Re: PMD integration
Hi Piotr, that right now it is checking only main code (without plugins?). Yes, that's correct -- I forgot to mention that. PMD target is hooked up with tests and stops the build if something fails. I thought the core code should be this strict; for plugins we can have more relaxed rules (in another target or even in the same one). That's again up to you guys. Dawid P.S. Tom Copeland has already fixed the bug I mentioned in the patch. Quite impressive bugfix turnaround, isn't it. :) Piotr Kosiorowski wrote: P. Dawid Weiss wrote: All right, I though I'd give it a go since I have a spare few minutes. Jura is off, so I made the patches available here -- http://ophelia.cs.put.poznan.pl/~dweiss/nutch/ pmd.patch is the build file patch and libraries (binaries are in a separate zip file pmd-ext.zip). pmd-fixes.patch fixes the current core code to go through pmd smoothly. I removed obvious unused code, but left FIXME comments where I wasn't sure if the removal can cause side effects (in these places PMD warnings are suppressed with NOPMD comments). I also discovered a bug in PMD... eh... nothing's perfect. https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=479921aid=1465574group_id=56262 D. Piotr Kosiorowski wrote: +1 - I offer my help - we can coordinate it and I can do a part of work. I will also try to commit your patches quickly. Piotr On 4/6/06, Dawid Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other options (raised on the Hadoop list) are Checkstyle: PMD seems to be the best choice for an Apache project and they all seem to perform at a similar level. Anything that generates a lot of false positives is bad: it either causes us to skip analysis of lots of files, or ignore the warnings. Skipping the JavaCC-generated classes is reasonable, but I'm wary of skipping much else. I thought a bit about this. The warnings PMD may actually make sense to fix. Take a look at maxDoc here: class LuceneQueryOptimizer { private static class LimitExceeded extends RuntimeException { private int maxDoc; public LimitExceeded(int maxDoc) { this.maxDoc = maxDoc; } } ... maxDoc is accessed from LuceneQueryOptimizer which requires a synthetic accessor in LimitExceeded. It also may look confusing because you declare a field private to a class, but use it from the outside... changing declarations to something like this: class LuceneQueryOptimizer { private static class LimitExceeded extends RuntimeException { final int maxDoc; public LimitExceeded(int maxDoc) { this.maxDoc = maxDoc; } } ... removes the warning and also seems to make more sense (note that package scope of maxDoc doesn't really expose it much more than before because the entire class is private). So... if you agree to change existing warnings as shown above (there's not that many) then integrating PMD with a set of sensible rules may help detecting bad smells in the future (I couldn't resist -- it really is called like this in software engineering :). I only used dead code detection ruleset for now, other rulesets can be checked and we will see if they help or quite the contrary. If developers agree to the above I'll create a patch together with what needs to be fixed to cleanly compile. Otherwise I see little sense in integrating PMD. D.
Re: Add .settings to svn:ignore on root Nutch folder?
My feeling was simply that the closest we are to Nutch-1.0, the more be need some QA metrics (for us and for nutch users). No? I absolutely agree Jérôme, really. It's just that developers usually tend to hook up dozens of QA plugins and never look at what they output (that's the usual scenario with Maven-built projects that I observed). What I think we need is a QA _person_ rather than just tools. But I'm always a bit skeptical, don't take it personally ;) D.
Re: PMD integration
that right now it is checking only main code (without plugins?). Yes, that's correct -- I forgot to mention that. PMD target is hooked up with tests and stops the build if something fails. I thought the core code should be this strict; for plugins we can have more relaxed rules -1 Since plugins provides a lot of Nutch functionalities (without any plugin, Nutch provides no service), I think that plugins code should be as strict as the core code. Thanks Jérôme -- http://motrech.free.fr/ http://www.frutch.org/
Re: Add .settings to svn:ignore on root Nutch folder?
