Re: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?

2006-02-13 Thread Joe Plotkin


Oh Alex how could you? It is one thing to be wrong on the facts, but 
to publicly slander an ally based upon nothing but your incorrect 
opinion? Thats awful.


I have worked with Bruce, fighting on behalf of independent ISPs, for 
over 8 years. FIGHTING TO PROTECT YOUR BUSINESS -- lobbying in DC, 
filing with FCC, doing research proving the ISPs were harmed, suing, 
holding meetings, speaking at ISPcon, etc. He has done more than you 
have to protect ISPs and their access to the public network.


Bruce is NOT financed by the anyone, let alone the CWA. Perhaps you 
are confused by the report Bruce published a couple of years back -- 
which was based upon a CWA report that documented that Vz workers 
were being forced by supervisors to obstruct and delay competitor 
installs and repairs. This report validated what many of us who used 
CLECs like Covad had experienced. This report HELPED bring pressure 
that eliminated the worst of these abuses for the past several years. 
Essentially, the CWA members were the whistle-blowers who felt what 
they were being asked to do was wrong.


Yeah Bruce is nuts -- he's nuts to expect some gratitude from the 
people he has labored selflessly to protect. No good deed goes 
unpunished I guess . . .


-> Joe

At 1:20 AM -0500 2/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006, Joe Plotkin wrote:


 Yesterday's NY Times has a column commenting on Bruce Kushnick's new
 book (below) -- in which Bruce documents the Baby Bell fraud. Now that
 the Bells have succeeded in their dream of an *unregulated monopoly* --
 a wider constituency has awakened to the dangers Bruce has been fighting
 against for a decade.

Anything Kushnick writes should be read with a bucket of salt.  Not to say
that he's right on many things, but there just as many things on which
he's nuts.

Currently he's financed by CWA, which is far more corrupt than VZ itself.

-alex


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Re: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?

2006-02-12 Thread alex
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006, Joe Plotkin wrote:

> Yesterday's NY Times has a column commenting on Bruce Kushnick's new
> book (below) -- in which Bruce documents the Baby Bell fraud. Now that
> the Bells have succeeded in their dream of an *unregulated monopoly* --
> a wider constituency has awakened to the dangers Bruce has been fighting
> against for a decade.
Anything Kushnick writes should be read with a bucket of salt.  Not to say
that he's right on many things, but there just as many things on which
he's nuts.

Currently he's financed by CWA, which is far more corrupt than VZ itself.

-alex


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Re: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?

2006-02-12 Thread Joe Plotkin


Yesterday's NY Times has a column commenting on Bruce Kushnick's new 
book (below) -- in which Bruce documents the Baby Bell fraud. Now 
that the Bells have succeeded in their dream of an *unregulated 
monopoly* -- a wider constituency has awakened to the dangers Bruce 
has been fighting against for a decade.


> Joe

February 11, 2006
What's Online

A Rant. All 406 Pages of It.
By DAN MITCHELL

A NEW e-book tells a "sordid story" of business fraud, according to 
one reviewer. The book's author says it is "the largest fraud case in 
American history."
Enron? WorldCom? No. It's much, much larger than either of those, 
though the use of the word "fraud" in this case is more a literary 
device than a legal definition. The book is "The $200 Billion 
Broadband Scandal" (newnetworks.com). The author is Bruce Kushnick, a 
longtime irritant to the telecommunications industry.


continued at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/11/technology/11online.ready.html?_r=1&oref=slogin



At 11:10 PM -0500 2/8/06, Dana Spiegel wrote:

Jim,

We should the telco's like we trusted them when they said they'd 
provide a fiber optic network to every home? Rght. I'll tell you 
what: If you believe the telco's, then I've got a bridge to sell you.


From the article you pointed out: "McSlarrow pointed out that the 
cable industry has invested $100 billion on its networks in the last 
10 years. This model works, he said, why change it to pursue 
"hypothetical theories.""


Well, that's great, except we (the taxpayers) gave them $200 billion 
to invest in those networks over the last 10 years. Where'd the 
other $100 billion go?


Dana Spiegel
sociableDESIGN  ::  www.sociableDESIGN.com
123 Bank Street, Suite 510, New York, NY 10014
m  +1 917 402 0422  ::  f  +1 760 454 3690  ::  e  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Read the Wireless Community blog: http://www.wirelesscommunity.info


On Feb 8, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Jim Henry wrote:


Dana,
Read this article:
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6305438.html?display=Breaking+News&referral=SUPP&nid=2228

and I think you will begin to see that such fears are unfounded.

Jim
-Original Message-
From: Dana Spiegel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Rob Kelley (yahoo)'; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net
Subject: Re: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?

