date:20060522






thank you om Marjan
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Marjan 
  Syah 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar]
  Maaf pak, maksud saya AGM, RUPS dalam bahasa Indonesianya atau 
  Rapat Umum Pemegang Saham. Kalau EGM dalam Indonesianya RUPSLB atau RUPS Luar 
  Biasa.
  On 5/24/06, Dodik 
  SUDIYONO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote: 
  


EGM apa yah ? 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Marjan Syah 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:47 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar]
   
  Pak..
   
  Ini ada riset terakhir dari Mandiri Sekuritas, mudah2an membantu. 
  Untuk update lainnya mengenai BLTA kita tunggu aja EGMnya akhir bulan ini. 
  
   
  BR
  MJ 
  On 5/23/06, Eddy 
  Purnomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 
  


Kang Eka, 
 
Biasa kang, minta pencerahan, BLTA bagaimana, sudah nge-research? 
Ada yang tahu saham pelayaran di Singapore terkoreksi seberapa dalam 
?
 
Rumors :
 
Apa betul BLTA listing di S'pore dengan harga USD. 0.5 per share. 
Jika memang demikian berarti harganya equivalent plus-minus IDR. 2.900. 
Tapi ada juga berita listing di IDR 2.200. Listing June 2006.
 
 


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[obrolan-bandar] USDIDR






Rp nguat sikit...
Gold turun sikit..




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on Macro View






Mr Sihombing
 
nampaknya dari 3 predictionnya maka rata-rata jatuh 
dan kembali lagi di 38.6% fibonacci atau bila diekskalasi ihsg saat ini akan 
kuat di 1350 ... jadi karena sekarang ihsg di 1305 setelah sempat menyentuh 1272 
maka bisa diasumsikan akan bergerak naek.
 
jadi paling nggak BLTA saya udah bisa napas 
lagi.
 
analisa ini untuk pribadi, apabila ada yang 
memanfaatkan tidak menjadi kewajiban
 
minta pencerahan dari mbak

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Gregorius 
  Sihombing 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on 
  Macro View
  
  Menyambung grafik Pak Vibby, akankah nantinya IHSG membentukl grafik 
  seperti ini?
   
  GS
   
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Santo Vibby 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:39 
PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on Macro 
View

Sambil iseng berdiskusi dengan salah seorang 
rekan (P'Sulung), beliau menanyakan tentang "Super Bear" yang muncul 
kemarin, setelah ngomong panjang lebar, kami membicarakan mengenai JSX dan 
Dow Teori yang sempet saya posting sebelumnya. Beliau hendak 
mengkonfirmasi analisa saya, dan malah jadinya dari beliau saya yang 
mendapatkan pengetahuan lbh dalam mengenai dow teori..
 
Perhatikan gbr terlampir, JSX membentuk sebuah 
Major Trend (Up) semenjak maret 2003, terbentuk hingga  minggu lalu.. Berdasarkan Dow Theory, dalam sebuah major 
trend, selalu terdapat 3 minor trend yang terjadi... Secara Makro terdapat 
garis Support dan garis Resisten yang kuat.  Jika memang ini merukan 
minor trend ke 3 yang terjadi.. maka, ...
 
dalam pembahasan KDT hari sabtu lalu 
oleh Eyang Ratman, maka memang terlihat ada kemungkinan JSX akan 
mencoba mengejar Gap yang blom tertutup di kisaran 1273-1282.. Hanya saja 
secara pribadi saya agak bingung menebak waktunya.. karena minor trend 
1&2 terjadi dalam timescale 5-7 bulan utk menyentuh support... sementara 
chart yg terbentuk saat ini (dailynya) mirip2 chart zombie yang seolah2 
gampang bener di bolak balik sesukanya... dan kayanya napsuh bener mengejar 
supportnya.
 
Saya banyak mendapatkan pertanyaan gimana 
kira2 hari senin... Jujur saja saya rada bingung menjawab hal tersebut... 
karena secara pribadi saya memilih stay away dari huru hara yang sedang 
terjadi, hingga terbentuk base baru yang lbh kuat untuk nentuin arah dalam 
jangka pendeknya.
 
Namun sambil menunggu base nya terbentuk, range 
pergerakan JSX saat ini sangat luas dalam minor trendnya.. kemungkinan 
support Fibonancci spt yang pernah disebutkan oleh Eyang Ratman di 38.2% 
(kisaran 1.340 - 1.350-an) masih cukup kuat menahan kejatuhan market, Namun 
jgn lupa jg terdapat bullish rejection di level 1.500.
 
Buat yang emang nyangkut tapi gak rela cut 
loss, saran saya mendingan anda dedikasiin waktu anda utk melakukan apa aja 
selain memantau gerakan market.. karena akan ruin your days
 
Any other comments ??
 
Regards
 
Vibby
 
Disclaimer : Hanya bahan diskusi dan bersifat 
edukatif, tidak menyarankan untuk membeli atau menjual saham, resiko bagi 
yang nekad bukan urusan saya lho... dan jika ada pertanyaan lbh lanjut, 
mohon untuk melemparkan pertanyaan tersebut melalui forum milis (jgn 
Japri)  regards...
 
 
 
 




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar]

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Marjan Syah




Maaf pak, maksud saya AGM, RUPS dalam bahasa Indonesianya atau Rapat Umum Pemegang Saham. Kalau EGM dalam Indonesianya RUPSLB atau RUPS Luar Biasa.
On 5/24/06, Dodik SUDIYONO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



EGM apa yah ? 


- Original Message - 
From: Marjan Syah 

To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar]
 
Pak..
 
Ini ada riset terakhir dari Mandiri Sekuritas, mudah2an membantu. Untuk update lainnya mengenai BLTA kita tunggu aja EGMnya akhir bulan ini. 
 
BR
MJ 
On 5/23/06, Eddy Purnomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: 



Kang Eka, 
 
Biasa kang, minta pencerahan, BLTA bagaimana, sudah nge-research? Ada yang tahu saham pelayaran di Singapore terkoreksi seberapa dalam ?
 
Rumors :
 
Apa betul BLTA listing di S'pore dengan harga USD. 0.5 per share. Jika memang demikian berarti harganya equivalent plus-minus IDR. 2.900. Tapi ada juga berita listing di IDR 2.200. Listing June 2006.
 
 


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kalo besok rebound, beli apa?

Biar dah diperem jual tiga tahun lagi ya Pak Eka
daripada ngga kebeli lagi ? :)
Melihat penurunan saham tambang kemarin, karena
ketularan global market, Rio Tinto, BHP, Falconbridge turun 1 /d 4%. Tapi
ngeliat guyuran ANTM kemaren sampe 20% mah gelo namanya.
INCO turun banyak, padahal nikel agak 'tampil beda'
dengan arah harga base metal yang lain.
PTBA juga ketularan trend saham tambang global.
Secara matematis, walaupun base metal turun, seharusnya gak ngaruh karena
harga jual sudah fixed.
Pengen nembakin lagi tapi sama juga nyali ciut
(seminggu ini bastard banget ya..) , pelor udah banyak kepake..

- Original Message -
From:
EKA
SUWANDANA
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kalo besok
rebound, beli apa?

Beli ANTM yang banyak. Saya punya udah ada di berbagai harga.
"Eka Ginting - indo.com" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kalo
liat data minggu lalu, yang jatuh hari Senin & Selasa, tapi bangkit
lagi dengan mantap hari Rabunya:

14-May-06
15-May-06
17-May-06
RpNaik/Turun

1
UNSP
1,060
1,040
1,160
611.54%

2
BUMI
910
900
940
404.44%

3
SRSN
135
130
140
207.69%

4
BNLI
750
740
760
202.70%

5
TBLA
295
260
320
194.51%

6
ETWA
250
235
255
141.84%

7
DAVO
245
220
250
133.64%

8
BNGA
630
580
640
130.34%

9
BNII
205
185
205
110.81%

10
VOKS
495
450
495
110.00%

11
MTDL
80
75
80
106.67%

12
LPLI
150
145
150
103.45%

13
KAEF
165
160
165
103.13%

14
UNTR
5,900
5,450
5,850
96.23%

15
BBRI
4,400
4,025
4,350
94.74%

16
BMRI
2,125
1,850
2,060
87.71%

17
SCMA
750
650
720
80.77%

18
PTBA
3,900
3,400
3,750
80.29%

19
KIJA
155
140
150
73.81%

20
RAJA
660
630
650
69.84%

21
MYOR
1,140
970
1,070
69.13%

22
RALS
850
820
840
69.11%

23
BLTA
2,075
1,900

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY....




pak Oentoeng,

Membuat ANALISA/PREDIKSI dibursa itu SANGAT SUKAR, jika bisa
bener 60%/70% aja UDAH BAGUS. 
ORANG BODO sering bikin PREDIKSI, kalo salah THEY HAVE NOTHING 
TO LOSE. 
 
Sedangkan ORANG PINTAR, kalo bikin PREDIKSI dan KEBETULAN SALAH,
mereka MEMPERTARUHKAN REPUTASI mereka. JADI seharusnya ORANG
PINTER dimilis HARUS 'DILINDUNGI'. Anggap aja mereka BARANG
LANGKA yang harus 'DILINDUNGI' 

Jadi
- Jika yang DISERANG adalah TULISAN, ARGUMEN, PENDAPAT, ANALISA,
  PREDIKSI tanpa menyinggung/menyerang PRIBADI dan PRIVACY, INI
  masih bisa DITOLERIR..
- Jika seseorang diserang secara TIDAK SOPAN, atau KRITIK dilakukan
  secara SISTEMATIS yang mematikan KREATIVITAS seseorang untuk
  membuat ANALISA/PREDIKSI. Apalagi KRITIK dilakukan oleh 
  member yang TIDAK PERNAH kasih analisa, maka embah akan
  mengeluarkan orang itu dari milis.

