE: ntfs perms

2008-09-25 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Access-based Enumeration should fix you up.

Download:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=04A563D9-78D9-4342-A485-B030AC442084&displaylang=en

Docs:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/abe.mspx


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: ntfs perms
>
>
> I was asked to create a folder on the server where students are:
>
> ALLOWED TO:
> Create files and edit their own files
>
> NOT ALLOWED TO:
> Open/edit files that were NOT created by them.
>
> This was achieved by basically giving them list permission to the
> folder
> and the create files/folders perimission.  Then giving creator/owner
> permission to write data and append data.
>
> This works great...  Students can create files in the folder, and edit
> their own files, but can't see the data in other files of other
> students.
> BUT.  Now i'm also being asked to set up that same folder so that
> students
> can't see the contents of the folder, except their OWN files.  I cannot
> figure out how to do this -- I don't think it can be done.  If I remove
> List access to the folder, they can't even get into the folder.
>
> Any ideas?  or is this just not possible...  Rather not have to create
> subfolders for each student and manually assign permissions to each
> folder
> -- too many students to do this for...
>
>
>
> 
> mail2web.com - What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you?
> http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

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ntfs perms

2008-09-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was asked to create a folder on the server where students are:

ALLOWED TO:
Create files and edit their own files

NOT ALLOWED TO:
Open/edit files that were NOT created by them.

This was achieved by basically giving them list permission to the folder
and the create files/folders perimission.  Then giving creator/owner
permission to write data and append data. 

This works great...  Students can create files in the folder, and edit
their own files, but can't see the data in other files of other students. 
BUT.  Now i'm also being asked to set up that same folder so that students
can't see the contents of the folder, except their OWN files.  I cannot
figure out how to do this -- I don't think it can be done.  If I remove
List access to the folder, they can't even get into the folder. 

Any ideas?  or is this just not possible...  Rather not have to create
subfolders for each student and manually assign permissions to each folder
-- too many students to do this for...




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Re: Modify NTFS Perms

2008-05-14 Thread Rubens Almeida
or as your last resort, you can google for a utility called "admnalow.exe"

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RE: Modify NTFS Perms

2008-05-14 Thread Ken Schaefer
You don't have to be an Owner - you need 'Change Permissions'

Cheers
Ken

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 15 May 2008 6:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

You have to be an owner of a file to change the permissions. Take ownership 
first.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

That's exactly what I was running and some files were not receiving the new 
user?
I also encountered an error about incorrect acl size, so I ran the resize 
switch. I cant find much info on that issue. I wonder if there is some 
corruption on this volume, I am going to run a chkdisk.

Thanks!
jlc

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Icacls e:\*.* /grant domain\backupuser:F /T /C

Or

Icacls e:\*.* /grant "domain\backup operators":F /T /C

I would do the second as there might be user rights issues.  After that, sounds 
like you might start with Dumpsec and see what's left from ownership issues: 
http://www.somarsoft.com/

-Bonnie

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Yeah, he removed that from everything:) Lol...
There may still be some issues pertaining to ownership and me not being able to 
access the files to add the perm.

How could I traverse the entire structure, and search for what few mods he made 
with ownership while removing all sec groups/users except those who use the 
data?

What a mess...

jlc




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RE: Modify NTFS Perms

2008-05-14 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Yea, I am already on that. That's another thing got messed up...
There's very good documentation on that in technet.

Thanks!
jlc

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Yep to what Michael said.

There are a few things that might have issues when ownership changes-roaming 
profiles, with default AD settings, want to have the owner be the user loading 
the profile.  There is an AD GPO setting you can apply to change this if needed 
though.  Some quota software also relies on ownership.  You just have to decide 
if it will be an issue on your server based on what is being stored.

-Bonnie

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Ownership has nothing to do with permissions (other than the pseudo-objects 
SELF and CREATOR-OWNER).

Taking ownership just allows you to change the permissions.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Hrm, if I use takeown for example and let it recursively process a whole drive, 
what should I expect to happen to perms after?

If a file for example only has one user with perms, and is the owner what would 
happen?

Appreciate all the help guys, I have 1.5 hours to get this solved and a backup 
started before my window disappears and I am the only guy fielding all the 
hysteria today!
jlc

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

You have to be an owner of a file to change the permissions. Take ownership 
first.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

That's exactly what I was running and some files were not receiving the new 
user?
I also encountered an error about incorrect acl size, so I ran the resize 
switch. I cant find much info on that issue. I wonder if there is some 
corruption on this volume, I am going to run a chkdisk.