My feeling was simply that the closest we are to Nutch-1.0, the more be need some QA metrics (for us and for nutch users). No? I absolutely agree Jérôme, really. It's just that developers usually tend to hook up dozens of QA plugins and never look at what they output (that's the usual scenario with Maven-built projects that I observed). Yes, that's right...;-) What I think we need is a QA _person_ rather than just tools. But I'm always a bit skeptical, don't take it personally ;) I absolutely agree Dawid. But I don't think Nutch has enought human resources to have a QA person. I will make a try to integrate a code coverage tool, and see if it gives us some good indices on unit tests needed efforts. Jérôme -- http://motrech.free.fr/ http://www.frutch.org/
Re: PMD integration
I do agree with Jarome - plugins should be checked too. I would like to integrate PMD for core and plugins over the weekend based on the Dawid's work - I will make it totally separate target (so test do not depend on it). The goal is to allow other developers to play with pmd easily but at the same time I do not want the build to be affected. I would like also to look at possibility to generate crossreferenced HTML code from Nutch sources as it looks like pmd can use it and violation reports would be much easier to read. P, On 4/7/06, Jérôme Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that right now it is checking only main code (without plugins?). Yes, that's correct -- I forgot to mention that. PMD target is hooked up with tests and stops the build if something fails. I thought the core code should be this strict; for plugins we can have more relaxed rules -1 Since plugins provides a lot of Nutch functionalities (without any plugin, Nutch provides no service), I think that plugins code should be as strict as the core code. Thanks Jérôme -- http://motrech.free.fr/ http://www.frutch.org/
Re: PMD integration
I will make it totally separate target (so test do not depend on it). +1 The goal is to allow other developers to play with pmd easily but at the same time I do not want the build to be affected. +1 I would like also to look at possibility to generate crossreferenced HTML code from Nutch sources as it looks like pmd can use it and violation reports would be much easier to read. +1 Thanks Piotr (and Dawid too of course) Jérôme -- http://motrech.free.fr/ http://www.frutch.org/
CrawlDbReducer - selecting data for DB update
Hi, The more I look at CrawlDbReducer the less I like the method it uses to select the most recent records. This selection is primarily made in the while() loop in CrawlDbReducer:45. My main objection is that selecting the highest value (meaning most recent) relies on the fact that values of status codes in CrawlDatum are ordered according to their meaning, and they are treated as a sort of state machine. However, adding new states is very difficult, if they should have values lower than STATUS_FETCH_GONE, as it leads to breaking backwards-compatibility with older segment data. Adding status codes with higher values may also break things here, because a CrawlDatum with the highest code would not be necessarily the most recent. I encountered this problem first when adding the signature framework, fortunately there was one unused value (0) at that time, so I could add CrawlDatum.STATUS_SIGNATURE without breaking the assumptions in CrawlDbReducer. However, now things become more difficult: * we need another status code for newly discovered pages discovered as a result of redirection (see the thread on Meta-refresh). If we add this status as e.g. STATUS_FETCH_REDIRECT = 8, then the logic in CrawlDbReducer will break. * we need something to mark pages as being on a fetchlist, to be updated soon (this is to support multiple parallel generate/fetch/update cycles). A new status code would do fine for this purpose (although we need an expiry timer for that too). Arguably, we could use the same trick that we used in 0.7 (moving next fetch time 1 week into the future), but I'm not sure yet how it would play with the adaptive fetch patches, which manipulate this value too... I could use a hack in the meantime: status values are for now all below 128, we could use the upper nibble for these additional flags, and mask them out with 0x0f. -- Best regards, Andrzej Bialecki ___. ___ ___ ___ _ _ __ [__ || __|__/|__||\/| Information Retrieval, Semantic Web ___|||__|| \| || | Embedded Unix, System Integration http://www.sigram.com Contact: info at sigram dot com
Re: PMD integration
I do agree with Jarome - plugins should be checked too. This basically means modifying the fileset in the pmd task. Shouldn't be too difficult to include all plugin sources with a single include statement. I will make it totally separate target (so test do not depend on it). That was actually Doug's idea (and I agree with it) to stop the build file if PMD complains about something. It's similar to testing -- if your tests fail, the entire build file fails. The goal is to allow other developers to play with pmd easily but at the same time I do not want the build to be affected. Maybe in the initial phase, but I'd strongly recommend integrating it in the main build. PMD is quite fast and doesn't add much delay to the process. I would like also to look at possibility to generate crossreferenced HTML code from Nutch sources as it looks like pmd can use it and violation reports would be much easier to read. Yes, it's possible but I didn't play with it. I can't do it today, but maybe during the weekend. If you're faster than me, Piotr, let me know so that I don't waste the time. Thanks. D.