Memang ini sangat SUBYEKTIF, kalo ada SARAN... please DO...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Saya juga ingin menambahkan mumpung ada kesempatan Mbah...
> Bagaimanapun saya banyak belajar dari Mbahmisalnya:
> 1. Saya pernah lihat Mbah DIKRITIK TAJAM bhs Mbah 
> sih "DIGOBLOKIN"...tapi tetap STAY COLL...itulah yg saya salut ama 
> Mbah KITA SEMUA.
> 2. Makanya saya yg masih muda ini kalau DIGOBLOKIN juga lagi 
LATIHAN 
> utk BERSABAR...
> 3. Di satu sisi memang saya punya "KEBEROENTOENGAN" banyak 
> diSLIWERI "OBROLAN BANDAR BETULAN"...terus saya saring, evaluasi 
dan 
> saya sampaikan di milis ini dengan segala cara BAGAIMANA bisa 
> membuat SEMUA PIHAK "COMFORT". namun dalam perjalanan ternyata 
tidak 
> semulus DUGAAN SAYA
> 4. Kalau saya sering dibilang PLIN PLAN, GOBLOK,terserah. 
Karena 
> kalau teman2 semuanya dengerin OBROLAN MEREKA pasti bawaannya lebih 
> SERING DIKIBULIN!!!  memang mereka sering berubah, seenaknya 
sendiri 
> kalau rekomend beli ngajak tapi kalau sudah keluar nggak ngomong2, 
> bicara tidak pernah pasti,dll. Ada tidak yang punya kenalan 
> BANDAR BETULAN? Silahkan bagi cerita kalau tidak percaya
> Tapi swear...saya tidak pernah BERNIAT mengkibulin orang lain!? 
> kalau ada yg kena kibul berarti saya juga dikibulin logikanya. 
> hehehe
> 5. Sebenarnya kalau saya "kelihatan" menyalahkan teman 
> lain...bukanlah demikian NIAT-nya. Tapi lebih memotivasiwong 
> INFOnya sudah tersampaikan...KEBETULAN melalui saya..bisa juga 
> melalui Pak. Karno atau yg lain...tapi kenapa tidak disikapi secara 
> benar? Saya sendiri masih jauh utk kemampuan MENYIKAPI suatu 
> INFORMASI secara BENARmasih sering DIGOBLOKIN ama BANDAR2 ITU.
> 5. Tapi kalau boleh saran... dalam kesempatan ini saya ingin 
> mengajak semua teman OB agar tidak SALING MENCELA,apalagi 
> membawa hal buruk sampai BERLARUT-LARUT.
> 6. Kalau ada yang PROTES ama saya kan pernah saya tawarin utk 
> japri...PASTI SAYA PERHATIKAN!
> 
> Akhir kata...semoga dengan semua KEBIJAKSANAAN, KESABARAN, KEULETAN 
> dll dari MBAH; kita bisa merasakan manfaat dari milis OBROLAN 
BANDAR 
> ini!?
> 
> Salam persahabatan juga buat semuanya...he4x
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Karno Edy"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry sebelumnya.embah juga pernah wa kritik.
> > Saya cuma mau meluruskan beberapa hal yg menurut wa bisa 
> menyesatkan.
> > Karena walaupun milis ini diperuntukan bagi mature investor, tak 
> dapat 
> > dihindari akan dibaca juga oleh para pemula
> > 
> > Tujuan saya agar pembaca tidak menyetarakan sesuatu yg 'nampaknya 
> pasti' 
> > (versi Mr X)  sbg fakta.
> > Saya ngga bermaksud mengatakan Pak Oentoeng suka usil ngecek 
> transaksi 
> > orang...dan juga hampir ga mungkin.. Tapi  "bisa dicek ke 
> brokernya ? 
> > "yg menurut ane kata2 yg tidak berarti...
> > 
> > Tulisan embah sama pak Oentoeng sebenarnya ane bilang ngga 
> nyambung, karena 
> > embah membicarakan yg beli sedangkan pak oentoeng membicarakan yg 
> jual.
> > 
> > Salam persahabatan,
> > Karno
> > 
> >
>









  
  
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EGM apa yah ? 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Marjan 
  Syah 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar]
  
  Pak..
   
  Ini ada riset terakhir dari Mandiri Sekuritas, mudah2an membantu. Untuk 
  update lainnya mengenai BLTA kita tunggu aja EGMnya akhir bulan ini. 
   
  BR
  MJ 
  On 5/23/06, Eddy 
  Purnomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote: 
  


Kang Eka, 
 
Biasa kang, minta pencerahan, BLTA bagaimana, sudah nge-research? Ada 
yang tahu saham pelayaran di Singapore terkoreksi seberapa dalam ?
 
Rumors :
 
Apa betul BLTA listing di S'pore dengan harga USD. 0.5 per share. Jika 
memang demikian berarti harganya equivalent plus-minus IDR. 2.900. Tapi ada 
juga berita listing di IDR 2.200. Listing June 2006.
 
 


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[obrolan-bandar] India on alert for suicides after stocks slide

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik ALX




Subject:: India on alert for suicides after stocks slideTo: Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 12:48 PMSubject: India on alert for suicides after stocks slide
>> BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:>> At:  5/23 12:37:54 India on alert for suicides after stocks slide>> Mon May 22, 2006 10:11 AM ET MUMBAI (Reuters) - Indian police are watching out for possible suicides
>> by>> brokers and investors after a steep market slide wiped out billions of>> dollars in share values, officials said Monday.>> Policemen were keeping a watch near lakes and canals, possible places
>> where>> people in distress could head to kill themselves. They said rescue teams>> were on alert.>> "A financial crisis can trigger suicides. We are just trying to prevent
>> them. Till now, no such cases have been reported," said R.K. Patel, a>> police official in the western city of Ahmedabad.>> India's Bombay Stock Exchange Ltd., which had a market value of $657
>> billion last week after falling 10 percent in the previous two sessions,>> slid as much as another 10 percent in early trade Monday following sales>> of>> stocks held by brokers as security on behalf of their clients.
>> "Gold has turned into brass. We are finished," said S.S. Gupta, a>> middle-aged Mumbai broker who said he had lost millions of rupees in two>> hours of trading Monday morning.
>> Ahmedabad is considered particularly vulnerable to stock market>> volatility. With over five million retail investors, the city is one of India's main
>> trading hubs where people have put in millions of dollars of their>> disposable income into the stock market.>> "I borrowed money to trade in the market. I lost it all in the past two
>> days," said 37-year-old Sanjay Joshi, a small investor. "I don't know how>> will I repay my loans.">> In the 1990s, a stock market meltdown led to several bankrupt brokers and
>> small investors committing suicide across India, some of them drowning in>> rivers or throwing themselves off highrises.>> Analysts described the market slide -- which has been as much as 
22.4>> percent from an all-time high of 12,671.11 points on May 11 -- as a>> correction and said order should return soon.>> "It seems overdone and the market should stabilize during the second half
>> of this week," said Rajat Jain, Chief Investment Officer, Principal Asset>> Management Company Pvt Ltd.>>>





  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kalo besok rebound, beli apa?

SETUJ pak Arifin. PTBA saya juga belum keluar samasekali di posisi avrg di 2300-an , udah di bawa ke atas udah untung hampir diatas 80% nggak keluar2. Sekarang untung saya yg dulu kebeli Inova malah kebeli Xenia. Greedy kali yah! Tapi lihat nickel yg terus naik. Cek di www.kitcometals.com , atau www.lme.com/nickel.asp , atau www.metalprices.com , nggak seharusnya bandar kasih ANTM semurah ini. Sekarang USD udah 9340, bagus donk utk ANTM yg labanya kegerus karena rupiah menguat sampai 8800 q12006. q2 ini ada kenaikan laba gara2 nickel naik dan rupiah lemah, q3 laba naik lagi gara2 Feni III sudah operasional. Capek saya lihat ANTM di guyurin, walaupun sempat shorting 2 kali, tapi kalo di guyrin terus , nyali jadi ciut. James Arifin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: itulah boss reportnya kalau duit terbatas tapi prospek bagus.. ANTM, PTBA, BLTA tiga sejoli money maker. Saya jodoh berat ama PTBA tapi masih kurang beruntung di ANTM ama BLTA tapi tetap yakin three of them will be my stock recommendation. On 5/23/06, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Beli ANTM yang banyak. Saya punya udah ada di berbagai harga. "Eka Ginting - indo.com" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kalo liat data minggu lalu, yang jatuh hari Senin & Selasa, tapi bangkit lagi dengan mantap hari Rabunya: 14-May-06 15-May-06 17-May-06 RpNaik/Turun1 UNSP 1,060 1,040 1,160 611.54%2 BUMI 910 900 940 404.44%3 SRSN 135 130 140 207.69%4 BNLI 750 740 760 202.70%5 TBLA 295 260 320 194.51%6 ETWA 250 235 255 141.84%7 DAVO 245 220 250 133.64%8 BNGA 630 580 640 130.34%9 BNII 205 185 205 110.81%10 VOKS 495 450 495 110.00%11 MTDL 80 75 80 106.67%
12 LPLI 150 145 150 103.45%13 KAEF 165 160 165 103.13%14 UNTR 5,900 5,450 5,850 96.23%15 BBRI 4,400 4,025 4,350 94.74%16 BMRI 2,125 1,850 2,060 87.71%17 SCMA 750
650 720 80.77%18 PTBA 3,900 3,400 3,750 80.29%19 KIJA 155 140 150 73.81%20 RAJA 660 630 650 69.84%21 MYOR 1,140 970 1,070 69.13%22 RALS 850 820 840 69.11%
23 BLTA 2,075 1,900 2,010 68.65%24 MDLN 290 255 275 64.99%25 CTRA 680 590 640 64.03%Cheers,--Eka Ginting indo.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance magazine Business finance schools
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM

Kita harus selalu ingat bahwa emas itu pengganti currency, second currency bukan komoditas. Sedangkan Nickel adalah komoditas. Emas bisa sangat volatile, turun/naik nggak akan ngomong dulu ada apa! Biasanya kalo inflasi tinggi cenderung emas naik utk hedging. Hedge Fund borong emas apabila inflasi di USA tinggi. Nickel sekarang pure supply-demand. Walaupun suku bunga di RRC dinaikan utk perlambatan ekonomi supaya kredit macet di sana berkurang. Tetep saja yg mau invest manufacture, bikin pabrik mobil terus berdatangan. Tembaga, Seng, Aluminum, yg kemarin turun ramai2 sudah mulai rebound dan normal kembali harganya. Selama yg lain turun , nickel adem ayem tuh!Gregorius Sihombing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ANTM kelihatannya mengakhiri gelombang penurunan c karena sudah tepat mencapai 61,8% retracement, jika diambil dari mid Novembar 2005 (tepatnya 17 November 2005) ketika harga emas masih $486.15 dan harga nikel masih dibawah $5.75. Sekarang harga emas sudah $660-an dan harga nikel sudah $9.60-an. Perhatikan kecenderungan harga nikel yang terus naik dan harga emas yang kelihatannya tidak pernah retrace diatas 60%. Lihat penurunan harga emas bulan November-Desember 2005, yang retrace 59,4%. Memang kalau dilihat selama bulan Maret-Mei 2006 harga emas bisa saja turun sampai $610 atau retrace 60% jika dilihat dari harga terendah $535 (10 Mar) dan tertinggi $725 (12 Mei). Tapi apakah sampai sedalam itu penurunannya?

