Re: [obrolan-bandar] Beraksinya hama penggerek batang di bej.

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik ANG CIT KONG





Jam 14.38 index -41.5 , apakah ini akhir cerita 
pesta meriah di BEJ??? Panggil wayang golek lagi donk mbah biar bisa pesta lagi 
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[obrolan-bandar] Siapa yang bakal TINGGAL KOLOR ? (1058) ...Re: Ayo kita GEBUK si BD (1074)

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant



14;35 

IHSG -41 1050

Bandar TAMBAH NEKAD, embah juga TAMBAH NEKAD...

Kita lihat siapa yang bakal TINGGAL KOLOR?




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Beraksinya hama penggerek batang di bej.

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Investor Bernasib_Baik



Kalo saya sih justru senang dgn kondisi spt ini, krn inilah saat yg saya nantikan utk membeli saham. Pada saat "panic selling", banyak orang yg "butuh uang" shg mereka mau menjual murah sahamnya. Kata orang bijak, belilah barang dari orang yg "BU" alias "butuh uang". Kita akan dapat "bargain price". 
 
OK, siapa lagi yg mau cabut dari BEJ? 
Saya siap membeli saham-saham unggulan yg akan anda jual dgn murah.  
T O K A I <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Menyebabkan indeks kembali terjungkal
ke titik 1.069.06
Selamat bagi anda-anda pemegang uang tunai..
bersabarlah bagi anda-anda pemegang lembar kepemilikan
mendung tak berarti hujan yakinlah itu suatu cobaan.
Tak selamanya cobaan mendera kita.. 
Ada kalanya keceriaan menjadi nyata..
 
Salam bej.
 
 
 


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Beraksinya hama penggerek batang di bej.

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Handoko Satria



ga terus bozz..., sampe 3 digit



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[obrolan-bandar] Beraksinya hama penggerek batang di bej.

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik T O K A I





Menyebabkan indeks kembali terjungkal
ke titik 1.069.06
Selamat bagi anda-anda pemegang uang tunai..
bersabarlah bagi anda-anda pemegang lembar kepemilikan
mendung tak berarti hujan yakinlah itu suatu cobaan.
Tak selamanya cobaan mendera kita.. 
Ada kalanya keceriaan menjadi nyata..
 
Salam bej.
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] YAKINLAH ITU SUATU COBAAN.

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik T O K A I



Cucu Embah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Salam kenal semua ...
 
Ini cucu embah mau compalint, kemaren disuruh pake jas panjang, lengkap jas ujan juga, rencana datang ke pesta, sesampai di pesta ternyata ujan gede, pesta bubar, boro2 sempet ngerasain makanan utama, dessert nya aja ngak kebagian. duch nasib..
 
Sekarang cucu ambil tongkat mbah, kalo kepala BD nongol, siap mentung
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Mendung tak berarti hujannnnn

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Cucu Embah



Salam kenal semua ...
 
Ini cucu embah mau compalint, kemaren disuruh pake jas panjang, lengkap jas ujan juga, rencana datang ke pesta, sesampai di pesta ternyata ujan gede, pesta bubar, boro2 sempet ngerasain makanan utama, dessert nya aja ngak kebagian. duch nasib..
 
Sekarang cucu ambil tongkat mbah, kalo kepala BD nongol, siap mentung
 
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[obrolan-bandar] FW: When to sell

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik rpidie



Buat long term investor, sebelum jual baca dulu yg berikut.

rz

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http://www.investing-for-growth.co.uk/Marketing/special.htm

Five years ago, Jim Slater published an article on when to sell. In 
view of the current market turbulence and uncertainty, we thought it 
would be a good idea to invite him to edit and update his article. We 
consider this an all time classic and we are sure it will be of great 
interest to all our subscribers.


Jim Slater - When to sell 

Most of the questions at investment conferences are from private 
investors who want to know when to sell. There is no simple formula. 
The answer is complex, individual and according to one's personal 
circumstances and temperament.

There are really two problems. The firt is whether or not to reduce 
the general level of your portfolio and the second is when to sell 
particular shares. If you are unhappy about the percentage of your 
money invested in the market and about the performance of particular 
shares then the obvious remedy is to sell the shares. However, if you 
are happy with the overall level of your portfolio but worried about 
particular shares that is a very different matter. 

The general problem of the percentage you invest needs to be 
considered first. 

Patient money 

The key point is to invest only 'patient money' that can be locked up 
for the longer term and will not be needed suddenly. Shares should be 
bought systematically and selected with the greatest of care and 
attention to detail. 

When the Coppock Indicator gives a bullish signal it usually pays to 
have your patient money fully invested. After Coppock buy signals, 
the bullish trend usually lasts about 14 months and the average gain 
is about 30%. Unfortunately, Coppock does not give reliable sell 
signals but a year after the buy signal it usually pays to become 
more wary. 
  
Signs of a bear market approaching 

Cash is usually a very undesirable asset. As a result, cash balances 
of institutional and private investors will typically be at very low 
levels at the start of a bear market. American investors describe the 
mood well: 'cash is trash'. 