Re: PMD integration
I will make it totally separate target (so test do not depend on it). That was actually Doug's idea (and I agree with it) to stop the build file if PMD complains about something. It's similar to testing -- if your tests fail, the entire build file fails. I totally agree with it - but I want to switch it on for others to play first, and when we agree on rules we want to use make it obligatory. Piotr
Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)
Chris Mattmann wrote: +1 for a release sooner rather than later. I think this is a good plan. There's no reason we can't do another release in a month. If it is back-compatbible we can call it 0.8.x and if it's incompatible we can call it 0.9.0. I'm going to make a Hadoop 0.1.1 release today that can be included in Nutch 0.8.0. (With Hadoop we're going to aim for monthly releases, with potential bugfix releases between when serious bugs are found. The big bug in Hadoop 0.1.0 is http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-117.) So we could aim for a Nutch 0.8.0 release sometime next week. Does that work for folks? Piotr, would you like to make this release, or should I? Doug
Re: CrawlDbReducer - selecting data for DB update
Andrzej Bialecki wrote: This selection is primarily made in the while() loop in CrawlDbReducer:45. My main objection is that selecting the highest value (meaning most recent) relies on the fact that values of status codes in CrawlDatum are ordered according to their meaning, and they are treated as a sort of state machine. Yes, that was the design, that status codes are also priorities. However, adding new states is very difficult, if they should have values lower than STATUS_FETCH_GONE, as it leads to breaking backwards-compatibility with older segment data. We can use CrawlDatum.VERSION to insert new status codes back-compatibly. Perhaps we should change the codes to, instead of [0, 1, 2, ...] to be [0, 10, 20, 30, ...] so that we can more easily introduce new values? To update status codes from older versions we simply multiply by 10. Would something like that work? Or we could have a separate table mapping status codes to priority. Doug
Re: PMD integration
Piotr Kosiorowski wrote: I will make it totally separate target (so test do not depend on it). That was actually Doug's idea (and I agree with it) to stop the build file if PMD complains about something. It's similar to testing -- if your tests fail, the entire build file fails. I totally agree with it - but I want to switch it on for others to play first, and when we agree on rules we want to use make it obligatory. So we start out comitting it as an independent target, and then add it to the test target? Is that the plan? If so, +1. Doug
Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)
+1 On 4/7/06 10:20 AM, Doug Cutting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Mattmann wrote: +1 for a release sooner rather than later. I think this is a good plan. There's no reason we can't do another release in a month. If it is back-compatbible we can call it 0.8.x and if it's incompatible we can call it 0.9.0. I'm going to make a Hadoop 0.1.1 release today that can be included in Nutch 0.8.0. (With Hadoop we're going to aim for monthly releases, with potential bugfix releases between when serious bugs are found. The big bug in Hadoop 0.1.0 is http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-117.) So we could aim for a Nutch 0.8.0 release sometime next week. Does that work for folks? Piotr, would you like to make this release, or should I? Doug __ Chris A. Mattmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Staff Member Modeling and Data Management Systems Section (387) Data Management Systems and Technologies Group _ Jet Propulsion LaboratoryPasadena, CA Office: 171-266BMailstop: 171-246 ___ Disclaimer: The opinions presented within are my own and do not reflect those of either NASA, JPL, or the California Institute of Technology.
Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)
Doug Cutting wrote: Piotr, would you like to make this release, or should I? I would prefer you would do it this time - I am not sure if I can find some time next week. I would like to do some things before release though: 1) Commit clustering patch from Dawid (I took it over from Andrzej). 2) Commit pmd stuff as optional for this release. We will make it required later. 3) Review tutorial - I saw some posts on user list with claims about errors so I would like to check it before release. 4) It would be good to go through JIRA issues before - but I am not sure if I will manage it. Any comments? Regards Piotr
Re: Patch to remove Nutch formating from logs
