RE: WINS question

[Free, Bob]

Standard answer, it depends. If everything in on one LAN it is different from 
an environment with hundreds of routers. Some folks here still talk about 
Network Neighborhood in their environments too so it depends :)

NetBIOS roots were broadcast based, it evolved from there.  WINS evolved to 
become the arbiter of NetBIOS name registration and resolution making it 
manageable in larger networks.

When you are talking about disabling NetBIOS over TCP/IP it is frequently 
referred to as disabling the WINS client but the point I was trying to make is 
that NetBIOS is more than the oversimplification a lot of folks make that it is 
just single-label AKA- NetBIOS name to IP resolution. " NetBIOS defines a 
software interface and a naming convention. It does not define a protocol. 
NetBIOS over TCP/IP provides the NetBIOS programming interface over the TCP/IP 
protocol. It extends the reach of NetBIOS client and server programs to the 
wide area network (WAN)"

If it was only about name-IP address resolution, it would have died long ago 
when MS embraced DNS as the predominate method of name resolution like was 
often rumored :)

From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

I may be missing the boat on this, but I saw some comments from folks about 
having Exchange 2003, et al, and no WINS.  It would be my belief/understanding 
that NetBIOS was still used in those environments.  WINS just gives you a more 
manageable, centralized way of handling NetBIOS.



From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question
I absolutely share your concern, I'm on the other side of that fence in that I 
AM responsible for them. Since we count our applications in the thousands and 
there is no registry of all the interfaces they use, I have no idea how many 
use NetBT or what would break so WINS servers are being lifecycled this year 
for at least one more generation.

What seems to have been lost as this conversation evolved (or devolved 
depending on your POV) there is a  lot more involved than just single-label 
name resolution. Plenty of environments will run fine without WINS/NetBT 
services and the converse is equally true. I have 3 prod AD forests 1 runs it 2 
don't.

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

and this is why we had WINs in our environment and are only now beginning to 
decom them.  Outlook clients over a WAN and Exchange 2003 clusters.  To be 
honest, I suspect some of our really old quirky custom legacy applications will 
have similar issues once we finish.  However, I mentioned this to those folks 
and they are unconcerned.  As I do not directly or indirectly manage or support 
those things, I will mind my own business and we will see what happens :)

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
*bow*

Thanks!

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com<mailto:r...@pge.com>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority :)

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx


From: David Mazzaccaro 
[mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com<mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

I am with you 100%.
Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 - no WINS anywhere.

Here's a good little read on it:
http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm




From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com<mailto:neog...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not 
have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that 
required it?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck 
mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now that 
Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are 
mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Really?

I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later 
domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US

By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied 
and pasted from t

RE: WINS question

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Oh yeah, and here's the Microsoft answer...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/837391

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd285511(EXCHG.80).aspx   <--- 
specifically about Outlook 2003/2007 and NetBIOS Name Resolution and WINS


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com
jra...@eaglemds.com

From: Mayo, Bill [bem...@pittcountync.gov]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

I may be missing the boat on this, but I saw some comments from folks about 
having Exchange 2003, et al, and no WINS.  It would be my belief/understanding 
that NetBIOS was still used in those environments.  WINS just gives you a more 
manageable, centralized way of handling NetBIOS.



From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

I absolutely share your concern, I’m on the other side of that fence in that I 
AM responsible for them. Since we count our applications in the thousands and 
there is no registry of all the interfaces they use, I have no idea how many 
use NetBT or what would break so WINS servers are being lifecycled this year 
for at least one more generation.

What seems to have been lost as this conversation evolved (or devolved 
depending on your POV) there is a  lot more involved than just single-label 
name resolution. Plenty of environments will run fine without WINS/NetBT 
services and the converse is equally true. I have 3 prod AD forests 1 runs it 2 
don’t.

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

and this is why we had WINs in our environment and are only now beginning to 
decom them.  Outlook clients over a WAN and Exchange 2003 clusters.  To be 
honest, I suspect some of our really old quirky custom legacy applications will 
have similar issues once we finish.  However, I mentioned this to those folks 
and they are unconcerned.  As I do not directly or indirectly manage or support 
those things, I will mind my own business and we will see what happens :)


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
*bow*

Thanks!

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com<mailto:r...@pge.com>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority ☺

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx


From: David Mazzaccaro 
[mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com<mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

I am with you 100%.
Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 – no WINS anywhere.

Here’s a good little read on it:
http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm




From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com<mailto:neog...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not 
have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that 
required it?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck 
mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now that 
Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are 
mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Really?