Jim,

I hardly think that's the point. Besides the fact that Jeff Chester 
_is not_ extreme and _takes no side_ in the article re: nuclear 
power, you are (as   I've come to expect from your posts) arguing 
irrelevant details instead of the larger issue.


In the article below, which everyone should read, Jeff lays out a 
number of important points regarding the promises that were made 
when we (taxpayers) helped these companies build their networks, 
and these companies' failures to live up to their end of the 
bargain. Furthermore, instead of trying to provide what they 
promised to us, they are taking advantage of the monopolistic 
market position we put them in.


Net neutrality is not a new thing. It is the oldest and most 
important part of the internet's infrastructure. Now, after pulling 
a bait and switch on   us over the past 2 decades, the telcos are 
trying to pull another bait and switch on us.



Dana Spiegel
Executive Director
NYCwireless
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.NYCwireless.net
+1 917 402 0422

Read the Wireless Community blog: http://www.wirelesscommunity.info


On Feb 7, 2006, at 9:16 PM, Jim Henry wrote:


This guy (the author, not you Rob) references nuclear power like it's a BAD
thing! Concern for large companies exercising their market power over their
netwokrs isn't going to get much traction when it only comes from people on
the extreme.

Jim


-Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Rob Kelley (yahoo)
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:50 PM
To: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net
Subject: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?


The Nation gets hip to Network Neutrality...


From The Nation [posted online on February 1, 2006]

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060213/chester

The End of the Internet?

by JEFF CHESTER

The nation's largest telephone and cable companies are crafting an
alarming set of strategies that would transform the free, open and
nondiscriminatory Internet of today to a privately run and branded
service that would charge a fee for virtually everything we

do online.


Verizon, Comcast, Bell South and other communications giants are
developing strategies that would track and store

information on our

every move in cyberspace in a vast data-collection and marketing
system, the scope of which could rival the National Security
Age

Re: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?

2006-02-08 Thread Dana Spiegel

Jim,

We should the telco's like we trusted them when they said they'd  
provide a fiber optic network to every home? Rght. I'll tell you  
what: If you believe the telco's, then I've got a bridge to sell you.


From the article you pointed out: "McSlarrow pointed out that the  
cable industry has invested $100 billion on its networks in the last  
10 years. This model works, he said, why change it to pursue  
"hypothetical theories.""


Well, that's great, except we (the taxpayers) gave them $200 billion  
to invest in those networks over the last 10 years. Where'd the other  
$100 billion go?


Dana Spiegel
sociableDESIGN  ::  www.sociableDESIGN.com
123 Bank Street, Suite 510, New York, NY 10014
m  +1 917 402 0422  ::  f  +1 760 454 3690  ::  e   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Read the Social Technologies blog: http://www.sociabledesign.com/blog
Read the Wireless Community blog: http://www.wirelesscommunity.info


On Feb 8, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Jim Henry wrote:


Dana,
Read this article:
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6305438.html? 
display=Breaking+News&referral=SUPP&nid=2228


and I think you will begin to see that such fears are unfounded.

Jim
-Original Message-
From: Dana Spiegel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Rob Kelley (yahoo)'; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net
Subject: Re: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?

Jim,

I hardly think that's the point. Besides the fact that Jeff Chester  
_is not_ extreme and _takes no side_ in the article re: nuclear  
power, you are (as   I've come to expect from your posts) arguing  
irrelevant details instead of the larger issue.


In the article below, which everyone should read, Jeff lays out a  
number of important points regarding the promises that were made  
when we (taxpayers) helped these companies build their networks,  
and these companies' failures to live up to their end of the  
bargain. Furthermore, instead of trying to provide what they  
promised to us, they are taking advantage of the monopolistic  
market position we put them in.


Net neutrality is not a new thing. It is the oldest and most  
important part of the internet's infrastructure. Now, after pulling  
a bait and switch on   us over the past 2 decades, the telcos are  
trying to pull another bait and switch on us.



Dana Spiegel
Executive Director
NYCwireless
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.NYCwireless.net
+1 917 402 0422

Read the Wireless Community blog: http://www.wirelesscommunity.info


On Feb 7, 2006, at 9:16 PM, Jim Henry wrote:

This guy (the author, not you Rob) references nuclear power like  
it's a BAD
thing! Concern for large companies exercising their market power  
over their
netwokrs isn't going to get much traction when it only comes from  
people on

the extreme.

Jim


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Rob Kelley (yahoo)
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:50 PM
To: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net
Subject: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?


The Nation gets hip to Network Neutrality...


From The Nation [posted online on February 1, 2006]

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060213/chester

The End of the Internet?

by JEFF CHESTER

The nation's largest telephone and cable companies are crafting an
alarming set of strategies that would transform the free, open and
nondiscriminatory Internet of today to a privately run and branded
service that would charge a fee for virtually everything we

do online.


