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2005-11-17 Terurut Topik ojopracoyo
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Apakah AGENDA si BOZZ selanjutanya ?.... Sector Finance akan REBOUND hari ini ?

2005-11-17 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



  Mbah...utk perbankan masih tipuan geraknya. Pasar sepi sekali kaya kota hantu. Tebakan gw starting Jum'at atau Senin tgl 21 di gebuk lagi itu saham bank! Awal desember BEJ baru agak hidup.  Kalo bener kirim combro yah!jsx-consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hari ini IHSG ditutup +7,4 di 1033...Jadi sudah tiga hari BERTURUT-TURUT IHSG naik sejak embahmemprediksikan REBOUND.Banyak yang HERAN kenapa embah bisa memprediksikan hal ini, padahalsecara Fundamental tidak MENDUKUNG dan tidak ada LEADING TA signalyang bisa mendukung rebound ini  CMIIW...Tapi setelah tiga hari naik, maka Indikator2 TA pasti akan menunjukansignal BUY BETOEL ENGGA ?.Prediksi embah berdasarkan ASUMSI bahwa pergerakan IHSG adalahsuatu PLANNED AGENDAAgenda APA
 ?AGENDA CARI DOEIT Yaitu BAGAIMANA mencari DOEIT pada pasar BEARISH ?.Pada pasar BEARISH, tentunya GAIN diperoleh dari NGESGORT, right ?.Lalu gimana embah bisa meramalkan NAIK kalo si BOZZ maunya NGESHORT ?.Jawabannya SEDERHANA:- SIAPASIH yang mau DIKADALIN DISHORT TERUS MENERUS ?.- Jadi untuk TERUS bisa NGADALIN trader, bursa harus dibikin menarikdengan TBONE- Nah, pada saat itu sector FINANCE udah diKADALAIN terlalu dalam,jadi berdasarkan perhitungan embah Sektor Finance tentu akan DINAIKANdulu supaya ada LAGI yang MAU BELI ...- Dan ternyata BETOEL sector FINANCE direboundkan sehingga IHSG bisanaik lagi...Nah pertanyaannya:- Apakah AGENDA si BOZZ selanjutanya ?. Silahkan DIANALISA bagiyang berminat dengan ilmu bandarmologi...Bagi penganut TA, silahkan di KOMENTARI apakah 3 soldier padagrafik candlestick dan Indicator yang HIJAU2 menandakanCUKUP BAGUS untuk MASUKBuat
 si BOZZ, apakah signal BUY TA akan digunakan untukMENGGEBUK MARKET LAGI ?Silahkan dianalisa dan diprediksikan, JANGAN TAKUT KALO SALAH !!!EVEN Goei Siao Hong, Ferry Latuhihin, dan semua SENIOR yanggajinya $200.000 per annum JUGA tidak tahu PASTI JAWABANNYA.Yang merasa TAU JAWABANNYA, silahkan NGACOENG entar embahkasih hadiah COMBRO Bandung.SI BOZZ dan ANTEK-ANTEKnya dimilis OB yang lagiNYENGIR-NYENGIR dilarang NGACOENG heheheembah, bandarmologist"www.titan" wrote: ehmjadi penonton aja akhhh[Image] jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 9:45 Sesudah diturunin DULU pagi ini, sector KEUANGAN mulai tancap gas... IHSG naik dari -4 ke +0.79 ... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant 

[obrolan-bandar] tolong mbah-TELKOM SPEEDY--bingung pilih paket yg pas utk trading?

2005-11-17 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Agak nggak nyambung nih?  Mau nanya nih utk anda yg sudah pakai ADSL TELKOM (kepada mbah juga). Utk lihat running trade saham di internet jelasnya download-nya pasti banyak.  Nah kalo mau pilih paket limited, paket yg mana yg cukup kapasitas trafik-nya utk melihat saham terus menerus selama 2 sesi per hari/setiap hari.Yg 500MB/month, yg 1000 atau 2000MB/month? Yg mana nih! Soalnya kalo kelebihan kena charge lagi.  Soalnya koneksi gw via (indonet) Antena radio yg cuma 64kbps tapi unlimited traffic/time, mahal lagi Rp 550.000/bulan (baru naik!). Sering pelan pada jam2 10.00-11.00.




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: tolong mbah-TELKOM SPEEDY--bingung pilih paket yg pas utk trading?

2005-11-17 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Embah saranin pilih paket 500 MB yang termurah,
kalo engga cukup baru naekin ke paket yang lebih GEDE 
yaitu 1000 MB.

Sesudah itu anda CATAT pemakaian anda setiap hari, hal ini PENTING
karena CARA KITA MEMAKAI internet sangat mempengaruhi pemakaian
pulsa SPEEDY. 

Pemakaian SPEEDY mirip pemakaian listrik dirumah, HAL HAL yang
boros seperti AC dan lampu PIJAR harus diganti atau diefisienkankan 
denagn mematikan saat tidak dipakai.