Value will be hard to find. The average PEG will be well over one and 
there will be few, if any, shares standing at a substantial discount 
to asset values. 
The average dividend yield will be at historically very low levels. 
Interest rates will usually be about to rise. Certainly, the chances 
of them falling further will be minimal. 
The consensus of investment advisers will be bullish and the general 
mood of investors will be upbeat. 
New issues will be rampant and of increasingly low quality. The 
fundamentals of each issue will be less relevant to investors than 
how many shares they get hold of to make a quick turn and be ready to 
subscribe to the next one. 
The ratio of directors buying to directors selling will have fallen 
to historically low levels.
Shares will be failing to respond to good results, even for those 
companies that beat forecasts. This is a sign that the market is 
exhausted and very little buying power remains.
The market will be the subject on everyone's lips at dinner parties. 
Enthusiasm for shares and unit trusts will also be evidenced by the 
increased space given in newspapers and magazines. 
When over 75% of all the shares in the market have been standing 
above their long-term averages but then fall below 75%, that is 
usually a bearish technical signal.
The broad money supply will usually be contracting. 
A major change in market leadership will take place. Cyclicals often 
do well near the top of bull markets.
  
As you can see, very few of these factors are in place today. In many 
cases, the opposite is true. For example, interest rates are more 
likely to fall than rise, the consensus is more bearish than bullish 
and new issues are at a low ebb. However, the bear is a wily animal 
and each bear market seems to have a few different characteristics 
from the last one. As always with personal investment, you have to 
make the final decision.

Sell down to your sleep level 

When there is too much uncertainty in the air, it is tempting to 
become more liquid. Even then, I would advise active investors to 
leave about 75% of their patient money invested. The main reason for 
this is that they could easily be wrong. Also, it is almost 
impossible to judge the top of the market to sell and the bottom when 
it comes to re-enter. Also, costs and capital gains tax have to be 
taken into account. For most investors, therefore, it pays to weather 
the storms that lie ahead with their patient money. 

Everyone's temperament is different so, in a very bearish climate, 
some investors may prefer to tune down their investments to 50% of 
their patient money. If your investments are keeping you awake at 
night, it obviously makes sense to reduce the percentage invested 
down to your sleep level.

Warren Buffett's approach to selling particular shares 

Now we come to the

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ayo kita GEBUK si BD (1074)

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Jimmy Gunawan


mbah, apa2 aja yg mo diserbu?
biar kita2 bisa ngikut meskipun scr gerilya...
targetnya sama nggak: 
ISAT, BNBR, PTBA, PTBA-W, TKIM, UNSP, SIIP


JG



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[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY AGAIN AT AROUND 1.070

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik rpidie



lihat dulu difinisinya.

perbandingannya dari ihsg tertinggi.
1. pull back: minus 0~10%
2. correction: 10%~20%
3. bear market : 20% atau lebih.

mengingat penggerak ihsg isat, tlkm, rokok, dan beberapa bank, ya 
perlu judgment khusus atas klasifikasi tsb. apalagi faktor bandar 
konon sangat penting.

kalo baru turun 1150 ke 1070, ya sekitar 7%.

Masih pull back

untuk meletus bubble, masih harus turun 150 point lagi tuh, kalo 
perlu sampe nyentuh 900. so; buy again at around 870


rz

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DIBUMBUI
> PANIC SELLING (APA LAGI DLM WKT SINGKAT). 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUY AGAIN AT AROUND 1.070

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Others





Apakah akhirnya BUBBLE ISHG meletus minggu 
ini?


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BETUL, LEBIH BAGUS BELI WAKTU INDEX TERKOREKSI CUKUP 
BANYAK YG DIBUMBUI PANIC SELLING (APA LAGI DLM WKT SINGKAT). 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HIJAUKAH HARI INI?

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Iffan Suryanto

terus..terus...how low you can go??? Hidup bandar...hidup
bandar...
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IHSG udah -25 jam 10;49 pak karno 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ayo kita GEBUK si BD (1074)

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Karno Edy





 

Maju maju ! 
Bersama kita bisa
Keroyok bantai, paehan?
 
 

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  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:53 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 
  HIJAUKAH HARI INI?
  
  Pasukan, maju sebelum close !!
  
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Edy 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:20 
AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 
HIJAUKAH HARI INI?

Mudah-mudahan aja tambah merah supaya bisa bow 
bow bow

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Another hot BF ?

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Karno Edy





-10 atau 400 bid? yh pedit,  gua sumpahin 
loe Oom !

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  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:06 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Another hot 
  BF ?
  
  -15 padahal ELTY aja -50
   
  Oom bagi-bagi dong barangnya, Oom kan 
  baek
  kalo bisa below 395 atau 380, ngga minta barang 
  banyak2 koq.
  
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From: 
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Edy 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:34 
PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Another 
hot BF ?

Waduh dipukul nih
 
 
IHSG -14.311 or - 1.280%
SIIP - 8.88% (triple 8 angka baik nih) 

 
Boleh juga nih.., masuk ah kalo tiga ratusan 
mumpung deposit mau cair.
 
tumben  Om BD mau bagi-bagi barang murah 
:)
 

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  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Another 
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  xxx wrote :
   
  Saya selama ini tidak tertarik dengan saham properti yg 
  aneh2.Tapi melihat pergerakan JIHD, SIIP, KIJA, CTRA, dkk sekarang, 
  saya jaditergoda.Cuma bingung man yg paling okay diantara yg 
  aneh tsb.Kalo JIHD sudah mahal, CTRA masih negatif PER dan BV, 
  KIJA target 200 udahdekat, ELTY juga udah lari.Apa benar SIIP 
  potensial?Apa bisa dishare info SIIP?
  Potensial ? jelas!, embah aja bilang saham 
  property paling bagus
  Info SIIP ? ngga ada, semuanya udah dishare 
  di milis OB. Beginilah kalo Oom BD mau 
  naekin harga di hari Senin, teu beja-beja (ngga ngerti juga? coba 
  tanya embah)
  
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Edy 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 
5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 
Another hot BF ?

