Re: [nycwireless] alt.coffee ixnays the owerpay
i think its more about taking up real estate. On Feb 2, 2004, at 3:07 PM, Dana Spiegel wrote: This is interesting... We should try to do some digging to find out how much power is really an issue. If you are sitting with your laptop for 2 hours, how much $$$ are you costing alt.coffee in electricity? I would have expected this to be only a few cents, but perhaps this is not the case? Anyone interested in doing some research? Perhaps there are better, alternative solutions... Dana Spiegel Director, NYCwireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.nycwireless.net -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
RE: [nycwireless] New York Public Library Wi-Fi Access
Does all NY public libraries (including Queens) have AP's now? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Petriccione Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 11:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [nycwireless] New York Public Library Wi-Fi Access The SSID for the NY Public Library is "NYPL" There is no password. Someone asked at the meeting tonight and I wasn't sure so I said I would post it once I got home. - George Petriccione ACTC, CCNA, ACHDS Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network Apple Product Professional [EMAIL PROTECTED] iChat AV / AIM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
RE: [nycwireless] New York Public Library Wi-Fi Access
I answered my own question... here's a list - unfortunately, none in Queens. http://www.nypl.org/press/wifi.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:36 AM To: 'George Petriccione'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [nycwireless] New York Public Library Wi-Fi Access Does all NY public libraries (including Queens) have AP's now? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Petriccione Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 11:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [nycwireless] New York Public Library Wi-Fi Access The SSID for the NY Public Library is "NYPL" There is no password. Someone asked at the meeting tonight and I wasn't sure so I said I would post it once I got home. - George Petriccione ACTC, CCNA, ACHDS Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network Apple Product Professional [EMAIL PROTECTED] iChat AV / AIM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
RE: [nycwireless] alt.coffee ixnays the owerpay
Consider a 500W power supply for 1 hour = .5 kwh @ ~$0.25 kwh which is what coned commercial rates were last month... at least at my office... so we're talking 12.5 cents per hour... I'm not sure about the exact power consumption of you laptop, but you can look at the power supply and figure it out from there. But say you have 10 of these hooligans 10 hours a day 365 days a year its say .25 * 10 * 10 * 365 = ~9000 more dollars a year /12 or about 800/month... Which a business owner will take note of... That is assuming the power supply is running at max power consumption the whole time, which is not very common. I could see a socket tax :) at the coffee shop to offset the power usage... I really think I agree with it being a real estate issue more. It would be better to survey business owners. Ask them about their power expenditures before and after offering wireless, their change in sales. Then again instead of using the coffee shops power, I've been know to use those little plugs in the bushes all over manhattan :) --Darrel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Townsend Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [nycwireless] alt.coffee ixnays the owerpay i think its more about taking up real estate. On Feb 2, 2004, at 3:07 PM, Dana Spiegel wrote: > This is interesting... We should try to do some digging to find out > how much power is really an issue. If you are sitting with your laptop > for 2 hours, how much $$$ are you costing alt.coffee in electricity? I > would have expected this to be only a few cents, but perhaps this is > not the case? > > Anyone interested in doing some research? Perhaps there are better, > alternative solutions... > > Dana Spiegel > Director, NYCwireless > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.nycwireless.net -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
RE: [nycwireless] alt.coffee ixnays the owerpay
It's not about the power usage. I asked one of the counter persons and she listed things like people unplugging lamps, things getting stuck in outlets, people sitting in the best seats all day. Even though they had tried to accomidate the customers with power strips. Basically a number of problems can be traced to the laptop users. And Andy has a hot temper, someone probably just did something to push him over the edge. It may even have been someone recharging their cell phone. Just lug another 2 lbs in batteries and don't worry about it. -- Daniel << When truth is outlawed; only outlaws will tell the truth. >> - RLiegh On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Darrel O'Pry wrote: ]Consider a 500W power supply for 1 hour = .5 kwh @ ~$0.25 kwh which is ]what coned commercial rates were last month... at least at my office... ]so we're talking 12.5 cents per hour... I'm not sure about the exact ]power consumption of you laptop, but you can look at the power supply ]and figure it out from there. But say you have 10 of these hooligans 10 ]hours a day 365 days a year its say .25 * 10 * 10 * 365 = ~9000 more ]dollars a year /12 or about 800/month... Which a business owner will ]take note of... That is assuming the power supply is running at max ]power consumption the whole time, which is not very common. ] ]I could see a socket tax :) at the coffee shop to offset the power ]usage... ] ]I really think I agree with it being a real estate issue more. It would ]be better to survey business owners. Ask them about their power ]expenditures before and after offering wireless, their change in sales. ]Then again instead of using the coffee shops power, I've been know to ]use those little plugs in the bushes all over manhattan :) ] ]--Darrel ] ] ] ]-Original Message- ]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony ]Townsend ]Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:51 AM ]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]Subject: Re: [nycwireless] alt.coffee ixnays the owerpay ] ]i think its more about taking up real estate. ] ]On Feb 2, 2004, at 3:07 PM, Dana Spiegel wrote: ] ]> This is interesting... We should try to do some digging to find out ]> how much power is really an issue. If you are sitting with your laptop ] ]> for 2 hours, how much $$$ are you costing alt.coffee in electricity? I ] ]> would have expected this to be only a few cents, but perhaps this is ]> not the case? ]> ]> Anyone interested in doing some research? Perhaps there are better, ]> alternative solutions... ]> ]> Dana Spiegel ]> Director, NYCwireless ]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]> www.nycwireless.net ] ]-- ]NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ ]Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ ]Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ ] ] ]-- ]NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ ]Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ ]Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ ] -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] NTIA Call for Comments in Spectrum Proceedings
