[nysbirds-l] Sandwich Tern at Cupsogue (Yes)

[Anthony Collerton]

Currently roosting on the mussel beds West of the main flat.

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[nysbirds-l] Thayer's Gull - the species that never was?

[Andrew Baksh]

By now some of you have already heard that the AOU has taken the decision to 
invalidate Thayer's Gull.

A bit of background: Considered a subspecies of the Herring Gull by the AOU 
until 1973. Thayer's Gull, received full species status based largely on the 
research of A.H. Macpherson and Neil Smith in the 1960's. Smith's work which 
suggested Thayer's and Kumlien's Gulls mated as separate species on Baffin 
Island was viewed with much skepticism and this decision by the AOU appears to 
debunk his claim.

Ron Pittaway, a respected authority on this subject has published an excellent 
account of the history of this taxonomical debate and is worth reading for 
those interested.

http://www.ofo.ca/site/page/view/articles.thayer


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火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Thayer's Gull - the species that never was?

[Paul R Sweet]

Hi Andrew

I've seen the proposals 
http://checklist.aou.org/nacc/proposals/current_proposals.html
But your post indicates the votes have been cast. Is this posted? Curious about 
decision on other splits - Yellow-rump, Willet, Harrier, Junco etc.

Cheers, Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Jul 1, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Andrew Baksh 
mailto:birdingd...@gmail.com>> wrote:

By now some of you have already heard that the AOU has taken the decision to 
invalidate Thayer's Gull.

A bit of background: Considered a subspecies of the Herring Gull by the AOU 
until 1973. Thayer's Gull, received full species status based largely on the 
research of A.H. Macpherson and Neil Smith in the 1960's. Smith's work which 
suggested Thayer's and Kumlien's Gulls mated as separate species on Baffin 
Island was viewed with much skepticism and this decision by the AOU appears to 
debunk his claim.

Ron Pittaway, a respected authority on this subject has published an excellent 
account of the history of this taxonomical debate and is worth reading for 
those interested.

http://www.ofo.ca/site/page/view/articles.thayer


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun 
Tzu
  The Art of 
War

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Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Thayer's Gull - the species that never was?

[Donna Schulman]

Paul,

So far, the Supplement has not been published, but the checklist reflects
decisions: http://checklist.aou.org/taxa/

As Brendan Fogarty pointed out on Facebook, Thayer's Gull is gone, Red
Crossbill and Magnificent Hummingbird have been split, and there are some
taxonomic changes. I think we're all waiting to see if that is the final
word or if more will be coming.

Donna Schulman

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*Donna L. SchulmanForest Hills, nyqueensgir...@gmail.com
*


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On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Paul R Sweet sw...@amnh.org [ebirdsnyc] <
ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Andrew
>
> I've seen the proposals http://checklist.aou.org/nacc/proposals/
> current_proposals.html
> But your post indicates the votes have been cast. Is this posted? Curious
> about decision on other splits - Yellow-rump, Willet, Harrier, Junco etc.
>
> Cheers, Paul
>
> Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural
> History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780
> <(212)%20769-5780> | Mob 718 757 5941 <(718)%20757-5941>
>
> On Jul 1, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>
> By now some of you have already heard that the AOU has taken the decision
> to invalidate Thayer's Gull.
>
> A bit of background: Considered a subspecies of the Herring Gull by the
> AOU until 1973. Thayer's Gull, received full species status based largely
> on the research of A.H. Macpherson and Neil Smith in the 1960's. Smith's
> work which suggested Thayer's and Kumlien's Gulls mated as separate species
> on Baffin Island was viewed with much skepticism and this decision by the
> AOU appears to debunk his claim.
>
> Ron Pittaway, a respected authority on this subject has published an
> excellent account of the history of this taxonomical debate and is worth
> reading for those interested.
>
> http://www.ofo.ca/site/page/view/articles.thayer
> 
>
> 
> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the
> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>
> 風 Swift as the wind
> 林 Quiet as the forest
> 火 Conquer like the fire
> 山 Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu
> 
>   *The Art of War*
> 
>
> (__/)
> (= '.'=)
>
> (") _ (")
>
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device!
>
>
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
> 
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Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Thayer's Gull - the species that never was?

[Paul R Sweet]

Thanks Donna

Didn't realize the on line checklist had rolling updates prior to publication 
of the supplement. I see Northern Harrier has been split from Hen and Northern 
Shrike from Great Grey.

Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Jul 1, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Donna Schulman 
mailto:queensgir...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Paul,

So far, the Supplement has not been published, but the checklist reflects 
decisions: 
http://checklist.aou.org/taxa/

As Brendan Fogarty pointed out on Facebook, Thayer's Gull is gone, Red 
Crossbill and Magnificent Hummingbird have been split, and there are some 
taxonomic changes. I think we're all waiting to see if that is the final word 
or if more will be coming.