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2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Marjan Syah

Pak..
Ini ada riset terakhir dari Mandiri Sekuritas, mudah2an membantu. Untuk update lainnya mengenai BLTA kita tunggu aja EGMnya akhir bulan ini.
BR
MJ
On 5/23/06, Eddy Purnomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Kang Eka,
Biasa kang, minta pencerahan, BLTA bagaimana, sudah nge-research? Ada yang tahu saham pelayaran di Singapore terkoreksi seberapa dalam ?
Rumors :
Apa betul BLTA listing di S'pore dengan harga USD. 0.5 per share. Jika memang demikian berarti harganya equivalent plus-minus IDR. 2.900. Tapi ada juga berita listing di IDR 2.200. Listing June 2006.

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kalo besok rebound, beli apa?






pin saya punya di blta, utk long term ok punya. 
tapi kudu sabar

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  James 
  Arifin 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kalo besok 
  rebound, beli apa?
  itulah boss reportnya kalau duit terbatas tapi prospek bagus.. 
  ANTM, PTBA, BLTA tiga sejoli money maker. Saya jodoh berat ama PTBA tapi 
  masih kurang beruntung di ANTM ama BLTA tapi tetap yakin three of them will be 
  my stock recommendation. 
  On 5/23/06, EKA 
  SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  

Beli ANTM yang banyak. Saya punya udah ada di berbagai harga.
"Eka Ginting - indo.com" < 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Kalo 
  liat data minggu lalu, yang jatuh hari Senin & Selasa, tapi bangkit 
  lagi dengan mantap hari Rabunya:
  







  
  
  14-May-06
  15-May-06
  17-May-06
   RpNaik/Turun

  1
  UNSP
  1,060
  1,040
  1,160
  611.54%

  2
  BUMI
  910
  900
  940
  404.44%

  3
  SRSN
  135
  130
  140
  207.69%

  4
  BNLI
  750
  740
  760
  202.70%

  5
  TBLA
  295
  260
  320
  194.51%

  6
  ETWA
  250
  235
  255
  141.84%

  7
  DAVO
  245
  220
  250
  133.64%

  8
  BNGA
  630
  580
  640
  130.34%

  9
  BNII
  205
  185
  205
  110.81%

  10
  VOKS
  495
  450
  495
  110.00%

  11
  MTDL
  80
  75
  80
  106.67%

  12
  LPLI
  150
  145
  150
  103.45%

  13
  KAEF
  165
  160
  165
  103.13%

  14
  UNTR
  5,900
  5,450
  5,850
  96.23%

  15
  BBRI
  4,400
  4,025
  4,350
  94.74%

  16
  BMRI
  2,125
  1,850
  2,060
  87.71%

  17
  SCMA
  750
  650
  720
  80.77%

  18
  PTBA
  3,900
  3,400
  3,750
  80.29%

  19
  KIJA
  155
  140
  150
  73.81%

  20
  RAJA
  660
  630
  650
  69.84%

  21
  MYOR
  1,140
  970
  1,070
  69.13%

  22
  RALS
  850
  820
  840
  69.11%

  23
  BLTA
  2,075
  1,900
  2,010
  68.65%

  24
  MDLN
  290
  255
  275
  64.99%

  25
  CTRA
  680
  590
  640
  64.03%Cheers,--Eka 
  Ginting  indo.com
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itulah boss reportnya kalau duit terbatas tapi prospek bagus.. ANTM, PTBA, BLTA tiga sejoli money maker. Saya jodoh berat ama PTBA tapi masih kurang beruntung di ANTM ama BLTA tapi tetap yakin three of them will be my stock recommendation.

On 5/23/06, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Beli ANTM yang banyak. Saya punya udah ada di berbagai harga.
"Eka Ginting - indo.com" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Kalo liat data minggu lalu, yang jatuh hari Senin & Selasa, tapi bangkit lagi dengan mantap hari Rabunya:










14-May-06
15-May-06
17-May-06
 RpNaik/Turun

1
UNSP
1,060
1,040
1,160
611.54%

2
BUMI
910
900
940
404.44%

3
SRSN
135
130
140
207.69%

4
BNLI
750
740
760
202.70%

5
TBLA
295
260
320
194.51%

6
ETWA
250
235
255
141.84%

7
DAVO
245
220
250
133.64%

8
BNGA
630
580
640
130.34%

9
BNII
205
185
205
110.81%

10
VOKS
495
450
495
110.00%

11
MTDL
80
75
80
106.67%

12
LPLI
150
145
150
103.45%

13
KAEF
165
160
165
103.13%

14
UNTR
5,900
5,450
5,850
96.23%

15
BBRI
4,400
4,025
4,350
94.74%

16
BMRI
2,125
1,850
2,060
87.71%

17
SCMA
750
650
720
80.77%

18
PTBA
3,900
3,400
3,750
80.29%

19
KIJA
155
140
150
73.81%

20
RAJA
660
630
650
69.84%

21
MYOR
1,140
970
1,070
69.13%

22
RALS
850
820
840
69.11%

23
BLTA
2,075
1,900
2,010
68.65%

24
MDLN
290
255
275
64.99%

25
CTRA
680
590
640
64.03%Cheers,--Eka Ginting  indo.com

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY....

Saya juga ingin menambahkan mumpung ada kesempatan Mbah...
Bagaimanapun saya banyak belajar dari Mbahmisalnya:
1. Saya pernah lihat Mbah DIKRITIK TAJAM bhs Mbah 
sih "DIGOBLOKIN"...tapi tetap STAY COLL...itulah yg saya salut ama 
Mbah KITA SEMUA.
2. Makanya saya yg masih muda ini kalau DIGOBLOKIN juga lagi LATIHAN 
utk BERSABAR...
3. Di satu sisi memang saya punya "KEBEROENTOENGAN" banyak 
diSLIWERI "OBROLAN BANDAR BETULAN"...terus saya saring, evaluasi dan 
saya sampaikan di milis ini dengan segala cara BAGAIMANA bisa 
membuat SEMUA PIHAK "COMFORT". namun dalam perjalanan ternyata tidak 
semulus DUGAAN SAYA
4. Kalau saya sering dibilang PLIN PLAN, GOBLOK,terserah. Karena 
kalau teman2 semuanya dengerin OBROLAN MEREKA pasti bawaannya lebih 
SERING DIKIBULIN!!!  memang mereka sering berubah, seenaknya sendiri 
kalau rekomend beli ngajak tapi kalau sudah keluar nggak ngomong2, 
bicara tidak pernah pasti,dll. Ada tidak yang punya kenalan 
BANDAR BETULAN? Silahkan bagi cerita kalau tidak percaya
Tapi swear...saya tidak pernah BERNIAT mengkibulin orang lain!? 
kalau ada yg kena kibul berarti saya juga dikibulin logikanya. 
hehehe
5. Sebenarnya kalau saya "kelihatan" menyalahkan teman 
lain...bukanlah demikian NIAT-nya. Tapi lebih memotivasiwong 
INFOnya sudah tersampaikan...KEBETULAN melalui saya..bisa juga 
melalui Pak. Karno atau yg lain...tapi kenapa tidak disikapi secara 
benar? Saya sendiri masih jauh utk kemampuan MENYIKAPI suatu 
INFORMASI secara BENARmasih sering DIGOBLOKIN ama BANDAR2 ITU.
5. Tapi kalau boleh saran... dalam kesempatan ini saya ingin 
mengajak semua teman OB agar tidak SALING MENCELA,apalagi 
membawa hal buruk sampai BERLARUT-LARUT.
6. Kalau ada yang PROTES ama saya kan pernah saya tawarin utk 
japri...PASTI SAYA PERHATIKAN!

Akhir kata...semoga dengan semua KEBIJAKSANAAN, KESABARAN, KEULETAN 
dll dari MBAH; kita bisa merasakan manfaat dari milis OBROLAN BANDAR 
ini!?

Salam persahabatan juga buat semuanya...he4x

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Karno Edy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Sorry sebelumnya.embah juga pernah wa kritik.
> Saya cuma mau meluruskan beberapa hal yg menurut wa bisa 
menyesatkan.
> Karena walaupun milis ini diperuntukan bagi mature investor, tak 
dapat 
> dihindari akan dibaca juga oleh para pemula
> 
> Tujuan saya agar pembaca tidak menyetarakan sesuatu yg 'nampaknya 
pasti' 
> (versi Mr X)  sbg fakta.
> Saya ngga bermaksud mengatakan Pak Oentoeng suka usil ngecek 
transaksi 
> orang...dan juga hampir ga mungkin.. Tapi  "bisa dicek ke 
brokernya ? 
> "yg menurut ane kata2 yg tidak berarti...
> 
> Tulisan embah sama pak Oentoeng sebenarnya ane bilang ngga 
nyambung, karena 
> embah membicarakan yg beli sedangkan pak oentoeng membicarakan yg 
jual.
> 
> Salam persahabatan,
> Karno
> 
> 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SURAT TERBUKA UTK PT.RTI INFOKOM!!!




