[nycwireless] NYCwireless January Meeting - TOMORROW Wed, Jan. 25th: VOIP over Wifi Design
NYCwireless January Meeting Announcement All are invited - please re-post everywhere! TOMORROW NIGHT! Wednesday, January 25th, 2006 at 7:15pm Bway.net 568 Broadway at Prince St, NE corner Suite 404 New York, NY 10012 [Please note: Everybody will need to sign-in in the lobby.] Agenda: 1. Dustin Goodwin: Designing Wifi Network for VOIP So you think you can just buy a couple of Wifi VOIP phones and start using them on your office network? Well unfortunately it's not that easy. Wifi networks designed for data are probably not well enough engineered to handle VOIP phones with a high degree of quality. If you want to learn about design factors for VOIP over WiFi, don't miss this presentation. 2. tba 3. Workshop breakout sessions: small group discussions from novice to advanced questions === Dustin Goodwin, VOIP expert and NYCwireless Board member - Dustin has shared his expertise many times at NYCw meetings, his presentations are always informative, and not to be missed. Dustin's Bio: http://nycwireless.net/tiki-index.php?page=About (scroll down to Board of Directors) === NYCwireless is a non-profit organization that advocates for, and enables the growth of free, public wireless networks. NYCw monthly meetings are held on the last Wednesday of the month. They are free, and open to all, RSVP not required. === -- === Joe Plotkin DSL/Marketing Bway.net - NYC's Best Internet === Bway.net Note--> new address: 568 Broadway Suite 404 New York, NY 10012 vox: 212.982.9800 fax: 212.982.5499 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] xDSL info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.bway.net === -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Fwd: Internet Freedom Under Fire: Act Now
Begin forwarded message: From: "Timothy Karr, Campaign Director" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: January 24, 2006 2:33:28 PM EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Internet Freedom Under Fire: Act Now Dear Dana Spiegel: After destroying TV and radio, mega-media corporations are scheming to control what content you can view and which services you can use online. Streaming video, Internet phones, podcasting and online games are the future of the Internet. But companies like Verizon, AT&T and Comcast want Congress to let them deliver only their own products at super-high speeds ... while sticking the rest of us in the slow lane. This predatory scheme would be a dead end for independent voices and Internet innovators: bloggers, producers, and any new channels and services that might compete with the conglomerates. The only way to stop them is to raise hell right now: Tell Big Media and Congress: Hands Off Our Internet. Go to http:// www.freepress.net/action/neutrality From its beginnings, the Internet was built on a cooperative, democratic ideal. The infrastructure’s only job was to move data between users — regardless of where it came from or what it contained. This “network neutrality” fostered a medium that did not exclude anyone, allowed for far-reaching innovations, and created the Internet as we know it. Past experience shows that when large media companies are left to their own devices, the result is content and services that serve nothing but their bank accounts. An open and independent Internet is the antidote to these media gatekeepers. If big media companies are allowed to limit the fastest services to those who can pay their toll, upstart Web services, consumers, bloggers and new media makers alike all would be cut off from the digital revolution. Tell Big Media and Congress: Hands Off Our Internet. Go to http:// www.freepress.net/action/neutrality Free Press will deliver a letter to the CEO of your broadband provider and send copies to your members of Congress, urging them to write “network neutrality” into law. Act now. We must defend our Net freedoms before we lose them altogether. Onward, Timothy Karr Campaign Director www.freepress.net P.S. Please forward this e-mail right now to everyone you know who uses the Internet. P.P.S Check out the new Free Press Web site — Dead End for the Internet? — to learn more about net neutrality and how to ensure that the Web remains an open road. Go to http://www.freepress.net/ deadend/ /*Your email ID. --*/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Internet Freedom Under Fire: Act Now
Shame on those evil big companies for wanting to make a profit! Shame on them for wanting to control how the very networks which they built and run, with their stockholders' money, are run! Sorry sometimes I just can't resist! Jim > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Dana Spiegel > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:39 PM > To: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net > Subject: [nycwireless] Fwd: Internet Freedom Under Fire: Act Now > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: "Timothy Karr, Campaign Director" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: January 24, 2006 2:33:28 PM EST > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Internet Freedom Under Fire: Act Now > > > > Dear Dana Spiegel: > > > > After destroying TV and radio, mega-media corporations are scheming > > to control what content you can view and which services you > can use > > online. > > > > Streaming video, Internet