I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later 
domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US

By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied 
and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties)

*
Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable 
NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) 
server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the 
value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP 
option.

When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by 
default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by 
the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration 
lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by 
the DHCP server, the value of the option determines wheth

RE: WINS question

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

ding! ding! ding! We have a winner!

:-)

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Look about 5 emails down and review the link to Michael's site. It explains the 
need for WINS/NetBIOS/NetBT in relation to Exchange 2003 quite well. That link 
points to a section entitled, "Exchange, Active Directory, and WINS". If you 
scroll down to the section entitled, "Windows Internet Name Service (WINS)", 
you'll see what I'm talking about. (Though I recommend reading the whole page - 
good stuff).

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com
jra...@eaglemds.com

From: Mayo, Bill [bem...@pittcountync.gov]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

I may be missing the boat on this, but I saw some comments from folks about 
having Exchange 2003, et al, and no WINS.  It would be my belief/understanding 
that NetBIOS was still used in those environments.  WINS just gives you a more 
manageable, centralized way of handling NetBIOS.



From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

I absolutely share your concern, I’m on the other side of that fence in that I 
AM responsible for them. Since we count our applications in the thousands and 
there is no registry of all the interfaces they use, I have no idea how many 
use NetBT or what would break so WINS servers are being lifecycled this year 
for at least one more generation.

What seems to have been lost as this conversation evolved (or devolved 
depending on your POV) there is a  lot more involved than just single-label 
name resolution. Plenty of environments will run fine without WINS/NetBT 
services and the converse is equally true. I have 3 prod AD forests 1 runs it 2 
don’t.

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

and this is why we had WINs in our environment and are only now beginning to 
decom them.  Outlook clients over a WAN and Exchange 2003 clusters.  To be 
honest, I suspect some of our really old quirky custom legacy applications will 
have similar issues once we finish.  However, I mentioned this to those folks 
and they are unconcerned.  As I do not directly or indirectly manage or support 
those things, I will mind my own business and we will see what happens :)


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
*bow*

Thanks!

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com<mailto:r...@pge.com>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority ☺

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx


From: David Mazzaccaro 
[mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com<mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

I am with you 100%.
Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 – no WINS anywhere.

Here’s a good little read on it:
http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm




From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com<mailto:neog...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not 
have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that 
required it?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck 
mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now that 
Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are 
mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Really?

I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later 
domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US

By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied 
and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties)

*
Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable 
NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) 
server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the 
value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP 
option.

When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by 
default so that this

RE: WINS question

[Mayo, Bill]

I may be missing the boat on this, but I saw some comments from folks
about having Exchange 2003, et al, and no WINS.  It would be my
belief/understanding that NetBIOS was still used in those environments.
WINS just gives you a more manageable, centralized way of handling
NetBIOS.  
 
 


From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question



I absolutely share your concern, I'm on the other side of that fence in
that I AM responsible for them. Since we count our applications in the
thousands and there is no registry of all the interfaces they use, I
have no idea how many use NetBT or what would break so WINS servers are
being lifecycled this year for at least one more generation.

 

What seems to have been lost as this conversation evolved (or devolved
depending on your POV) there is a  lot more involved than just
single-label name resolution. Plenty of environments will run fine
without WINS/NetBT services and the converse is equally true. I have 3
prod AD forests 1 runs it 2 don't.

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

 

and this is why we had WINs in our environment and are only now
beginning to decom them.  Outlook clients over a WAN and Exchange 2003
clusters.  To be honest, I suspect some of our really old quirky custom
legacy applications will have similar issues once we finish.  However, I
mentioned this to those folks and they are unconcerned.  As I do not
directly or indirectly manage or support those things, I will mind my
own business and we will see what happens :)




On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Michael B. Smith
 wrote:

*bow*

 

Thanks!

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: WINS question

 

Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority J

 

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchang
e-active-directory-and-wins.aspx

 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

 

I am with you 100%.

Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 - no WINS anywhere.

 

Here's a good little read on it:

http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm

 

 

 

 

From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

 

Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and
do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in
Exchange 2003 that required it?

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck  wrote:

We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now
that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook
clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 wrote:

Really?

I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or
later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US

By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured:
(copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of
network properties)

*
Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or
disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration
Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP
is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT)
Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option.

When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by
default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally
provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and
configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP
option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option
determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS
over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server,
NetBT is enabled.