Hello Christopher, I personally do not like combining logging with severe error handling but it is one of the features of Nutch for some time and I do not think it causes infinite loops in normal installations. Changing it as we are preparing to release a new version is not a good idea in my opinion. But I will be happy if we change the way it is handled in future. So for now -1. Piotr Christopher Burkey wrote: Did anyone get this email? Can a commiter acknowledge this has been received? We are have been having problems with infinite loops caused by Nutch. My theory is that the problem is related to using the log API to track severe errors. This patch is a only a few lines of code and should be easy to insert. Please let me know if it has been received and what the feedback is. Christopher Burkey wrote: Hello, Here is a patch to change org.apache.nutch.util.LogFormatter to not insert itself as the default handler for the system. I have been using Nutch for a year and have been waiting for a version that I can embed into OpenEdit. The problem has been that Nutch inserts itself as the formatter for the Java log system and that interferes with OpenEdit logging. diff -Naur ../java/org/apache/nutch/util/LogFormatter.java java/org/apache/nutch/util/LogFormatter.java --- ../java/org/apache/nutch/util/LogFormatter.java2006-03-31 13:40:50.0 -0500 +++ java/org/apache/nutch/util/LogFormatter.java2006-04-05 16:27:59.0 -0400 @@ -16,13 +16,23 @@ package org.apache.nutch.util; -import java.util.logging.*; -import java.io.*; -import java.text.*; +import java.io.ByteArrayOutputStream; +import java.io.IOException; +import java.io.PrintStream; +import java.io.PrintWriter; +import java.io.StringWriter; +import java.text.FieldPosition; +import java.text.SimpleDateFormat; import java.util.Date; - -/** Prints just the date and the log message. */ - +import java.util.logging.Formatter; +import java.util.logging.Level; +import java.util.logging.LogRecord; +import java.util.logging.Logger; + +/** Prints just the date and the log message. + * This was also used to stop processing as nutch crawls a web site + * [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed this code to use a LogWrapper class to catch severe errors + * */ public class LogFormatter extends Formatter { private static final String FORMAT = yyMMdd HHmmss; private static final String NEWLINE = System.getProperty(line.separator); @@ -35,20 +45,27 @@ private static boolean showTime = true; private static boolean showThreadIDs = false; + protected static LogFormatter sharedformatter = new LogFormatter(); + protected static SevereLogHandler sharedhandler = new SevereLogHandler(sharedformatter); + + /* // install when this class is loaded static { Handler[] handlers = LogFormatter.getLogger().getHandlers(); for (int i = 0; i handlers.length; i++) { - handlers[i].setFormatter(new LogFormatter()); + handlers[i].setFormatter(sharedformatter); handlers[i].setLevel(Level.FINEST); } } - + */ /** Gets a logger and, as a side effect, installs this as the default * formatter. */ public static Logger getLogger(String name) { // just referencing this class installs it -return Logger.getLogger(name); +Logger logr = Logger.getLogger(name); +logr.addHandler(sharedhandler); + +return logr; } /** When true, time is logged with each entry. */ @@ -60,7 +77,10 @@ public static void setShowThreadIDs(boolean showThreadIDs) { LogFormatter.showThreadIDs = showThreadIDs; } - + public void setLoggedSevere( boolean inSevere ) + { + loggedSevere = inSevere; + } /** * Format the given LogRecord. * @param record the log record to be formatted. diff -Naur ../java/org/apache/nutch/util/SevereLogHandler.java java/org/apache/nutch/util/SevereLogHandler.java --- ../java/org/apache/nutch/util/SevereLogHandler.java1969-12-31 19:00:00.0 -0500 +++ java/org/apache/nutch/util/SevereLogHandler.java2006-04-05 16:29:20.0 -0400 @@ -0,0 +1,46 @@ +/* + * Created on Apr 5, 2006 + */ +package org.apache.nutch.util; + +import java.util.logging.Handler; +import java.util.logging.Level; +import java.util.logging.LogRecord; + +public class SevereLogHandler extends Handler +{ +protected LogFormatter fieldNutchFormatter; + +public SevereLogHandler(LogFormatter inFormatter) +{ +setNutchFormatter(inFormatter); +} + +protected LogFormatter getNutchFormatter() +{ +return fieldNutchFormatter; +} + +protected void setNutchFormatter(LogFormatter inNutchFormatter) +{ +fieldNutchFormatter = inNutchFormatter; +} + +public void publish(LogRecord inRecord) +{ +if ( inRecord.getLevel().intValue() == Level.SEVERE.intValue()) +{ +
Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)
Doug Cutting wrote: Chris Mattmann wrote: +1 for a release sooner rather than later. I think this is a good plan. There's no reason we can't do another release in a month. If it is back-compatbible we can call it 0.8.x and if it's incompatible we can call it 0.9.0. I'm going to make a Hadoop 0.1.1 release today that can be included in Nutch 0.8.0. (With Hadoop we're going to aim for monthly releases, with potential bugfix releases between when serious bugs are found. The big bug in Hadoop 0.1.0 is http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-117.) So we could aim for a Nutch 0.8.0 release sometime next week. Does that work for folks? Do you guys have any additional insights / suggestions whether NUTCH-240 and/or NUTCH-61 should be included in this release? -- Best regards, Andrzej Bialecki ___. ___ ___ ___ _ _ __ [__ || __|__/|__||\/| Information Retrieval, Semantic Web ___|||__|| \| || | Embedded Unix, System Integration http://www.sigram.com Contact: info at sigram dot com