Nggak mungkin EPS tahun lalu di atas 400 begitu juga EPS tahun 2004!tuangede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  ada kemungkinan yang dipake harga sekarang banding earning taon lalu.  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Saya dapet banyak email mengatakan bahwa PER ANTM terlalu tinggi. Padahal hitungan saya utk tgl 22 mei sampai saat ini sudah di bawah 10x.>   Saya lihat RTI salah menampilkan PER ANTM (diatas 16x), seharusnya dihitung anualised. Perhitungan kwartal 1 juga salah.Coba tolong di cek lagi. Di Stockwatch dan IMQ PER ANTM utk tgl 22 Mei ada di kisaran 9-10x. Kalo RTI salah investor ritel akan sungkan membeli sahamnya padahal RTI dipakai oleh hampir 80% sekuritas, di galerinya.>  SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course   Business to
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM

kalau lihat grafiknya Bung Sihombing maka wave sekarang bisa dikategorikan sedang membentuk subwave 2 minor dari Wave 3 Major. Lihat saja counting 1-2-3-4-5 awal membuat Wave 1 Major kemudian turun buat wave 2 major. Wave 3 major belum kelihatan karena counting 1-5 hingga ke 6100 panjangnya belum memenuhi untuk dihitung sebagai wave major 3 tapi harusnya dicount wave 1 dari wave 3 so kalau counting ini benar ... ANTM siap-siap untuk membuat subwave 3 dalam wave 3, target biasanya minimal
1.618 x subwave 1.
Regards,
On 5/24/06, Gregorius Sihombing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

ANTM kelihatannya mengakhiri gelombang penurunan c karena sudah tepat mencapai 61,8% retracement, jika diambil dari mid Novembar 2005 (tepatnya 17 November 2005) ketika harga emas masih $486.15 dan harga nikel masih dibawah $5.75. Sekarang harga emas sudah $660-an dan harga nikel sudah $9.60-an.

Perhatikan kecenderungan harga nikel yang terus naik dan harga emas yang kelihatannya tidak pernah retrace diatas 60%. Lihat penurunan harga emas bulan November-Desember 2005, yang retrace 59,4%. Memang kalau dilihat selama bulan Maret-Mei 2006 harga emas bisa saja turun sampai $610 atau retrace 60% jika dilihat dari harga terendah $535 (10 Mar) dan tertinggi $725 (12 Mei). Tapi apakah sampai sedalam itu penurunannya?

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[obrolan-bandar] Help: Kode emas dan minyak di yahoo finance ??????

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Maximillian Junaidi




bisa minta tolong? ada yang tahu kode emas dan minyak
di yahoo finance tuh apaaan yah? ada yang punya data
harga emas yang bisa di convert ke metastock 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY....




Sorry sebelumnya.embah juga pernah wa kritik.
Saya cuma mau meluruskan beberapa hal yg menurut wa bisa menyesatkan.
Karena walaupun milis ini diperuntukan bagi mature investor, tak dapat 
dihindari akan dibaca juga oleh para pemula

Tujuan saya agar pembaca tidak menyetarakan sesuatu yg 'nampaknya pasti' 
(versi Mr X)  sbg fakta.
Saya ngga bermaksud mengatakan Pak Oentoeng suka usil ngecek transaksi 
orang...dan juga hampir ga mungkin.. Tapi  "bisa dicek ke brokernya ? 
"yg menurut ane kata2 yg tidak berarti...

Tulisan embah sama pak Oentoeng sebenarnya ane bilang ngga nyambung, karena 
embah membicarakan yg beli sedangkan pak oentoeng membicarakan yg jual.

Salam persahabatan,
Karno


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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:58 AM
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BUY


> Saya tidak sedang ngecek transaksi orang Pak Karno
> Tapi saya cuman mau belajar dari Mbah kalau TSPC kemarin yg jualan
> bukan pekerjaan MM...ternyata yg beli MM-nya.
> Kalau ada "Slip tulisan" sampai ada yg kebetulan "Mengaku" saya
> mohon maaf; karena saya tidak ada urusannya dengan beliau!?
> Apalagi berkaitan dengan LG...toh di IQ+, IMQ, dll bisa kelihatan
> kalau broker ini adalah "SARANG TSPC"...
> Bukti saya salah sasaran wong nyebut costnya salah jauh; masak 6500
> dibilang 6800. Sampai Anaknya nggak terima???
> Wong mungkin saya tidak sedang nebak dia...la kok dia sendiri yg
> ngaku?
> Sekali lagi kalau saya salah saya mohon maaf sebesarnya...makanya
> saya dari dulu tidak pernah menyebutkan spesifik broker tertentu
> untuk menghindari POLEMIK model begini
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "karnoesb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Apa urusannya  ngecek transaksi orang :?, dan lagi secara etika
>> broker mana yg mau buka privacy investornya. Kalo broker ane buka-
>> bukaan gitu pasti ane dah cabut ke broker laen.
>> menurut ane gak perlu dilempar ke forum..
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_q" 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Maaf Mbah saya berani pastikan kalau yang JUALAN itu semua
>> > (LG) "teman" saya lagi
>> bisa dicek ke brokernya.
>> >
>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant 
>> > consultant@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
>> > >
>> > > Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA
>> > > YG MAEN 
>> > >
>> > > Contoh:
>> > >
>> > > TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu
>> > > dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.
>> > > Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?)
>> > >
>> > > Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
>> > >
>> > > JAWABAN:
>> > > - Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ 
>> > >
>> > > Note:
>> > > - Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 15:59:56 38213996 6,500  1 II D D LG
>> > > 15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG
>> > > 15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG
>> > > 15:58:40 38213535 6,100  6 ML F D LG
>> > >
>> > > 15:58:40 38213534 6,100  1 IP D D LG
>> > > 15:58:40 38213533 6,100  3 ML F D LG
>> > > 15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG
>> > > 15:58:04 38213351 6,100  3 YJ D D LG
>> > > 15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG
>> > > 15:57:40 38213205 6,100  3 ML F D LG
>> > > 15:57:20 38213088 6,100 17 ML F D LG
>> > > 15:57:20 38213087 6,100  3 ML F D LG
>> > > 15:55:48 38212762 6,100 12 ML F D LG
>> > > 15:55:48 38212761 6,100  2 IP D D LG
>> > > 15:55:48 38212760 6,100  5 ML F D LG
>> > > 15:55:48 38212759 6,100  2 OK D D LG
>> > > 15:55:48 38212758 6,100  9 YJ D D LG
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY?




Embah liat SUBWAVE pagi ini di:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EJKSE&t=1d&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "D & L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Embah, kalo gak keberatan, tolong cantumkan lagi dong grafik 
elliotwave yg
> sudah diupdate (mungkin ntar sore ya, nunggu closing).
> tks sblmnya ya.
>  
> rgds, 
> Liz
>  
>  
>  
> ---Original Message---
>  
> From: jsx_consultant
> Date: 05/23/06 11:44:25
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE 
trader BUY?
>  
> Ini Elliot wave untuk SUBWAVE yang terjadi PAGI INI...
> Wave 5 mulai dari -5
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
> consultant@> wrote:
> >
> > 11:40
> > 
> > Wave 5 (Today's SUBWAVE) mulai start... 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ALX  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Tergantung ngeliatnya darimana aja lah
> > >  inget:
> > > positif positif = positif
> > > positif negatif = negatif
> > > negatif positif = negatif
> > > negatif negatif = ya positif lagi
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 5/23/06, jsx_consultant  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Pak Ricahrd,
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY?

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik D & L









Embah, kalo gak keberatan, tolong cantumkan lagi dong grafik elliotwave yg sudah diupdate (mungkin ntar sore ya, nunggu closing).
tks sblmnya ya.
 
rgds, 
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From: jsx_consultant
Date: 05/23/06 11:44:25
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY?
 Ini Elliot wave untuk SUBWAVE yang terjadi PAGI INI...Wave 5 mulai dari -5--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> 11:40> > Wave 5 (Today's SUBWAVE) mulai start... > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ALX  > wrote:> >> > Tergantung ngeliatnya darimana aja lah> >  inget:> > positif positif = positif> > positif negatif = negatif> > negatif positif = negatif> > negatif negatif = ya positif lagi> > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/23/06, jsx_consultant  wrote:> > >> > > Pak Ricahrd,> > >> >>
 












  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] ANTM

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Gregorius Sihombing






ANTM kelihatannya mengakhiri gelombang penurunan c karena sudah tepat 
mencapai 61,8% retracement, jika diambil dari mid Novembar 2005 (tepatnya 17 
November 2005) ketika harga emas masih $486.15 dan harga nikel masih 
dibawah $5.75. Sekarang harga emas sudah $660-an dan harga nikel sudah 
$9.60-an.
Perhatikan kecenderungan harga nikel yang terus naik dan harga emas yang 
kelihatannya tidak pernah retrace diatas 60%. Lihat penurunan harga emas 
bulan November-Desember 2005, yang retrace 59,4%. Memang kalau dilihat selama 
bulan Maret-Mei 2006 harga emas bisa saja turun sampai $610 atau retrace 60% 
jika dilihat dari harga terendah $535 (10 Mar) dan tertinggi $725 (12 Mei). 
Tapi apakah sampai sedalam itu penurunannya?




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY?




Ini Elliot wave untuk SUBWAVE yang terjadi PAGI INI...
Wave 5 mulai dari -5

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 11:40
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> Wave 5 (Today's SUBWAVE) mulai start... 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ALX  
> wrote:
> >
> > Tergantung ngeliatnya darimana aja lah
> >  inget:
> > positif positif = positif
> > positif negatif = negatif
> > negatif positif = negatif
> > negatif negatif = ya positif lagi
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 5/23/06, jsx_consultant  wrote:
> > >
> > > Pak Ricahrd,
> > >
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY?