IHSG +19
BKSL, DART, ELTY, JRPT, rata-rata sektor 
property ijo
 
SIIP -10 tutup 380
Ini yang namanya perbandaran.
Sabar kita wait aja dulu, moga2 terus 
diturunin spy kita bisa ikutin bandar yg mau ngumpulin di harga 
murah.

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  Edy 
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  Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 
  4:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 
  Another hot BF ?
  
  Klarifikasi
   
  Kenaikan laba bersih  PT SIIP 
  signifikan 473% ternyata bukan berita baru (sudah pernah muncul 
  tgl 24//2 di e-bursa.), belum ada bukti
   
  Namun, bukti otentiknya baru ada di 
  website BEJ.
  http://www.jsx.co.id/_dl.asp?cmd=dl&id=undefined&TODIR=&CURDIR=/Corporate_Actions/New_Info_JSX/Jenis_Informasi/01_Laporan_Keuangan/02_Soft_Copy_Laporan_Keuangan/Laporan%20Keuangan%20Tahun%202004/Desember%202004/Suryainti%20Permata%20(SIIP)/
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Karno Edy 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 
5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 
Another hot BF ?

Moga-moga aja turun dulu agak banyak 
spy kita bisa beli di harga murah.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Karno Edy 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 
  3:04 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] 
  Another hot BF ?
  
  Baru buka-buka lapkeu emiten BEJ, ada 
  satu yang menarik perhatian ane, ane prediksikan saham ini bakal 
  nge-boost.
  
  Wa sampe terkagum2 liat laporan 
  keuangannya. Current price Rp400, EPS 
  92, P/BV 0.61(see attachment). Wa udah ringkesin di excell. 
  Untuk lengkapnya, bisa liat di JSX ato FS 
  ARC 
  Ini perusahaan sudah listing cukup 
  lama, perusahaan properti tukang bikin ruko berpusat di 
  Surabaya.
  Setahu saya dari sejak 
  listing [EMAIL PROTECTED] belum 
  pernah menambah jumlah sahamnya.
   
  Perumahan permata masih kalah tenar 
  sama Pembangunan Jaya, Kelapa Gading, jadi ditawar lebih murah. 
  BTW,  jauh lebih murah rasio2nya mulai dari book value, PER, 
  ...dibanding rata-rata industri (property).
   
  Oleh karena itu wa recommend 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: HIJAUKAH HARI INI?

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik investor_ngesot




PELOR UDAH ABIS KEMAREN BOS.!!!

naikin dong hari ini...


HIJO..HIJO..  PHU   (jampi-jampi..)



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[obrolan-bandar] Ayo kita GEBUK si BD (1074)

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant



Ayo kita GEBUK si BD (1074)

Embah mulai nembak, yang mau ikut resiko sendiri...

...

embah








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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Another hot BF ?

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Karno Edy





-15 padahal ELTY aja -50
 
Oom bagi-bagi dong barangnya, Oom kan 
baek
kalo bisa below 395 atau 380, ngga minta barang 
banyak2 koq.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Karno Edy 
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:34 
PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Another hot 
  BF ?
  
  Waduh dipukul nih
   
   
  IHSG -14.311 or - 1.280%
  SIIP - 8.88% (triple 8 angka baik nih) 
  
   
  Boleh juga nih.., masuk ah kalo tiga ratusan 
  mumpung deposit mau cair.
   
  tumben  Om BD mau bagi-bagi barang murah 
  :)
   
  
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From: 
Karno 
Edy 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:19 
PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Another 
hot BF ?

 
xxx wrote :
 
Saya selama ini tidak tertarik dengan saham properti yg aneh2.Tapi 
melihat pergerakan JIHD, SIIP, KIJA, CTRA, dkk sekarang, saya 
jaditergoda.Cuma bingung man yg paling okay diantara yg aneh 
tsb.Kalo JIHD sudah mahal, CTRA masih negatif PER dan BV, KIJA 
target 200 udahdekat, ELTY juga udah lari.Apa benar SIIP 
potensial?Apa bisa dishare info SIIP?
Potensial ? jelas!, embah aja bilang saham 
property paling bagus
Info SIIP ? ngga ada, semuanya udah dishare di 
milis OB. Beginilah kalo Oom BD mau naekin 
harga di hari Senin, teu beja-beja (ngga ngerti juga? coba tanya 
embah)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Karno 
  Edy 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:52 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Another 
  hot BF ?
  
  IHSG +19
  BKSL, DART, ELTY, JRPT, rata-rata sektor 
  property ijo
   
  SIIP -10 tutup 380
  Ini yang namanya perbandaran.
  Sabar kita wait aja dulu, moga2 terus 
  diturunin spy kita bisa ikutin bandar yg mau ngumpulin di harga 
  murah.
  
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Karno 
Edy 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 
4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 
Another hot BF ?