Donna Schulman

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On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Paul R Sweet 
sw...@amnh.org [ebirdsnyc] 
mailto:ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com>> 
wrote:


Hi Andrew

I've seen the proposals 
http://checklist.aou.org/nacc/proposals/current_proposals.html
But your post indicates the votes have been cast. Is this posted? Curious about 
decision on other splits - Yellow-rump, Willet, Harrier, Junco etc.

Cheers, Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 
| Mob 718 757 5941

On Jul 1, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Andrew Baksh 
mailto:birdingd...@gmail.com>> wrote:

By now some of you have already heard that the AOU has taken the decision to 
invalidate Thayer's Gull.

A bit of background: Considered a subspecies of the Herring Gull by the AOU 
until 1973. Thayer's Gull, received full species status based largely on the 
research of A.H. Macpherson and Neil Smith in the 1960's. Smith's work which 
suggested Thayer's and Kumlien's Gulls mated as separate species on Baffin 
Island was viewed with much skepticism and this decision by the AOU appears to 
debunk his claim.

Ron Pittaway, a respected authority on this subject has published an excellent 
account of the history of this taxonomical debate and is worth reading for 
those interested.

http://www.ofo.ca/site/page/view/articles.thayer


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun 
Tzu
  The Art of 
War

(__/)
(= '.'=)
(") _ (")
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Highlights

[Andrew Baksh]

Foggy conditions for most of the AM at Nickerson Beach made for slow birding.

Highlights included Surf Scoter (1) Gull-billed (2), Roseate (1) and Royal Tern 
(1).

Cheers,

"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

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> (") _ (") 
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

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[nysbirds-l] Central Park NYC - Sat., July 1, 2017 - Ramble Breeding Bird Survey & other sightings

[Deborah Allen]

Central Park NYC - Ramble Breeding Bird Survey & other sightings
Saturday, July 1, 2017 starting at 5:30AM
OBS: Robert DeCandido, PhD, Deborah Allen & volunteers

Since 1996 fifty-six (56) species of birds have been reported nesting in 
Central Park or on buildings immediately adjacent to the park. This year, 
according to protocols used by the most recent NY State Atlas, we have been 
able to confirm twenty-two (22) species breeding. A species is confirmed 
breeding if there is a nest with eggs (NE), occupied nest of a cavity-nesting 
bird (ON), nest with young (NY), a fledgling (FL), a fledgling or juvenile fed 
by an adult (FY) an adult carrying food for young (CF), or an adult carrying a 
fecal sac (FS). Birds occupying a territory that are probably nesting are not 
included in our total. In most years we have been able to confirm thirty or 
more species breeding.

Bob & I usually come in early and record any evidence of breeding that we find. 
This morning we invited some other early-risers,. a.k.a. insomniacs, to help us 
starting at 5:30am. We will continue to look for breeding birds on early 
mornings in July when many fledglings will be out of the nest in the care of 
their parents. 

Results to date:

Canada Goose - 4 juveniles with adults Lake today (day-old goslings seen 
earlier in season)
Mallard - 10 juveniles with hen Turtle Pond today (day-old ducklings seen 
earlier in season)
Mourning Dove - recently fledged young (earlier in season)
Red-tailed Hawk - 5th Ave. nest with young (earlier in season) juveniles around 
now
Downy Woodpecker - male feeding fledgling Gill Overlook (earlier in season)
Northern Flicker - occupied nest Gill Overlook (earlier in season) adults & 
juveniles around
Peregrine Falcon - nest with 3 young fledged (earlier in season)
Eastern Kingbird - young in nest Turtle Pond today (Diane Del Vecchio)
Blue Jay - adult feeding juvenile, 2 nests earlier in the season (near King of 
Poland & Warbler Rock)
Barn Swallow - adults feeding juveniles Turtle Pond today (young visible in 
nest at Reservoir on Friday)
Tufted Titmouse - begging juvenile chasing adult today at Maintenance Field
White-breasted Nuthatch - 2 adults with 2 fledglings earlier in season (Azalea 
Pond & Summer House)
American Robin - several nests
Gray Catbird - fledglings, adults carrying food (earlier in season)
Northern Mockingbird - nest attended by pair of adults near North Meadow 
Ballfields (Friday)
European Starling - juveniles fed by adults (earlier in season)
House Sparrow - adults feeding juveniles (earlier in season)
House Finch - adults feeding young in birches and mulberry Turtle Pond (earlier 
in season)
Northern Cardinal - female on nest (Linda Yuen) and female feeding fledgling 
today
Red-winged Blackbird - fledgling at Meer (one week ago)
Common Grackle - adults feeding juveniles (earlier in season)
Baltimore Oriole - several occupied nests, adults feeding nestlings (earlier in 
season) adults with juveniles in tow around now

Other birds seen today: Chimney Swift, Herring Gull, Double-crested Cormorant, 
Great Egret, Black-crowned Night-Heron, Red-bellied woodpecker (no nest yet), 
Great Crested Flycatcher (pair not nesting yet but, female with worn tail 
feathers), Warbling Vireo (some already fledged), Northern Rough-winged Swallow 
(2), Carolina Wren, Cedar Waxwing (pair + 1 - still early in the season for 
these late nesters).

