Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Lynne Hertzog]

Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting.
Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html

Lynne Hertzog
On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, "Cesar Castillo"  wrote:

> Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this?
> This reminds me of
> The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
>
>
>   On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund <
> james...@optonline.net> wrote:
>  There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can "hunt" Corvids in
> Suffolk County 4 days a week for half the year -- September through March.
>  They make no distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of
> *Corvus* *corax*  only adds targets.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Cesar Castillo]

Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this?  
This reminds me of 
The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow



On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund  
wrote:
 
There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can "hunt" Corvids in Suffolk 
County 4 days a week for half the year — September through March.  They make no 
distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of Corvus corax  only 
adds targets. 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Jim Osterlund]

There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can "hunt" Corvids in Suffolk 
County 4 days a week for half the year — September through March.  They make no 
distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of Corvus corax  only 
adds targets.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Stella Miller]

I have reached out to the DEC to try and get the ball rolling.  This is 
outrageous.   

Stella Miller




"Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding 
whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the 
understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is 
between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy



 From: Susan Krause 
To: "redk...@optonline.net" ; Richard 
 
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L  
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
 


so let's try to stop it.
Sue



On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:32 PM, "redk...@optonline.net" 
 wrote:
 
Richard- I couldn't agree more. This is sickening and should not be something 
that the NYS DEC should allow to occurmaybe Rip Van Winkle can just go back 
to sleep.

John Turner 

- Original Message -
From: Richard 
Date: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:53 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
To: NYSBIRDS-L 

> The Rip Van Winkle Rod and Gun Club, Palenville, NY, has 
> scheduled a "Crow Down" for March 30 - 31. Their  object is as 
> they  say: "Wanted Dead or Alive - Crows". 
> 
> Their poster can be seen by checking their Facebook page. 
> 
> Unfortunately this "sport" is allowed by NYS Department of 
> Environmental Conservation. 
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> I think it's time for change. 
> 
> Rich Guthrie 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Susan Krause]

so let's try to stop it.
Sue



On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:32 PM, "redk...@optonline.net" 
 wrote:
 
Richard- I couldn't agree more. This is sickening and should not be something 
that the NYS DEC should allow to occurmaybe Rip Van Winkle can just go back 
to sleep.

John Turner 

- Original Message -
From: Richard 
Date: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:53 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
To: NYSBIRDS-L 

> The Rip Van Winkle Rod and Gun Club, Palenville, NY, has 
> scheduled a "Crow Down" for March 30 - 31. Their  object is as 
> they  say: "Wanted Dead or Alive - Crows". 
> 
> Their poster can be seen by checking their Facebook page. 
> 
> Unfortunately this "sport" is allowed by NYS Department of 
> Environmental Conservation. 
> 
> I think it's time for change. 
> 
> Rich Guthrie 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[redknot]

Richard- I couldn't agree more. This is sickening and should not be something 
that the NYS DEC should allow to occurmaybe Rip Van Winkle can just go back 
to sleep.

John Turner 

- Original Message -
From: Richard 
Date: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:53 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
To: NYSBIRDS-L 

> The Rip Van Winkle Rod and Gun Club, Palenville, NY, has 
> scheduled a "Crow Down" for March 30 - 31. Their object is as 
> they say: "Wanted Dead or Alive - Crows". 
> 
> Their poster can be seen by checking their Facebook page. 
> 
> Unfortunately this "sport" is allowed by NYS Department of 
> Environmental Conservation. 
> 
> I think it's time for change. 
> 
> Rich Guthrie 
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[nysbirds-l] Hudson River Schuylerville to Stillwater

[scottvarney1968]

Today's catch on the Upper Hudson from Schuylerville to Stillwater included 
Redheads, Canvasbacks, FOY American Widgeon, Pintails, FOY Pied-billed Grebe, 
FOY Turkey Vulture, FOY Wood Duck. Also saw a growing number of Ring-necked 
Ducks, Common Goldeneyes, and Scaup.  Perhaps best sight of the day were 2 
Tundra Swans at Admirals Marina in Stillwater.  Spring migrations are 
officially under way in the lower Adirondack region of NY. Happy Birding!  