11:40

Wave 5 (Today's SUBWAVE) mulai start... 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ALX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> Tergantung ngeliatnya darimana aja lah
>  inget:
> positif positif = positif
> positif negatif = negatif
> negatif positif = negatif
> negatif negatif = ya positif lagi
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY?

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik ALX




Tergantung ngeliatnya darimana aja lah
 inget:
positif positif = positif
positif negatif = negatif
negatif positif = negatif
negatif negatif = ya positif lagi
 
 
 
On 5/23/06, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Pak Ricahrd,





  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY?






bukan masalah serakah nggak serakah .. tapi karena bandar keluar banyak .. 

 
makanya biar tau bandar keluar banyak cari info 
bandar.
 
yang punya info itu mbah yang tau
 
ya nggak mbah
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  James 
  Arifin 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG 
  rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY?
  Khan yang serakah mesti dikasih pelajaran biar nggak serakah 
  dan buat yang invest for quite long term mestinya nggak ada masalah malah 
  sekarang kesempatan masuk ke pasar.
  On 5/23/06, Richard 
  Ropongi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote: 
  

Masa IHSG rebound kalo ga ada lg yg transaksi jual ato beli di BEJ 
?? Mendingan BEJ dibubarin aja, ganti TOGEL..YANG PASTI Kalo IHSG begini 
terus, pasti masyarakat akan makin ANTI DENGAN SAHAM..James 
Arifin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis: 
you 
  are not part of the targetted them so stay calm aje ... yang disiksa khan 
  pemain besar
  On 5/22/06, cherax6969 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  > wrote: 
  

kalau kita cuma pegang blta 2 lot dan gak mau cutloss, apa 
dari'bandarmologi' tetep bela-bela'in 'yiksa'?--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> 
>Salah boss,> >Indeks Rebound---KALAU UDAH GAK ADA YANG 
JUAL> >Betu?>> Dari segi ilmu Ekonomi 
yaitu Hukum Supply and Demandnya Adam Smith, > anda 
BETUL...>> Kalo dari segi Bandarmologi, kalo Trader yang 
MASIH HOLD belum> mau JUALAN, terpaksa PENYIKSAAN dilanjutkan 
ampe> anda MENYERAH.>>> -Original 
Message- > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> [mailto: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx-consultant> 
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:15 PM> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> Subject: 
[obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader> 
BUY>> Kapan IHSG rebound ?.>> Dari MODEL 
BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA > YG MAEN 
>> Contoh:>> TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu 
seharian turun ke 6100, lalu> dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 
6100 ke harga opening di 6500.> Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan 
LG (the MM ?) >> Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound 
?.>> JAWABAN:> - Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader 
yang berani NYENTUH BEJ >> Note:> - Terlampir 
TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing: >>> 
15:59:56 38213996 6,500 1 II D D LG> 15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 
II D D LG> 15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG> 15:58:40 
38213535 6,100 6 ML F D LG>> 15:58:40 38213534 6,100 1 IP 
D D LG > 15:58:40 38213533 6,100 3 ML F D LG> 15:58:04 
38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG> 15:58:04 38213351 6,100 3 YJ D D 
LG> 15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG> 15:57:40 
38213205 6,100 3 ML F D LG > 15:57:20 38213088 6,100 17 ML F D 
LG> 15:57:20 38213087 6,100 3 ML F D LG> 15:55:48 38212762 
6,100 12 ML F D LG> 15:55:48 38212761 6,100 2 IP D D LG> 
15:55:48 38212760 6,100 5 ML F D LG > 15:55:48 38212759 6,100 2 
OK D D LG> 15:55:48 38212758 6,100 9 YJ D D 
LG 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: SURAT TERBUKA UTK PT.RTI INFOKOM!!!

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik tuangede




ada kemungkinan yang dipake harga sekarang banding earning taon lalu.  

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> Saya dapet banyak email mengatakan bahwa PER ANTM terlalu tinggi. 
Padahal hitungan saya utk tgl 22 mei sampai saat ini sudah di bawah 
10x.
>   Saya lihat RTI salah menampilkan PER ANTM (diatas 16x), seharusnya 
dihitung anualised. Perhitungan kwartal 1 juga salah.Coba tolong di 
cek lagi. Di Stockwatch dan IMQ PER ANTM utk tgl 22 Mei ada di kisaran 
9-10x. Kalo RTI salah investor ritel akan sungkan membeli sahamnya 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY?




TLKM di NYSE kemaren dibikin -12% saat PEMBUKAAN. Embah pikir
ini adalah TAKTIK si BOZZ agar 
- Trader engga BERANI BUY pagi ini dan
- Trader CUT LOSS karena TAKUT IHSG ambrol terseret TLKM.

Kenyataannya hari ini LAYAR sudah HIJAU SEBAGIAN meskipun
IHSG -17 saat INI...

Apakah ini BULL SHIT ?. Embah DON'T GIVE THE DAMN about it...
Milis OB jalan TERUS...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pak Ricahrd,
> 
> Milis OB ini di CTRATE ama embah beberapa tahun yang lalu untuk
> membawa masalah PERBANDARAN kepermukaan. Sampai saat ini media
> TERKEMUKA belum mau membawa masalah ini kedalam media. THEY
> DO NOT WANT TO DO+WRITE THE DIRTY WORK. 
> 
> Didalam PERJALANANnya embah DIGOBLOK-GOBLOKIN tapi embah
> engga pernah MENYERAH ampe detik ini...
> 
> Silahkan anda mengKRITIK tulisan embah agar embah bisa menyampaikan
> masalah PERBANDARAN ini dalam PROPORSInya
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Richard Ropongi 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Masa IHSG rebound kalo ga ada lg yg transaksi jual ato beli di 
> BEJ ?? Mendingan BEJ dibubarin aja, ganti TOGEL..YANG PASTI Kalo 
IHSG 
> begini terus, pasti masyarakat akan makin ANTI DENGAN SAHAM..
> > 
> > James Arifin  menulis:  you are not part of the 
> targetted them so stay calm aje ... yang disiksa khan pemain besar
> > 
> >   On 5/22/06, cherax6969  wrote:   kalau kita 
> cuma pegang blta 2 lot dan gak mau cutloss, apa dari
> > 'bandarmologi' tetep bela-bela'in 'yiksa'?
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant
> >   
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > >Salah boss,
> > > >Indeks Rebound---KALAU UDAH GAK ADA YANG JUAL
> > > >Betu?
> > >
> > > Dari segi ilmu Ekonomi yaitu Hukum Supply and Demandnya Adam 
> Smith, 
> > > anda BETUL...
> > >
> > > Kalo dari segi Bandarmologi, kalo Trader yang MASIH HOLD belum
> > > mau JUALAN, terpaksa PENYIKSAAN dilanjutkan ampe
> > > anda MENYERAH.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message- 
> > > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx-
> consultant
> > > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:15 PM
> > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE 
trader
> > > BUY
> > >
> > > Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
> > >
> > > Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA 
> > > YG MAEN 
> > >
> > > Contoh:
> > >
> > > TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu
> > > dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.
> > > Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?) 
> > >
> > > Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
> > >
> > > JAWABAN:
> > > - Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ 
> > >
> > > Note:
> > > - Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing: 
> > >
> > >
> > > 15:59:56 38213996 6,500 1 II D D LG
> > > 15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG
> > > 15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG
> > > 15:58:40 38213535 6,100 6 ML F D LG
> > >
> > > 15:58:40 38213534 6,100 1 IP D D LG 
> > > 15:58:40 38213533 6,100 3 ML F D LG
> > > 15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> > > 15:58:04 38213351 6,100 3 YJ D D LG
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kalo besok rebound, beli apa?




Beli ANTM yang banyak. Saya punya udah ada di berbagai harga."Eka Ginting - indo.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Kalo liat data minggu lalu, yang jatuh hari Senin & Selasa, tapi bangkit lagi dengan mantap hari Rabunya:  14-May-06  15-May-06  17-May-06   RpNaik/Turun1  UNSP  1,060  1,040  1,160  611.54%2  BUMI  910  900  940  404.44%3  SRSN  135  130  140  207.69%4  BNLI  750  740  760  202.70%5  TBLA  295  260  320  194.51%6  ETWA  250  235  255  141.84%7  DAVO  245  220  250  133.64%8  BNGA  630  580  640  130.34%9  BNII  205  185  205  110.81%10  VOKS  495  450  495  110.00%11  MTDL  80  75  80  106.67%12  LPLI  150  145  150  103.45%13  KAEF  165  160  165  103.13%14  UNTR  5,900  5,450  5,850  96.23%15  BBRI  4,400  4,025  4,350  94.74%16  BMRI  2,125  1,850  2,060  87.71%17  SCMA  750  650  720  80.77%18  PTBA  3,900  3,400  3,750  80.29%19  KIJA  155  140  150  73.81%20  RAJA  660  630  650  69.84%21  MYOR  1,140  970  1,070  69.13%22  RALS  850  820  840  69.11%23  BLTA  2,075  1,900  2,010  68.65%24  MDLN  290  255  275  64.99%25  CTRA  680  590  640  64.03%Cheers,--Eka Ginting  indo.com




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY?




Pak Ricahrd,

Milis OB ini di CTRATE ama embah beberapa tahun yang lalu untuk
membawa masalah PERBANDARAN kepermukaan. Sampai saat ini media
TERKEMUKA belum mau membawa masalah ini kedalam media. THEY
DO NOT WANT TO DO+WRITE THE DIRTY WORK. 

Didalam PERJALANANnya embah DIGOBLOK-GOBLOKIN tapi embah
engga pernah MENYERAH ampe detik ini...

