Re: [nycwireless] WifiNetNews: Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio
Yes, but does this FCC ruling mean that any lease clauses that impose this kind of restriction are unenforceable? On Jun 29, 2004, at 1:31 AM, Tom Atkins wrote: Another way, highlighted in this article is to designate a WiFi authority for a particular chunk of real estate. I've seen this starting to happen a little more in suburban commercial leasing agreements. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] WifiNetNews: Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio
Could this end up in court. This probably falls under the same legal area as the FCC's crackdown on cell-phone jammers in theaters and fancy restaurants... you're just not allowed to interfere with with wireless communications anywhere, anytime unless the FCC says its ok. Contracts can often be much more restrictive than the law, but they can't contradict or pre-empt existing laws. On Jun 26, 2004, at 6:04 AM, Dustin wrote: This is great news and puts an end to the debate we have had many times as to whether or not a landlord could bar deployment of a wireless node. Does this mean that a commercial landlord cannot put a lease provision in reserving the right to control deployment of unlicensed wireless equipment? It seems for the most part landlords can stick whatever they want into a lease, especially a commercial lease. - Dustin - http://wifinetnews.com/archives/003937.html Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio The FCC says landlords, associations cant regulate Part 15 use: The FCCs Office of Engineering and Technology says that the function of regulating and coordinating frequency use is reserved to the FCC itself. Its a clear refutation of mall owners, airports, and condominium associations to limit use of Wi-Fi and other wireless technologies. (Document as Word, PDF, Text.) -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] WifiNetNews: Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio
this was totally different - more about opening a competitive front to cable tv and the right to put antennas on roofs of co-ops and rental apartment buildings (which you do have the inalienable right i believe) I recall there was a debate a few years ago about tenents being able to put up DTV satilites. This was ok'd. So, I cant see why they wouldn't allow you to send/recieve dtv and not allow you to send/recieve wifi or for that matter broadcast tv or radio. -Kev -- -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] WifiNetNews: Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio
Remember that harmful interference isn't defined in the unlicensed bands. Heh heh. Jim On Jun 25, 2004, at 11:08 PM, Anthony Townsend wrote: Could this end up in court. This probably falls under the same legal area as the FCC's crackdown on cell-phone jammers in theaters and fancy restaurants... you're just not allowed to interfere with with wireless communications anywhere, anytime unless the FCC says its ok. Contracts can often be much more restrictive than the law, but they can't contradict or pre-empt existing laws. On Jun 26, 2004, at 6:04 AM, Dustin wrote: This is great news and puts an end to the debate we have had many times as to whether or not a landlord could bar deployment of a wireless node. Does this mean that a commercial landlord cannot put a lease provision in reserving the right to control deployment of unlicensed wireless equipment? It seems for the most part landlords can stick whatever they want into a lease, especially a commercial lease. - Dustin - http://wifinetnews.com/archives/003937.html Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio The FCC says landlords, associations cant regulate Part 15 use: The FCCs Office of Engineering and Technology says that the function of regulating and coordinating frequency use is reserved to the FCC itself. Its a clear refutation of mall owners, airports, and condominium associations to limit use of Wi-Fi and other wireless technologies. (Document as Word, PDF, Text.) -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] WifiNetNews: Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio
Its actually the same 'law' that ensures you can do either. On Jun 25, 2004, at 11:09 PM, Anthony Townsend wrote: this was totally different - more about opening a competitive front to cable tv and the right to put antennas on roofs of co-ops and rental apartment buildings (which you do have the inalienable right i believe) I recall there was a debate a few years ago about tenents being able to put up DTV satilites. This was ok'd. So, I cant see why they wouldn't allow you to send/recieve dtv and not allow you to send/recieve wifi or for that matter broadcast tv or radio. -Kev -- -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] WifiNetNews: Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio
This is great news and puts an end to the debate we have had many times as to whether or not a landlord could bar deployment of a wireless node. Does this mean that a commercial landlord cannot put a lease provision in reserving the right to control deployment of unlicensed wireless equipment? It seems for the most part landlords can stick whatever they want into a lease, especially a commercial lease. - Dustin - http://wifinetnews.com/archives/003937.html Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio The FCC says landlords, associations cant regulate Part 15 use: The FCCs Office of Engineering and Technology says that the function of regulating and coordinating frequency use is reserved to the FCC itself. Its a clear refutation of mall owners, airports, and condominium associations to limit use of Wi-Fi and other wireless technologies. (Document as Word, PDF, Text.) -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] WifiNetNews: Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio
On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 05:04:26PM -0400, Dustin wrote: This is great news and puts an end to the debate we have had many times as to whether or not a landlord could bar deployment of a wireless node. Does this mean that a commercial landlord cannot put a lease provision in reserving the right to control deployment of unlicensed wireless equipment? It seems for the most part landlords can stick whatever they want into a lease, especially a commercial lease. - Dustin - http://wifinetnews.com/archives/003937.html Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio The FCC says landlords, associations cant regulate Part 15 use: The FCCs Office of Engineering and Technology says that the function of regulating and coordinating frequency use is reserved to the FCC itself. Its a clear refutation of mall owners, airports, and condominium associations to limit use of Wi-Fi and other wireless technologies. (Document as Word, PDF, Text.) Hi, I recall there was a debate a few years ago about tenents being able to put up DTV satilites. This was ok'd. So, I cant see why they wouldn't allow you to send/recieve dtv and not allow you to send/recieve wifi or for that matter broadcast tv or radio. -Kev -- (__) (oo) /--\/ / ||| * /\---/\ ~~ ~~ Have you mooed today?... -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