Scott Varney
The Daks

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[nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Richard]

The Rip Van Winkle Rod and Gun Club, Palenville, NY, has scheduled a "Crow 
Down" for March 30 - 31. Their  object is as they  say: "Wanted Dead or Alive - 
Crows". 

Their poster can be seen by checking their Facebook page. 

Unfortunately this "sport" is allowed by NYS Department of Environmental 
Conservation.  

I think it's time for change. 

Rich Guthrie 



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Re: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe

[redknot]

By 3:30 it had moved north into the eastern lobe of the reservoir in the 
Massapequa Preserve about 50 yards south of the bikepath bridge. Great looks 
provided from the shoreline adjacent to Brady Park. A few ring-necked ducks anf 
hooded mergansers on the water.  Also had a FOS osprey making a FOS dive on a 
fish that will not live to see the Spring.

John Turner

- Original Message -
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Date: Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:52 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe
To: "NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu" 

> A Red-necked Grebe was observed by myself and Ed Becher at Massapequa
> preserve on the lake/reservoir near the train tracks.
> Bob Proniewych
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[nysbirds-l] Red-headed Wood. & other reds

[Steve Walter]

I hadn't heard reports of this bird in over four months and I wouldn't
usually think to chase such birds, but I did today. And it's still there -
namely the RED-HEADED WOODPECKER at Muttontown Preserve. This in an
immature, now sporting a fair amount of red on the head. To look for it,
take the trail southeastward from the nature center. Within site of the
nature center, there's a vernal pond on the right. Look in the trees
surrounding the pond, usually about two-thirds the way up toward the tops of
the trees. A picture can be seen at http://www.stevewalternature.com/ .

 

>From there, I hit some water spots on the north shore. A RED-NECKED GREBE
was at the end of the long (closed off) pier in Oyster Bay. A dozen Common
Mergansers and two Pintails were among the ducks on nearby Mill Pond, with
an Osprey flying over. St. John's Pond had a robust number of about 80
Ring-necked Ducks and a pair of Redheads. On the east side of Cold Spring
Harbor, there were two RED-NECKED GREBES, both at one time or another close
to the little fishing pier almost opposite the Harbor Mist restaurant. One
of these is in very nice plumage. I've been keeping tabs on the two that I
found on the Mill River for the opportunity to get breeding plumage
pictures. I'd been seeing what I assumed to be the same two weekly, although
upriver from the original spot. I only found one yesterday, but the bill
pattern suggested a new individual. So they seem to be still shuffling
around.

 

Back on Redheads, there was a cooperative pair fairly close to shore on
Baldwin's Milburn Pond, if you're looking for that. Yea, Redheads everywhere
now. In Queens, there were 36 on Baisley Pond last weekend and two continue
on Oakland Lake.

 

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Bayside, NY


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[nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe

[Robert A. Proniewych]

A Red-necked Grebe was observed by myself and Ed Becher at Massapequa
preserve on the lake/reservoir near the train tracks.
Bob Proniewych

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Hybrid Goose Question and Photos, Randall's Island

[Steve Walter]

Shai's sleuth work led to my post from two winters ago. If you were looking
for the picture, the current link is

http://www.stevewalternature.com/birds/geese.htm . Another link is Angus
Wilson's  
http://www.oceanwanderers.com/OddBrant.html . The upshot of this is that the
Randall's Island bird is very likely the same one that's been seen
intermittently at Flushing Meadow - Corona Park in Queens since January
2003. The interaction of the hybrid with other Brant, as reported by Anya,
is consistent with what I've seen. 

 

Steve Walter

Bayside, NY

 

From: bounce-113283961-8873...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-113283961-8873...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal
Mitra
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:10 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Hybrid Goose Question and Photos, Randall's Island

 

Cool-looking bird!