phones, podcasting and online games are > > the future of the Internet. But companies like Verizon, AT&T and > > Comcast want Congress to let them deliver only their own products > > at super-high speeds ... while sticking the rest of us in the slow > > lane. > > > > This predatory scheme would be a dead end for independent voices > > and Internet innovators: bloggers, producers, and any new channels > > and services that might compete with the conglomerates. > > > > The only way to stop them is to raise hell right now: > > > > Tell Big Media and Congress: Hands Off Our Internet. Go to http:// > > www.freepress.net/action/neutrality > > > > From its beginnings, the Internet was built on a cooperative, > > democratic ideal. The infrastructure's only job was to move data > > between users - regardless of where it came from or what it > contained. > > > > This "network neutrality" fostered a medium that did not exclude > > anyone, allowed for far-reaching innovations, and created the > > Internet as we know it. > > > > Past experience shows that when large media companies are left to > > their own devices, the result is content and services that serve > > nothing but their bank accounts. An open and independent Internet > > is the antidote to these media gatekeepers. > > > > If big media companies are allowed to limit the fastest services to > > those who can pay their toll, upstart Web services, consumers, > > bloggers and new media makers alike all would be cut off from the > > digital revolution. > > > > Tell Big Media and Congress: Hands Off Our Internet. Go to http:// > > www.freepress.net/action/neutrality > > -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Internet Freedom Under Fire: Act Now
I don't believe that anyone begrudges a private corporation a reasonable profit... It's when they have humongous profits from products that have become a "necessity" of life for most of us, that we have a problem. I don't believe that we would be squabbling about the price of gas for our vehicles, if the corporations providing us the gas, were having a great year instead of the outrageous triple digit percentage profit gains at our expense. Especially when the general public sees no need for the high prices we pay, that are producing those outrageous profits. We will probably look at the Internet providers the same way. Why can't we go where we want to after paying to get on? And why should anyone be directing how I use my computer or what applications I prefer to use? I believe that my ISP already, and has all along, stated that I get "x" bandwidth per month for a price. If I go over that, I have to pay more. I think that is reasonable. I don't think it's reasonable for my ISP to tell me how I can use my bandwidth like my utility company doesn't tell me how I can use my electricity if the application is legal under the law. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Henry Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:34 PM To: 'Dana Spiegel'; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net Subject: RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Internet Freedom Under Fire: Act Now Shame on those evil big companies for wanting to make a profit! Shame on them for wanting to control how the very networks which they built and run, with their stockholders' money, are run! Sorry sometimes I just can't resist! Jim > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana > Spiegel > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:39 PM > To: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net > Subject: [nycwireless] Fwd: Internet Freedom Under Fire: Act Now > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: "Timothy Karr, Campaign Director" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: January 24, 2006 2:33:28 PM EST > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Internet Freedom Under Fire: Act Now > > > > Dear Dana Spiegel: > > > > After destroying TV and radio, mega-media corporations are scheming > > to control what content you can view and which services you > can use > > online. > > > > Streaming video, Internet phones, podcasting and online games are > > the future of the Internet. But companies like Verizon, AT&T and > > Comcast want Congress to let them deliver only their own products at > > super-high speeds ... while sticking the rest of us in the slow > > lane. > > > > This predatory scheme would be a dead end for independent voices and > > Internet innovators: bloggers, producers, and any new channels and > > services that might compete with the conglomerates. > > > > The only way to stop them is to raise hell right now: > > > > Tell Big Media and Congress: Hands Off Our Internet. Go to http:// > > www.freepress.net/action/neutrality > > > > From its beginnings, the Internet was built on a cooperative, > > democratic ideal. The infrastructure's only job was to move data > > between users - regardless of where it came from or what it > contained. > > > > This "network neutrality" fostered a medium that did not exclude > > anyone, allowed for far-reaching innovations, and created the > > Internet as we know it. > > > > Past experience shows that when large media companies are left to > > their own devices, the result is content and services that serve > > nothing but their bank accounts. An open and independent Internet is > > the antidote to these media gatekeepers. > > > > If big media companies are allowed to limit the fastest services to > > those who can pay their toll, upstart Web services, consumers, > > bloggers and new media makers alike all would be cut off from the > > digital revolution. > > > > Tell Big Media and Congress: Hands Off Our Internet. Go to http:// > > www.freepress.net/action/neutrality > > -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Fwd: Internet Freedom Under Fire: Act Now