Klarifikasi
 
Kenaikan laba bersih  PT SIIP 
signifikan 473% ternyata bukan berita baru (sudah pernah muncul tgl 
24//2 di e-bursa.), belum ada bukti
 
Namun, bukti otentiknya baru ada di website 
BEJ.
http://www.jsx.co.id/_dl.asp?cmd=dl&id=undefined&TODIR=&CURDIR=/Corporate_Actions/New_Info_JSX/Jenis_Informasi/01_Laporan_Keuangan/02_Soft_Copy_Laporan_Keuangan/Laporan%20Keuangan%20Tahun%202004/Desember%202004/Suryainti%20Permata%20(SIIP)/
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Karno 
  Edy 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 
  5:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 
  Another hot BF ?
  
  Moga-moga aja turun dulu agak banyak spy 
  kita bisa beli di harga murah.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Karno Edy 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 
3:04 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] 
Another hot BF ?

Baru buka-buka lapkeu emiten BEJ, ada 
satu yang menarik perhatian ane, ane prediksikan saham ini bakal 
nge-boost.

Wa sampe terkagum2 liat laporan 
keuangannya. Current price Rp400, EPS 
92, P/BV 0.61(see attachment). Wa udah ringkesin di excell. 
Untuk lengkapnya, bisa liat di JSX ato FS 
ARC 
Ini perusahaan sudah listing cukup 
lama, perusahaan properti tukang bikin ruko berpusat di 
Surabaya.
Setahu saya dari sejak listing [EMAIL PROTECTED] belum pernah menambah 
jumlah sahamnya.
 
Perumahan permata masih kalah tenar 
sama Pembangunan Jaya, Kelapa Gading, jadi ditawar lebih murah. BTW, 
 jauh lebih murah rasio2nya mulai dari book value, PER, 
...dibanding rata-rata industri (property).
 
Oleh karena itu wa recommend 
buy, cocok buat invest/simpen. Inget petuah embah 
:1. Bandar kan felit, kalo semua ikut long, susah 
naeknya.
2. Untuk jangka waktu yang tidak tentu 
wa kira saham ini mungkin ditekan karena informasi 
ini disebarluaskan, yang baca lapkeu dari BEJ & bandar mau 
beli di harga bawah.
3. Usahakan invest untuk term invest 
yang lebih panjang, supaya pengaruh perbandaran tidak terlalu 
berasa.
 
Jadi disclaimer, bertindak

[obrolan-bandar] BUMI turun 10%

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant



BUMI turun 10%

peringatan embah sejak posting ARMAGEDON ampe sekarang
GEMA nya masih terasa









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[obrolan-bandar] BUY AGAIN AT AROUND 1.070

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik SOLO




BETUL, LEBIH BAGUS BELI WAKTU INDEX 
TERKOREKSI CUKUP BANYAK YG DIBUMBUI PANIC SELLING (APA LAGI DLM WKT 
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[obrolan-bandar] Ngga jd pesta deh

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik ANG CIT KONG





Yeah sdh rapi2 pake lengan panjang mau pesta malah 
di suruh cuci piring dah  hiks




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HIJAUKAH HARI INI?

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Karno Edy





Pasukan, maju sebelum close !!

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  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:20 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 
  HIJAUKAH HARI INI?
  
  Mudah-mudahan aja tambah merah supaya bisa bow 
  bow bow
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: HIJAUKAH HARI INI?

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant



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IHSG udah -25 jam 10;49 pak karno 


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: DOUBOL: mirip uztad dikampung maling

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik investor_ngesot





deposito ?  mahluk apakah itu ?  kok masih ada yg minathehehe...

pasar uang lebih liquid boss..  2 hari cair,  ada yg 9% /th stabil.



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> >Mbah, Jangan hanya angkat topi doang...
> >kita-kita musti piye iki? (*Panic mode*)...
> >dalam 2 hari, index minus 40 point lebih
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HIJAUKAH HARI INI?

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Karno Edy





Mudah-mudahan aja tambah merah supaya bisa bow bow 
bow

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] HIJAUKAH HARI INI?

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Iffan Suryanto

wah deposito belon cair neh ;p
At 12:57 PM 3/29/2005 +1000, SOLO wrote:
Perkiraan saya index akan mulai
hijau hari ini. 

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: HIJAUKAH HARI INI?

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant



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> Perkiraan saya index akan mulai hijau hari ini.

ketika IHSG dijatohin -17, pasar sama sekali tidak ada PERLAWANAN.

Makanya IHSG dinaekin lagi ABIS ENGGA ADA LAWAN...

Ngapain nurunin kalo engga ada lawan, sama aja ama NENDANG ANGIN.

Mudah mudahan aja trader UDAH PADA KAPOK jadi IHSG bisa naek lagi.













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[obrolan-bandar] HIJAUKAH HARI INI?

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik SOLO




Perkiraan saya index akan mulai hijau hari 
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[obrolan-bandar] IHSG jatuh -17 in low volume

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant



IHSG jatuh -17 in low volume

Sehingga bisa rebound ke -8 jam 09;53








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RE: [obrolan-bandar] DOUBOL: mirip uztad dikampung maling

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Iffan Suryanto

tenang aja..turun terus makin bagus..kita bisa koleksi saham...cairkan
semua deposito...
At 07:47 AM 3/29/2005 +0700, Others wrote:
Mbah,
Jangan hanya angkat topi doang...
kita-kita musti piye iki?
(*Panic mode*)...
dalam 2 hari, index minus 40
point lebih
naek sulit, mlorot cepet
tenan...