 

It or one like it seems to pop up around here about every three years or so,
at intervals just long enough that it's difficult to remember all the
details.  I found this archived page and am sure I have some stuff about it
in my files:

 

https://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/msg05961.html

 

Shai Mitra  

Bay Shore 

 

 

On Mar 16, 2014, at 12:08 AM, AA Fawkes  wrote:

Hi all; 

 

A hybrid goose has spent the winter with the brant flock on Randall's
Island, first noted (by me, at least) in January the same day the barnacle
goose was found. It appears very similar to a dark brant, but aside from the
obvious darker coloration, particularly on the flanks, and reduced black on
the neck, there is also reduced white uppertail coverts and subtly different
head and neck shape. Brant x Cackling goose has been suggested and seems
plausible to me, although I don't know if this combination has been ever
definitively recorded. A few pictures taken today are on my flickr page,
below. Also of interest, every time I have seen it this bird has kept to the
very edge of the brant flock- the other birds don't seem fond of it.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/elwingflight/sets/72157640157804394/

 

Anya Auerbach

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[nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe on Tappen Beach

[Avery Scott (SkyOfBirds)]

I observed a Red-necked Grebe on Tappen Beach in Sea Cliff, NY today. It
was over on the other side near North Hempstead Beach Park, floating and
bobbing in front of the various boats and piers. Also observed a seal in
the water.

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[nysbirds-l] C.P., NYC [grebe yes], 3/16

[Thomas Fiore]

Central Park, Manhattan, N.Y. City  -  16 March, 2014

An after-noon pass thru the park offered a chance to check the  
reservoir again, and this time the Red-necked Grebe was seen, diving  
quite regularly - and still doing so when last seen watched at about  
2:45 by which time it had moved well towards the center (a little west  
of the dike) & thus quite difficult to spot easily. I saw that it  
appears to be same individual as previous days. (a chance of a newly- 
arrived indiv. also struck me as I saw the cross-posted report A.P.  
sent, and it seems reasonable - unlike most years - that this could  
yet happen; there've now been 2 clearly-different Red-necked Grebes  
this month in Central Park, 1 differently-plumaged individual at the  
Hudson river off Manhattan, & at least 1 additionally seen out by  
Randall's island well east of Manhattan island.

I spent a little time focusing on the gull gathering at the remaining  
ice at the reservoir this afternoon but did not come up with anything  
notable in gulls. Some of this morning's duck variety were still  
present, but dispersed much more widely in the opening water. Also I  
may have neglected to note that as many as 8 Hooded Mergansers had  
been in the park today, with 6 at once on the res. plus a pair at the  
meer early in the a.m.  Lots of waterfowl certainly on the move all  
over...

good birding,

Tom Fiore
Manhattan
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[nysbirds-l] Red-headed Woodpecker, Hauppauge

[glennq]

Red-headed Woodpecker still present in Hauppauge (Suffolk) today, along with a 
Yellow-bellied Sapsucker.

Also, a lone Turkey Vulture heading north over Motor Parkway in Hauppauge, 
yesterday.

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[nysbirds-l] Fwd: [ebirdsnyc] Central park reservoir - red-necked grebe - yes

[Anders Peltomaa]

Forwarding a positive report on the Red-necked Grebe.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Hybrid Goose Question and Photos, Randall's Island

[AA Fawkes]

The photos were taken yesterday, it's probably still there. The flock
sticks around the NE corner of the island.

Anya Auerbach


On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Shaibal Mitra
wrote:

>  Cool-looking bird!
>
>  It or one like it seems to pop up around here about every three years or
> so, at intervals just long enough that it's difficult to remember all the
> details.  I found this archived page and am sure I have some stuff about it
> in my files:
>
>  https://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/msg05961.html
>
>  Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
>
>
>  On Mar 16, 2014, at 12:08 AM, AA Fawkes  wrote:
>
>   Hi all;
>
>  A hybrid goose has spent the winter with the brant flock on Randall's
> Island, first noted (by me, at least) in January the same day the barnacle
> goose was found. It appears very similar to a dark brant, but aside from
> the obvious darker coloration, particularly on the flanks, and reduced
> black on the neck, there is also reduced white uppertail coverts and subtly
> different head and neck shape. Brant x Cackling goose has been suggested
> and seems plausible to me, although I don't know if this combination has
> been ever definitively recorded. A few pictures taken today are on my
> flickr page, below. Also of interest, every time I have seen it this bird
> has kept to the very edge of the brant flock- the other birds don't seem
> fond of it.
>
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/elwingflight/sets/72157640157804394/
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Re:[nysbirds-l] Reservoir [Central Park, NYC] 3/16