Thanks Bill Bob. And frankly, it has nothing to do with small or large profits. It has only to do with the co-option and private-gating of a public resource that everyone has helped to build. How would you feel if some private organization contracted with your city to manage sidewalks, and then afterwards erected fences to only let those who paid them an entry fee (at a price _they_ determined) to walk on those sidewalks, or those who ran stores paid them to leave the sidewalk in front of their store open (again at a price the management company determined)? What if there were two private companies that did this in your town, and claimed that they were competing because there were 2 of them. Meanwhile, you still can't use the sidewalk unless you pay one of them. Dana Spiegel Executive Director NYCwireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.NYCwireless.net +1 917 402 0422 Read the Wireless Community blog: http://www.wirelesscommunity.info On Jan 24, 2006, at 7:57 PM, Billy Bob wrote: I don't believe that anyone begrudges a private corporation a reasonable profit... It's when they have humongous profits from products that have become a "necessity" of life for most of us, that we have a problem. I don't believe that we would be squabbling about the price of gas for our vehicles, if the corporations providing us the gas, were having a great year instead of the outrageous triple digit percentage profit gains at our expense. Especially when the general public sees no need for the high prices we pay, that are producing those outrageous profits. We will probably look at the Internet providers the same way. Why can't we go where we want to after paying to get on? And why should anyone be directing how I use my computer or what applications I prefer to use? I believe that my ISP already, and has all along, stated that I get "x" bandwidth per month for a price. If I go over that, I have to pay more. I think that is reasonable. I don't think it's reasonable for my ISP to tell me how I can use my bandwidth like my utility company doesn't tell me how I can use my electricity if the application is legal under the law. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Henry Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:34 PM To: 'Dana Spiegel'; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net Subject: RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Internet Freedom Under Fire: Act Now Shame on those evil big companies for wanting to make a profit! Shame on them for wanting to control how the very networks which they built and run, with their stockholders' money, are run! Sorry sometimes I just can't resist! Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana Spiegel Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:39 PM To: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net Subject: [nycwireless] Fwd: Internet Freedom Under Fire: Act Now Begin forwarded message: From: "Timothy Karr, Campaign Director" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: January 24, 2006 2:33:28 PM EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Internet Freedom Under Fire: Act Now Dear Dana Spiegel: After destroying TV and radio, mega-media corporations are scheming to control what content you can view and which services you can use online. Streaming video, Internet phones, podcasting and online games are the future of the Internet. But companies like Verizon, AT&T and Comcast want Congress to let them deliver only their own products at super-high speeds ... while sticking the rest of us in the slow lane. This predatory scheme would be a dead end for independent voices and Internet innovators: bloggers, producers, and any new channels and services that might compete with the conglomerates. The only way to stop them is to raise hell right now: Tell Big Media and Congress: Hands Off Our Internet. Go to http:// www.freepress.net/action/neutrality From its beginnings, the Internet was built on a cooperative, democratic ideal. The infrastructure's only job was to move data between users - regardless of where it came from or what it contained. This "network neutrality" fostered a medium that did not exclude anyone, allowed for far-reaching innovations, and created the Internet as we know it. Past experience shows that when large media companies are left to their own devices, the result is content and services that serve nothing but their bank accounts. An open and independent Internet is the antidote to these media gatekeepers. If big media companies are allowed to limit the fastest services to those who can pay their toll, upstart Web services, consumers, bloggers and new media makers alike all would be cut off from the digital revolution. Tell Big Media and Congress: Hands Off Our Internet. Go to http:// www.freepress.net/action/neutrality -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/ nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwirel
