Re: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Larry Federman 
The American Museum of Natural History is requesting any dead Snowies to be 
brought to them

Larry Federman
Education Coordinator
Audubon New York
Rheinstrom Hill, Buttercup Farm, and RamsHorn-Livingston Sanctuaries and Centers

From: Marcus Simpson 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 9:00 AM
To: Nadine Scarpa 
Cc: post NYSBirds 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

If it is not possible to arrange a catch-and-release program at JFK, would it 
be possible to have the airport authorities at least provide the remains of the 
owls to qualified individuals who are studying the species so that some 
scientific value might be obtained?

Marcus Simpson, Jr.
Hendersonville, NC



On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Nadine Scarpa  
wrote:

  Canada Geese are culled in many areas because there are TOO MANY of them to 
get rid of any other way.  Boston's Logan Airport is doing catch and release 
for the Snowy Owls - they bait with rodents, and catch them and move them away 
from the airport.

  Canada Geese are so numerous, they can take out more than just one engine and 
THAT'S what takes a plane down.   Here is how Logan Airport deals with Snowy 
Owls:

  
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-airport-takes-approach-snowy-owls-article-1.1541847



On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Will Raup  wrote:

  Through being an active birder in the Albany area and now being involved 
in e-bird, I've gotten to make some contact with the Air Traffic control folk 
at Albany International Airport.

  They are reluctant to report owls, because of situations like this.  
Basically, the Owls because of their size are a threat to airplanes taking off 
and landing.  If I recall, they need to make an effort to discourage the owls 
from hanging out on the runway, but if those fail, then can and do shoot the 
owls.  This is not limited to JFK, but can happen at any airport.  

  While not ideal in my mind, you will be hard pressed to find anyone, 
especially in the government who would potentially risk hundreds of human lives 
for one, two or even 3 Owls.  Its the same reason why Canada Geese are culled 
in many areas.

  Just another risk Snowy Owl's have to deal with when they come this far 
south.

  Will Raup
  Albany, NY


  
  > From: nutrich...@rcn.com
  > To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
  > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
  > Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 07:22:53 -0500

  >
  >
  > Just wanted to bring everyone’s attention to this article in the Daily
  > News this morning regarding the Port Authority shooting Snowy Owls at
  > JFK airport.
  >
  >
  >
  > 
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/snowy-owls-added-port-authority-kill-list-article-1.1541823
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Marcus Simpson 
If it is not possible to arrange a catch-and-release program at JFK, would
it be possible to have the airport authorities at least provide the remains
of the owls to qualified individuals who are studying the species so that
some scientific value might be obtained?

Marcus Simpson, Jr.
Hendersonville, NC


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Nadine Scarpa
wrote:

> Canada Geese are culled in many areas because there are TOO MANY of them
> to get rid of any other way.  Boston's Logan Airport is doing catch and
> release for the Snowy Owls - they bait with rodents, and catch them and
> move them away from the airport.
>
> Canada Geese are so numerous, they can take out more than just one engine
> and THAT'S what takes a plane down.   Here is how Logan Airport deals with
> Snowy Owls:
>
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-airport-takes-approach-snowy-owls-article-1.1541847
>
>
>
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Will Raup wrote:
>>
>>> Through being an active birder in the Albany area and now being involved
>>> in e-bird, I've gotten to make some contact with the Air Traffic control
>>> folk at Albany International Airport.
>>>
>>> They are reluctant to report owls, because of situations like this.
>>>  Basically, the Owls because of their size are a threat to airplanes taking
>>> off and landing.  If I recall, they need to make an effort to discourage
>>> the owls from hanging out on the runway, but if those fail, then can and do
>>> shoot the owls.  This is not limited to JFK, but can happen at any airport.
>>>
>>>
>>> While not ideal in my mind, you will be hard pressed to find anyone,
>>> especially in the government who would potentially risk hundreds of human
>>> lives for one, two or even 3 Owls.  Its the same reason why Canada Geese
>>> are culled in many areas.
>>>
>>> Just another risk Snowy Owl's have to deal with when they come this far
>>> south.
>>>
>>> Will Raup
>>> Albany, NY
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> > From: nutrich...@rcn.com
>>> > To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
>>> > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
>>> > Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 07:22:53 -0500
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Just wanted to bring everyone’s attention to this article in the Daily
>>> > News this morning regarding the Port Authority shooting Snowy Owls at
>>> > JFK airport.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/snowy-owls-added-port-authority-kill-list-article-1.1541823
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Christina
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Will Raup 
Through being an active birder in the Albany area and now being involved in 
e-bird, I've gotten to make some contact with the Air Traffic control folk at 
Albany International Airport.

They are reluctant to report owls, because of situations like this.  Basically, 
the Owls because of their size are a threat to airplanes taking off and 
landing.  If I recall, they need to make an effort to discourage the owls from 
hanging out on the runway, but if those fail, then can and do shoot the owls.  
This is not limited to JFK, but can happen at any airport.  

While not ideal in my mind, you will be hard pressed to find anyone, especially 
in the government who would potentially risk hundreds of human lives for one, 
two or even 3 Owls.  Its the same reason why Canada Geese are culled in many 
areas.

Just another risk Snowy Owl's have to deal with when they come this far south.

Will Raup
Albany, NY



> From: nutrich...@rcn.com 
> To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu 
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK 
> Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 07:22:53 -0500 
> 
> 
> Just wanted to bring everyone’s attention to this article in the Daily 
> News this morning regarding the Port Authority shooting Snowy Owls at 
> JFK airport. 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/snowy-owls-added-port-authority-kill-list-article-1.1541823
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Christina 
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