So far we have yet to confirm Green Heron, Eastern Wood-Peewee, Wood Thrush, 
Brown Thrasher, or Eastern Towhee breeding for the Summer of 2017. 

Deb Allen

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[nysbirds-l] Central Park, NYC early morning, 7/1

[Thomas Fiore]

Saturday, 1st July, 2017 -

There were some folks in the Ramble of Central Park (Manhattan, N.Y. City) 
apparently following a grown man around who was blasting amplified recordings 
of various birds at decibel levels which were loud enough to be heard - loudly 
- more than 100 yards away & farther, this being observed as early as are ound 
5:40 a.m. - these were the only other persons, besides myself, who were noted 
anywhere in the Ramble area with binoculars at that early hour.   The amplified 
songs &/or calls were repeated for minutes on end, for various species.  This 
is not a normal thing for someone to do in any situation, but is far beyond the 
pale of any person[s] attempting to have a running business (for-profit) that 
involves bringing people on walks to see birds - when done to such excess as 
was seen and heard this morning - high inappropriate for the location, wholly 
inappropriate for the season, and far too loud & too extended under any 
circumstances - it is an unnecessary & unethical means of attempting to lure 
birds, and in fact often has the effect of chasing birds away. 

Hearing in birds is far more sensitive than in any human, & if a human can hear 
a recorded version of a bird call or song at a volume greater than the actual 
bird is capable of even from point-blank range, yet the person able to hear 
this is standing 100 yards away, it is clear that that amplified sound, or any 
“noises” that cause birds to be upset, is unhealthy to, and for, these birds.  
When this behavior is repeated over & over, and in the midst of breeding & 
nesting season, it may contribute to stress for the birds which might even 
cause a failure of the breeding cycle.  The activities of the person found 
doing this on this early morning have been observed over the past 2 decades, & 
this person is very well aware of the unethical & harassing nature of this sort 
of activity.  Indeed, were this to be found occurring in such a place as 
Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge, just to give one example, the person doing this 
would be told by the parks police to desist, or expect legal action to be 
taken. 

There is good reason for rules, laws, which are in effect in many places, on 
public lands & parks & preserves, that no one shall use amplified sound for 
luring birds at any time.  It is unfortunate that there are those who choose to 
offer financial or other support to anyone who has no qualms about harassing 
birds in such a way, on such a continual basis.  Around the country, and around 
the world, those who make a business of showing birds or other wildlife to 
others, have adopted ethical standards for doing so, and most conservation 
organizations have put into effect common-sense standards for the behavior of 
birders & all who wish to observe wildlife. Again, in many locations, these 
standard are also laws and regulatlions - and they are in place to give 
protection to vulnerable wildlife.  It is, above all, incumbent on those who 
take others around, for profit-making business or otherwise,  to observe 
wildlife / birds, that they are doing as absolutely little as possible to 
disturb that which they wish to observe.  In the case of the grown man taking a 
group, at the hour of 5:30 a.m. & afterwards this morning, it appears that 
those following this man may not be aware of the harrassing nature of this 
man’s activities towards breeding & other birds; they may not be fully-aware of 
how wrong that harassment is. It is a complete contradiction to any scientific 
interest of any kind, and is simply harmful to any bird to be finding such 
excessive amplified playing of sounds that upset & disturb the bird[s].

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Of bird sightings, some early-birds noted in Central Park for this Saturday 
included 2 male Wood Ducks, an eclipse-plumaged male ongoing at The Pond, & a 
high-breeding-plumaged male at the Conservatory Water (a.k.a. the ‘model boat 
pond);  a Spotted Sandpiper at The Pond, and a bit later, 2 additional Spotted 
Sandpipers at The Pool, & again at The Pond, a Louisiana Waterthrush on the 
southern edge.  

Many of the breeding species of the park have been relatively quiet, and many 
are now feeding young.  More on that at another point. Use of recordings of any 
sort are completely unnecessary for observing which species are present in 
Central Park, and use of any amplified songs, calls, or ‘noises’ to lure birds 
at this time of year is harassment in a place such as Central.  One expects 
better, and it is for those leading bird-walks to set a higher, not low 
standard of behavior.

good -and ethical- birding,

Tom Fiore
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