Verizon, Comcast, Bell South and other communications giants are
developing strategies that would track and store

information on our

every move in cyberspace in a vast data-collection and marketing
system, the scope of which could rival the National Security
Agency. According to white papers now being circulated in the
cable, telephone and telecommunications industries, those with the
deepest pockets--corporations, special-interest groups and major
advertisers--would get preferred treatment. Content from these
providers would have first priority on our computer and television
screens, while information seen as undesirable, such as peer-to-
peer communications, could be relegated to a slow lane or simply
shut out.

Under the plans they are considering, all of us--from content
providers to individual users--would pay more to surf online,
stream videos or even send e-mail. Industry planners are mulling
new subscription plans that would further limit the online
experience, establishing "platinum," "gold" and "silver" levels of
Internet access that would set limits on the number of downloads,
media streams or even e-mail messages that could be sent or

received.


To make this pay-to-play vision a reality, phone and cable
lobbyists are now engaged in a political campaign to

further weaken

the nation'

RE: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?

2006-02-08 Thread Jim Henry
Dana,
Read this article:
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6305438.html?display=Breaking+New
s
<http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6305438.html?display=Breaking+Ne
ws&referral=SUPP&nid=2228> &referral=SUPP&nid=2228
 
and I think you will begin to see that such fears are unfounded.  
 
Jim

-Original Message-
From: Dana Spiegel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Rob Kelley (yahoo)'; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net
Subject: Re: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?


Jim, 

I hardly think that's the point. Besides the fact that Jeff Chester _is not_
extreme and _takes no side_ in the article re: nuclear power, you are (as
I've come to expect from your posts) arguing irrelevant details instead of
the larger issue.

In the article below, which everyone should read, Jeff lays out a number of
important points regarding the promises that were made when we (taxpayers)
helped these companies build their networks, and these companies' failures
to live up to their end of the bargain. Furthermore, instead of trying to
provide what they promised to us, they are taking advantage of the
monopolistic market position we put them in.

Net neutrality is not a new thing. It is the oldest and most important part
of the internet's infrastructure. Now, after pulling a bait and switch on us
over the past 2 decades, the telcos are trying to pull another bait and
switch on us.



Dana Spiegel
Executive Director
NYCwireless
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.NYCwireless.net
+1 917 402 0422

Read the Wireless Community blog: http://www.wirelesscommunity.info


On Feb 7, 2006, at 9:16 PM, Jim Henry wrote:


This guy (the author, not you Rob) references nuclear power like it's a BAD
thing! Concern for large companies exercising their market power over their
netwokrs isn't going to get much traction when it only comes from people on
the extreme.

Jim


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Rob Kelley (yahoo)
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:50 PM
To: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net
Subject: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?


The Nation gets hip to Network Neutrality...


>From The Nation [posted online on February 1, 2006]

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060213/chester

The End of the Internet?

by JEFF CHESTER

The nation's largest telephone and cable companies are crafting an
alarming set of strategies that would transform the free, open and  
nondiscriminatory Internet of today to a privately run and branded  
service that would charge a fee for virtually everything we 

do online.


Verizon, Comcast, Bell South and other communications giants are
developing strategies that would track and store 

information on our  

every move in cyberspace in a vast data-collection and marketing  
system, the scope of which could rival the National Security  
Agency. According to white papers now being circulated in the  
cable, telephone and telecommunications industries, those with the  
deepest pockets--corporations, special-interest groups and major  
advertisers--would get preferred treatment. Content from these  
providers would have first priority on our computer and television  
screens, while information seen as undesirable, such as peer-to- 
peer communications, could be relegated to a slow lane or simply  
shut out.

Under the plans they are considering, all of us--from content
providers to individual users--would pay more to surf online,  
stream videos or even send e-mail. Industry planners are mulling  
new subscription plans that would further limit the online  
experience, establishing "platinum," "gold" and "silver" levels of  
Internet access that would set limits on the number of downloads,  
media streams or even e-mail messages that could be sent or 

received.


To make this pay-to-play vision a reality, phone and cable
lobbyists are now engaged in a political campaign to 

further weaken  

the nation's communications policy laws. They want the federal  
government to permit them to operate Internet and other digital  
communications services as private networks, free of policy  
safeguards or governmental oversight. Indeed, both the 

Congress and  

the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) are considering  
proposals that will have far-reaching impact on the Internet's  
future. Ten years after passage of the ill-advised  
Telecommunications Act of 1996, telephone and cable companies are  
using the same political snake oil to convince compromised or  
clueless lawmakers to subvert the Internet into a turbo-charged  
digital retail machine.

The telephone industry has been somewhat more candid than the cable
industry about its strategy for the Internet's future. 

Senior phone  

executives have publicly discussed plans to begin imposing a new  
scheme for the de

Re: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?