Thanks!
jlc

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Icacls e:\*.* /grant domain\backupuser:F /T /C

Or

Icacls e:\*.* /grant "domain\backup operators":F /T /C

I would do the second as there might be user rights issues.  After that, sounds 
like you might start with Dumpsec and see what's left from ownership issues: 
http://www.somarsoft.com/

-Bonnie

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Yeah, he removed that from everything:) Lol...
There may still be some issues pertaining to ownership and me not being able to 
access the files to add the perm.

How could I traverse the entire structure, and search for what few mods he made 
with ownership while removing all sec groups/users except those who use the 
data?

What a mess...

jlc

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Just add the user to "Backup Operators". Done.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Modify NTFS Perms

My last IT guy who just left last night made a mess of perms of a file server. 
I need to add without disturbing any existing perms a user for the backup to 
get access. I tried icacls on this win2k3r2 file server and I must be doing 
something wrong.

Lets say I have a volume with ~750gig of data all with different acls. I wanted 
to add a user, Domain\BackupUser to all files, and set folders to propagate 
this added acl into anything new a users creates in the folders.

Anyone got any pointes on this? I am about to pass out with stress being the 
only guy today with a busted SQL and Backup server :)

Thanks!
jlc





























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RE: Modify NTFS Perms

2008-05-14 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
Yep to what Michael said.

There are a few things that might have issues when ownership changes-roaming 
profiles, with default AD settings, want to have the owner be the user loading 
the profile.  There is an AD GPO setting you can apply to change this if needed 
though.  Some quota software also relies on ownership.  You just have to decide 
if it will be an issue on your server based on what is being stored.

-Bonnie

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Ownership has nothing to do with permissions (other than the pseudo-objects 
SELF and CREATOR-OWNER).

Taking ownership just allows you to change the permissions.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Hrm, if I use takeown for example and let it recursively process a whole drive, 
what should I expect to happen to perms after?

If a file for example only has one user with perms, and is the owner what would 
happen?

Appreciate all the help guys, I have 1.5 hours to get this solved and a backup 
started before my window disappears and I am the only guy fielding all the 
hysteria today!
jlc

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

You have to be an owner of a file to change the permissions. Take ownership 
first.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

That's exactly what I was running and some files were not receiving the new 
user?
I also encountered an error about incorrect acl size, so I ran the resize 
switch. I cant find much info on that issue. I wonder if there is some 
corruption on this volume, I am going to run a chkdisk.

Thanks!
jlc

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Icacls e:\*.* /grant domain\backupuser:F /T /C

Or

Icacls e:\*.* /grant "domain\backup operators":F /T /C

I would do the second as there might be user rights issues.  After that, sounds 
like you might start with Dumpsec and see what's left from ownership issues: 
http://www.somarsoft.com/

-Bonnie

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Yeah, he removed that from everything:) Lol...
There may still be some issues pertaining to ownership and me not being able to 
access the files to add the perm.

How could I traverse the entire structure, and search for what few mods he made 
with ownership while removing all sec groups/users except those who use the 
data?

What a mess...

jlc

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Just add the user to "Backup Operators". Done.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Modify NTFS Perms

My last IT guy who just left last night made a mess of perms of a file server. 
I need to add without disturbing any existing perms a user for the backup to 
get access. I tried icacls on this win2k3r2 file server and I must be doing 
something wrong.

Lets say I have a volume with ~750gig of data all with different acls. I wanted 
to add a user, Domain\BackupUser to all files, and set folders to propagate 
this added acl into anything new a users creates in the folders.

Anyone got any pointes on this? I am about to pass out with stress being the 
only guy today with a busted SQL and Backup server :)

Thanks!
jlc


























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RE: Modify NTFS Perms

2008-05-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Ownership has nothing to do with permissions (other than the pseudo-objects
SELF and CREATOR-OWNER).

 

Taking ownership just allows you to change the permissions.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

 

Hrm, if I use takeown for example and let it recursively process a whole
drive, what should I expect to happen to perms after?

 

If a file for example only has one user with perms, and is the owner what
would happen?

 

Appreciate all the help guys, I have 1.5 hours to get this solved and a
backup started before my window disappears and I am the only guy fielding
all the hysteria today!
jlc

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

 

You have to be an owner of a file to change the permissions. Take ownership
first.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

 

That's exactly what I was running and some files were not receiving the new
user?
I also encountered an error about incorrect acl size, so I ran the resize
switch. I cant find much info on that issue. I wonder if there is some
corruption on this volume, I am going to run a chkdisk.

 

Thanks!
jlc

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

 

Icacls e:\*.* /grant domain\backupuser:F /T /C

 

Or

 

Icacls e:\*.* /grant "domain\backup operators":F /T /C

 

I would do the second as there might be user rights issues.  After that,
sounds like you might start with Dumpsec and see what's left from ownership
issues: http://www.somarsoft.com/

 

-Bonnie

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

 

Yeah, he removed that from everythingJ Lol.
There may still be some issues pertaining to ownership and me not being able
to access the files to add the perm.

