[nysbirds-l] Snow geese at JBNWR
A large flock of snow geese has arrived at the Jamaica Bay NWR. 200+ geese were in the salt marshes west of West Pond at 2:30pm. I entered 200 snow geese into e-bird, and e-bird considers this an unusual sighting, so I'm passing it on. Also at the refuge were a great cormorant and 1+ common mergansers, both first of season for me. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Snow geese at JBNWR
200 Snow Geese in Jamaica Bay is unusual. There's usually around 1000 or more. You may wish to refer back in your e-mail archives to "Brooklyn Count #s - Update", posted 12/19/10 at 11:42 A.M. -- From: "Joseph O'Sullivan" Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:45 PM To: Subject: [nysbirds-l] Snow geese at JBNWR A large flock of snow geese has arrived at the Jamaica Bay NWR. 200+ geese were in the salt marshes west of West Pond at 2:30pm. I entered 200 snow geese into e-bird, and e-bird considers this an unusual sighting, so I'm passing it on. Also at the refuge were a great cormorant and 1+ common mergansers, both first of season for me. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Snow geese at JBNWR
Really ? Does anyone see 1,000+ Snow Geese in Jamaica Bay when the hard freeze sets in during January and February ? I thought they left for points south when that occurred and then sometimes re-stage and Jamaica Bay WR on their way back north, around now. In fact I had a flock of ~200 fly over me in Central NJ this morning - in an atypical location, so they may be on the move in general. The furthest north I know of a permanent wintering Snow Goose population is Brigantine division of Forsythe NWR in NJ. Phil Jeffrey Princeton On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Steve Walter wrote: > 200 Snow Geese in Jamaica Bay is unusual. There's usually around 1000 or > more. You may wish to refer back in your e-mail archives to "Brooklyn Count > #s - Update", posted 12/19/10 at 11:42 A.M. > > -- > From: "Joseph O'Sullivan" > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:45 PM > To: > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Snow geese at JBNWR > >> A large flock of snow geese has arrived at the Jamaica Bay NWR. 200+ >> geese were in the salt marshes west of West Pond at 2:30pm. I entered >> 200 snow geese into e-bird, and e-bird considers this an unusual >> sighting, so I'm passing it on. >> >> Also at the refuge were a great cormorant and 1+ common mergansers, >> both first of season for me. >> >> -- >> >> NYSbirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html >> 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> > > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html > 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- "If you lie to the compiler, it will get its revenge" - Henry Spencer -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Snow geese at JBNWR
I've done the CBC there for 25 years. The number is always high at that time. I don't go to Jamaica Bay religiously in the dead of winter every year. But two years ago, going there with the attraction of Ross', I can tell you that there were still hundreds throughout February. The main point here is that I don't want people on this list, especially those from parts of the state out of reach of JBWR, given the impression that 200 Snow Geese at Jamaica Bay is a big deal. It's good that we have this forum for conveying good information, but let it be good information. -- From: "Phil Jeffrey" Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 7:58 PM To: "Steve Walter" Cc: Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Snow geese at JBNWR Really ? Does anyone see 1,000+ Snow Geese in Jamaica Bay when the hard freeze sets in during January and February ? I thought they left for points south when that occurred and then sometimes re-stage and Jamaica Bay WR on their way back north, around now. In fact I had a flock of ~200 fly over me in Central NJ this morning - in an atypical location, so they may be on the move in general. The furthest north I know of a permanent wintering Snow Goose population is Brigantine division of Forsythe NWR in NJ. Phil Jeffrey Princeton On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Steve Walter wrote: 200 Snow Geese in Jamaica Bay is unusual. There's usually around 1000 or more. You may wish to refer back in your e-mail archives to "Brooklyn Count #s - Update", posted 12/19/10 at 11:42 A.M. -- From: "Joseph O'Sullivan" Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:45 PM To: Subject: [nysbirds-l] Snow geese at JBNWR A large flock of snow geese has arrived at the Jamaica Bay NWR. 200+ geese were in the salt marshes west of West Pond at 2:30pm. I entered 200 snow geese into e-bird, and e-bird considers this an unusual sighting, so I'm passing it on. Also at the refuge were a great cormorant and 1+ common mergansers, both first of season for me. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- "If you lie to the compiler, it will get its revenge" - Henry Spencer -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Snow geese at JBNWR
But pertinently Jamaica Bay WR is not the full extent of Jamaica Bay. So eBird flagging 200 for Jamaica Bay in February is not as unreasonable as it sounds, because I've been there in February during a freeze and seen *none*. In fact as pointed out there probably aren't all that many within the WR boundaries during the freeze, and it's certainly well down from the pre-freeze counts during December (i.e. don't use December counts to indicate likely February counts). I'm all for accurate information too. Phil -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Snow geese at JBNWR
They roost on the ice (which allows us to get reasonably accurate CBC counts before they spread into the marshes for the day). The number of Snow Geese in Jamaica Bay is the number that will be at JBWR. Steve -- From: "Phil Jeffrey" Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:19 PM To: "Steve Walter" Cc: Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Snow geese at JBNWR But pertinently Jamaica Bay WR is not the full extent of Jamaica Bay. So eBird flagging 200 for Jamaica Bay in February is not as unreasonable as it sounds, because I've been there in February during a freeze and seen *none*. In fact as pointed out there probably aren't all that many within the WR boundaries during the freeze, and it's certainly well down from the pre-freeze counts during December (i.e. don't use December counts to indicate likely February counts). I'm all for accurate information too. Phil -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
