Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different perspective

[Jason Orchard]

Hi NZNOG

I asked samknows the similar question testing   Patterns Below is there 
response.

(SamKnows)
1 Oct, 14:19 BST

Hi Jason,

Thank you for getting in touch regarding your Whitebox.

You are currently participating in the Commerce Commission study. The study's 
test schedule runs 7 tests per day, 4 in peak hours and 3 in off peak hours.

Peering in NZ is part of the conversation surrounding this project, and we knew 
to expect some sub-optimal choices from some ISPs. We and the Commerce 
Commission are working with the ISPs to resolve this, and I'm sure this data 
will help speed up the process.

Please let us know if you have other questions or if you need further 
assistance.


Thanks,
The SamKnows Team




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From: Dylan Hall 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 18:39
To: Jason Orchard
Cc: nznog@list.waikato.ac.nz
Subject: Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different 
perspective

Bringing this conversation back on list, Jason is accessing the M-Lab servers 
via Spark.

I would expect the performance through Spark to be poorer as they don't peer in 
NZ. Instead, we're exchanging traffic with them in Sydney.

We have reminded Spark that we're on the various peering exchanges and we are 
of course happy to accept their routes from the route servers.

Thanks,

Dylan

On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 at 11:11, Dylan Hall 
mailto:dy...@eth0.net.nz>> wrote:
Do you know which node (AKL vs WLG) you're talking to or it's IP address?

If not, can you flick me your address off list and I'll dig through the flow 
records and try and figure it out.

The reason I ask is I'd like to see a traceroute to/from your address to see 
the path the traffic is taking.

We have 10 Gbps ports on APE/AKL-IX, but only 1 Gbps on WIX/CHIX. Since the 
testing started we've started seeing discards on our WIX port during the 
evening which I'm pretty sure is being driven by the testing traffic. We've 
ordered an upgrade to 10 Gbps which I expect to get live in the next couple of 
weeks. This could explain the download test struggling to get close to 1 Gbps, 
but I think it less likely to impact the upload test.

Thanks,

Dylan


On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 at 08:49, Jason Orchard 
mailto:jason.orch...@enable.net.nz>> wrote:
Hi

Since putting the device on the Enable Network, I’m actually not overall happy 
with the results I'm seeing.

There is an inconsistency with the Download/Upload Speed, Latency and Jitter.
When testing using another Testing service such as Speedtest.net and Fast.com, 
Iperf  are consistently report my connection speed as 950Mb/s Downstream and 
500Mb/s upstream.

Samknows is reporting this My peak connection Speed for download of 742Mbp/s 
and upload 429Mbps, but these results are not consistent when I compare other 
speedtest services.


According to the data provided from Samknows user analytics, they are testing 
the download speed on the hour between 6 pm and 11 am daily and one sample at 5 
am.
These times represent Enable network peak and off periods for traffic.


 *   The graph below are taken over a 7days period, sampling every 30 
seconds at a bit per second.
 *   Have another member of NZNOC got similar testing results to mine
 *   What I can’t answer is how the data in the graphs below is represented 
by Samknows.

Note:
The Samknows device is the only (Connection) plugged into this GPON interface.
There is other user traffic been generated on this port other than samknows 
device.

[cid:image002.png@01D45702.A09DE340]


Jason Orchard
Senior Network Engineer | Enable Networks Limited
DDI +64 3 741 5283
M+64 27 666 8468
www.enable.net.nz<http://www.enable.net.nz/>

[cid:image004.jpg@01D3B097.6E668880]

From: nznog-boun...@list.waikato.ac.nz<mailto:nznog-boun...@list.waikato.ac.nz> 
mailto:nznog-boun...@list.waikato.ac.nz>> On 
Behalf Of brianpars...@subpico.com<mailto:brianpars...@subpico.com>
Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2018 5:12 PM
To: Peter Lambrechtsen mailto:pe...@crypt.nz>>
Cc: NZNOG mailto:nznog@list.waikato.ac.nz>>; 
brian.c...@waikato.ac.nz<mailto:brian.c...@waikato.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different 
perspective