[Thomas Fiore]

Sunday, 16 March, 2014 - Central Park, Manhattan, N.Y. City

Agreeing with Anders on what was NOT seen this a.m. at the reservoir,  
beginning at pre-sunrise thru 7:45am, NO red-necked grebe, no wigeon,  
& no ring-necked duck, anywhere on any portion of the reservoir's  
water or shores. Nor, at any other waterbody in the park... single  
Ruddy Duck apparently new to this season (what season is this,  
anyhow!) and over at the Lake, a Double-crested Cormorant was new to  
me this year in the park. I did see 7 Wood Ducks, 5 at the south part  
of the reservoir, plus a pair at the Lake. Good numbers of N.  
Shovelers continue at the Lake, a few at the reservoir. At least one  
Gadwall at reservoir, and multiples of Bufflehead; a modest & typical  
ass't. of waterfowl & a few gulls coming on the Meer now that it like  
other waterbodies is losing ice, gaining open water.

A look at the feeders after 8 a.m. was inconclusive for certain  
species that had been around there and nearby (pine warbler, Baltimore  
orioles) as I didn't linger long enough to see a lot.  There & in a  
few other areas of the Ramble were "red" Fox Sparrows, some singing  
nicely. I eventually ran into just 1 Yellow-bellied Sapsucker at the  
Pinetum. The hordes of half-marathon runners & joggers convinced me  
not to do all my usual routes although by about 10, that was pretty  
much finished.  One American Woodcock was inadvertently and  
unintentionally flushed in the Ramble and went I-know-not-where.

Some of the earliest-blooming flowers have come up, with signs that  
more will be as (if ever!) temp's stay above freezing for more than 1  
day. Plenty of resident & a few of the overwintering birds have been  
singing.

Good birding,

Tom Fiore
Manhattan

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On Mar 16, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Anders Peltomaa wrote:
> Waterfowl numbers are much lower today. I just finished  a walk  
> around the reservoir: no sighting of the Red-necked Grebe, Ring- 
> necked Duck or American Wigeon. Neither did I see any Wood Duck,  
> although there might be some near the central South end which I  
> couldn't cover as i was walking with our dog.
>
> The male and female Red-breasted merganser were on the West side.  
> One Ruddy Duck at the SW corner.
>
> Anders Peltomaa
> Manhattan
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Re:[nysbirds-l] NYC, Reservoir

[Anders Peltomaa]

Waterfowl numbers are much lower today. I just finished  a walk around the
reservoir: no sighting of the Red-necked Grebe, Ring-necked Duck or
American Wigeon. Neither did I see any Wood Duck, although there might be
some near the central South end which I couldn't cover as i was walking
with our dog.

The male and female Red-breasted merganser were on the West side. One Ruddy
Duck at the SW corner.

Anders Peltomaa
Manhattan

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On Mar 15, 2014 10:30 AM, "Anders Peltomaa" 
wrote:

> Hi all,
> Forwarding a report to NYNYBIRD:
> CP Reservoir South East Corner Red-necked Grebe, American Wigeon,
> Ring-necked Duck.
>
> Anders Peltomaa
> Manhattan
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Hybrid Goose Question and Photos, Randall's Island

[Shaibal Mitra]

Cool-looking bird!

It or one like it seems to pop up around here about every three years or so, at 
intervals just long enough that it's difficult to remember all the details.  I 
found this archived page and am sure I have some stuff about it in my files:

https://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/msg05961.html

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore


On Mar 16, 2014, at 12:08 AM, AA Fawkes 
mailto:aafaw...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all;

A hybrid goose has spent the winter with the brant flock on Randall's Island, 
first noted (by me, at least) in January the same day the barnacle goose was 
found. It appears very similar to a dark brant, but aside from the obvious 
darker coloration, particularly on the flanks, and reduced black on the neck, 
there is also reduced white uppertail coverts and subtly different head and 
neck shape. Brant x Cackling goose has been suggested and seems plausible to 
me, although I don't know if this combination has been ever definitively 
recorded. A few pictures taken today are on my flickr page, below. Also of 
interest, every time I have seen it this bird has kept to the very edge of the 
brant flock- the other birds don't seem fond of it.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/elwingflight/sets/72157640157804394/

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Hybrid Goose Question and Photos, Randall's Island

[Shaibal Mitra]

Cool-looking bird!

