RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Multichannel News - AnalystsQuestionBellInvestments
It's sad that IT is being outsourced but you have to adapt as times and the economy change. I used to be in the IT field but I changed to Engineering. Then, as a lowly user I often had to contend with IT types so obsessed with security that they would have completely prevented me and my teams from doing our jobs, if we hadn't just gone ahead and broken out of their image so we could function, maintain our networks and help our customers. Often I would go to consult with IT staff about a particular issue and they would be playing with Nerfball guns, surfing the web, shopping on eBay, while my team of field engineers and myself were working 70 hour weeks. You'd never even see them before 9 am in the morning and you would NEVER reach one of them at 2 or 3 am! That experience may have been unique to my job and my company, but it causes me to have less sympathy that all of those folks are no longer in those positions. Just my 2 cents. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruben Safir Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net Subject: RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Multichannel News - AnalystsQuestionBellInvestments On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 22:28, Jim Henry wrote: No. Check the stats. Do you read any business publications? Yeah as a matter of fact I read the Wall Street Journal DAILY including the moronic editorial on this exact topic 2 days ago. I'll tell you what else I read, the unemployment of IT professionals in NYC. Its fairly unpleasant for a lot of people who have been essentially screwed by Telco and the Cable Man (along with others I might add). Ruben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruben Safir Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net Subject: RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Multichannel News - Analysts QuestionBellInvestments Make the U.S. more competitive? Look around you! It is other nations who need to emulate us to attempt to compete with US. And as a relative measure against ourselves, by all the parameters used to measure the health of the U.S. economy (unemployment pct, cost of living, inflation, # people employed, home ownership, inflation, GDP, etc.) the U.S. economy has never been better or stronger. BTW this is rather insulting. Have you actually been sleepwalking through the last 6 years of the high tech economy? -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/278 - Release Date: 3/9/2006 -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/278 - Release Date: 3/9/2006 -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Multichannel News - AnalystsQuestionBellInvestments
Oye On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 22:58, Jim Henry wrote: It's sad that IT is being outsourced but you have to adapt as times and the economy change. I used to be in the IT field but I changed to Engineering. Then, as a lowly user I often had to contend with IT types so obsessed with security that they would have completely prevented me and my teams from doing our jobs, if we hadn't just gone ahead and broken out of their image so we could function, maintain our networks and help our customers. Often I would go to consult with IT staff about a particular issue and they would be playing with Nerfball guns, surfing the web, shopping on eBay, while my team of field engineers and myself were working 70 hour weeks. You'd never even see them before 9 am in the morning and you would NEVER reach one of them at 2 or 3 am! That experience may have been unique to my job and my company, but it causes me to have less sympathy that all of those folks are no longer in those positions. Just my 2 cents. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruben Safir Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net Subject: RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Multichannel News - AnalystsQuestionBellInvestments On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 22:28, Jim Henry wrote: No. Check the stats. Do you read any business publications? Yeah as a matter of fact I read the Wall Street Journal DAILY including the moronic editorial on this exact topic 2 days ago. I'll tell you what else I read, the unemployment of IT professionals in NYC. Its fairly unpleasant for a lot of people who have been essentially screwed by Telco and the Cable Man (along with others I might add). Ruben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruben Safir Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net Subject: RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Multichannel News - Analysts QuestionBellInvestments Make the U.S. more competitive? Look around you! It is other nations who need to emulate us to attempt to compete with US. And as a relative measure against ourselves, by all the parameters used to measure the health of the U.S. economy (unemployment pct, cost of living, inflation, # people employed, home ownership, inflation, GDP, etc.) the U.S. economy has never been better or stronger. BTW this is rather insulting. Have you actually been sleepwalking through the last 6 years of the high tech economy? -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/278 - Release Date: 3/9/2006 -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/278 - Release Date: 3/9/2006 -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Multichannel News - AnalystsQuestionBellInvestments
OK. I guess I just have to conclude you're hard of listening. I think we're done. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruben Safir Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net Subject: RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Multichannel News - AnalystsQuestionBellInvestments On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 22:27, Jim Henry wrote: Ruben, Telcos don't pay franchise fees in most cases to the best of my knowledge and are now doing their best to avoid paying them as cable companies do, even as the telcos begin to roll out video service. On the other hand, cable companies DO pay them. In addition, yes they also provide local access channels for the communities they serve. I don't know how you can interpret that as some sort of monopoly for either cable or telcos. These channels are USED by the local communities. This whole right up a load of jaargon laced claptrap. The telcos have exclusive rights to your house through an intermediary franchise granted by NYC whose name is escaping me at the moment. If not for the Federal Teleco Act to open up competition, even Covad would NEVER had happened. As for the Cable TV companies, they actively did a shakedown routine on local communities, holding up CTV access for a decade to shake out money. I remember this as a PRIMARY witness to the events after attending the hearing and being directly involved in political machinations at the time, especially when they left out Brooklyn and Bronx for decades and held up Rockville Center under a direct threat. Don't even attempt to rewrite the history. Alex Pilosoft was still learning basic English when these things were going down. They are PROVIDED by the cable companies at no charge and with no restrictions in ADDITION to the fees paid to the community. GOOD. Or they can rip out the cables and we can get a better carrier in there. No Problem Amigo. Ruben -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/278 - Release Date: 3/9/2006 -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Multichannel News - AnalystsQuestionBellInvestments
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 23:01, Jim Henry wrote: OK. I guess I just have to conclude you're hard of listening. I think we're done. Jim I'm sure that is the case with a lot of people you encounter (hint hint) -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