Silahkan anda mengKRITIK tulisan embah agar embah bisa menyampaikan
masalah PERBANDARAN ini dalam PROPORSInya


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Richard Ropongi 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Masa IHSG rebound kalo ga ada lg yg transaksi jual ato beli di 
BEJ ?? Mendingan BEJ dibubarin aja, ganti TOGEL..YANG PASTI Kalo IHSG 
begini terus, pasti masyarakat akan makin ANTI DENGAN SAHAM..
> 
> James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:  you are not part of the 
targetted them so stay calm aje ... yang disiksa khan pemain besar
> 
>   On 5/22/06, cherax6969 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   kalau kita 
cuma pegang blta 2 lot dan gak mau cutloss, apa dari
> 'bandarmologi' tetep bela-bela'in 'yiksa'?
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant
>   
>  wrote:
> >
> > >Salah boss,
> > >Indeks Rebound---KALAU UDAH GAK ADA YANG JUAL
> > >Betu?
> >
> > Dari segi ilmu Ekonomi yaitu Hukum Supply and Demandnya Adam 
Smith, 
> > anda BETUL...
> >
> > Kalo dari segi Bandarmologi, kalo Trader yang MASIH HOLD belum
> > mau JUALAN, terpaksa PENYIKSAAN dilanjutkan ampe
> > anda MENYERAH.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx-
consultant
> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:15 PM
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader
> > BUY
> >
> > Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
> >
> > Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA 
> > YG MAEN 
> >
> > Contoh:
> >
> > TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu
> > dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.
> > Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?) 
> >
> > Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
> >
> > JAWABAN:
> > - Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ 
> >
> > Note:
> > - Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing: 
> >
> >
> > 15:59:56 38213996 6,500 1 II D D LG
> > 15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG
> > 15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG
> > 15:58:40 38213535 6,100 6 ML F D LG
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Emas Drop




Tapi balik lagi tuh, oil juga udah 70 USD/bbl lagi tuh! Inflasi sudah nggak mungkin di hindari!!!edwin c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Pagi2 Rupiah udah ngedrop 60poin...On 5/22/06, Dodik S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> harga emas drop ke 637 dari 700, perkiraan dollar bakal menguat inflasi> turun ..>> BESOK REBOUND !!!>>> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] SURAT TERBUKA UTK PT.RTI INFOKOM!!!




Saya dapet banyak email mengatakan bahwa PER ANTM terlalu tinggi. Padahal hitungan saya utk tgl 22 mei sampai saat ini sudah di bawah 10x.  Saya lihat RTI salah menampilkan PER ANTM (diatas 16x), seharusnya dihitung anualised. Perhitungan kwartal 1 juga salah.Coba tolong di cek lagi. Di Stockwatch dan IMQ PER ANTM utk tgl 22 Mei ada di kisaran 9-10x. Kalo RTI salah investor ritel akan sungkan membeli sahamnya padahal RTI dipakai oleh hampir 80% sekuritas, di galerinya.




  
  
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM : 24th of a 100 JSX INDONESIA EQUITY

Masalahnya sebenernya di BI dan pemerintah kita dari jaman merdeka nggak pernah mau berkorban masalah fiskal , minim insentif. Di Cina kalo kita mau invest segalanya di subsidi, malah PPH di sana bisa di tangguhkan pembayarannya sampai 8 tahun. Kita hidup dgn pajak berganda. BEJ juga nggak bisa jadi cerminan ekonomi kita soalnya yg listing cuma 300 emiten. Seharusnya kita punya 1000-an emiten di bej, jadi komposisi industrinya juga cerminan sektor riil. Orang malah malas masuk ke BEJ soalnya malah biaya nya membengkak. Kalo di luar negri nggak ada pajak devidend, jadi yg punya pabrik lebih suka listing di bursa karena bayar pajak lebih kecil. Dan PPH perusahaan tbk juga harus di kurangi. Di luar negri yg ada justru 'capital gain tax' apabila keuntungan di atas jumlah tertentu (di Australia di atas AU$250ribu).Eddy Purnomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Kuncinya memang di sektor riil. Tapi selama KPK nya, masih terlalu sangar seperti ini, believe me, sektor riil tidak akan kemana-mana. Karena Sektor riil Garis Startnya ada di INFRASTRUCTURE ironisnya, disinilah tempat yang paling rawan sehingga KPK betul2 pasang rambu2 & alarm. Jadi sekarang Infrastructure tidak berani bergerak-gerak, takut kalau2 alarmnya kesenggol terus bunyi. "DILEMA". A3K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kedua hal itu yang kita gak punya, BI tidak mampu meredam masuk dan keluar nya hot money, yang bikin kurs anjlok tidak keruan. Bukannya gak ada peraturannya, tapi menurut saya BI memang tidak taktis menjaga THE INDONESIAN FINACIAL BORDER Kalo suku bunga agak beda, karena memang selalu pengaruh dari luar dan ini kan utk menyetir inflasi (atau sudah kebalikannya, di setir oleh inflasi ??) Yang jelas selama sector real tidak bergerak, tidak ada
produksi yang berarti di dalam negeri, Kita bakal teru kelojotan kayak ginian . Susah2 kumpulin devisa asing, cuman utk dibelanjakan lagi utk barang2 import Padahal rakyat didalam negeri menderita kehilangan pekerjaan ini yang membuat SBY Kalla tidak dipercaya oleh orang2 Ah jadi kepanjangan ngomongnya A3K From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alfanendyaSent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:40 PMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM : 24th of a 100 JSX INDONESIA EQUITY Tahun
lalu juga ceritanya sama. Tapi kenyataannya pertumbuhan ekonomiChina masih berlanjut meroket. Ngapain slow down kalau kurs dan sukubunga under control. Lagipula China butuh otot besar untuk jadi negarasuper power. Harus banyak makan yg bergizi hehe.--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy Halim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>> Pak,bila baca dan dengar di CNBCAsia, koran koran di Tiongkok,pemerintahnya> berusaha melambatkan pertumbuhan jadi mestinya kebutuhan nikkel akanturun.> Suku bunga dinaikkan, deregulasi pasar sahamnya. Jadi kalau managed-slow> down ini berlaku lama, akan ada penurunan kebutuhan nikel.> Spt pasar tembaga (copper) baru baru ini drop dalam 1 hari sebesar 4% di> bursa copper Shanghai.> > Ini pandangan secara makro efeknya sooner or later akan terasamenurut saya,> CMIIW..> th> > On 5/22/06, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > Bagus risetnya in line hitungannya! *Akan tetapi harga asumsi nickel> > 15500USD/MT terlalu konservatif , karena sekarang harga nickelsudah wara> > wiri di atas 2USD/MT. *Cek di www.lme.com/nickel.asp . Sepertinya> > nggak mungkin turun di bawah 19ribu USD/MT soalnya harga pasar nickel> > ditentukan demand China dan mainly supply Rio Tinto dan BHP.Tambang di> > Australia dan Canada costnya sudah bengkak sampai diatas
5 USD/lb,nggak> > akan dilepas di harga murah kalo margin tergerus di jaman resesi ini.> > So rekomendasi Strong BUY mumpung kemurahan.> >> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ISENG ISENG KALA BEARISH

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik yudhi akhdiyanie

Guys, ada yang tahu ngga berapa dana yang dikeluarkan eyang Soeharto berobat di RS Pertamina situ? apa gratis?nanya iseng... yah namanya isi waktu saat bearish :)yudhiOn 5/23/06, 
A3K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Guys,

Aku binun nih …. Menyaksikan
tayangan TV mengenai kasus BB Tri – Halimah – Mayangsari,

Berapa banyak energy (capital) dikeluarkan
oleh pers, TV, polisi, terus koran2 utk urusan sepele perkawinan pribadi kayak
gitu ?? 

Berapa banyak energy dikeluarkan utk
mob/demob massa
utk demonstarsi pro / kontra UU Anti pornografi ? 

Pro yang anti atau anti yang pro ?? 
Disini lebih gila lagi, terlibat DPR, ORMAS, pemerintah dsb.

Sementara utk pembelian kembali
saham SMGR dari cemex cuman diputuskan oleh beberapa orang saja ? 

BEJ itu sudah ribut kalo
ada putaran omzet lebih dari Rp 1 trilyun,

Berapa sih putaran uang di glodok, pasar
kenari, mangga2 daerah sekitar situ ?

Pasti lebih kan ? 

Terus maunya apa ? 

Gak tahu, tapi saya cuman
merasa bahwa banyak alokasi dana itu dikeluarkan pada hal yang semestinya gitu
lho

Sedangkan yang butuh dana segar &
employment kagak ada yang mau kucurin duwit.

Mending juga dana itu dibeliin BC kan inex bisa joss lagi,

Tapi siapa peduli, dgn omzet sekitar 2 -3
trilyun yang menikmati Cuma beberapa ribu pemain saham ? 

Mending kalo gain nya dipake buat makan2,
kagak la yauw, malah di pake beli lagi beli lagi … katanya investasi

Hi hi hi …….. kalo udah jeblok
gini …. Investasi ??? 

Wah unek unek …… A3K

From:
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of alfanendya
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:40
PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM
: 24th of a 100 JSX INDONESIA
EQUITY

Tahun lalu juga
ceritanya sama. Tapi kenyataannya pertumbuhan ekonomi
China
masih berlanjut meroket. Ngapain slow down kalau kurs dan suku
bunga under control. Lagipula China
butuh otot besar untuk jadi negara
super power. Harus banyak makan yg bergizi hehe.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy Halim"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Pak,bila baca dan dengar di CNBCAsia, koran koran di Tiongkok,
pemerintahnya
> berusaha melambatkan pertumbuhan jadi mestinya kebutuhan nikkel akan
turun.
> Suku bunga dinaikkan, deregulasi pasar sahamnya. Jadi kalau managed-slow
> down ini berlaku lama, akan ada penurunan kebutuhan nikel.
> Spt pasar tembaga (copper) baru baru ini drop dalam 1
hari sebesar 4% di
> bursa copper Shanghai.
> 
> Ini pandangan secara makro efeknya sooner or later akan terasa
menurut saya,
> CMIIW..
> th
> 
> On 5/22/06, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Bagus risetnya in line hitungannya! *Akan tetapi harga asumsi nickel
> > 15500USD/MT terlalu konservatif , karena sekarang harga nickel
sudah wara
> > wiri di atas 2USD/MT. *Cek di www.lme.com/nickel.asp . Sepertinya
> > nggak mungkin turun di bawah 19ribu USD/MT soalnya harga pasar nickel
> > ditentukan demand China
dan mainly supply Rio Tinto dan BHP.
Tambang di
> > Australia dan Canada costnya
sudah bengkak sampai diatas 5 USD/lb,
nggak
> > akan dilepas di harga murah kalo margin tergerus di jaman resesi ini.
> > So rekomendasi Strong BUY mumpung kemurahan.
> >
>

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY?