OpenWRT/LEDE binary, Just shell on.. opkg update, -i what you need..., netstat 
-antop | grep EST this will surprise you, dest will surprise you more then I  
put in the green wheely.  On the WAN link you may see lots of src privates 
indicating typical dinky rtr/fw nat not coping similarly actual/true $paid for 
bandwidth at src (home) = rubbish + legit flows. rubbish flows (in/out) of 
breaks packet concurrency increasing delays and maxin out (netflix/gaming 
stream) PDVs on clients - recommend filter|block upstream of router will lead 
to a huge improvement in media quality and performance of your home router.

good luck - regards brian
---- Original Mess

Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different perspective

[Dylan Hall]

Bringing this conversation back on list, Jason is accessing the M-Lab
servers via Spark.

I would expect the performance through Spark to be poorer as they don't
peer in NZ. Instead, we're exchanging traffic with them in Sydney.

We have reminded Spark that we're on the various peering exchanges and we
are of course happy to accept their routes from the route servers.

Thanks,

Dylan

On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 at 11:11, Dylan Hall  wrote:

> Do you know which node (AKL vs WLG) you're talking to or it's IP address?
>
> If not, can you flick me your address off list and I'll dig through the
> flow records and try and figure it out.
>
> The reason I ask is I'd like to see a traceroute to/from your address to
> see the path the traffic is taking.
>
> We have 10 Gbps ports on APE/AKL-IX, but only 1 Gbps on WIX/CHIX. Since
> the testing started we've started seeing discards on our WIX port during
> the evening which I'm pretty sure is being driven by the testing traffic.
> We've ordered an upgrade to 10 Gbps which I expect to get live in the next
> couple of weeks. This could explain the download test struggling to get
> close to 1 Gbps, but I think it less likely to impact the upload test.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dylan
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 at 08:49, Jason Orchard 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Since putting the device on the Enable Network, I’m actually not overall
>> happy with the results I'm seeing.
>>
>> There is an inconsistency with the Download/Upload Speed, Latency and
>> Jitter.
>>
>> When testing using another Testing service such as Speedtest.net and
>> Fast.com, Iperf  are consistently report my connection speed as 950Mb/s
>> Downstream and 500Mb/s upstream.
>>
>> Samknows is reporting this My peak connection Speed for download of
>> 742Mbp/s and upload 429Mbps, but these results are not consistent when I
>> compare other speedtest services.
>>
>>
>>
>> According to the data provided from Samknows user analytics, they are
>> testing the download speed on the hour between 6 pm and 11 am daily and one
>> sample at 5 am.
>> These times represent Enable network peak and off periods for traffic.
>>
>>
>>
>>- The graph below are taken over a 7days period, sampling every 30
>>   seconds at a bit per second.
>>   - Have another member of NZNOC got similar testing results to mine
>>   - What I can’t answer is how the data in the graphs below is
>>   represented by Samknows.
>>
>>
>>
>> Note:
>>
>> The Samknows device is the only (Connection) plugged into this GPON
>> interface.
>>
>> There is other user traffic been generated on this port other than
>> samknows device.
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: cid:image002.png@01D45702.A09DE340]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jason Orchard*
>>
>> Senior Network Engineer | Enable Networks Limited
>>
>> DDI +64 3 741 5283
>>
>> M+64 27 666 8468
>>
>> www.enable.net.nz
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: cid:image004.jpg@01D3B097.6E668880]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* nznog-boun...@list.waikato.ac.nz <
>> nznog-boun...@list.waikato.ac.nz> *On Behalf Of *brianpars...@subpico.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 27 September 2018 5:12 PM
>> *To:* Peter Lambrechtsen 
>> *Cc:* NZNOG ; brian.c...@waikato.ac.nz
>> *Subject:* Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a
>> different perspective
>>
>>
>>
>> OpenWRT/LEDE binary, Just shell on.. opkg update, -i what you need...,
>> netstat -antop | grep EST this will surprise you, dest will surprise you
>> more then I  put in the green wheely.  On the WAN link you may see lots of
>> src privates indicating typical dinky rtr/fw nat not coping similarly
>> actual/true $paid for bandwidth at src (home) = rubbish + legit flows.
>> rubbish flows (in/out) of breaks packet concurrency increasing delays and
>> maxin out (netflix/gaming stream) PDVs on clients - recommend filter|block
>> upstream of router will lead to a huge improvement in media quality and
>> performance of your home router.
>>
>> good luck - regards brian
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different
>> perspective
>> From: "Peter Lambrechtsen" 
>> Date: Thu, September 27, 2018 4:37 pm
>> To: brian.c...@waikato.ac.nz
>> Cc: "NZNOG" 
>> --
>>
>> > There is a Geekzone thre

Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different perspective

[sam webber]

On the subject of Internet Experience Monitoring, would anyone be
interested in helping evolve http://packy.io? It's a New Zealand based
startup, been in development for 3 years.

The idea is to be able to define and schedule your own tests, across many
of your own agents. Currently supported modules are speedtest.net, ping,
traceroute, http, and DNS response times.

Cheers,
Sam




On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 11:12 AM Dylan Hall  wrote:

> Do you know which node (AKL vs WLG) you're talking to or it's IP address?
>
> If not, can you flick me your address off list and I'll dig through the
> flow records and try and figure it out.
>
> The reason I ask is I'd like to see a traceroute to/from your address to
> see the path the traffic is taking.
>
> We have 10 Gbps ports on APE/AKL-IX, but only 1 Gbps on WIX/CHIX. Since
> the testing started we've started seeing discards on our WIX port during
> the evening which I'm pretty sure is being driven by the testing traffic.
> We've ordered an upgrade to 10 Gbps which I expect to get live in the next
> couple of weeks. This could explain the download test struggling to get
> close to 1 Gbps, but I think it less likely to impact the upload test.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dylan
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 at 08:49, Jason Orchard 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Since putting the device on the Enable Network, I’m actually not overall
>> happy with the results I'm seeing.
>>
>> There is an inconsistency with the Download/Upload Speed, Latency and
>> Jitter.
>>
>> When testing using another Testing service such as Speedtest.net and
>> Fast.com, Iperf  are consistently report my connection speed as 950Mb/s
>> Downstream and 500Mb/s upstream.
>>
>> Samknows is reporting this My peak connection Speed for download of
>> 742Mbp/s and upload 429Mbps, but these results are not consistent when I
>> compare other speedtest services.
>>
>>
>>
>> According to the data provided from Samknows user analytics, they are
>> testing the download speed on the hour between 6 pm and 11 am daily and one
>> sample at 5 am.
>> These times represent Enable network peak and off periods for traffic.
>>
>>
>>
>>- The graph below are taken over a 7days period, sampling every 30
>>   seconds at a bit per second.
>>   - Have another member of NZNOC got similar testing results to mine
>>   - What I can’t answer is how the data in the graphs below is
>>   represented by Samknows.
>>
>>
>>
>> Note:
>>
>> The Samknows device is the only (Connection) plugged into this GPON
>> interface.
>>
>> There is other user traffic been generated on this port other than
>> samknows device.
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: cid:image002.png@01D45702.A09DE340]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jason Orchard*
>>
>> Senior Network Engineer | Enable Networks Limited
>>
>> DDI +64 3 741 5283
>>
>> M+64 27 666 8468
>>
>> www.enable.net.nz
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: cid:image004.jpg@01D3B097.6E668880]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* nznog-boun...@list.waikato.ac.nz <
>> nznog-boun...@list.waikato.ac.nz> *On Behalf Of *brianpars...@subpico.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 27 September 2018 5:12 PM
>> *To:* Peter Lambrechtsen 
>> *Cc:* NZNOG ; brian.c...@waikato.ac.nz
>> *Subject:* Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a
>> different perspective
>>
>>
>>
>> OpenWRT/LEDE binary, Just shell on.. opkg update, -i what you need...,
>> netstat -antop | grep EST this will surprise you, dest will surprise you
>> more then I  put in the green wheely.  On the WAN link you may see lots of
>> src privates indicating typical dinky rtr/fw nat not coping similarly
>> actual/true $paid for bandwidth at src (home) = rubbish + legit flows.
>> rubbish flows (in/out) of breaks packet concurrency increasing delays and
>> maxin out (netflix/gaming stream) PDVs on clients - recommend filter|block
>> upstream of router will lead to a huge improvement in media quality and
>> performance of your home router.
>>
>> good luck - regards brian
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different
>> perspective
>> From: "Peter Lambrechtsen" 
>> Date: Thu, September 27, 2018 4:37 pm
>> To: brian.c...@waikato.ac.nz
>> Cc: "NZNOG" 
>> --
>>
>> > There is a Geekzone thre

Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different perspective

[Mike Taylor]

I've put myself back on the wait list for the new probes (I used to host
an older on on DSL) but now I have the Enable Fibbers and I'm interested
in placing one on my home connection.

Is there anyone I can bribe to get bumped up the list? :-)

Regards,

Mike Taylor


Mike Taylor
The Total Team

0800 888 326 / +64 3 3779050

On 28/09/18 11:11, Dylan Hall wrote:
> Do you know which node (AKL vs WLG) you're talking to or it's IP address?
>
> If not, can you flick me your address off list and I'll dig through
> the flow records and try and figure it out.
>
> The reason I ask is I'd like to see a traceroute to/from your address
> to see the path the traffic is taking.
>
> We have 10 Gbps ports on APE/AKL-IX, but only 1 Gbps on WIX/CHIX.
> Since the testing started we've started seeing discards on our WIX
> port during the evening which I'm pretty sure is being driven by the
> testing traffic. We've ordered an upgrade to 10 Gbps which I expect to
> get live in the next couple of weeks. This could explain the download
> test struggling to get close to 1 Gbps, but I think it less likely to
> impact the upload test.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dylan
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 at 08:49, Jason Orchard
> mailto:jason.orch...@enable.net.nz>> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Since putting the device on the Enable Network, I’m actually not
> overall happy with the results I'm seeing.
>
> There is an inconsistency with the Download/Upload Speed, Latency
> and Jitter.
>
> When testing using another Testing service such as Speedtest.net
> and Fast.com, Iperf  are consistently report my connection speed
> as 950Mb/s Downstream and 500Mb/s upstream.
>
> Samknows is reporting this My peak connection Speed for download
> of 742Mbp/s and upload 429Mbps, but these results are not
> consistent when I compare other speedtest services.
>
>  
>
> According to the data provided from Samknows user analytics, they
> are testing the download speed on the hour between 6 pm and 11 am
> daily and one sample at 5 am.
> These times represent Enable network peak and off periods for traffic.
>
>  
>
>   o The graph below are taken over a 7days period, sampling
> every 30 seconds at a bit per second.
>   o Have another member of NZNOC got similar testing results
> to mine
>   o What I can’t answer is how the data in the graphs below is
> represented by Samknows.
>
>  
>
> Note:
>
> The Samknows device is the only (Connection) plugged into this
> GPON interface.
>
> There is other user traffic been generated on this port other than
> samknows device.
>
>  
>
> cid:image002.png@01D45702.A09DE340
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Jason Orchard*
>
> Senior Network Engineer | Enable Networks Limited
>
> DDI +64 3 741 5283
>
> M    +64 27 666 8468
>
> www.enable.net.nz <http://www.enable.net.nz/>__
>
>  
>
> cid:image004.jpg@01D3B097.6E668880
>
>  
>
> *From:* nznog-boun...@list.waikato.ac.nz
> <mailto:nznog-boun...@list.waikato.ac.nz>
>  <mailto:nznog-boun...@list.waikato.ac.nz>> *On Behalf Of
>     *brianpars...@subpico.com <mailto:brianpars...@subpico.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 27 September 2018 5:12 PM
> *To:* Peter Lambrechtsen mailto:pe...@crypt.nz>>
> *Cc:* NZNOG  <mailto:nznog@list.waikato.ac.nz>>; brian.c...@waikato.ac.nz
> <mailto:brian.c...@waikato.ac.nz>
> *Subject:* Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a
> different perspective
>
>  
>
> OpenWRT/LEDE binary, Just shell on.. opkg update, -i what you
> need..., netstat -antop | grep EST this will surprise you, dest
> will surprise you more then I  put in the green wheely.  On the
> WAN link you may see lots of src privates indicating typical dinky
> rtr/fw nat not coping similarly actual/true $paid for bandwidth at
> src (home) = rubbish + legit flows. rubbish flows (in/out) of
>     breaks packet concurrency increasing delays and maxin out
> (netflix/gaming stream) PDVs on clients - recommend filter|block
> upstream of router will lead to a huge improvement in media
> quality and performance of your home router.
>
> good luck - regards brian
>  Original Message
> 
> Subject: Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a
> different perspective
> From: "Peter Lambrechtsen" mailto:pe...@crypt.nz>>
> Date: Thu, September 27,

Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different perspective

[Nathan Ward]

> On 28/09/2018, at 8:49 AM, Jason Orchard  wrote:
> 
> Note:
> The Samknows device is the only (Connection) plugged into this GPON interface.
> There is other user traffic been generated on this port other than samknows 
> device.

Do you mean “no other” ?

Interesting results. Can you get packet captures? Would be worth talking to the 
SamKnows people about this I am sure.

I understand (though may be mistaken!) that their “speed” is a mix of various 
tests - some of which include international tests.

--
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Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different perspective

[brianparsons]

OpenWRT/LEDE binary, Just shell on.. opkg update, -i what you need..., netstat 
-antop | grep EST this will surprise you, dest will surprise you more then I� 
put in the green wheely.� On the WAN link you may see lots of src privates 
indicating typical dinky rtr/fw nat not coping
similarly actual/true $paid for bandwidth at src (home) = rubbish + legit 
flows. rubbish flows (in/out) of breaks packet concurrency increasing delays 
and maxin out (netflix/gaming stream) PDVs on clients - recommend filter|block 
upstream of router will lead to a huge improvement in media quality
and performance of your home router.
good luck - regards brian
 Original Message 

Subject: Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different 
perspective

From: "Peter Lambrechtsen" 

Date: Thu, September 27, 2018 4:37 pm

To: brian.c...@waikato.ac.nz

Cc: "NZNOG" 

--



> There is a Geekzone thread that I kicked off when I attended the Commerce

> Commission presentation about Samknows and got to meet Sam.

>

> https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49=237852

>

> I've done a bit of analysis on the traffic but haven't dug too deep yet as

> I didn't want to bust open the box and try and reverse engineer their

> OpenWRT build.

>

> Happy to put anyone in touch with the guys I have dealt with directly from

> the Comcom and Samknows too.

>

> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:59 PM Brian Cole 

> wrote:

>

>> Acknowledged with thanks,

>>

>> Brian

>>

>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 12:58 PM, Nathan Ward  wrote:

>>

>>> Hi Brian,

>>>

>>> You should call their support if you think theres something going on

>>> thats impacting your connection.

>>>

>>> They will detect if your connection is in use and doing more than (I

>>> think) 64kbit/s in the last 30s or something, and wont run the tests.

>>>

>>> They have some clever stuff to detect if your wifi is in use, without

>>> being connected to your network and without being your AP. Perhaps 
>>> thats

>>> playing up?