It or one like it seems to pop up around here about every three years or so, at 
intervals just long enough that it's difficult to remember all the details.  I 
found this archived page and am sure I have some stuff about it in my files:

https://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/msg05961.html

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore


On Mar 16, 2014, at 12:08 AM, AA Fawkes 
aafaw...@gmail.commailto:aafaw...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all;

A hybrid goose has spent the winter with the brant flock on Randall's Island, 
first noted (by me, at least) in January the same day the barnacle goose was 
found. It appears very similar to a dark brant, but aside from the obvious 
darker coloration, particularly on the flanks, and reduced black on the neck, 
there is also reduced white uppertail coverts and subtly different head and 
neck shape. Brant x Cackling goose has been suggested and seems plausible to 
me, although I don't know if this combination has been ever definitively 
recorded. A few pictures taken today are on my flickr page, below. Also of 
interest, every time I have seen it this bird has kept to the very edge of the 
brant flock- the other birds don't seem fond of it.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/elwingflight/sets/72157640157804394/

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Re:[nysbirds-l] NYC, Reservoir

[Anders Peltomaa]

Waterfowl numbers are much lower today. I just finished  a walk around the
reservoir: no sighting of the Red-necked Grebe, Ring-necked Duck or
American Wigeon. Neither did I see any Wood Duck, although there might be
some near the central South end which I couldn't cover as i was walking
with our dog.

The male and female Red-breasted merganser were on the West side. One Ruddy
Duck at the SW corner.

Anders Peltomaa
Manhattan

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On Mar 15, 2014 10:30 AM, Anders Peltomaa anders.pelto...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi all,
 Forwarding a report to NYNYBIRD:
 CP Reservoir South East Corner Red-necked Grebe, American Wigeon,
 Ring-necked Duck.

 Anders Peltomaa
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Re:[nysbirds-l] Reservoir [Central Park, NYC] 3/16

[Thomas Fiore]

Sunday, 16 March, 2014 - Central Park, Manhattan, N.Y. City

Agreeing with Anders on what was NOT seen this a.m. at the reservoir,  
beginning at pre-sunrise thru 7:45am, NO red-necked grebe, no wigeon,  
 no ring-necked duck, anywhere on any portion of the reservoir's  
water or shores. Nor, at any other waterbody in the park... single  
Ruddy Duck apparently new to this season (what season is this,  
anyhow!) and over at the Lake, a Double-crested Cormorant was new to  
me this year in the park. I did see 7 Wood Ducks, 5 at the south part  
of the reservoir, plus a pair at the Lake. Good numbers of N.  
Shovelers continue at the Lake, a few at the reservoir. At least one  
Gadwall at reservoir, and multiples of Bufflehead; a modest  typical  
ass't. of waterfowl  a few gulls coming on the Meer now that it like  
other waterbodies is losing ice, gaining open water.

A look at the feeders after 8 a.m. was inconclusive for certain  
species that had been around there and nearby (pine warbler, Baltimore  
orioles) as I didn't linger long enough to see a lot.  There  in a  
few other areas of the Ramble were red Fox Sparrows, some singing  
nicely. I eventually ran into just 1 Yellow-bellied Sapsucker at the  
Pinetum. The hordes of half-marathon runners  joggers convinced me  
not to do all my usual routes although by about 10, that was pretty  
much finished.  One American Woodcock was inadvertently and  
unintentionally flushed in the Ramble and went I-know-not-where.

Some of the earliest-blooming flowers have come up, with signs that  
more will be as (if ever!) temp's stay above freezing for more than 1  
day. Plenty of resident  a few of the overwintering birds have been  
singing.