Pada pemakaian SPEEDY untuk bursa, maka BANDWIDTH yang terbesar ialah
RUNNING TRADE. Jadi jika kita tidak lagi trading, sebaiknya RUNNING
trade di CLOSE, cukup lihat BID-OFFER saja.

Jika kita bekerja secara EFISIEN maka 500 MB sudah cukup, jika
kita BOROS dan keperluan internet diluar untuk BURSA cukup gede,
maka paket 1 GB sepertinya yang PALING COCOK...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Agak nggak nyambung nih?
   Mau nanya nih utk anda yg sudah pakai ADSL TELKOM (kepada mbah 
juga). Utk lihat running trade saham di internet jelasnya download-
nya pasti banyak.
   Nah kalo mau pilih paket limited, paket yg mana yg cukup 
kapasitas trafik-nya utk melihat saham terus menerus selama 2 sesi 
per hari/setiap hari.

   Yg 500MB/month, yg 1000 atau 2000MB/month? Yg mana nih! Soalnya 
kalo kelebihan kena charge lagi.
   Soalnya koneksi gw via (indonet) Antena radio yg cuma 64kbps tapi 
unlimited traffic/time, mahal lagi Rp 550.000/bulan (baru naik!). 
Sering pelan pada jam2 10.00-11.00.









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RE: [obrolan-bandar] tolong mbah-TELKOM SPEEDY--bingung pilih paket yg pas utk trading?

2005-11-17 Terurut Topik A3K












Mbah, 

Sekalian tanya ADSL (borad band)

Kalo jij mau kirim email, tulis di SMTP
apa yak ?

Masak utk kirim email aku harus masuk ke
web  



Bisa kasih hints, soalle ADSL ku sharing
sama2 di kantor ..

Tapi nggak ada yang bisa kirim email.

Dan ISP ku pake IDOLA, apa harus pake ISP
khusus dari telkom (telkom net atau apa gitu ??)



Makasih Mbah, Arie















From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of EKA SUWANDANA
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005
7:34 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] tolong
mbah-TELKOM SPEEDY--bingung pilih paket yg pas utk trading?







Agak nggak nyambung nih?





Mau nanya nih utk anda yg sudah pakai ADSL TELKOM (kepada mbah juga).
Utk lihat running trade saham di internet jelasnya download-nya pasti banyak.





Nah kalo mau pilih paket limited, paket yg mana yg cukup kapasitas trafik-nya utk melihat saham terus menerus
selama 2 sesi per hari/setiap hari.











Yg 500MB/month, yg 1000 atau 2000MB/month?
Yg mana nih! Soalnya kalo kelebihan kena charge lagi.





Soalnya koneksi gw via (indonet) Antena radio yg cuma 64kbps tapi unlimited traffic/time, mahal lagi Rp
550.000/bulan (baru naik!). Sering pelan pada jam2 10.00-11.00.








  




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: tolong mbah-TELKOM SPEEDY--bingung pilih paket yg pas utk trading?

2005-11-17 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Coba pake SMTP server punya Telkom yaitu smtp.telkom.net


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, A3K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 
 Mbah, 
 
 Sekalian tanya ADSL (borad band)
 
 Kalo jij mau kirim email, tulis di SMTP apa yak ?
 
 Masak utk kirim email aku harus masuk ke web .. 
 
  
 
 Bisa kasih hints, soalle ADSL ku sharing sama2 di kantor ...
 
 Tapi nggak ada yang bisa kirim email.
 
 Dan ISP ku pake IDOLA, apa harus pake ISP khusus dari telkom 
(telkom net
 atau apa gitu ??)
 
  
 
 Makasih Mbah,  Arie
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of EKA SUWANDANA
 Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:34 AM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] tolong mbah-TELKOM SPEEDY--bingung pilih 
paket yg
 pas utk trading?
 
  
 
 Agak nggak nyambung nih?
 
 Mau nanya nih utk anda yg sudah pakai ADSL TELKOM (kepada mbah 
juga). Utk
 lihat running trade saham di internet jelasnya download-nya pasti 
banyak.
 
 Nah kalo mau pilih paket limited, paket yg mana yg cukup kapasitas
 trafik-nya utk melihat saham terus menerus selama 2 sesi per 
hari/setiap
 hari.
 
  
 
 Yg 500MB/month, yg 1000 atau 2000MB/month? Yg mana nih! Soalnya kalo
 kelebihan kena charge lagi.
 
 Soalnya koneksi gw via (indonet) Antena radio yg cuma 64kbps tapi 
unlimited
 traffic/time, mahal lagi Rp 550.000/bulan (baru naik!). Sering 
pelan pada
 jam2 10.00-11.00.
 