2006-02-07 Thread Dana Spiegel

Jim,

I hardly think that's the point. Besides the fact that Jeff Chester  
_is not_ extreme and _takes no side_ in the article re: nuclear  
power, you are (as I've come to expect from your posts) arguing  
irrelevant details instead of the larger issue.


In the article below, which everyone should read, Jeff lays out a  
number of important points regarding the promises that were made when  
we (taxpayers) helped these companies build their networks, and these  
companies' failures to live up to their end of the bargain.  
Furthermore, instead of trying to provide what they promised to us,  
they are taking advantage of the monopolistic market position we put  
them in.


Net neutrality is not a new thing. It is the oldest and most  
important part of the internet's infrastructure. Now, after pulling a  
bait and switch on us over the past 2 decades, the telcos are trying  
to pull another bait and switch on us.



Dana Spiegel
Executive Director
NYCwireless
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.NYCwireless.net
+1 917 402 0422

Read the Wireless Community blog: http://www.wirelesscommunity.info


On Feb 7, 2006, at 9:16 PM, Jim Henry wrote:

This guy (the author, not you Rob) references nuclear power like  
it's a BAD
thing! Concern for large companies exercising their market power  
over their
netwokrs isn't going to get much traction when it only comes from  
people on

the extreme.

Jim


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Rob Kelley (yahoo)
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:50 PM
To: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net
Subject: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?


The Nation gets hip to Network Neutrality...


From The Nation [posted online on February 1, 2006]

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060213/chester

The End of the Internet?

by JEFF CHESTER

The nation's largest telephone and cable companies are crafting an
alarming set of strategies that would transform the free, open and
nondiscriminatory Internet of today to a privately run and branded
service that would charge a fee for virtually everything we

do online.


Verizon, Comcast, Bell South and other communications giants are
developing strategies that would track and store

information on our

every move in cyberspace in a vast data-collection and marketing
system, the scope of which could rival the National Security
Agency. According to white papers now being circulated in the
cable, telephone and telecommunications industries, those with the
deepest pockets--corporations, special-interest groups and major
advertisers--would get preferred treatment. Content from these
providers would have first priority on our computer and television
screens, while information seen as undesirable, such as peer-to-
peer communications, could be relegated to a slow lane or simply
shut out.

Under the plans they are considering, all of us--from content
providers to individual users--would pay more to surf online,
stream videos or even send e-mail. Industry planners are mulling
new subscription plans that would further limit the online
experience, establishing "platinum," "gold" and "silver" levels of
Internet access that would set limits on the number of downloads,
media streams or even e-mail messages that could be sent or

received.


To make this pay-to-play vision a reality, phone and cable
lobbyists are now engaged in a political campaign to

further weaken

the nation's communications policy laws. They want the federal
government to permit them to operate Internet and other digital
communications services as private networks, free of policy
safeguards or governmental oversight. Indeed, both the

Congress and

the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) are considering
proposals that will have far-reaching impact on the Internet's
future. Ten years after passage of the ill-advised
Telecommunications Act of 1996, telephone and cable companies are
using the same political snake oil to convince compromised or
clueless lawmakers to subvert the Internet into a turbo-charged
digital retail machine.

The telephone industry has been somewhat more candid than the cable
industry about its strategy for the Internet's future.

Senior phone

executives have publicly discussed plans to begin imposing a new
scheme for the delivery of Internet content, especially from major
Internet content companies. As Ed Whitacre, chairman and CEO of
AT&T, told Business Week in November, "Why should they be allowed
to use my pipes? The Internet can't be free in that sense, because
we and the cable companies have made an investment, and for a
Google or Yahoo! or Vonage or anybody to expect to use these pipes
[for] free is nuts!"

The phone industry has marshaled its political allies to help win
the freedom to impose this new broadband business model. At a
recent conference held by the Progress and Freedom Foundation, a
think tank funded

RE: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?

2006-02-07 Thread Jim Henry
This guy (the author, not you Rob) references nuclear power like it's a BAD
thing! Concern for large companies exercising their market power over their
netwokrs isn't going to get much traction when it only comes from people on
the extreme.