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] DOUBOL: mirip uztad dikampung maling

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Others





Mbah, 
Jangan hanya angkat topi doang...
kita-kita musti piye iki? (*Panic mode*)...
dalam 
2 hari, index minus 40 point lebih
naek 
sulit, mlorot cepet tenan...




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Re: [Milis-AATI] Memeras lemak investor GEMUK -- Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bandarisme?

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik T O K A I



BD juga dikejar target "harus bisa menghimpun dana sesuai instruksi"sebenarnya juga kegiatan akumulasi oleh BD dapat kita analisa
dengan melihat sekuritas yang ikut jual beli didalamnya.
oleh karenanya kita harus selalu menatap trade done.
 
saat indeks -32 kamis kemarin banyak investor yakin this is the right time to shop..
tapi kalau kita kaitkan dengan indeks yang mencapai 1150 sudah sepantasnya penurunan
itu terjadi,
(maunya naik terus tapi sampai berapa bukankah ini titik optimum?)
secara tekhnikal support kemungkinan ada di 990,
atau bahkan TIDAK TERDAPAT SUPPORT dan POLA INDEKS MENGIKUTI SAHAM SQMI.
Who knows!
 
 
Keputusan ada ditangan bandar...
 
Hendra Bujang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Tambahan Mbah Dukun, 
- Yang goreng tidak hanya seorang superman, tapi bisa juga konsorsium dan sistemnya bagi hasil, skenarionya sama seperti lukisan mbah
- Dana yang dipakai bisa self equity or debt (margin)...kadang2 kombinasi, tergantung kebutuhan
- Sebelum rekomendasi yang bagus2 keluar, barangnya sudah di-collect sejak lama & perlahan (slow but sure)
- Setelah volume & price aktif, baru analisis TA menjustifikasi
- Hasilnya, TA & FA sama2 happy, targetnya achievable (tergantung medan tempur)
- Kalau supply> demand, sahamnya terbang ke awan2 dengan megahnya. Tapi kalau demand>supply, banjir bandang tsunami terulang seperti jumat kemarin(Ketakutan akan banjir bandang tsunami pernah saya ungkap dalam posting sebelumnya pada saat JSX bermain dilevel 1150...dan akhirnya terbukti, momentumnya pas sekal).
Kalau lihat posisi JSX hari ini, sudah pasti banyak investor gede2 kejebak + nyangkut diatas, & estimasi saya pasti kena "margin call". 
 
Jadi kapan sang embah mau menolong orang2 yang tengah berkutat dengan banjir bandang ini? 2-3 hari lagi? atau sekalian minggu depan..pas udah kelelap semua? he..he
 
Embah emang TOP!!!
 
 
So? pasar sulit menang lawan bandar 
jsx-consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Others wrote:>  Mengenai bandarisme?um...apa benar seh, ISHG naik-turun karena faktor> bandar?berarti, yang jadi bandar (1 atau 2 kelompok, kartel???) enak> toh.whatever happen, cuan melulu.masa mereka bisa mengalahkan pasar?>Coba anda komentari CASE yang embah tulis dibawah ini untukmembantu membuka JERUJI BESI yang mungkin ada disekelilingotak kita:- Seorang Super Power mengumpulkan saham x pada level 950,  1000 dan 1050 dalam jumlah BESAR, misalnya 10 miliar dengan  average COST = 1000 perak.- Selama akumulasi saham x tsb, saham x naik 100 perak dari 950  ke 1050 atau sekitar 10% karena akumulasi dilakukan secara  LOW PROFILE.- Tahap selanjutnya, si SP menyediakan DANA PENGGORENGAN   misalnya 20% dari sahamnya yaitu 2 miliar untuk menggoreng  saham.
 Jadi COST nya si SP menjadi 10 + 2 = 12 miliar atau  average COST per lembar saham menjadi = 1200.- Yang dilakukan si SP ialah memasang OFFER pada  harga yang lebih tinggi dari pada harga closing kemarin. Lalu  secara agresip dia MEMAKAN barangnya sendiri. - Ini dia lakukan SETIAP HARI, akibatnya harga akan bergerak  NAIK secara MEYAKINKAN, perbuatan si SP BAGI BAGI duit SEBESAR  2 miliar akan MEMANCING SEMUT SEMUT untuk DATANG.- Dan yang datang bukan cuman semut semut biasa, SEMUT2 AHLI  TA aja akan DATANG karena grafik TA nya jadi BAGUS.- Dan sesudah itu, saham x akan direkomendasikan oleh para   analyst di media dengan SEMUA BERITA 'BAGUS' nya tanpa  perlu ongkos pasang iklan.- Pada saat ini PASAR sudah 'DIKALAHKAN' dalam arti KEMAKAN  TIPUAN tapi dalam FAKTAnya PASAR MALAH membantu si SP terus  menaikan harga. Anggaplah harga sudah berhasil naik kelevel  1500
 dan si SP berhasil menjual 30% dari portfolionya diharga  1500. Jadi dia untung 1500-1200=300 atau 25%.- Misal sesudah si SP buang barangnya 30%, harga tidak jatuh  banyak dan para ahli TA bilang: INI SIH CUMAN KOREKSI SEHAT.  Maka si SP akan menDOUBLE lagi DANA PENGGORENGAN jadi 4 miliar  buat MENGGOSONGKAN saham x ke 2000 dan menjual sisa  sahamnya yang masih sisa 70%.- Cerita ini bisa anda lanjutkan sendiri sampe HAPPY ENDING.Inti cerita ini:- MARKET bisa dikalahkan olen si BD dengan menggunakan POWER  atau TAKTIK. - Pada case ini PASAR dikalahkan oleh si BD dengan TAKTIK DOANG,  dalam arti PASAR mengikuti KEINGINAN si BD tanpa DISADARI.- Jika anda untung 100%, beli di 1000 jual di 2000, apakah  anda merasa si BD mengalahkan pasar ?.- Tapi sesudah itu harga akan turun lagi dari 2000 ke 1000   sesudah HAJATAN selesai. Siapakah yang rugi ?, yang jelas  si SP
 udah ZERO STOCK. Siapa yang menanggung kerugian 1000  perak (2000-1000).- Mendorong mobil ke puncak sangat berat sedangkan mendorong  mobil kejurang GAMPANG banget. Untuk menaikan 1000 ke 2000   perlu BBM dan SIASAT, tapi untuk nurunin dari 2000 KE 1000   engga perlu BBM malah dapet BBM dari LEMAK LEMAK investor   GEMUK yang AKAN diperas ABIS ABISAN sampe KELUAR   DARAH nya. embah Untuk unsubscribe dari group ini, kirim email ke:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] DOUBOL: mirip uztad dikampung maling