>>>

>>> Pretty sure its publicly documented, check out the links in that

>>> original post and if not we can dig up some other stuff Im sure.

>>>

>>> On 27/09/2018, at 11:38 AM, Brian Cole  wrote:

>>>

>>> Hi all,

>>>

>>> Longtime listener; first time caller.

>>>

>>> I signed up to SamKnows (partly out of curiosity and partly so I can have

>>> hard data about my connection that I pay for) at home.

>>>

>>> Over the last week my connection has gone from slightly adequate with the

>>> occasional drop out to a slow connection with regular drop outs.

>>>

>>> Netflix and YouTube are stuttering, video games drop connection, and

>>> websites hang at random times.

>>>

>>> I can't help but think that the email shared by Dylan sheds some light on

>>> why that maybe.

>>>

>>> This programme won't be terribly successful if everyone gets sick of

>>> having a terrible connection during peak hours and shuts the white box

>>> down.

>>>

>>> Pretty frustrating.

>>>

>>> Brian

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>>

>>> *Brian Cole* */** Research Projects Developer*

>>> *Research & Enterprise **/** Research Office **/** University of

>>> Waikato*

>>> *Private Bag 3105* */* *Hamilton 3240* */*

>>> *New Zealand**www.waikato.ac.nz* <http://www.waikato.ac.nz/> */*

>>> *mob + 64 21 049 9183**email brian.c...@waikato.ac.nz

>>>  *

>>>

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Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different perspective

[Peter Lambrechtsen]

There is a Geekzone thread that I kicked off when I attended the Commerce
Commission presentation about Samknows and got to meet Sam.

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49=237852

I've done a bit of analysis on the traffic but haven't dug too deep yet as
I didn't want to bust open the box and try and reverse engineer their
OpenWRT build.

Happy to put anyone in touch with the guys I have dealt with directly from
the Comcom and Samknows too.

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:59 PM Brian Cole 
wrote:

> Acknowledged with thanks,
>
> Brian
>
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 12:58 PM, Nathan Ward  wrote:
>
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>> You should call their support if you think there’s something going on
>> that’s impacting your connection.
>>
>> They will detect if your connection is in use and doing more than (I
>> think) 64kbit/s in the last 30s or something, and won’t run the tests.
>>
>> They have some clever stuff to detect if your wifi is in use, without
>> being connected to your network and without being your AP. Perhaps that’s
>> playing up?
>>
>> Pretty sure it’s publicly documented, check out the links in that
>> original post and if not we can dig up some other stuff I’m sure.
>>
>> On 27/09/2018, at 11:38 AM, Brian Cole  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Longtime listener; first time caller.
>>
>> I signed up to SamKnows (partly out of curiosity and partly so I can have
>> hard data about my connection that I pay for) at home.
>>
>> Over the last week my connection has gone from slightly adequate with the
>> occasional drop out to a slow connection with regular drop outs.
>>
>> Netflix and YouTube are stuttering, video games drop connection, and
>> websites hang at random times.
>>
>> I can't help but think that the email shared by Dylan sheds some light on
>> why that maybe.
>>
>> This programme won't be terribly successful if everyone gets sick of
>> having a terrible connection during peak hours and shuts the white box
>> down.
>>
>> Pretty frustrating.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Brian Cole* */** Research Projects Developer*
>> *Research & Enterprise  **/**  Research Office  **/**  University of
>> Waikato*
>>  *Private Bag 3105*  */*  *Hamilton 3240*  */*
>> *New Zealand**www.waikato.ac.nz*    */*
>> *mob + 64 21 049  9183**email brian.c...@waikato.ac.nz
>>   *
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Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different perspective

[Brian Cole]

Acknowledged with thanks,

Brian

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 12:58 PM, Nathan Ward  wrote:

> Hi Brian,
>
> You should call their support if you think there’s something going on
> that’s impacting your connection.
>
> They will detect if your connection is in use and doing more than (I
> think) 64kbit/s in the last 30s or something, and won’t run the tests.
>
> They have some clever stuff to detect if your wifi is in use, without
> being connected to your network and without being your AP. Perhaps that’s
> playing up?
>
> Pretty sure it’s publicly documented, check out the links in that original
> post and if not we can dig up some other stuff I’m sure.
>
> On 27/09/2018, at 11:38 AM, Brian Cole  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Longtime listener; first time caller.
>
> I signed up to SamKnows (partly out of curiosity and partly so I can have
> hard data about my connection that I pay for) at home.
>
> Over the last week my connection has gone from slightly adequate with the
> occasional drop out to a slow connection with regular drop outs.
>
> Netflix and YouTube are stuttering, video games drop connection, and
> websites hang at random times.
>
> I can't help but think that the email shared by Dylan sheds some light on
> why that maybe.
>
> This programme won't be terribly successful if everyone gets sick of
> having a terrible connection during peak hours and shuts the white box
> down.
>
> Pretty frustrating.
>
> Brian
>
>
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Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different perspective

[Nathan Ward]

Hi Brian,

You should call their support if you think there’s something going on that’s 
impacting your connection.

They will detect if your connection is in use and doing more than (I think) 
64kbit/s in the last 30s or something, and won’t run the tests.

They have some clever stuff to detect if your wifi is in use, without being 
connected to your network and without being your AP. Perhaps that’s playing up?

Pretty sure it’s publicly documented, check out the links in that original post 
and if not we can dig up some other stuff I’m sure.

> On 27/09/2018, at 11:38 AM, Brian Cole  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Longtime listener; first time caller. 
> 
> I signed up to SamKnows (partly out of curiosity and partly so I can have 
> hard data about my connection that I pay for) at home.
> 
> Over the last week my connection has gone from slightly adequate with the 
> occasional drop out to a slow connection with regular drop outs. 
> 
> Netflix and YouTube are stuttering, video games drop connection, and websites 
> hang at random times. 
> 
> I can't help but think that the email shared by Dylan sheds some light on why 
> that maybe. 
> 
> This programme won't be terribly successful if everyone gets sick of having a 
> terrible connection during peak hours and shuts the white box down. 
> 
> Pretty frustrating. 
> 
> Brian 
> 
>  
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Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different perspective

[Bill]

I’ve had a SamKnows node since inception.  They only ever use a % of your 
connection, however they only know your connection speed if you have correctly 
filled out your profile on their site. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 27/09/2018, at 11:38 AM, Brian Cole  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Longtime listener; first time caller. 
> 
> I signed up to SamKnows (partly out of curiosity and partly so I can have 
> hard data about my connection that I pay for) at home.
> 
> Over the last week my connection has gone from slightly adequate with the 
> occasional drop out to a slow connection with regular drop outs. 
> 
> Netflix and YouTube are stuttering, video games drop connection, and websites 
> hang at random times. 
> 
> I can't help but think that the email shared by Dylan sheds some light on why 
> that maybe. 
> 
> This programme won't be terribly successful if everyone gets sick of having a 
> terrible connection during peak hours and shuts the white box down. 
> 
> Pretty frustrating. 
> 
> Brian 
> 
>  
> 
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Re: [nznog] Comcom/Samknows broadband testing from a different perspective

[Brian Cole]

Hi all,

Longtime listener; first time caller.

I signed up to SamKnows (partly out of curiosity and partly so I can have
hard data about my connection that I pay for) at home.

Over the last week my connection has gone from slightly adequate with the
occasional drop out to a slow connection with regular drop outs.

Netflix and YouTube are stuttering, video games drop connection, and
websites hang at random times.

I can't help but think that the email shared by Dylan sheds some light on
why that maybe.

This programme won't be terribly successful if everyone gets sick of having
a terrible connection during peak hours and shuts the white box down.

Pretty frustrating.

Brian



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