If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option
enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
**

So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to
2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS?


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com

jra...@eaglemds.com


From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk]


Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject

re: WINS question

[Christopher Bodnar]

If anyone is interested in the original question, I think this answers it 
pretty well:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/299977

Chris
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RE: WINS question

[Michael B. Smith]

Depending on outlook versions, that's correct.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

Excellent explanation on WINS & Exchange 2003 dependencies, Michael.

We're running Ex2007 on Server 2008, not clustered, so there is no need for 
WINS in our environment, (from that standpoint, anyway).

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com
jra...@eaglemds.com

From: Michael B. Smith [mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

*bow*

Thanks!

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority ☺

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx


From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

I am with you 100%.
Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 – no WINS anywhere.

Here’s a good little read on it:
http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm




From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not 
have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that 
required it?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck 
mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now that 
Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are 
mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Really?

I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later 
domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US

By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied 
and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties)

*
Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable 
NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) 
server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the 
value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP 
option.

When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by 
default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by 
the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration 
lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by 
the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or 
disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not 
provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled.

If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables 
NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
**

So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or 
later domain that as no use or need for WINS?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com<http://www.eaglemds.com>
jra...@eaglemds.com<mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>

From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk<mailto:joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS 
until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in 
part of the joining procedure.

Joe Tiedeman
Web Server and Security Administrator
Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167  F 01242 
211122  W www.hesa.ac.uk<http://www.hesa.ac.uk><http://www.hesa.ac.uk/>



From: Christopher Bodnar 
[mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>]
Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WINS question

If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP 
configuration of a client, and there are 

RE: WINS question

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Excellent explanation on WINS & Exchange 2003 dependencies, Michael.

We're running Ex2007 on Server 2008, not clustered, so there is no need for 
WINS in our environment, (from that standpoint, anyway).

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com
jra...@eaglemds.com

From: Michael B. Smith [mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

*bow*

Thanks!

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority ☺

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx


From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

I am with you 100%.
Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 – no WINS anywhere.

Here’s a good little read on it:
http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm




From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not 
have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that 
required it?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck 
mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now that 
Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are 
mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Really?

I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later 
domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US

By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied 
and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties)

*
Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable 
NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) 
server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the 
value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP 
option.

When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by 
default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by 
the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration 
lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by 
the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or 
disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not 
provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled.

If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables 
NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
**

So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or 
later domain that as no use or need for WINS?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com<http://www.eaglemds.com>
jra...@eaglemds.com<mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>

From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk<mailto:joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS 
until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in 
part of the joining procedure.

Joe Tiedeman
Web Server and Security Administrator
Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ
T 01242 211167  F 01242 211122  W 
www.hesa.ac.uk<http://www.hesa.ac.uk><http://www.hesa.ac.uk/>



From: Christopher Bodnar 
[mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>]
Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WINS question

If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP 
configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the 
client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration 
process.  My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, 
it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on 
this.

Thank you,


Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Technical Support II

RE: WINS question

[Free, Bob]

I absolutely share your concern, I'm on the other side of that fence in that I 
AM responsible for them. Since we count our applications in the thousands and 
there is no registry of all the interfaces they use, I have no idea how many 
use NetBT or what would break so WINS servers are being lifecycled this year 
for at least one more generation.

What seems to have been lost as this conversation evolved (or devolved 
depending on your POV) there is a  lot more involved than just single-label 
name resolution. Plenty of environments will run fine without WINS/NetBT 
services and the converse is equally true. I have 3 prod AD forests 1 runs it 2 
don't.

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

and this is why we had WINs in our environment and are only now beginning to 
decom them.  Outlook clients over a WAN and Exchange 2003 clusters.  To be 
honest, I suspect some of our really old quirky custom legacy applications will 
have similar issues once we finish.  However, I mentioned this to those folks 
and they are unconcerned.  As I do not directly or indirectly manage or support 
those things, I will mind my own business and we will see what happens :)


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
*bow*

Thanks!

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com<mailto:r...@pge.com>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority :)

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx


From: David Mazzaccaro 
[mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com<mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

I am with you 100%.
Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 - no WINS anywhere.

Here's a good little read on it:
http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm




From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com<mailto:neog...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not 
have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that 
required it?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck 
mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now that 
Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are 
mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Really?

I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later 
domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US

By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied 
and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties)

*
Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable 
NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) 
server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the 
value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP 
option.

When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by 
default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by 
the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration 
lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by 
the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or 
disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not 
provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled.