  
 
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[obrolan-bandar] BMRI=kereta mati

2005-11-17 Terurut Topik ANG CIT KONG





Kemaren mbah bilang BMRI = kereta mati, skrg 
bangkit gentayang an nyari2 mbah
Hayooo loe mbah  
hii

Stop penyalahgunaan dan kejahatan Narkoba 
sekarang.Mari kita selamatkan dan bangun bangsa kita, menjadi bangsa 
yang sehat, cerdas, dan maju.

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: BMRI=kereta mati

2005-11-17 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
10;52

BBRI +100 dan BMRI +20, padahal BBRI udah naik berhari-hari ...

Kenapa naek kereta class ECONOMY kalo ada kereta yang lebih
NYAMAN...

Tapi seperti embah bilang kemaren, DEATH TRAIN bisa jadi MOMENTUM
TRAIN dan sebaliknya. PERIODE CONTEXTnya maximum 7 hari...

Jadi pelajari juga REVERSAL pattern menurut TA, jangan terpaku 
dengan posting ORANG LAIN...
 


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[obrolan-bandar] Fwd: [diskusi-TA] The Tyranny of the Living

2005-11-17 Terurut Topik Kang Asep



Kang Asep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  To: Forum Diskusi TA [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: Kang Asep [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:26:33 + (GMT)Subject: [diskusi-TA] The Tyranny of the LivingThe Tyranny of the Living  by Bill Bonner  Each generation needs to learn the mistakes of their forefathers for themselves. Though happy to turn on an electric light invented by a dead man, the living – in love, war, and finance – believe nothing they haven't seen with their own eyes, except when they want to.  "Avoid foreign entanglements," cautioned the father of the country.  But corpses have no voice and no vote, neither in markets nor in politics. George W. Bush is undoubtedly better informed than George Washington. He may not have the wisdom of a Washington nor the brain, but at least he has a pulse.  Few people complain about this tyranny of the living.
 Most accept it as a fact of life. They would not want people to be excluded from the pleasures of life because of an accident of birth. But they are perfectly happy to have the oldest and wisest of our citizens systematically barred from the polling stations and the trading floors by the accident of death. The departed shut up forever, leaving behind them their car keys, their stocks, and their voter registrations – that is all there is to it. Goodbye and good riddance. It is as if they had learned nothing useful, noticed nothing, and had no ideas that might be worth preserving; as if each generation were smarter than the one that preceded it and every son's thoughts improved on those of his father.  Oh, progress! Thou art forever making things better, aren't thou? Throw out the sacred books – what are they, but the thoughts of dead imbeciles? Forget the old rules, old wives' tales, old traditions and
 habits of old generations, old-timers' superstitions, the old fuddy-duddies' doubts! We are the cleverest humans who have ever lived, right?   Maybe. But if we could convene a council from the spirit world and invite the dead to have their say, what would the corpses tell us? Veni et vidi. Gaze on the dead, and learn their secrets. No one seems to care about dead people. No stockbrokers ask for their business. No politicians pander for their votes. No one cares what they think or what they may have learned before they shucked their mortal shell.  They get no respect, just a quick send-off, and then they are on their own. What did the old-timers know of war? Of politics? Of love? Of money? If only we could ask!  Years ago, investors wanted more from a
 stock than just the hope that someone might come along who was willing to pay more for it. They wanted a stock that paid a dividend out of earnings. When heard about a stock, they asked: "How much does it pay?" That was what investing was all about.  But by the 1990s, the old-timers on Wall Street had almost all died off. Stock buyers no longer cared how much the company earned or how large a dividend it paid. All they cared about was that some greater fool would come along and take the stock off their hands at a higher price. And the fools rushed in. And now the market is full of greater and greater fools who think the stock market is there to make them rich. What would the old-timers think of them?  And what would our dead ancestors think of our mortgages? Most of them had small mortgages, if any at all, on their homes. And if
 they had them, they couldn't wait to get rid of them. (Even our own parents held little parties to celebrate finally paying off the mortgage on the family home.) What would our forebears think if they were to learn that the richest generation in American history has mortgaged a greater share of its homes than any in history? What would they think of no-money-down mortgages, minimum payment plans, and negative amortization schedules?  And what would the old-timers think of our government debt? The unpaid liabilities and obligations, expressed as though they had to be paid today, come to about $44 trillion, depending on the source you choose to believe.   And what do the generations of Republicans, now in their graves, who believed so strongly in balanced budgets for so many years, think of the republicano in the White House, who
 has proposed the most unbalanced budgets in history?  And what about the millions of dead Americans who immigrated to the United States to find freedom; what do they think of the country now? They came believing that if they minded their own business, they would be left alone to do what they wanted. But now, every pettifogging Pecksniff with a government service (GS) rating is on their grandchildren's case.  And what about those millions of dead people who scrimped and saved – who got by on almost nothing – so their children and grandchildren might live free, prosperous, and independent lives? What would they think of their descendants, so deep in debt and so dependent on Asian lenders that they can barely pass a Chinese restaurant without bending over