Jim

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Rob Kelley (yahoo)
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:50 PM
> To: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net
> Subject: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?
> 
> 
> The Nation gets hip to Network Neutrality...
> 
> > From The Nation [posted online on February 1, 2006]
> >
> > http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060213/chester
> >
> > The End of the Internet?
> >
> > by JEFF CHESTER
> >
> > The nation's largest telephone and cable companies are crafting an
> > alarming set of strategies that would transform the free, open and  
> > nondiscriminatory Internet of today to a privately run and branded  
> > service that would charge a fee for virtually everything we 
> do online.
> >
> > Verizon, Comcast, Bell South and other communications giants are
> > developing strategies that would track and store 
> information on our  
> > every move in cyberspace in a vast data-collection and marketing  
> > system, the scope of which could rival the National Security  
> > Agency. According to white papers now being circulated in the  
> > cable, telephone and telecommunications industries, those with the  
> > deepest pockets--corporations, special-interest groups and major  
> > advertisers--would get preferred treatment. Content from these  
> > providers would have first priority on our computer and television  
> > screens, while information seen as undesirable, such as peer-to- 
> > peer communications, could be relegated to a slow lane or simply  
> > shut out.
> >
> > Under the plans they are considering, all of us--from content
> > providers to individual users--would pay more to surf online,  
> > stream videos or even send e-mail. Industry planners are mulling  
> > new subscription plans that would further limit the online  
> > experience, establishing "platinum," "gold" and "silver" levels of  
> > Internet access that would set limits on the number of downloads,  
> > media streams or even e-mail messages that could be sent or 
> received.
> >
> > To make this pay-to-play vision a reality, phone and cable
> > lobbyists are now engaged in a political campaign to 
> further weaken  
> > the nation's communications policy laws. They want the federal  
> > government to permit them to operate Internet and other digital  
> > communications services as private networks, free of policy  
> > safeguards or governmental oversight. Indeed, both the 
> Congress and  
> > the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) are considering  
> > proposals that will have far-reaching impact on the Internet's  
> > future. Ten years after passage of the ill-advised  
> > Telecommunications Act of 1996, telephone and cable companies are  
> > using the same political snake oil to convince compromised or  
> > clueless lawmakers to subvert the Internet into a turbo-charged  
> > digital retail machine.
> >
> > The telephone industry has been somewhat more candid than the cable
> > industry about its strategy for the Internet's future. 
> Senior phone  
> > executives have publicly discussed plans to begin imposing a new  
> > scheme for the delivery of Internet content, especially from major  
> > Internet content companies. As Ed Whitacre, chairman and CEO of  
> > AT&T, told Business Week in November, "Why should they be allowed  
> > to use my pipes? The Internet can't be free in that sense, because  
> > we and the cable companies have made an investment, and for a  
> > Google or Yahoo! or Vonage or anybody to expect to use these pipes  
> > [for] free is nuts!"
> >
> > The phone industry has marshaled its political allies to help win
> > the freedom to impose this new broadband business model. At a  
> > recent conference held by the Progress and Freedom Foundation, a  
> > think tank funded by Comcast, Verizon, AT&T and other media  
> > companies, there was much discussion of a plan for phone companies  
> > to impose fees on a sliding scale, charging content providers  
> > different levels of service. "Price discrimination," noted PFF's  
> > resident media expert Adam Thierer, "drives the market-based  
> > capitalist economy."

Re: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?

2006-02-07 Thread Michael Stearne
On 2/7/06, Rob Kelley (yahoo) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael:
>
> The Weekly Standard?  Ha, that may take awhile: "The Weekly Standard
> magazine is considered the prime voice of Republican neoconservatives, and
> one of the most influential publications in Washington under the Bush
> Administration."
> [http://www.disinfopedia.com/index.php?title=Weekly_Standard ]

My point!  They (currently) control the discussion.  So if it's not
coming from that direction it's not really being said (I'm pessimistic
:-) )