If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables 
NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
**

So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or 
later domain that as no use or need for WINS?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com<http://www.eaglemds.com>
jra...@eaglemds.com<mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>

From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk<mailto:joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk>]

Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS 
until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STI

RE: WINS question

[David Mazzaccaro]

All my outlook clients are local, and we don't have a cluster.

So I guess in smaller environments like this, you don't need WINS.

 

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

 

and this is why we had WINs in our environment and are only now
beginning to decom them.  Outlook clients over a WAN and Exchange 2003
clusters.  To be honest, I suspect some of our really old quirky custom
legacy applications will have similar issues once we finish.  However, I
mentioned this to those folks and they are unconcerned.  As I do not
directly or indirectly manage or support those things, I will mind my
own business and we will see what happens :)




On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Michael B. Smith
 wrote:

*bow*

 

Thanks!

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: WINS question

 

Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority J

 

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchang
e-active-directory-and-wins.aspx

 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

 

I am with you 100%.

Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 - no WINS anywhere.

 

Here's a good little read on it:

http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm

 

 

 

 

From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

 

Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and
do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in
Exchange 2003 that required it?

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck  wrote:

We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now
that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook
clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 wrote:

Really?

I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or
later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US

By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured:
(copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of
network properties)

*
Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or
disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration
Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP
is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT)
Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option.

When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by
default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally
provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and
configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP
option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option
determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS
over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server,
NetBT is enabled.

If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option
enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
**

So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to
2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS?


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com

jra...@eaglemds.com


From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk]


Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: WINS question


If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable
NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL
uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure.

Joe Tiedeman
Web Server and Security Administrator
Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ

T 01242 211167  F 01242 211122  W www.hesa.ac.uk<http://www.hesa.ac.uk/>




From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]


Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WINS question

If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the
TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified,
does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the
registration process.  My thought is that the client still registers
with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP,

Re: WINS question

[Steven Peck]

and this is why we had WINs in our environment and are only now beginning to
decom them.  Outlook clients over a WAN and Exchange 2003 clusters.  To be
honest, I suspect some of our really old quirky custom legacy applications
will have similar issues once we finish.  However, I mentioned this to those
folks and they are unconcerned.  As I do not directly or indirectly manage
or support those things, I will mind my own business and we will see what
happens :)



On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  **bow**
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: WINS question
>
>
>
> Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority J
>
>
>
>
> http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: WINS question
>
>
>
> I am with you 100%.
>
> Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 – no WINS anywhere.
>
>
>
> Here’s a good little read on it:
>
> http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: WINS question
>
>
>
> Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do
> not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange
> 2003 that required it?
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck  wrote:
>
> We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now
> that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients
> are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.
>
> Steven Peck
> http://www.blkmtn.org
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>
> Really?
>
> I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or
> later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US
>
> By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured:
> (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network
> properties)
>
> *
> Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or
> disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration
> Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is
> provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft
> vendor-specific DHCP option.
>
> When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by
> default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided
> by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and
> configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option
> is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether
> NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT)
> DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled.
>
> If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option
> enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
> **
>
> So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000
> or later domain that as no use or need for WINS?
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> www.eaglemds.com
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> 
>
> From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk]
>
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: WINS question
>
>
> If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable
> NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses
> NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure.
>
> Joe Tiedeman
> Web Server and Security Administrator
> Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
> 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ
>
> T 01242 211167  F 01242 211122  W www.hesa.ac.uk<http://www.hesa.ac.uk/>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
>
> Sen

RE: WINS question

[Michael B. Smith]

*bow*

Thanks!

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority :)

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx


From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

I am with you 100%.
Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 - no WINS anywhere.

Here's a good little read on it:
http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm




From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not 
have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that 
required it?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck 
mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now that 
Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are 
mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Really?

I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later 
domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US

By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied 
and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties)

*
Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable 
NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) 
server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the 
value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP 
option.

When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by 
default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by 
the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration 
lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by 
the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or 
disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not 
provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled.

If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables 
NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
**

So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or 
later domain that as no use or need for WINS?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com<http://www.eaglemds.com>
jra...@eaglemds.com<mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>

From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk<mailto:joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS 
until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in 
part of the joining procedure.

Joe Tiedeman
Web Server and Security Administrator
Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ
T 01242 211167  F 01242 211122  W 
www.hesa.ac.uk<http://www.hesa.ac.uk><http://www.hesa.ac.uk/>



From: Christopher Bodnar 
[mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>]
Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WINS question

If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP 
configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the 
client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration 
process.  My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, 
it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on 
this.