 

How could I traverse the entire structure, and search for what few mods he
made with ownership while removing all sec groups/users except those who use
the data?

 

What a mess.

jlc

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

 

Just add the user to "Backup Operators". Done.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Modify NTFS Perms

 

My last IT guy who just left last night made a mess of perms of a file
server. I need to add without disturbing any existing perms a user for the
backup to get access. I tried icacls on this win2k3r2 file server and I must
be doing something wrong.

 

Lets say I have a volume with ~750gig of data all with different acls. I
wanted to add a user, Domain\BackupUser to all files, and set folders to
propagate this added acl into anything new a users creates in the folders.

 

Anyone got any pointes on this? I am about to pass out with stress being the
only guy today with a busted SQL and Backup server J

 

Thanks!
jlc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Modify NTFS Perms

2008-05-14 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Hrm, if I use takeown for example and let it recursively process a whole drive, 
what should I expect to happen to perms after?

If a file for example only has one user with perms, and is the owner what would 
happen?

Appreciate all the help guys, I have 1.5 hours to get this solved and a backup 
started before my window disappears and I am the only guy fielding all the 
hysteria today!
jlc

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

You have to be an owner of a file to change the permissions. Take ownership 
first.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

That's exactly what I was running and some files were not receiving the new 
user?
I also encountered an error about incorrect acl size, so I ran the resize 
switch. I cant find much info on that issue. I wonder if there is some 
corruption on this volume, I am going to run a chkdisk.

Thanks!
jlc

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Icacls e:\*.* /grant domain\backupuser:F /T /C

Or

Icacls e:\*.* /grant "domain\backup operators":F /T /C

I would do the second as there might be user rights issues.  After that, sounds 
like you might start with Dumpsec and see what's left from ownership issues: 
http://www.somarsoft.com/

-Bonnie

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Yeah, he removed that from everything:) Lol...
There may still be some issues pertaining to ownership and me not being able to 
access the files to add the perm.

How could I traverse the entire structure, and search for what few mods he made 
with ownership while removing all sec groups/users except those who use the 
data?

What a mess...

jlc

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Just add the user to "Backup Operators". Done.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Modify NTFS Perms

My last IT guy who just left last night made a mess of perms of a file server. 
I need to add without disturbing any existing perms a user for the backup to 
get access. I tried icacls on this win2k3r2 file server and I must be doing 
something wrong.

Lets say I have a volume with ~750gig of data all with different acls. I wanted 
to add a user, Domain\BackupUser to all files, and set folders to propagate 
this added acl into anything new a users creates in the folders.

Anyone got any pointes on this? I am about to pass out with stress being the 
only guy today with a busted SQL and Backup server :)

Thanks!
jlc




















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RE: Modify NTFS Perms

2008-05-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
You have to be an owner of a file to change the permissions. Take ownership
first.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

 

That's exactly what I was running and some files were not receiving the new
user?
I also encountered an error about incorrect acl size, so I ran the resize
switch. I cant find much info on that issue. I wonder if there is some
corruption on this volume, I am going to run a chkdisk.

 

Thanks!
jlc

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

 

Icacls e:\*.* /grant domain\backupuser:F /T /C

 

Or

 

Icacls e:\*.* /grant "domain\backup operators":F /T /C

 

I would do the second as there might be user rights issues.  After that,
sounds like you might start with Dumpsec and see what's left from ownership
issues: http://www.somarsoft.com/

 

-Bonnie

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

 

Yeah, he removed that from everythingJ Lol.
There may still be some issues pertaining to ownership and me not being able
to access the files to add the perm.

 

How could I traverse the entire structure, and search for what few mods he
made with ownership while removing all sec groups/users except those who use
the data?

 

What a mess.

jlc

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

 

Just add the user to "Backup Operators". Done.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Modify NTFS Perms

 

My last IT guy who just left last night made a mess of perms of a file
server. I need to add without disturbing any existing perms a user for the
backup to get access. I tried icacls on this win2k3r2 file server and I must
be doing something wrong.

 

Lets say I have a volume with ~750gig of data all with different acls. I
wanted to add a user, Domain\BackupUser to all files, and set folders to
propagate this added acl into anything new a users creates in the folders.

 

Anyone got any pointes on this? I am about to pass out with stress being the
only guy today with a busted SQL and Backup server J

 

Thanks!
jlc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Modify NTFS Perms

2008-05-14 Thread Joseph L. Casale
That's exactly what I was running and some files were not receiving the new 
user?
I also encountered an error about incorrect acl size, so I ran the resize 
switch. I cant find much info on that issue. I wonder if there is some 
corruption on this volume, I am going to run a chkdisk.