Michael


>
> On 2/7/06, Rob Kelley (yahoo) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The Nation gets hip to Network Neutrality...
> >
> > > From The Nation [posted online on February 1, 2006]
> > >
> > > http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060213/chester
> > >
> > > The End of the Internet?
> > >
> > > by JEFF CHESTER
> > >
> > > The nation's largest telephone and cable companies are crafting an
> > > alarming set of strategies that would transform the free, open and
> > > nondiscriminatory Internet of today to a privately run and branded
> > > service that would charge a fee for virtually everything we do online.
> > >
> > > Verizon, Comcast, Bell South and other communications giants are
> > > developing strategies that would track and store information on our
> > > every move in cyberspace in a vast data-collection and marketing
> > > system, the scope of which could rival the National Security
> > > Agency. According to white papers now being circulated in the
> > > cable, telephone and telecommunications industries, those with the
> > > deepest pockets--corporations, special-interest groups and major
> > > advertisers--would get preferred treatment. Content from these
> > > providers would have first priority on our computer and television
> > > screens, while information seen as undesirable, such as peer-to-
> > > peer communications, could be relegated to a slow lane or simply
> > > shut out.
> > >
> > > Under the plans they are considering, all of us--from content
> > > providers to individual users--would pay more to surf online,
> > > stream videos or even send e-mail. Industry planners are mulling
> > > new subscription plans that would further limit the online
> > > experience, establishing "platinum," "gold" and "silver" levels of
> > > Internet access that would set limits on the number of downloads,
> > > media streams or even e-mail messages that could be sent or received.
> > >
> > > To make this pay-to-play vision a reality, phone and cable
> > > lobbyists are now engaged in a political campaign to further weaken
> > > the nation's communications policy laws. They want the federal
> > > government to permit them to operate Internet and other digital
> > > communications services as private networks, free of policy
> > > safeguards or governmental oversight. Indeed, both the Congress and
> > > the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) are considering
> > > proposals that will have far-reaching impact on the Internet's
> > > future. Ten years after passage of the ill-advised
> > > Telecommunications Act of 1996, telephone and cable companies are
> > > using the same political snake oil to convince compromised or
> > > clueless lawmakers to subvert the Internet into a turbo-charged
> > > digital retail machine.
> > >
> > > The telephone industry has been somewhat more candid than the cable
> > > industry about its strategy for the Internet's future. Senior phone
> > > executives have publicly discussed plans to begin imposing a new
> > > scheme for the delivery of Internet content, especially from major
> > > Internet content companies. As Ed Whitacre, chairman and CEO of
> > > AT&T, told Business Week in November, "Why should they be allowed
> > > to use my pipes? The Internet can't be free in that sense, because
> > > we and the cable companies have made an investment, and for a
> > > Google or Yahoo! or Vonage or anybody to expect to use these pipes
> > > [for] free is nuts!"
> > >
> > > The phone industry has marshaled its political allies to help win
> > > the freedom to impose this new broadband business model. At a
> > > recent conference held by the Progress and Freedom Foundation, a
> > > think tank funded by Comcast, Verizon, AT&T and other media
> > > companies, there was much discussion of a plan for phone companies
> > > to impose fees on a sliding scale, charging content providers
> > > different levels of service. "Price discrimination," noted PFF's
> > > resident media expert Adam Thierer, "drives the market-based
> > > capitalist economy."
> > >
> > > Net Neutrality
> > >
> > > To ward off the prospect of virtual toll booths on the information
> > > highway, some new media companies and public-interest groups are
> > > calling for new federal policies requiring "network neutrality" on
> > > the Internet. Common Cause, Amazon, Google, Free Press, Media
> > > Access Project and Consumers Union, among others, have proposed
> > > that broadband providers would be prohibited from d

RE: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?

2006-02-07 Thread Rob Kelley (yahoo)
Michael:

The Weekly Standard?  Ha, that may take awhile: "The Weekly Standard
magazine is considered the prime voice of Republican neoconservatives, and
one of the most influential publications in Washington under the Bush
Administration."
[http://www.disinfopedia.com/index.php?title=Weekly_Standard ]

The Network Neutrality issue represents the latest chapter in America's
ongoing Broadband Scandal.  We never got Fiber to the Home despite the extra
charges we took on our phone bills to pay for it.  Now Verizon finally comes
up with its overpriced fiber product, FiOS.  Bruce Kushnik puts it best:
"Where's the 45MB I already paid for!"
[http://muniwireless.com/community/1023 ]

Consumers have a vested interest in making sure the telcos are brought in to
account for the Broadband scandal. I remember the talk about needing to stay
competitive in an information economy.  Now, we're ranked 13th to 16th in
the world depending on which survey you read, behind Korea, Canada, Germany,
Sweden, Belgium, Italy and other nations.

These days the telco is the "troll under the bridge": it charges exorbitant
rates to consumers for substandard service. Now it's trying to charge
content providers as well.  Troll under the bridge. 

Game plan for consumers:
1. Fight for net neutrality and against the trolls under the bridge
2. Raise awareness of US Broadband ranking in the world
3. Spotlight the Broadband Scandal and demand the telcos be brought to
account for it. 

Rob Kelley


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael
Stearne
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 1:06 PM
To: Rob Kelley (yahoo)
Cc: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net
Subject: Re: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?

Let us know when The Weekly Standard endorses Network Neutrality,
until then it's not going to get any attention.

Good article though.