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Hari Anggono










Adalah benar indeks kita sudah tidak masuk
akal 

 

Salam,

 

-hari-

 

-Original Message-
From: jsx_consultant
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:34
PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] DOUBOL:
mirip uztad dikampung maling

 



15:26

IHSG kembali turun -14

Satu satunya orang yang bilang IHSG turun cuman
si DOUBOL di forum tetangga.

Embah perhatiin dia udah mirip uztad dikampung
maling,
sendirian TERIAK TERIAK IHSG mau turun ngelawan
orang sekampung

Orang seperti ini UDAH JARANG mungkin UDAH jadi
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: DUOBL: MAN OF THE DAY versi milis OB

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik investor_ngesot




Mbah..  kalau DUOBOL itu bahasa Jawa artinya 'ambeien'..

atau bisa juga artinya murus2 ke belakang melulu..


apakah artinya index bakal mencret terus..??



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
> 
> 
> DUOBL: MAN OF THE DAY versi milis OB 
> 
> 
> Hari ini embah memberi GELAR KEHORMATAN bagi mr DUOBL dari
> forum Klubsaham sebagai MAN OF THE DAY
> 
> Keberanian Mr DUOBL melawan orang sekampung dalam 
> berargumentasi musti diberi PENGHARGAAN.
> 
> Dengan NEKADnya Mr DUOBL berteriak teriak bahwa index
> akan JATUH meskipun mendapat CEMOOHAN dari orang 
> sekampung 
> 
> Orang seperti INI musti DILESTARIKAN agar tidak MUSNAH
> dihajar ama maling...
> 
> Mari kita angkat topi buat Mr DUOBL meskipun IHSG 
> ditutup -14...
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 15:26
> > 
> > IHSG kembali turun -14
> > 
> > Satu satunya orang yang bilang IHSG turun cuman
> > si DOUBOL di forum tetangga.
> > 
> > Embah perhatiin dia udah mirip uztad dikampung maling,
> > sendirian TERIAK TERIAK IHSG mau turun ngelawan
> > orang sekampung
> > 
> > Orang seperti ini UDAH JARANG mungkin UDAH jadi
> > BARANG ANTIK 








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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Another hot BF ?

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Karno Edy





Waduh dipukul nih
 
 
IHSG -14.311 or - 1.280%
SIIP - 8.88% (triple 8 angka baik nih) 

 
Boleh juga nih.., masuk ah kalo tiga ratusan 
mumpung deposit mau cair.
 
tumben  Om BD mau bagi-bagi barang murah 
:)
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Karno Edy 
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:19 
PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Another hot 
  BF ?
  
   
  xxx wrote :
   
  Saya selama ini tidak tertarik dengan saham properti yg aneh2.Tapi 
  melihat pergerakan JIHD, SIIP, KIJA, CTRA, dkk sekarang, saya 
  jaditergoda.Cuma bingung man yg paling okay diantara yg aneh 
  tsb.Kalo JIHD sudah mahal, CTRA masih negatif PER dan BV, KIJA target 
  200 udahdekat, ELTY juga udah lari.Apa benar SIIP 
  potensial?Apa bisa dishare info SIIP?
  Potensial ? jelas!, embah aja bilang saham 
  property paling bagus
  Info SIIP ? ngga ada, semuanya udah dishare di 
  milis OB. Beginilah kalo Oom BD mau naekin 
  harga di hari Senin, teu beja-beja (ngga ngerti juga? coba tanya 
  embah)
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Karno 
Edy 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:52 
PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Another 
hot BF ?