Thanks!
jlc


From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Icacls e:\*.* /grant domain\backupuser:F /T /C

Or

Icacls e:\*.* /grant "domain\backup operators":F /T /C

I would do the second as there might be user rights issues.  After that, sounds 
like you might start with Dumpsec and see what's left from ownership issues: 
http://www.somarsoft.com/

-Bonnie

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Yeah, he removed that from everything:) Lol...
There may still be some issues pertaining to ownership and me not being able to 
access the files to add the perm.

How could I traverse the entire structure, and search for what few mods he made 
with ownership while removing all sec groups/users except those who use the 
data?

What a mess...

jlc

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Just add the user to "Backup Operators". Done.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Modify NTFS Perms

My last IT guy who just left last night made a mess of perms of a file server. 
I need to add without disturbing any existing perms a user for the backup to 
get access. I tried icacls on this win2k3r2 file server and I must be doing 
something wrong.

Lets say I have a volume with ~750gig of data all with different acls. I wanted 
to add a user, Domain\BackupUser to all files, and set folders to propagate 
this added acl into anything new a users creates in the folders.

Anyone got any pointes on this? I am about to pass out with stress being the 
only guy today with a busted SQL and Backup server :)

Thanks!
jlc














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RE: Modify NTFS Perms

2008-05-14 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
Icacls e:\*.* /grant domain\backupuser:F /T /C

Or

Icacls e:\*.* /grant "domain\backup operators":F /T /C

I would do the second as there might be user rights issues.  After that, sounds 
like you might start with Dumpsec and see what's left from ownership issues: 
http://www.somarsoft.com/

-Bonnie

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Yeah, he removed that from everything:) Lol...
There may still be some issues pertaining to ownership and me not being able to 
access the files to add the perm.

How could I traverse the entire structure, and search for what few mods he made 
with ownership while removing all sec groups/users except those who use the 
data?

What a mess...

jlc

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Just add the user to "Backup Operators". Done.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Modify NTFS Perms

My last IT guy who just left last night made a mess of perms of a file server. 
I need to add without disturbing any existing perms a user for the backup to 
get access. I tried icacls on this win2k3r2 file server and I must be doing 
something wrong.

Lets say I have a volume with ~750gig of data all with different acls. I wanted 
to add a user, Domain\BackupUser to all files, and set folders to propagate 
this added acl into anything new a users creates in the folders.

Anyone got any pointes on this? I am about to pass out with stress being the 
only guy today with a busted SQL and Backup server :)

Thanks!
jlc











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RE: Modify NTFS Perms

2008-05-14 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Yeah, he removed that from everything:) Lol...
There may still be some issues pertaining to ownership and me not being able to 
access the files to add the perm.

How could I traverse the entire structure, and search for what few mods he made 
with ownership while removing all sec groups/users except those who use the 
data?

What a mess...

jlc

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Modify NTFS Perms

Just add the user to "Backup Operators". Done.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Modify NTFS Perms

My last IT guy who just left last night made a mess of perms of a file server. 
I need to add without disturbing any existing perms a user for the backup to 
get access. I tried icacls on this win2k3r2 file server and I must be doing 
something wrong.

Lets say I have a volume with ~750gig of data all with different acls. I wanted 
to add a user, Domain\BackupUser to all files, and set folders to propagate 
this added acl into anything new a users creates in the folders.

Anyone got any pointes on this? I am about to pass out with stress being the 
only guy today with a busted SQL and Backup server :)

Thanks!
jlc








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RE: Modify NTFS Perms

2008-05-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Just add the user to "Backup Operators". Done.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Modify NTFS Perms

 

My last IT guy who just left last night made a mess of perms of a file
server. I need to add without disturbing any existing perms a user for the
backup to get access. I tried icacls on this win2k3r2 file server and I must
be doing something wrong.

 

Lets say I have a volume with ~750gig of data all with different acls. I
wanted to add a user, Domain\BackupUser to all files, and set folders to
propagate this added acl into anything new a users creates in the folders.

 

Anyone got any pointes on this? I am about to pass out with stress being the
only guy today with a busted SQL and Backup server J

 

Thanks!
jlc

 

 

 

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Modify NTFS Perms

2008-05-14 Thread Joseph L. Casale
My last IT guy who just left last night made a mess of perms of a file server. 
I need to add without disturbing any existing perms a user for the backup to 
get access. I tried icacls on this win2k3r2 file server and I must be doing 
something wrong.

Lets say I have a volume with ~750gig of data all with different acls. I wanted 
to add a user, Domain\BackupUser to all files, and set folders to propagate 
this added acl into anything new a users creates in the folders.

Anyone got any pointes on this? I am about to pass out with stress being the 
only guy today with a busted SQL and Backup server :)

Thanks!
jlc


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