Michael


On 2/7/06, Rob Kelley (yahoo) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Nation gets hip to Network Neutrality...
>
> > From The Nation [posted online on February 1, 2006]
> >
> > http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060213/chester
> >
> > The End of the Internet?
> >
> > by JEFF CHESTER
> >
> > The nation's largest telephone and cable companies are crafting an
> > alarming set of strategies that would transform the free, open and
> > nondiscriminatory Internet of today to a privately run and branded
> > service that would charge a fee for virtually everything we do online.
> >
> > Verizon, Comcast, Bell South and other communications giants are
> > developing strategies that would track and store information on our
> > every move in cyberspace in a vast data-collection and marketing
> > system, the scope of which could rival the National Security
> > Agency. According to white papers now being circulated in the
> > cable, telephone and telecommunications industries, those with the
> > deepest pockets--corporations, special-interest groups and major
> > advertisers--would get preferred treatment. Content from these
> > providers would have first priority on our computer and television
> > screens, while information seen as undesirable, such as peer-to-
> > peer communications, could be relegated to a slow lane or simply
> > shut out.
> >
> > Under the plans they are considering, all of us--from content
> > providers to individual users--would pay more to surf online,
> > stream videos or even send e-mail. Industry planners are mulling
> > new subscription plans that would further limit the online
> > experience, establishing "platinum," "gold" and "silver" levels of
> > Internet access that would set limits on the number of downloads,
> > media streams or even e-mail messages that could be sent or received.
> >
> > To make this pay-to-play vision a reality, phone and cable
> > lobbyists are now engaged in a political campaign to further weaken
> > the nation's communications policy laws. They want the federal
> > government to permit them to operate Internet and other digital
> > communications services as private networks, free of policy
> > safeguards or governmental oversight. Indeed, both the Congress and
> > the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) are considering
> > proposals that will have far-reaching impact on the Internet's
> > future. Ten years after passage of the ill-advised
> > Telecommunications Act of 1996, telephone and cable companies are
> > using the same political snake oil to convince compromised or
> > clueless lawmakers to subvert the Internet into a turbo-charged
> > digital retail machine.
> >
> > The telephone industry has been some

Re: [nycwireless] The End of the Internet?

2006-02-07 Thread Michael Stearne
Let us know when The Weekly Standard endorses Network Neutrality,
until then it's not going to get any attention.

Good article though.

Michael


On 2/7/06, Rob Kelley (yahoo) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Nation gets hip to Network Neutrality...
>
> > From The Nation [posted online on February 1, 2006]
> >
> > http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060213/chester
> >
> > The End of the Internet?
> >
> > by JEFF CHESTER
> >
> > The nation's largest telephone and cable companies are crafting an
> > alarming set of strategies that would transform the free, open and
> > nondiscriminatory Internet of today to a privately run and branded
> > service that would charge a fee for virtually everything we do online.
> >
> > Verizon, Comcast, Bell South and other communications giants are
> > developing strategies that would track and store information on our
> > every move in cyberspace in a vast data-collection and marketing
> > system, the scope of which could rival the National Security
> > Agency. According to white papers now being circulated in the
> > cable, telephone and telecommunications industries, those with the
> > deepest pockets--corporations, special-interest groups and major
> > advertisers--would get preferred treatment. Content from these
> > providers would have first priority on our computer and television
> > screens, while information seen as undesirable, such as peer-to-
> > peer communications, could be relegated to a slow lane or simply
> > shut out.
> >
> > Under the plans they are considering, all of us--from content
> > providers to individual users--would pay more to surf online,
> > stream videos or even send e-mail. Industry planners are mulling
> > new subscription plans that would further limit the online
> > experience, establishing "platinum," "gold" and "silver" levels of
> > Internet access that would set limits on the number of downloads,
> > media streams or even e-mail messages that could be sent or received.
> >
> > To make this pay-to-play vision a reality, phone and cable
> > lobbyists are now engaged in a political campaign to further weaken
> > the nation's communications policy laws. They want the federal
> > government to permit them to operate Internet and other digital
> > communications services as private networks, free of policy
> > safeguards or governmental oversight. Indeed, both the Congress and
> > the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) are considering
> > proposals that will have far-reaching impact on the Internet's
> > future. Ten years after passage of the ill-advised
> > Telecommunications Act of 1996, telephone and cable companies are
> > using the same political snake oil to convince compromised or
> > clueless lawmakers to subvert the Internet into a turbo-charged
> > digital retail machine.
> >
> > The telephone industry has been somewhat more candid than the cable
> > industry about its strategy for the Internet's future. Senior phone
> > executives have publicly discussed plans to begin imposing a new
> > scheme for the delivery of Internet content, especially from major
> > Internet content companies. As Ed Whitacre, chairman and CEO of
> > AT&T, told Business Week in November, "Why should they be allowed
> > to use my pipes? The Internet can't be free in that sense, because
> > we and the cable companies have made an investment, and for a
> > Google or Yahoo! or Vonage or anybody to expect to use these pipes
> > [for] free is nuts!"
> >
> > The phone industry has marshaled its political allies to help win
> > the freedom to impose this new broadband business model. At a
> > recent conference held by the Progress and Freedom Foundation, a
> > think tank funded by Comcast, Verizon, AT&T and other media
> > companies, there was much discussion of a plan for phone companies
> > to impose fees on a sliding scale, charging content providers
> > different levels of service. "Price discrimination," noted PFF's
> > resident media expert Adam Thierer, "drives the market-based
> > capitalist economy."
> >
> > Net Neutrality
> >
> > To ward off the prospect of virtual toll booths on the information
> > highway, some new media companies and public-interest groups are
> > calling for new federal policies requiring "network neutrality" on
> > the Internet. Common Cause, Amazon, Google, Free Press, Media
> > Access Project and Consumers Union, among others, have proposed
> > that broadband providers would be prohibited from discriminating
> > against all forms of digital content. For example, phone or cable
> > companies would not be allowed to slow down competing or
> > undesirable content.
> >
> > Without proactive intervention, the values and issues that we care
> > about--civil rights, economic justice, the environment and fair
> > elections--will be further threatened by this push for corporate
> > control. Imagine how the next presidential election would unfold if
> > major political advertisers could make strategic payments to
> > Comcast so that ads fro

[nycwireless] The End of the Internet?