Good birding,

Tom Fiore
Manhattan

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 Waterfowl numbers are much lower today. I just finished  a walk  
 around the reservoir: no sighting of the Red-necked Grebe, Ring- 
 necked Duck or American Wigeon. Neither did I see any Wood Duck,  
 although there might be some near the central South end which I  
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 The male and female Red-breasted merganser were on the West side.  
 One Ruddy Duck at the SW corner.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Hybrid Goose Question and Photos, Randall's Island

[AA Fawkes]

The photos were taken yesterday, it's probably still there. The flock
sticks around the NE corner of the island.

Anya Auerbach


On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Shaibal Mitra
shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.eduwrote:

  Cool-looking bird!

  It or one like it seems to pop up around here about every three years or
 so, at intervals just long enough that it's difficult to remember all the
 details.  I found this archived page and am sure I have some stuff about it
 in my files:

  https://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/msg05961.html

  Shai Mitra
 Bay Shore


  On Mar 16, 2014, at 12:08 AM, AA Fawkes aafaw...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi all;

  A hybrid goose has spent the winter with the brant flock on Randall's
 Island, first noted (by me, at least) in January the same day the barnacle
 goose was found. It appears very similar to a dark brant, but aside from
 the obvious darker coloration, particularly on the flanks, and reduced
 black on the neck, there is also reduced white uppertail coverts and subtly
 different head and neck shape. Brant x Cackling goose has been suggested
 and seems plausible to me, although I don't know if this combination has
 been ever definitively recorded. A few pictures taken today are on my
 flickr page, below. Also of interest, every time I have seen it this bird
 has kept to the very edge of the brant flock- the other birds don't seem
 fond of it.

  https://www.flickr.com/photos/elwingflight/sets/72157640157804394/

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[nysbirds-l] C.P., NYC [grebe yes], 3/16

[Thomas Fiore]

Central Park, Manhattan, N.Y. City  -  16 March, 2014

An after-noon pass thru the park offered a chance to check the  
reservoir again, and this time the Red-necked Grebe was seen, diving  
quite regularly - and still doing so when last seen watched at about  
2:45 by which time it had moved well towards the center (a little west  
of the dike)  thus quite difficult to spot easily. I saw that it  
appears to be same individual as previous days. (a chance of a newly- 
arrived indiv. also struck me as I saw the cross-posted report A.P.  
sent, and it seems reasonable - unlike most years - that this could  
yet happen; there've now been 2 clearly-different Red-necked Grebes  
this month in Central Park, 1 differently-plumaged individual at the  
Hudson river off Manhattan,  at least 1 additionally seen out by  
Randall's island well east of Manhattan island.

I spent a little time focusing on the gull gathering at the remaining  
ice at the reservoir this afternoon but did not come up with anything  
notable in gulls. Some of this morning's duck variety were still  
present, but dispersed much more widely in the opening water. Also I  
may have neglected to note that as many as 8 Hooded Mergansers had  
been in the park today, with 6 at once on the res. plus a pair at the  
meer early in the a.m.  Lots of waterfowl certainly on the move all  
over...

good birding,

Tom Fiore
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[nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe on Tappen Beach

[Avery Scott (SkyOfBirds)]

I observed a Red-necked Grebe on Tappen Beach in Sea Cliff, NY today. It
was over on the other side near North Hempstead Beach Park, floating and
bobbing in front of the various boats and piers. Also observed a seal in
the water.

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Hybrid Goose Question and Photos, Randall's Island

[Steve Walter]

Shai's sleuth work led to my post from two winters ago. If you were looking
for the picture, the current link is
http://www.stevewalternature.com/birds/geese.htm
http://www.stevewalternature.com/birds/geese.htm . Another link is Angus
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Randall's Island bird is very likely the same one that's been seen
intermittently at Flushing Meadow - Corona Park in Queens since January
2003. The interaction of the hybrid with other Brant, as reported by Anya,
is consistent with what I've seen. 