Re: [Proposal] New Lucene sub-project
Hi Jérôme, I found your idea very interesting. I will be interested to contribute to the Parse Plugins Framework. I have developed similar one using Lucene. The project name is Lius. If you are interested please let me know. On 4/7/06, Jérôme Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, While chatting with Chris Mattmann, it seems to be evident to us that there is a need for a new sub-project within Lucene. For now, Lucene's sub-projects used in Nutch are : 1. Lucene-java - The basis for search technology 2. Hadoop - The distributed computing platform 3. Nutch - The search engine that relies on Lucene and Hadoop. Since Nutch contains some value added pieces of code that focus on content analysis, we think it would be a good idea to split Nutch into a new sub-project based on content analysis manipulation. The components we have identified are : 1. MimeType Repository 2. Language Identifier 3. Content Signature (MD5Signature / TextProfileSignature / ...) (4. Generic Meta Data Infrastructure) (5. Charset Detector) (6. Parse Plugins Framework) The idea is to expose these pieces of codes into a standalone lib, since we are convinced they could be usefull in many other projects than Nutch. The benefits will be to have some code more widely used / tested / contributed. If this proposal is accepted, we have a candidate name for this new project: Tika (comes from my son ;-) ) Any comment is welcome. Jérôme
Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)
Hi Andrzej, On 4/7/06 12:18 PM, Andrzej Bialecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you guys have any additional insights / suggestions whether NUTCH-240 and/or NUTCH-61 should be included in this release? Looking at the JIRA popular issues pane for Nutch ( http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NUTCH?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin. system.project:popularissues-panel), I note that NUTCH-61 is the most popular issue right now with 7 votes. Additionally, NUTCH-240 shares the 3rd most votes (4) with NUTCH-134. So, all in all, there are 4 issues with = 4 votes in JIRA. Of those 4 issues, 3 of them all have attached patches in JIRA. Would it be safe to say that the committers should focus on committing NUTCH-61, NUTCh-240, and NUTCH-48, since these 3 issues all have attached patch files, and then freeze it for the 0.8.0 release? As for my own opinion, I recently downloaded and reviewed NUTCH-61, and really like the patch. +1 on my end. I haven't tried out NUTCH-240 yet, but it seems to be a logical extension point for Nutch to be able to plug in different scoring components. So, +1 from me. Cheers, Chris __ Chris A. Mattmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Staff Member Modeling and Data Management Systems Section (387) Data Management Systems and Technologies Group _ Jet Propulsion LaboratoryPasadena, CA Office: 171-266BMailstop: 171-246 ___ Disclaimer: The opinions presented within are my own and do not reflect those of either NASA, JPL, or the California Institute of Technology.
Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)
Do you guys have any additional insights / suggestions whether NUTCH-240 and/or NUTCH-61 should be included in this release? NUTCH-240 : I really like the idea, but for now, I agree with that is API is still ugly. I would like to help in the next weeks... So for me it should not be included in the 0.8 release... Regards Jérôme -- http://motrech.free.fr/ http://www.frutch.org/
[jira] Created: (NUTCH-245) XML Schemas for xml configuration files in conf directory
XML Schemas for xml configuration files in conf directory - Key: NUTCH-245 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NUTCH-245 Project: Nutch Type: New Feature Components: fetcher, indexer, ndfs, searcher, web gui Versions: 0.7.2, 0.7.1, 0.7, 0.6, 0.8-dev Environment: Power PC Dual Processor 2.0 Ghz, Mac OS X 10.4, although improvement is independent of environment Reporter: Chris A. Mattmann Assigned to: Chris A. Mattmann Priority: Minor Currently, the plugin.xml file does not have a DTD or XML Schema associated with it, and most people just go look at an existing plugin's plugin.xml file to determine what are the allowable elements, etc. There should be an explicit plugin DTD file that describes the plugin.xml file. I'll look at the code and attach a plugin.dtd file for the Nutch conf directory later today. This way, people can use the DTD file to automatically (using tools such as XMLSpy) generate plugin.xml files that can then be validated. I'm also going to post another issue regarding adding an addition to the ant target that builds the Nutch website. The addition to the ant target would copy the existing DTD files in $NUTCH_HOME/conf to the Nutch website ROOT. That way, we could then reference the DTD file in all the XML instance files by reference something like !DOCTYPE system http://lucene.apache.org/nutch/dtd/parse-plugins.dtd;, within the parse-plugins.xml, or similarly for the nutch-site.xml, or mime-types.xml file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)