NTIA CALL FOR COMMENTS IN TWO SPECTRUM PROCEEDINGS Last Friday, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) invited interested parties to file comments on an expansion of the 3650-3700 MHz band to unlicensed devices for wireless broadband applications such as WiFi while protecting federal operations in those bands from interference or other adverse effects. Comments are due on or before February 27, 2004. See http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome//frnotices/2004/RWBPTFinal.htm). Also last week, NTIA asked for public participation in the President's Spectrum Initiative. NTIA invited comments on spectrum policy reform from all interested parties in a Federal Register Notice to be published today, February 2. The Administration announced its commitment to develop and implement a modernized United States spectrum policy. Pursuant to this commitment, the Secretary of Commerce is conducting a comprehensive review to develop recommendations for improving the United States' spectrum management policies regarding the organization, processes, and procedures affecting Federal government, State, local and private sector spectrum use. For more information see (http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/frnotices/2004/SpectrumInitiativeNOI_01282004.htm) [SOURCE: NTIA] (http://www.ntia.doc.gov/new.html) (c)Benton Foundation 2004. Redistribution of this email publication -- both internally and externally -- is encouraged if it includes this message. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] NTIA Call for Comments in Spectrum Proceedings
Why am I not surprised that this is happening during an election year. Now he is buying the Wi-Fi community vote. So I sound cynical? On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 12:36:32 -0800 (PST), Laura Forlano wrote: > > Also last week, NTIA asked for public participation in > the President's Spectrum Initiative. NTIA invited > comments on spectrum policy reform from > all interested parties in a Federal Register Notice to > be published today, February 2. The Administration > announced its commitment to develop and implement a > modernized United States spectrum policy. Pursuant to > this commitment, the Secretary of Commerce is > conducting a comprehensive review to develop > recommendations for improving the United States' > spectrum management policies regarding the > organization, processes, and procedures affecting > Federal government, State, local and private sector > spectrum use. > For more information see > (http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/frnotices/2004/SpectrumInitiativeNOI_01282004.htm) > [SOURCE: NTIA] > (http://www.ntia.doc.gov/new.html) > > (c)Benton Foundation 2004. Redistribution of this > email publication -- both internally and externally -- > is encouraged if it includes this message. > -- > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > Un/Subscribe: > http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > Archives: > http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ .:::. A seed hidden in the heart of an apple is an orchard invisible. Welsh proverb http://charlie.ridgway.com -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] NTIA Call for Comments in Spectrum Proceedings
Charlie et al, I would love for that the be the case, as that would indicate that the public wi-fi community has grown so large as to warrant political attention, but at this point in time we are probably not that much a factor. I urge our members to post on issues that relate to wireless, public internet access, policy, etc. There are countless mailing lists that discuss current events and politics, and while Charlie's point was not inflammatory, it does steer the subject from spectrum policy to political discourse. Thank You, Jacob Farkas NYCwireless List moderator Charlie Ridgway wrote: Why am I not surprised that this is happening during an election year. Now he is buying the Wi-Fi community vote. So I sound cynical? On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 12:36:32 -0800 (PST), Laura Forlano wrote: Also last week, NTIA asked for public participation in the President's Spectrum Initiative. NTIA invited comments on spectrum policy reform from all interested parties in a Federal Register Notice to be published today, February 2. The Administration announced its commitment to develop and implement a modernized United States spectrum policy. Pursuant to this commitment, the Secretary of Commerce is conducting a comprehensive review to develop recommendations for improving the United States' spectrum management policies regarding the organization, processes, and procedures affecting Federal government, State, local and private sector spectrum use. For more information see (http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/frnotices/2004/SpectrumInitiativeNOI_01282004.htm) [SOURCE: NTIA] (http://www.ntia.doc.gov/new.html) (c)Benton Foundation 2004. Redistribution of this email publication -- both internally and externally -- is encouraged if it includes this message. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ .:::. A seed hidden in the heart of an apple is an orchard invisible. Welsh proverb http://charlie.ridgway.com -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
RE: [nycwireless] owerpay in the ushbay
Darrel O'Pry said: >Then again instead of using the coffee shops power, I've been know to > use those little plugs in the bushes all over manhattan :) Hmmn. a little voice say's "Repeaters " -Manichattan -- Information wants to be priceless... -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
RE: [nycwireless] owerpay in the ushbay
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Manichattan wrote: > Hmmn. a little voice say's "Repeaters " > Ooh... that is a lovely wicked thought... ;-) -- Aj. Sys. Admin / Developer -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] anyone in 11219?
this is a real longshot but ... is anyone in 11219 in brooklyn w/ an AP? (fort hamilton pkway + 53rd st) - jon pgp key: http://www.jonbaer.net/jonbaer.asc fingerprint: F438 A47E C45E 8B27 F68C 1F9B 41DB DB8B 9A0C AF47 -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