 

Steve Walter

Bayside, NY

 

From: bounce-113283961-8873...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-113283961-8873...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal
Mitra
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:10 AM
To: NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Hybrid Goose Question and Photos, Randall's Island

 

Cool-looking bird!

 

It or one like it seems to pop up around here about every three years or so,
at intervals just long enough that it's difficult to remember all the
details.  I found this archived page and am sure I have some stuff about it
in my files:

 

https://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/msg05961.html

 

Shai Mitra  

Bay Shore 

 

 

On Mar 16, 2014, at 12:08 AM, AA Fawkes aafaw...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all; 

 

A hybrid goose has spent the winter with the brant flock on Randall's
Island, first noted (by me, at least) in January the same day the barnacle
goose was found. It appears very similar to a dark brant, but aside from the
obvious darker coloration, particularly on the flanks, and reduced black on
the neck, there is also reduced white uppertail coverts and subtly different
head and neck shape. Brant x Cackling goose has been suggested and seems
plausible to me, although I don't know if this combination has been ever
definitively recorded. A few pictures taken today are on my flickr page,
below. Also of interest, every time I have seen it this bird has kept to the
very edge of the brant flock- the other birds don't seem fond of it.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/elwingflight/sets/72157640157804394/

 

Anya Auerbach

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[nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe

[Robert A. Proniewych]

A Red-necked Grebe was observed by myself and Ed Becher at Massapequa
preserve on the lake/reservoir near the train tracks.
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[nysbirds-l] Red-headed Wood. other reds

[Steve Walter]

I hadn't heard reports of this bird in over four months and I wouldn't
usually think to chase such birds, but I did today. And it's still there -
namely the RED-HEADED WOODPECKER at Muttontown Preserve. This in an
immature, now sporting a fair amount of red on the head. To look for it,
take the trail southeastward from the nature center. Within site of the
nature center, there's a vernal pond on the right. Look in the trees
surrounding the pond, usually about two-thirds the way up toward the tops of
the trees. A picture can be seen at http://www.stevewalternature.com/ .

 

From there, I hit some water spots on the north shore. A RED-NECKED GREBE
was at the end of the long (closed off) pier in Oyster Bay. A dozen Common
Mergansers and two Pintails were among the ducks on nearby Mill Pond, with
an Osprey flying over. St. John's Pond had a robust number of about 80
Ring-necked Ducks and a pair of Redheads. On the east side of Cold Spring
Harbor, there were two RED-NECKED GREBES, both at one time or another close
to the little fishing pier almost opposite the Harbor Mist restaurant. One
of these is in very nice plumage. I've been keeping tabs on the two that I
found on the Mill River for the opportunity to get breeding plumage
pictures. I'd been seeing what I assumed to be the same two weekly, although
upriver from the original spot. I only found one yesterday, but the bill
pattern suggested a new individual. So they seem to be still shuffling
around.

 

Back on Redheads, there was a cooperative pair fairly close to shore on
Baldwin's Milburn Pond, if you're looking for that. Yea, Redheads everywhere
now. In Queens, there were 36 on Baisley Pond last weekend and two continue
on Oakland Lake.

 

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Bayside, NY


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe

[redknot]

By 3:30 it had moved north into the eastern lobe of the reservoir in the 
Massapequa Preserve about 50 yards south of the bikepath bridge. Great looks 
provided from the shoreline adjacent to Brady Park. A few ring-necked ducks anf 
hooded mergansers on the water.  Also had a FOS osprey making a FOS dive on a 
fish that will not live to see the Spring.

John Turner

- Original Message -
From: Robert A. Proniewych 
Date: Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:52 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe
To: NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu 

 A Red-necked Grebe was observed by myself and Ed Becher at Massapequa
 preserve on the lake/reservoir near the train tracks.
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[nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Richard]

The Rip Van Winkle Rod and Gun Club, Palenville, NY, has scheduled a Crow 
Down for March 30 - 31. Their  object is as they  say: Wanted Dead or Alive - 
Crows. 

Their poster can be seen by checking their Facebook page. 

Unfortunately this sport is allowed by NYS Department of Environmental 
Conservation.  

I think it's time for change. 

Rich Guthrie 



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[nysbirds-l] Hudson River Schuylerville to Stillwater

[scottvarney1968]

Today's catch on the Upper Hudson from Schuylerville to Stillwater included 
Redheads, Canvasbacks, FOY American Widgeon, Pintails, FOY Pied-billed Grebe, 
FOY Turkey Vulture, FOY Wood Duck. Also saw a growing number of Ring-necked 
Ducks, Common Goldeneyes, and Scaup.  Perhaps best sight of the day were 2 
Tundra Swans at Admirals Marina in Stillwater.  Spring migrations are 
officially under way in the lower Adirondack region of NY. Happy Birding!  

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The Daks

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[redknot]

Richard- I couldn't agree more. This is sickening and should not be something 
that the NYS DEC should allow to occurmaybe Rip Van Winkle can just go back 
to sleep.

John Turner 

- Original Message -
From: Richard 
Date: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:53 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
To: NYSBIRDS-L 

 The Rip Van Winkle Rod and Gun Club, Palenville, NY, has 
 scheduled a Crow Down for March 30 - 31. Their object is as 
 they say: Wanted Dead or Alive - Crows. 
 
 Their poster can be seen by checking their Facebook page. 
 
 Unfortunately this sport is allowed by NYS Department of 
 Environmental Conservation. 
 
 I think it's time for change. 
 
 Rich Guthrie 
 
 
 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Susan Krause]

so let's try to stop it.
Sue



On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:32 PM, redk...@optonline.net 
redk...@optonline.net wrote:
 
Richard- I couldn't agree more. This is sickening and should not be something 
that the NYS DEC should allow to occurmaybe Rip Van Winkle can just go back 
to sleep.

John Turner 

- Original Message -
From: Richard 
Date: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:53 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
To: NYSBIRDS-L 

 The Rip Van Winkle Rod and Gun Club, Palenville, NY, has 
 scheduled a Crow Down for March 30 - 31. Their  object is as 
 they  say: Wanted Dead or Alive - Crows. 
 
 Their poster can be seen by checking their Facebook page. 
 
 Unfortunately this sport is allowed by NYS Department of 
 Environmental Conservation. 
 
 I think it's time for change. 
 
 Rich Guthrie 
 
 
 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Stella Miller]

I have reached out to the DEC to try and get the ball rolling.  This is 
outrageous.   

Stella Miller




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whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the 
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between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy



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To: redk...@optonline.net redk...@optonline.net; Richard 
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Cc: NYSBIRDS-L NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
 


so let's try to stop it.
Sue



On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:32 PM, redk...@optonline.net 
redk...@optonline.net wrote:
 
Richard- I couldn't agree more. This is sickening and should not be something 
that the NYS DEC should allow to occurmaybe Rip Van Winkle can just go back 
to sleep.

John Turner 

- Original Message -
From: Richard 
Date: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:53 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
To: NYSBIRDS-L 

 The Rip Van Winkle Rod and Gun Club, Palenville, NY, has 
 scheduled a Crow Down for March 30 - 31. Their  object is as 
 they  say: Wanted Dead or Alive - Crows. 
 
 Their poster can be seen by checking their Facebook page. 
 
 Unfortunately this sport is allowed by NYS Department of 
 Environmental Conservation. 
 
 I think it's time for change. 
 
 Rich Guthrie 
 
 
 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Jim Osterlund]

There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can hunt Corvids in Suffolk 
County 4 days a week for half the year — September through March.  They make no 
distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of Corvus corax  only 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Cesar Castillo]

Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this?  
This reminds me of 
The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow



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County 4 days a week for half the year — September through March.  They make no 
distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of Corvus corax  only 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Lynne Hertzog]

Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting.
Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html

Lynne Hertzog
On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this?
 This reminds me of
 The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow


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 *NYSbirds-L List Info:*
 Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME
 Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES
 Subscribe, Configuration and 
 Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
 *Archives:*
 The Mail 
 Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
 Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
 BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html
 *Please submit your observations to **eBird*http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
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NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html

Please submit your observations to eBird:
http://ebird.org/content/ebird/

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