Chris Mattmann wrote: opinion, I recently downloaded and reviewed NUTCH-61, and really like the patch. +1 on my end. I haven't tried out NUTCH-240 yet, but it seems to be a logical extension point for Nutch to be able to plug in different scoring components. So, +1 from me. Thanks for looking at this. NUTCH-240: the API has some warts, it would be nice to clean up the passScore* methods before committing it - but this may involve changing too much code that is not strictly related to this patch. NUTCH-61: I can commit this, it's been lightly tested on a dozen or so cycles of a small sample of urls. However, for some settings I've seen cases when AdaptiveFetchPolicy would go haywire and increase fetchInterval to infinity or to zero. So, this is really about whether people want to be blessed with this patch whether they need it or not, and weed out bugs as we go, or perhaps continue waiting for some volunteers to test it on a larger scale / more cycles. -- Best regards, Andrzej Bialecki ___. ___ ___ ___ _ _ __ [__ || __|__/|__||\/| Information Retrieval, Semantic Web ___|||__|| \| || | Embedded Unix, System Integration http://www.sigram.com Contact: info at sigram dot com
Re: PMD integration
Committed. One can run the pmd checks by 'ant pmd'. It produces file with html report in build directory. It covers core nutch and plugins. Currently it uses unusedcode ruleset checks only but one can uncomment other rulesets in build.xml (or add another ones according to pmd documentation). I would like to add cross-referenced source so report is easier to read in near feature. I have two additional questions for developers: 1) Should we check test sources with pmd? 2) We do have oro 2-0.7 in dependencies (I think urlfilter and similar things). PMD requires oro - 2.0.8. Do you think we can upgrade (as far as I know 2.0.7 and 2.0.8 should be compatible)? We would have only one oro jar than. So happy PMD-ing, Piotr Doug Cutting wrote: Piotr Kosiorowski wrote: I will make it totally separate target (so test do not depend on it). That was actually Doug's idea (and I agree with it) to stop the build file if PMD complains about something. It's similar to testing -- if your tests fail, the entire build file fails. I totally agree with it - but I want to switch it on for others to play first, and when we agree on rules we want to use make it obligatory. So we start out comitting it as an independent target, and then add it to the test target? Is that the plan? If so, +1. Doug
web ui improvement
I have recently been working with refactoring the web gui to be a more extendable and manageable by replacing the spaghetti jsp ui with and ui layer done with struts and tiles. By doing so it will be much more easy to provide for example a plugin(extension) that will just change the layout of the search, provide new ui functionality (like the did you mean feature) in a form of plugin etc.. I know there are people who think that a plain xml interface is good enough for all but I would like to give this new architecture a try. As part of the required functionality of the 0.8 release discussion on some other thread my opinion is to postbone any new ui functionality (for example NUTCH-48) until the new architecture is in place (if it is decided to be applied). If people are interested to see this work in progress I will prepare some sort of demo next week (still some work to do before it will reach a form of a patch). -- Sami Siren
Re: web ui improvement
Sami Siren wrote: I know there are people who think that a plain xml interface is good enough for all but I would like to give this new architecture a try. I think this would be a great addition. The XML has a lot of uses, but we should include a good native, extensible, skinnable search UI. +1 As part of the required functionality of the 0.8 release discussion on some other thread my opinion is to postbone any new ui functionality (for example NUTCH-48) until the new architecture is in place I would not veto someone testing committing NUTCH-48. We should avoid investing too much effort into this if it will soon be obsolete. But if a small effort will give folks did you mean support in the interim, that's not a bad thing. Of course, folks can always apply this patch themselves... Doug
Re: web ui improvement
As part of the required functionality of the 0.8 release discussion on some other thread my opinion is to postbone any new ui functionality (for example NUTCH-48) until the new architecture is in place I would not veto someone testing committing NUTCH-48. We should avoid investing too much effort into this if it will soon be obsolete. But if a small effort will give folks did you mean support in the interim, that's not a bad thing. Of course, folks can always apply this patch themselves... Agreed, perhaps I meant to say that I will not apply it ;) -- Sami Siren