2006-02-07 Thread Rob Kelley (yahoo)
The Nation gets hip to Network Neutrality...

> From The Nation [posted online on February 1, 2006]
>
> http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060213/chester
>
> The End of the Internet?
>
> by JEFF CHESTER
>
> The nation's largest telephone and cable companies are crafting an  
> alarming set of strategies that would transform the free, open and  
> nondiscriminatory Internet of today to a privately run and branded  
> service that would charge a fee for virtually everything we do online.
>
> Verizon, Comcast, Bell South and other communications giants are  
> developing strategies that would track and store information on our  
> every move in cyberspace in a vast data-collection and marketing  
> system, the scope of which could rival the National Security  
> Agency. According to white papers now being circulated in the  
> cable, telephone and telecommunications industries, those with the  
> deepest pockets--corporations, special-interest groups and major  
> advertisers--would get preferred treatment. Content from these  
> providers would have first priority on our computer and television  
> screens, while information seen as undesirable, such as peer-to- 
> peer communications, could be relegated to a slow lane or simply  
> shut out.
>
> Under the plans they are considering, all of us--from content  
> providers to individual users--would pay more to surf online,  
> stream videos or even send e-mail. Industry planners are mulling  
> new subscription plans that would further limit the online  
> experience, establishing "platinum," "gold" and "silver" levels of  
> Internet access that would set limits on the number of downloads,  
> media streams or even e-mail messages that could be sent or received.
>
> To make this pay-to-play vision a reality, phone and cable  
> lobbyists are now engaged in a political campaign to further weaken  
> the nation's communications policy laws. They want the federal  
> government to permit them to operate Internet and other digital  
> communications services as private networks, free of policy  
> safeguards or governmental oversight. Indeed, both the Congress and  
> the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) are considering  
> proposals that will have far-reaching impact on the Internet's  
> future. Ten years after passage of the ill-advised  
> Telecommunications Act of 1996, telephone and cable companies are  
> using the same political snake oil to convince compromised or  
> clueless lawmakers to subvert the Internet into a turbo-charged  
> digital retail machine.
>
> The telephone industry has been somewhat more candid than the cable  
> industry about its strategy for the Internet's future. Senior phone  
> executives have publicly discussed plans to begin imposing a new  
> scheme for the delivery of Internet content, especially from major  
> Internet content companies. As Ed Whitacre, chairman and CEO of  
> AT&T, told Business Week in November, "Why should they be allowed  
> to use my pipes? The Internet can't be free in that sense, because  
> we and the cable companies have made an investment, and for a  
> Google or Yahoo! or Vonage or anybody to expect to use these pipes  
> [for] free is nuts!"
>
> The phone industry has marshaled its political allies to help win  
> the freedom to impose this new broadband business model. At a  
> recent conference held by the Progress and Freedom Foundation, a  
> think tank funded by Comcast, Verizon, AT&T and other media  
> companies, there was much discussion of a plan for phone companies  
> to impose fees on a sliding scale, charging content providers  
> different levels of service. "Price discrimination," noted PFF's  
> resident media expert Adam Thierer, "drives the market-based  
> capitalist economy."
>
> Net Neutrality
>
> To ward off the prospect of virtual toll booths on the information  
> highway, some new media companies and public-interest groups are  
> calling for new federal policies requiring "network neutrality" on  
> the Internet. Common Cause, Amazon, Google, Free Press, Media  
> Access Project and Consumers Union, among others, have proposed  
> that broadband providers would be prohibited from discriminating  
> against all forms of digital content. For example, phone or cable  
> companies would not be allowed to slow down competing or  
> undesirable content.
>
> Without proactive intervention, the values and issues that we care  
> about--civil rights, economic justice, the environment and fair  
> elections--will be further threatened by this push for corporate  
> control. Imagine how the next presidential election would unfold if  
> major political advertisers could make strategic payments to  
> Comcast so that ads from Democratic and Republican candidates were  
> more visible and user-friendly than ads of third-party candidates  
> with less funds. Consider what would happen if an online  
> advertisement promoting nuclear power prominently popped up on a  
> cable broa