Thank you,


Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and 
any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, 
confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of 
this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, 
dissemination, dist

Re: WINS question

[Steven Peck]

errr
disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP  <-- we uncheck that box and do not add a WINs
server, then we join the domain.  AD2008r2 currently but we've done this for
a year now.

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

> So, you specifically disable WINS on your client machines before joining
> them to the domain, correct?
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> www.eaglemds.com
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> 
> From: Steven Peck [sep...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:15 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: WINS question
>
> We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now
> that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients
> are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.
>
> Steven Peck
> http://www.blkmtn.org
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> jra...@eaglemds.com<mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
> Really?
>
> I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or
> later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US
>
> By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured:
> (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network
> properties)
>
> *
> Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or
> disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration
> Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is
> provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft
> vendor-specific DHCP option.
>
> When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by
> default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided
> by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and
> configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option
> is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether
> NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT)
> DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled.
>
> If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option
> enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
> **
>
> So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000
> or later domain that as no use or need for WINS?
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> www.eaglemds.com<http://www.eaglemds.com>
> jra...@eaglemds.com<mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>
> 
> From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk<mailto:joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk
> >]
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WINS question
>
> If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable
> NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses
> NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure.
>
> Joe Tiedeman
> Web Server and Security Administrator
> Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
> 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ
> T 01242 211167  F 01242 211122  W www.hesa.ac.uk<http://www.hesa.ac.uk><
> http://www.hesa.ac.uk/>
>
>
> 
> From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com christopher_bod...@glic.com>]
> Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: WINS question
>
> If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP
> configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the
> client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration
> process.  My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS
> server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees
> with me on this.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Chris Bodnar, MCSE
> Technical Support III
> Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
> Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
> Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>
> Phone: 610-807-6459
> Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message,
> and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged,
> confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader
> of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any
> use

RE: WINS question

[Free, Bob]

Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority :)

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx


From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

I am with you 100%.
Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 - no WINS anywhere.

Here's a good little read on it:
http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm




From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not 
have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that 
required it?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck 
mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now that 
Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are 
mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Really?

I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later 
domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US

By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied 
and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties)

*
Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable 
NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) 
server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the 
value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP 
option.

When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by 
default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by 
the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration 
lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by 
the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or 
disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not 
provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled.

If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables 
NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
**

So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or 
later domain that as no use or need for WINS?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com<http://www.eaglemds.com>
jra...@eaglemds.com<mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>

From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk<mailto:joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS 
until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in 
part of the joining procedure.

Joe Tiedeman
Web Server and Security Administrator
Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ
T 01242 211167  F 01242 211122  W 
www.hesa.ac.uk<http://www.hesa.ac.uk><http://www.hesa.ac.uk/>



From: Christopher Bodnar 
[mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>]
Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WINS question

If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP 
configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the 
client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration 
process.  My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, 
it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on 
this.

Thank you,


Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and 
any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, 
confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of 
this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, 
dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is 
strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify 
the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any 
attachments. Thank you.

~ Finally, p

RE: WINS question

[David Mazzaccaro]

I am with you 100%.

Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 - no WINS anywhere.

 

Here's a good little read on it:

http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm

 

 

 

 

From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

 

Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and
do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in
Exchange 2003 that required it?

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck  wrote:

We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now
that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook
clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 wrote:

Really?

I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or
later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US

By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured:
(copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of
network properties)

*
Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or
disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration
Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP
is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT)
Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option.

When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by
default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally
provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and
configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP
option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option
determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS
over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server,
NetBT is enabled.

If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option
enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
**

So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to
2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS?


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com
jra...@eaglemds.com


From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: WINS question


If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable
NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL
uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure.

Joe Tiedeman
Web Server and Security Administrator
Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ

T 01242 211167  F 01242 211122  W www.hesa.ac.uk<http://www.hesa.ac.uk/>




From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WINS question

If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the
TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified,
does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the
registration process.  My thought is that the client still registers
with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a
colleague disagrees with me on this.

Thank you,


Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003 - This
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Re: WINS question

[Mike Sullivan]

Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do
not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange
2003 that required it?