Khan yang serakah mesti dikasih pelajaran biar nggak serakah dan buat yang invest for quite long term mestinya nggak ada masalah malah sekarang kesempatan masuk ke pasar.
On 5/23/06, Richard Ropongi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Masa IHSG rebound kalo ga ada lg yg transaksi jual ato beli di BEJ ?? Mendingan BEJ dibubarin aja, ganti TOGEL..YANG PASTI Kalo IHSG begini terus, pasti masyarakat akan makin ANTI DENGAN SAHAM..James Arifin <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis: 
you are not part of the targetted them so stay calm aje ... yang disiksa khan pemain besar
On 5/22/06, cherax6969 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: 


kalau kita cuma pegang blta 2 lot dan gak mau cutloss, apa dari'bandarmologi' tetep bela-bela'in 'yiksa'?--- In 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> >Salah boss,> >Indeks Rebound---KALAU UDAH GAK ADA YANG JUAL> >Betu?>> Dari segi ilmu Ekonomi yaitu Hukum Supply and Demandnya Adam Smith, 
> anda BETUL...>> Kalo dari segi Bandarmologi, kalo Trader yang MASIH HOLD belum> mau JUALAN, terpaksa PENYIKSAAN dilanjutkan ampe> anda MENYERAH.>>> -Original Message- 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
 obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx-consultant> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:15 PM> To: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader> BUY>> Kapan IHSG rebound ?.>> Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA 
> YG MAEN >> Contoh:>> TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu> dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.> Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?) 
>> Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.>> JAWABAN:> - Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ >> Note:> - Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing: 
>>> 15:59:56 38213996 6,500 1 II D D LG> 15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG> 15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG> 15:58:40 38213535 6,100 6 ML F D LG>> 15:58:40 38213534 6,100 1 IP D D LG 
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[obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY?

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Richard Ropongi




Masa IHSG rebound kalo ga ada lg yg transaksi jual ato beli di BEJ ?? Mendingan BEJ dibubarin aja, ganti TOGEL..YANG PASTI Kalo IHSG begini terus, pasti masyarakat akan makin ANTI DENGAN SAHAM..James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:  you are not part of the targetted them so stay calm aje ... yang disiksa khan pemain besar  On 5/22/06, cherax6969 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   kalau kita cuma pegang blta 2 lot dan gak mau cutloss, apa dari'bandarmologi' tetep bela-bela'in 'yiksa'?--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> >Salah boss,> >Indeks Rebound---KALAU UDAH GAK ADA YANG JUAL> >Betu?>> Dari segi ilmu Ekonomi yaitu Hukum Supply and Demandnya Adam Smith, > anda BETUL...>> Kalo dari segi Bandarmologi, kalo Trader yang MASIH HOLD belum> mau JUALAN, terpaksa PENYIKSAAN dilanjutkan ampe> anda MENYERAH.>>> -Original Message- > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> [mailto: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
 jsx-consultant> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:15 PM> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader> BUY>> Kapan IHSG rebound ?.>> Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA > YG MAEN >> Contoh:>> TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu> dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.> Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?) >> Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.>> JAWABAN:> - Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ >> Note:> - Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing: >>> 15:59:56 38213996 6,500 1 II D D LG> 15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18
 II D D LG> 15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG> 15:58:40 38213535 6,100 6 ML F D LG>> 15:58:40 38213534 6,100 1 IP D D LG > 15:58:40 38213533 6,100 3 ML F D LG> 15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG> 15:58:04 38213351 6,100 3 YJ D D LG> 15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG> 15:57:40 38213205 6,100 3 ML F D LG > 15:57:20 38213088 6,100 17 ML F D LG> 15:57:20 38213087 6,100 3 ML F D LG> 15:55:48 38212762 6,100 12 ML F D LG> 15:55:48 38212761 6,100 2 IP D D LG> 15:55:48 38212760 6,100 5 ML F D LG > 15:55:48 38212759 6,100 2 OK D D LG> 15:55:48 38212758 6,100 9 YJ D D LG Yahoo! Groups Links>  SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course   Business to business finance   Small business finance Business finance consultant   Business finance magazine   Business finance schools   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 
   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY




you are not part of the targetted them so stay calm aje ... yang disiksa khan pemain besar
On 5/22/06, cherax6969 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


kalau kita cuma pegang blta 2 lot dan gak mau cutloss, apa dari'bandarmologi' tetep bela-bela'in 'yiksa'?--- In 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> >Salah boss,> >Indeks Rebound---KALAU UDAH GAK ADA YANG JUAL> >Betu?>> Dari segi ilmu Ekonomi yaitu Hukum Supply and Demandnya Adam Smith,
> anda BETUL...>> Kalo dari segi Bandarmologi, kalo Trader yang MASIH HOLD belum> mau JUALAN, terpaksa PENYIKSAAN dilanjutkan ampe> anda MENYERAH.>>> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx-consultant> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:15 PM> To: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader> BUY>> Kapan IHSG rebound ?.>> Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA
> YG MAEN >> Contoh:>> TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu> dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.> Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?)
>> Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.>> JAWABAN:> - Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ >> Note:> - Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing:
>>> 15:59:56 38213996 6,500 1 II D D LG> 15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG> 15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG> 15:58:40 38213535 6,100 6 ML F D LG>> 15:58:40 38213534 6,100 1 IP D D LG
> 15:58:40 38213533 6,100 3 ML F D LG> 15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG> 15:58:04 38213351 6,100 3 YJ D D LG> 15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG> 15:57:40 38213205 6,100 3 ML F D LG
> 15:57:20 38213088 6,100 17 ML F D LG> 15:57:20 38213087 6,100 3 ML F D LG> 15:55:48 38212762 6,100 12 ML F D LG> 15:55:48 38212761 6,100 2 IP D D LG> 15:55:48 38212760 6,100 5 ML F D LG
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Emas Drop




Ada analis ngomong bisa koreksi ke 575 untuk resume rally ke 850

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Betul Mbah, dari kitco.com 662.90

Thanks
Hok1
> Dari Bloomberg pagi INI, harga emas 663 dan bukan 637, 
> APA sudah REBOUND ?
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[obrolan-bandar] story about India's Stock

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik indonesian trader




India's Stocks, Still Expensive, May Extend Three-Day
Tumble 
May 23 (Bloomberg) -- Indian stocks may extend their
three- day, 14 percent slump as some overseas
investors judge local shares expensive given the
outlook for earnings. 

``When there are worries about markets around the
globe, clearly the markets that have gone up the most
are going to get hit the most,'' said Arjun Divecha,
who manages the $10 billion GMO Emerging Markets Fund
in Berkeley, California. ``For a year or so we've felt
the market is overvalued.'' 

Stocks tumbled 10 percent at one point yesterday,
triggering a one-hour halt on both the Mumbai Stock
Exchange and the National Stock Exchange. The
Sensitive Index, or Sensex, dropped as much as .70
points and slid below 10,000 for the first time in
three months after investors were asked to make
additional payments to cover losses. 

Shares recovered from their lows of the day after the
government said banks would help investors meet calls
for cash. The central bank backed that up by saying it
would assist banks in making cash available to meet
margin calls. The Sensex ended down 4.2 percent to
10,481.77 yesterday. 

The Sensex rose 95 percent in the 12 months to May 10,
when it closed at a record 12,612.38. The benchmark
has dropped 17 percent since then. The measure is
valued at 17 times estimated earnings, more than the
12.9 times for the Morgan Stanly Capital International
Emerging Markets index, according to data compiled by
Bloomberg. 

``It's still very expensive,'' said Peter Hill, who
manages the $218 million Highmark International
Opportunity Fund in Foster City, California. ``The
fundamentals are pretty good for India, and it's at an
early stage of getting on this growth wagon. It's not
so much the fundamentals as over speculation in the
stock market.'' 

`Next Risk' 

Overseas investors sold $302.9 million of Indian
equities on May 19, according to figures released late
yesterday from the Securities & Exchange Board of
India, the stock market regulator. That's the most
they have sold in almost a year. 

If people who have put their money in mutual funds
``start getting nervous, then you could see a second
wave of selling pressure,'' said David Chatterjee, who
helps manage $700 million of investment in India for
Pictet Asset Management in London. ``That'd be the
next risk.'' 

Finance Minister Palaniappan Chidambaram said
yesterday there's no cash problem in the stock market
and banks will give ``ample funds'' to pay for shares.
The Indian government, which controls nine of the
country's 10 biggest lenders, said yesterday that
money will be available from banks to cover demand
that may arise from so-called margin calls. 

Speculative Buying 

Earlier this month, strategists at JPMorgan Chase &
Co. said the rally in Indian stocks was unsustainable
because of rising interest rates and energy costs. 

JPMorgan, the third-largest bank in the U.S., cut its
rating on Indian stocks to ``underweight'' from
``neutral'' on May 2. The Sensex's 1000-point jump
from 11,000 to 12,000 between the end of March and the
end of April has been ``swift and furious,'' Bharat
Iyer, JPMorgan's India strategist and research head,
said in an April 25 note. 

``The risk-reward remains unfavorable for the Indian
markets in the short term,'' said Sanjiv Duggal, who
helps manage about $1.1 billion for the Japan-based
HSBC India Open Fund in Singapore. ``The rally in
stocks wasn't really driven by fundamental buying, a
large part of it was speculative and leveraged
positions.'' 