IHSG +19
BKSL, DART, ELTY, JRPT, rata-rata sektor 
property ijo
 
SIIP -10 tutup 380
Ini yang namanya perbandaran.
Sabar kita wait aja dulu, moga2 terus diturunin 
spy kita bisa ikutin bandar yg mau ngumpulin di harga murah.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Karno 
  Edy 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:13 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Another 
  hot BF ?
  
  Klarifikasi
   
  Kenaikan laba bersih  PT SIIP signifikan 
  473% ternyata bukan berita baru (sudah pernah muncul tgl 24//2 di 
  e-bursa.), belum ada bukti
   
  Namun, bukti otentiknya baru ada di website 
  BEJ.
  http://www.jsx.co.id/_dl.asp?cmd=dl&id=undefined&TODIR=&CURDIR=/Corporate_Actions/New_Info_JSX/Jenis_Informasi/01_Laporan_Keuangan/02_Soft_Copy_Laporan_Keuangan/Laporan%20Keuangan%20Tahun%202004/Desember%202004/Suryainti%20Permata%20(SIIP)/
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Karno 
Edy 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 5:04 
PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 
Another hot BF ?

Moga-moga aja turun dulu agak banyak spy 
kita bisa beli di harga murah.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Karno 
  Edy 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 
  3:04 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Another 
  hot BF ?
  
  Baru buka-buka lapkeu emiten BEJ, ada 
  satu yang menarik perhatian ane, ane prediksikan saham ini bakal 
  nge-boost.
  
  Wa sampe terkagum2 liat laporan 
  keuangannya. Current price Rp400, EPS 92, 
  P/BV 0.61(see attachment). Wa udah ringkesin di excell. Untuk 
  lengkapnya, bisa liat di JSX ato FS ARC 
  Ini perusahaan sudah listing cukup lama, 
  perusahaan properti tukang bikin ruko berpusat di 
  Surabaya.
  Setahu saya dari sejak listing [EMAIL PROTECTED] belum pernah menambah 
  jumlah sahamnya.
   
  Perumahan permata masih kalah tenar sama 
  Pembangunan Jaya, Kelapa Gading, jadi ditawar lebih murah. BTW, 
   jauh lebih murah rasio2nya mulai dari book value, PER, 
  ...dibanding rata-rata industri (property).
   
  Oleh karena itu wa recommend 
  buy, cocok buat invest/simpen. Inget petuah embah 
  :1. Bandar kan felit, kalo semua ikut long, susah 
  naeknya.
  2. Untuk jangka waktu yang tidak tentu wa 
  kira saham ini mungkin ditekan karena informasi 
  ini disebarluaskan, yang baca lapkeu dari BEJ & bandar mau 
  beli di harga bawah.
  3. Usahakan invest untuk term invest yang 
  lebih panjang, supaya pengaruh perbandaran tidak terlalu 
  berasa.
   
  Jadi disclaimer, bertindak sesuai resiko 
  yang berani ditanggung masing2.
   
  Brengsek nih, sebelum lapkeu nya ada di 
  site BEJ muncul, sahamnya udah naek duluan
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] TLKM: Till the DEATH apart us ..Re: Embah, Tbone general (1110)..

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik Karno Edy





Mbah, BDnya marah sama kita  :))
 
but T Bone Steak tetap bertahan 
yahhhahhahha
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  jsx-consultant 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 12:44 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TLKM: Till 
  the DEATH apart us ..Re: Embah, Tbone general (1110)..
  11:40 
  TLKM +100 +2,2% 
  Till the DEATH apart us akan jadi LIVE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER...   
  Karno Edy wrote: 
   

 11.34IHSG -18 yES!Tetap Semangat !! 