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck  wrote:

> We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now
> that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients
> are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.
>
> Steven Peck
> http://www.blkmtn.org
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>
>> Really?
>>
>> I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or
>> later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US
>>
>> By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured:
>> (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network
>> properties)
>>
>> *
>> Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or
>> disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration
>> Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is
>> provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft
>> vendor-specific DHCP option.
>>
>> When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by
>> default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided
>> by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and
>> configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option
>> is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether
>> NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT)
>> DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled.
>>
>> If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option
>> enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
>> **
>>
>> So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000
>> or later domain that as no use or need for WINS?
>>
>> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>> Technology Coordinator
>> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
>> www.eaglemds.com
>> jra...@eaglemds.com
>> 
>> From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: WINS question
>>
>> If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable
>> NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses
>> NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure.
>>
>> Joe Tiedeman
>> Web Server and Security Administrator
>> Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
>> 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ
>> T 01242 211167  F 01242 211122  W www.hesa.ac.uk<http://www.hesa.ac.uk/>
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
>> Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: WINS question
>>
>> If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the
>> TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does
>> the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the
>> registration process.  My thought is that the client still registers with
>> the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague
>> disagrees with me on this.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> Chris Bodnar, MCSE
>> Technical Support III
>> Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
>> Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
>> Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
>> Phone: 610-807-6459
>> Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message,
>> and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged,
>> confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader
>> of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any
>> use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message
>> is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please
>> notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and
>> any attachments. Thank you.
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
&

RE: WINS question

[Joe Tiedeman]

We 99% sure the last time I tried to join a 2008 box to our 2008 domain,
it wouldn't join unless I had netbios ticked even when specifically
using the DNS name of the domain, but I could be wrong. My brain is mush
this afternoon and I guess I could have used the netbios name of the
domain instead.

I may have just engaged fingers before brain, so feel free to ignore me!


Joe Tiedeman
Web Server and Security Administrator
Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ
T 01242 211167  F 01242 211122  W www.hesa.ac.uk

-Original Message-
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: 27 January 2011 17:00
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

Really?

I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or
later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US

By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured:
(copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of
network properties)

*
Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or
disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration
Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP
is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT)
Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option.

When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by
default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally
provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and
configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP
option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option
determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS
over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server,
NetBT is enabled.

If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option
enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
**

So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to
2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com
jra...@eaglemds.com

From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable
NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL
uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure.

Joe Tiedeman
Web Server and Security Administrator
Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ
T 01242 211167  F 01242 211122  W www.hesa.ac.uk<http://www.hesa.ac.uk/>



From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WINS question

If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the
TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified,
does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the
registration process.  My thought is that the client still registers
with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a
colleague disagrees with me on this.

Thank you,


Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003 - This
message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is
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RE: WINS question

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

So, you specifically disable WINS on your client machines before joining them 
to the domain, correct?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com
jra...@eaglemds.com

From: Steven Peck [sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now that 
Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are 
mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Really?

I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later 
domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US

By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied 
and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties)

*
Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable 
NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) 
server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the 
value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP 
option.

When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by 
default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by 
the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration 
lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by 
the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or 
disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not 
provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled.

If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables 
NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
**

So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or 
later domain that as no use or need for WINS?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
www.eaglemds.com<http://www.eaglemds.com>
jra...@eaglemds.com<mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>

From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk<mailto:joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk>]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS 
until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in 
part of the joining procedure.

Joe Tiedeman
Web Server and Security Administrator
Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ
T 01242 211167  F 01242 211122  W 
www.hesa.ac.uk<http://www.hesa.ac.uk><http://www.hesa.ac.uk/>



From: Christopher Bodnar 
[mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>]
Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WINS question

If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP 
configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the 
client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration 
process.  My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, 
it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on 
this.

Thank you,


Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and 
any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, 
confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of 
this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, 
dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is 
strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify 
the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any 
attachments. Thank you.

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Re: WINS question

[Steven Peck]

We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now that
Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are
mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

> Really?
>
> I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or
> later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US
>
> By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured:
> (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network
> properties)
>
> *
> Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or
> disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration
> Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is
> provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft
> vendor-specific DHCP option.
>
> When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by
> default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided
> by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and
> configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option
> is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether
> NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT)
> DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled.
>
> If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option
> enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
> **
>
> So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000
> or later domain that as no use or need for WINS?
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> www.eaglemds.com
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> 
> From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WINS question
>
> If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable
> NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses
> NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure.
>
> Joe Tiedeman
> Web Server and Security Administrator
> Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
> 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ
> T 01242 211167  F 01242 211122  W www.hesa.ac.uk<http://www.hesa.ac.uk/>
>
>
> 
> From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
> Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: WINS question
>
> If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP
> configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the
> client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration
> process.  My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS
> server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees
> with me on this.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Chris Bodnar, MCSE
> Technical Support III
> Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
> Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
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RE: WINS question

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Really?