  - Original Message -
  From: 
  jsx_consultant
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:14 
  AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TLKM: Till 
  the DEATH apart us ..Re: Embah, Tbone general (1110)..  
  Ketika IHSG -14, embah kembali menunjukan KESETIAN pada 
  sumpah PERKAWINAN ama TLKM : - TILL the DEATH apart 
  US 
  TLKM yang tadi pagi minus sekarang udah netral lagi 
  pak Karno, To the DEATH dari KOMENTATOR... 
  hehehe...   
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
  "jsx_consultant"  [EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote: 
  > > > 09:36 
  > > IHSG -8 karena index regional pada turun 
  -1% > > tapi embah yang udah TEKEN 
  KONTRAK: TO THE DEATH > ama TLKM dan ISAT berhasil menahan 
  kejatuhan > IHSG dengan menaukan ISAT +100... 
  > > RODA BERPUTAR, yg dibawah jadi DIATAS... 
  PEMERATAAN > kata mentri ... eh salah kata bandar... 
  hehehe... > > --- In 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant  > 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 
  Efendi wrote: > > > > > Permisi 
  Bapak2 investor sekalian, > > > > 
  > > Saya mau nanya donk.. gimana caranya perhitungan angka 
  indeks di > BEJ (maksud > 
  > > saya IHSG) ? Maklum saya masih pemula, baru belajar2 
  investasi. > > > Apalagi ada yg bilang TLKM dan ISAT 
  bisa mendongkrak angka > indeks. Lah, itu 
  > > > gimana? Piye toh.. saya jd bingung.. 
  > > > > > > > INDEX 
  secara kasar menggambarkan TINGKAT HARGA2 SAHAM,jika harga2 
  > saham > > naek maka INDEX akan naik. 
  Didalam menghitung IHSG > > masing masing saham diberi 
  BOBOT yang berbeda sesuai besarnya MARKET > 
  > CAPITALISATION. > > > > Embah 
  katakan jika TLKM dan ISAT didongkrak maka IHSG akan BULLISH 
  > > lagi karena: > > 1. Market 
  Capitalisation TLKM dan ISAT cukup besar jadi efeknya > 
  terhadap > > index lumayan 
  besar. > > 2. Likwiditas TLKM dan ISAT di BEJ lumayan 
  besar, Likwiditas tidak > sama 
  > > dengan capitalisation. 
  Likwiditas lebih menunjukan FREQUENCY > saham 
  > > itu diperdagangkan. Jadi kalo 
  saham yang LIKWID naek, maka > banyak > 
  >    trader yang BERSORAK SORAK. Artinya kalo TLKM dan 
  ISAT naek akan > >    
  timbul KEGAIRAHAN dan EUPHORIA di pasar. > > 3. Selama 
  beberapa bulan terkahir, saham TLKM dan ISAT turun 
  BANYAK > >    dissaat IHSG naek 
  GILA2AN. Artinya banyak investor yang MURUNG > 
  >    karena KEJEDUT. > >   
  Nah jika TLKM dan ISAT diangkat maka BURSA AKAN SANGAT > 
  >   BERGAIRAH karena banyak investor yang sekarang MURUNG 
  akan > >   semangat lagi TRADING karena bisa 
  keluar dari GOT ... dan > akibatnya > 
  >   IHSG akan terangkat oleh EUPHORIA ini. Jadi ini 
  lebih berhungungan > >   dengan 
  TEORI PSIKOLOGI  PASAR daripada TEORI > 
  >   EKONOMI nya pak Latuhihin.. > > 4. 
  Untuk mengangkat TLKM dan ISAT memang perlu dana GEDE tapi 
  > >   jika si BOZZ pake DONGKRAK ANTIK model 
  naekin UNVR, dana > >   yang diperlukan tidak 
  besar karena PASAR pada dasarnya bisa DI > >  
  STIMULIR dengan operasi gaya  OPEN MARKET OPERATION > 
  >  orang BI. > > 5. Bikin AJA grafik TA nya 
  bagus dan pasar yang akan menyediakan > >   
  DANAnya karena TERTARIK... iya kan ?. > > 
  > > Jadi semua bisa DIATUR, yang engga bisa diatur cuman 
  para analyst > > dan si SUPER POWER... hehehe... 
  > > > > > > > Mohon 
  penjelasan nih dari bapak2 investor. > > > 
  > > > Terima kasih.., > > > 
  Efendi > > > > > > 
  -Original Message- > > > From: 
  jsx-consultant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...] 
  > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:42 PM 
  > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  > > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Embah, Tbone general 
  (1110).. Re: > Ada yang > > > berani 
  ikut NYANTAP TBONe steak ? > > > > 
  > > 14:37 > > > > > > 
  ISAT 5100 +225 > > > TLKM 4600 +75 > 
  > > > > > jsx_consultant wrote: 
  > > > > > > > Bener pak 
  Boy, > > > > > > > > 
  Supaya IHSG bisa naek lagi ke 1200-1300, TLKM dan ISAT harus 
  > > > > diangkat 5000 dan 6000 > 
  > > > > > > Kalo bukan TLKM dan ISAT apa 
  LAGI ?. Coba pikir saham apa > > > > yang bisa 
  ngangkat IHSG ke 1

[obrolan-bandar] DUOBL: MAN OF THE DAY versi milis OB

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant



DUOBL: MAN OF THE DAY versi milis OB 


Hari ini embah memberi GELAR KEHORMATAN bagi mr DUOBL dari
forum Klubsaham sebagai MAN OF THE DAY

Keberanian Mr DUOBL melawan orang sekampung dalam 
berargumentasi musti diberi PENGHARGAAN.

Dengan NEKADnya Mr DUOBL berteriak teriak bahwa index
akan JATUH meskipun mendapat CEMOOHAN dari orang 
sekampung 

Orang seperti INI musti DILESTARIKAN agar tidak MUSNAH
dihajar ama maling...

Mari kita angkat topi buat Mr DUOBL meskipun IHSG 
ditutup -14...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
> 
> 
> 15:26
> 
> IHSG kembali turun -14
> 
> Satu satunya orang yang bilang IHSG turun cuman
> si DOUBOL di forum tetangga.
> 
> Embah perhatiin dia udah mirip uztad dikampung maling,
> sendirian TERIAK TERIAK IHSG mau turun ngelawan
> orang sekampung
> 
> Orang seperti ini UDAH JARANG mungkin UDAH jadi
> BARANG ANTIK 








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[obrolan-bandar] DOUBOL: mirip uztad dikampung maling

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant



15:26

IHSG kembali turun -14

Satu satunya orang yang bilang IHSG turun cuman
si DOUBOL di forum tetangga.

Embah perhatiin dia udah mirip uztad dikampung maling,
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orang sekampung

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 1100 jebol

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik investor_ngesot





APA YANG TERJADI BOS?

ane baru masuk hari ini nih..


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> 
> HSG 1100 jebol jam 14:50
> 
> Berapa nih SUPPORT nya ?.








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[obrolan-bandar] knapa terjun dalam

2005-03-28 Terurut Topik jack surya





15.00
Terjun dalam banget deh.
knapa yah
 
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