I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later 
domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US

By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied 
and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties)

*
Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable 
NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) 
server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the 
value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP 
option.

When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by 
default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by 
the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration 
lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by 
the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or 
disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not 
provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled.

If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables 
NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
**

So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or 
later domain that as no use or need for WINS?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
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From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WINS question

If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS 
until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in 
part of the joining procedure.

Joe Tiedeman
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From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WINS question

If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP 
configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the 
client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration 
process.  My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, 
it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on 
this.

Thank you,


Chris Bodnar, MCSE
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Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
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RE: WINS question

[Joe Tiedeman]

If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable
NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL
uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure.
 
Joe Tiedeman
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From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WINS question


If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the
TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified,
does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the
registration process.  My thought is that the client still registers
with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a
colleague disagrees with me on this. 

Thank you, 


Chris Bodnar, MCSE
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Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
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RE: WINS question

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

+1

Also, do you REALLY care about WINS or NetBIOS? Unless you have nodes that you 
need to get to, via host name, which are NOT joined to a Windows 2000/2003/2008 
domain, I do not believe you need either function. AD integrated DNS should 
function just fine without it.

The underlying design of WINS uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. This article may be of 
interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Internet_Name_Service

But don't take my word for it. Go with what ASB suggests and test it. :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
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From: Andrew S. Baker [asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WINS question

This seems easy enough to test...


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Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...




On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Christopher Bodnar 
mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>> wrote:
If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP 
configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the 
client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration 
process.  My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, 
it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on 
this.

Thank you,


Chris Bodnar, MCSE

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Re: WINS question

[Andrew S. Baker]

This seems easy enough to test...


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On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Christopher Bodnar <
christopher_bod...@glic.com> wrote:

> If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP
> configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the
> client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration
> process.  My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS
> server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees
> with me on this.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Chris Bodnar, MCSE
>

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RE: Wins Question

[Mikelist \(E-mail\)]

Title: Message



upromote work great
 
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  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 
  2001 3:59 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Wins 
  Question
  Thanks -
   
  Need 
  a another BDC anyway - my only other one BDC is running on Exchange (not by my 
  choice) and I plan on rebuilding it.
   
  I 
  was thinking of using one of the third party utilities to demote it to a 
  member server but I am chicken.
   
  Also 
  plan on running my blackberry service on it (when ever I can finally get 
  it!)
   
  Jim
   
   
  
-Original Message-From: Flanagan, Kevin 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 
12:36 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Wins 
Question
The second WINS server does not need to be a Domain Controller, in 
fact there is such a thing as too many Domain Controllers.  If you need 
a WINS server that's good, but only make servers for any function because 
you need to.
 
 
 
KISS
 
 
+---+ 
Kevin Flanagan 
C/S Planning Engineer 
III I/T 
Implementation Department Branch Banking & Trust Company 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 
116 MC: 
172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC  27604 Voice: 919-716-6209 

  
  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 
  2001 10:16 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Wins Question
  thanks all
   
  Gonna build a new BDC tomorrow and put wins on 
  it
   
  
-Original Message-From: Ayers, Diane 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 
6:55 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Wins 
    Question
No. One is all you would need but have two for 
redundancy

  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 
  10, 2001 5:22 PMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Wins 
  Question
  Hey Folks - 
  Quick question -  We have three different subnets 
  - do I need a WINS server on each subnet? 
  TIA 
  Jim 
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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RE: Wins Question

[Zangara, Jim]

Title: Message



Thanks 
-
 
Need a 
another BDC anyway - my only other one BDC is running on Exchange (not by my 
choice) and I plan on rebuilding it.
 
I was 
thinking of using one of the third party utilities to demote it to a member 
server but I am chicken.
 
Also 
plan on running my blackberry service on it (when ever I can finally get 
it!)
 
Jim
 
 

  -Original Message-From: Flanagan, Kevin 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 
  12:36 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Wins 
  Question
  The 
  second WINS server does not need to be a Domain Controller, in fact there is 
  such a thing as too many Domain Controllers.  If you need a WINS server 
  that's good, but only make servers for any function because you need 
  to.
   
   
   
  KISS
   
   
  +---+ 
  Kevin Flanagan 
  C/S Planning Engineer 
  III I/T 
  Implementation Department Branch Banking & Trust Company 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 
  116 MC: 
  172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC  27604 Voice: 919-716-6209 
  

-Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 
2001 10:16 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Wins Question
thanks all
 
Gonna build a new BDC tomorrow and put wins on it
 

  -Original Message-From: Ayers, Diane 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 
  6:55 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Wins 
  Question
  No. One is all you would need but have two for 
  redundancy
  
-Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 
10, 2001 5:22 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: 
Wins Question
Hey Folks - 
Quick question -  We have three different subnets - 
do I need a WINS server on each subnet? 
TIA 
Jim 
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RE: Wins Question

[Zangara, Jim]

Title: Message



Thanks 
-
 
Need a 
another BDC anyway - my only other one BDC is running on Exchange (not by my 
choice) and I plan on rebuilding it.
 
I was 
thinking of using one of the third party utilities to demote it to a member 
server but I am chicken.
 
Also 
plan on running my blackberry service on it (when ever I can finally get 
it!)
 
Jim
 
 

  -Original Message-From: Flanagan, Kevin 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 
  12:36 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Wins 
  Question
  The 
  second WINS server does not need to be a Domain Controller, in fact there is 
  such a thing as too many Domain Controllers.  If you need a WINS server 
  that's good, but only make servers for any function because you need 
  to.
   
   
   
  KISS
   
   
  +---+ 
  Kevin Flanagan 
  C/S Planning Engineer 
  III I/T 
  Implementation Department Branch Banking & Trust Company 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 
  116 MC: 
  172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC  27604 Voice: 919-716-6209 
  

-Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 
2001 10:16 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Wins Question
thanks all
 
Gonna build a new BDC tomorrow and put wins on it
 

  -Original Message-From: Ayers, Diane 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 
  6:55 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Wins 
  Question
  No. One is all you would need but have two for 
  redundancy
  
-Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 
10, 2001 5:22 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: 
Wins Question
Hey Folks - 
Quick question -  We have three different subnets - 
do I need a WINS server on each subnet? 
TIA 
Jim 
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RE: Wins Question

[Flanagan, Kevin]

Title: Message



The 
second WINS server does not need to be a Domain Controller, in fact there is 
such a thing as too many Domain Controllers.  If you need a WINS server 
that's good, but only make servers for any function because you need 
to.
 
 
 
KISS
 
 
+---+ 
Kevin Flanagan 
C/S Planning Engineer 
III I/T 
Implementation Department Branch Banking & Trust Company 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 116 
MC: 172-85-01-00 
Raleigh, NC  
27604 Voice: 
919-716-6209 

  
  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 
  2001 10:16 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Wins 
  Question
  thanks all
   
  Gonna build a new BDC tomorrow and put wins on it
   
  
-Original Message-From: Ayers, Diane 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 6:55 
PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Wins 
    Question
No. One is all you would need but have two for 
redundancy

  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 10, 
  2001 5:22 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Wins 
  Question
  Hey Folks - 
  Quick question -  We have three different subnets - 
  do I need a WINS server on each subnet? 
  TIA 
  Jim 
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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RE: Wins Question

[Dan_Rembolt]

If the subnets are local, no...  if they are separated by wan links then
I'd put one at each location, unless it was a really small location with
less than 30 users.   If you have Wins resolution going over wan links you
could get failures just due to the lack of bandwidth.


   

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 >Quick question -  We have three different subnets - do I need a WINS
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RE: Wins Question

[Zangara, Jim]

Title: Wins Question



thanks 
all
 
Gonna 
build a new BDC tomorrow and put wins on it
 

  -Original Message-From: Ayers, Diane 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 6:55 
  PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Wins 
  Question
  No. One is all you would need but have two for 
  redundancy
  
-Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 10, 
2001 5:22 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Wins 
Question
Hey Folks - 
Quick question -  We have three different subnets - do 
I need a WINS server on each subnet? 
TIA 
Jim 
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RE: Wins Question

[Ayers, Diane]

Title: Wins Question



No. One is all you would need but have two for 
redundancy

  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 
  5:22 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Wins 
  Question
  Hey Folks - 
  Quick question -  We have three different subnets - do I 
  need a WINS server on each subnet? 
  TIA 
  Jim 
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RE: Wins Question

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Title: Message



 >Quick question 
-  We have three different subnets - do I need a WINS server on each 
subnet?  
 
 
We use 
2 for our 18 sub nets (NT4) 
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