Correction 

Only nine stocks representing 30 percent of the Sensex
outperformed the index during the latest rally,
notched up in just 19 trading sessions, JPMorgan's
Iyer said. An analysis of bull markets from 1994 and
2000 suggest that a narrowing of market breadth
signals a correction, he said. 

``Economic growth and market growth don't have to move
in tandem,'' Duggal of HSBC said. ``Even when the
Sensex was trading at between 3000 and 4000, the
economy was still growing at a healthy rate.'' 

The last time the market was suspended because of a 10
percent slump was on May 17, 2004, prompted by the
defeat of the previous government. The day's
cumulative 11.1 percent drop reflected concern that
the incoming Congress party, backed by the communists,
would reverse economic reforms that had spurred the
fastest economic growth in 15 years. 

Markets then recovered after the government said it
would continue with economic reforms and push economic
growth. 

Some investors predict the markets will rebound this
time around as well, as India's growth story remains
intact. 

`Good' Value 

India's economic growth averaged 8 percent in the
three years ended March 31, making it the
second-fastest growing major economy after China. The
government is counting on farm and industrial
production to accelerate economic growth to as much as
10 percent a year over the next decade. 

The Sensex's 14-day relative strength index, a gauge
of

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Emas Drop

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik edwin c

Pagi2 Rupiah udah ngedrop 60poin...

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Emas Drop




yup udah rebound dari 637-650-663
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Emas Drop


> Dari Bloomberg pagi INI, harga emas 663 dan bukan 637,
> APA sudah REBOUND ?
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "A3K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
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>> Forget it lah .. Ferry Latuhihin dan Syafrial Anwar di Metro TV sdh
> buat
>> statement bhw Rupiah bahkan bisa ke 9700,
>>
>> Jadi keliatannya akan terus bearish .. kecuali ada sentiment utk
> beberapa BC
>>
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>> On Behalf Of Karno Edy
>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:02 PM
>> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Emas Drop
>>
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>> Kayanya besok rebound, tapi ga sebanyak turunnya.
>>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Emas Drop

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik hok1




Betul Mbah, dari kitco.com 662.90

Thanks
Hok1
> Dari Bloomberg pagi INI, harga emas 663 dan bukan 637, 
> APA sudah REBOUND ?
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "A3K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Emas Drop

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik D & L









CNBC 9.05 am
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From: jsx_consultant
Date: 05/23/06 08:59:14
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Emas Drop
 Dari Bloomberg pagi INI, harga emas 663 dan bukan 637, APA sudah REBOUND ?--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "A3K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>>  > > Forget it lah .. Ferry Latuhihin dan Syafrial Anwar di Metro TV sdh buat> statement bhw Rupiah bahkan bisa ke 9700,> > Jadi keliatannya akan terus bearish .. kecuali ada sentiment utk beberapa BC> > >  > > A3K> >  > >   _  > > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Behalf Of Karno Edy> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:02 PM> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Emas Drop> >  > > Kayanya besok rebound, tapi ga sebanyak turunnya.> > - Original Message - > From: "Dodik S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:43 PM> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Emas Drop> > > > harga emas drop ke 637 dari 700, perkiraan dollar bakal menguat inflasi> > turun ..> >> > BESOK REBOUND !!!> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Business>  ance+course&w2=Business+to+business+finance&w3=Small+business+finance&w4=Bus> iness+finance+consultant&w5=Business+finance+magazine&w6=Business+finance+sc> hools&c=6&s=185&.sig=I8jDsORmsaYn0BeqghcJ2w>  finance course > > Business>  s+finance+course&w2=Business+to+business+finance&w3=Small+business+finance&w> 4=Business+finance+consultant&w5=Business+finance+magazine&w6=Business+finan> ce+schools&c=6&s=185&.sig=fCzze7cxm1K7TVKkzAaOrA>  to business finance > > Small>  nce+course&w2=Business+to+business+finance&w3=Small+business+finance&w4=Busi> ness+finance+consultant&w5=Business+finance+magazine&w6=Business+finance+sch> ools&c=6&s=185&.sig=v9sWAno7Kz4WuL8Tadcdhw>  business finance > > > Business>  +finance+course&w2=Business+to+business+finance&w3=Small+business+finance&w4> =Business+finance+consultant&w5=Business+finance+magazine&w6=Business+financ> e+schools&c=6&s=185&.sig=d1xwT3WL0E6XBf6cAV5BXA>  finance consultant > > Business>  inance+course&w2=Business+to+business+finance&w3=Small+business+finance&w4=B> usiness+finance+consultant&w5=Business+finance+magazine&w6=Business+finance+> schools&c=6&s=185&.sig=qphRINaNuVm_6bwoQxgUmg>  finance magazine > > Business>  nance+course&w2=Business+to+business+finance&w3=Small+business+finance&w4=Bu> siness+finance+consultant&w5=Business+finance+magazine&w6=Business+finance+s> chools&c=6&s=185&.sig=1RfnhYZpV99RKWRZzSH4gA>  finance schools > >  > >   _  > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >  > > *  Visit your group "obrolan-bandar>  " on the web.>   > *  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject=Unsubscribe> >   > *  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!>   Terms of Service. > >  > >   _>
 












  
  
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Dari Bloomberg pagi INI, harga emas 663 dan bukan 637, 
APA sudah REBOUND ?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "A3K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Forget it lah .. Ferry Latuhihin dan Syafrial Anwar di Metro TV sdh 
buat
> statement bhw Rupiah bahkan bisa ke 9700,
> 
> Jadi keliatannya akan terus bearish .. kecuali ada sentiment utk 
beberapa BC
> 
> 
>  
> 
> A3K
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>   _  
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-
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> On Behalf Of Karno Edy
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:02 PM
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>  
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> Kayanya besok rebound, tapi ga sebanyak turunnya.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dodik S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:43 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Emas Drop
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> > harga emas drop ke 637 dari 700, perkiraan dollar bakal menguat 
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[obrolan-bandar] ISENG ISENG KALA BEARISH

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik A3K

Guys,

Aku binun nih …. Menyaksikan
tayangan TV mengenai kasus BB Tri – Halimah – Mayangsari,

Berapa banyak energy (capital) dikeluarkan
oleh pers, TV, polisi, terus koran2 utk urusan sepele perkawinan pribadi kayak
gitu ?? 

Berapa banyak energy dikeluarkan utk
mob/demob massa
utk demonstarsi pro / kontra UU Anti pornografi ? 

Pro yang anti atau anti yang pro ?? Disini lebih gila lagi, terlibat DPR, ORMAS, pemerintah dsb.

Sementara utk pembelian kembali
saham SMGR dari cemex cuman diputuskan oleh beberapa orang saja ? 

BEJ itu sudah ribut kalo
ada putaran omzet lebih dari Rp 1 trilyun,

Berapa sih putaran uang di glodok, pasar
kenari, mangga2 daerah sekitar situ ?

Pasti lebih kan ? 

Terus maunya apa ? 

Gak tahu, tapi saya cuman
merasa bahwa banyak alokasi dana itu dikeluarkan pada hal yang semestinya gitu
lho

Sedangkan yang butuh dana segar &
employment kagak ada yang mau kucurin duwit.

Mending juga dana itu dibeliin BC kan inex bisa joss lagi,

Tapi siapa peduli, dgn omzet sekitar 2 -3
trilyun yang menikmati Cuma beberapa ribu pemain saham ? 

Mending kalo gain nya dipake buat makan2,
kagak la yauw, malah di pake beli lagi beli lagi … katanya investasi

Hi hi hi …….. kalo udah jeblok
gini …. Investasi ??? 

Wah unek unek …… A3K

From:
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alfanendya
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:40
PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM
: 24th of a 100 JSX INDONESIA
EQUITY

Tahun lalu juga
ceritanya sama. Tapi kenyataannya pertumbuhan ekonomi
China
masih berlanjut meroket. Ngapain slow down kalau kurs dan suku
bunga under control. Lagipula China
butuh otot besar untuk jadi negara
super power. Harus banyak makan yg bergizi hehe.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy Halim"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> Pak,bila baca dan dengar di CNBCAsia, koran koran di Tiongkok,
pemerintahnya
> berusaha melambatkan pertumbuhan jadi mestinya kebutuhan nikkel akan
turun.
> Suku bunga dinaikkan, deregulasi pasar sahamnya. Jadi kalau managed-slow
> down ini berlaku lama, akan ada penurunan kebutuhan nikel.
> Spt pasar tembaga (copper) baru baru ini drop dalam 1
hari sebesar 4% di
> bursa copper Shanghai.
> 
> Ini pandangan secara makro efeknya sooner or later akan terasa
menurut saya,
> CMIIW..
> th
> 
> On 5/22/06, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Bagus risetnya in line hitungannya! *Akan tetapi harga asumsi nickel
> > 15500USD/MT terlalu konservatif , karena sekarang harga nickel
sudah wara
> > wiri di atas 2USD/MT. *Cek di www.lme.com/nickel.asp . Sepertinya
> > nggak mungkin turun di bawah 19ribu USD/MT soalnya harga pasar nickel
> > ditentukan demand China
dan mainly supply Rio Tinto dan BHP.
Tambang di
> > Australia dan Canada costnya
sudah bengkak sampai diatas 5 USD/lb,
nggak
> > akan dilepas di harga murah kalo margin tergerus di jaman resesi ini.
> > So rekomendasi Strong BUY mumpung kemurahan.
> >
>

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM : 24th of a 100 JSX INDONESIA EQUITY




Kuncinya memang di sektor riil. Tapi selama KPK nya, masih terlalu sangar seperti ini, believe me, sektor riil tidak akan kemana-mana. Karena Sektor riil Garis Startnya ada di INFRASTRUCTURE ironisnya, disinilah tempat yang paling rawan sehingga KPK betul2 pasang rambu2 & alarm. Jadi sekarang Infrastructure tidak berani bergerak-gerak, takut kalau2 alarmnya kesenggol terus bunyi. "DILEMA".   A3K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
    Kedua hal itu yang kita gak punya,  BI tidak mampu meredam masuk dan keluar nya hot money, yang bikin kurs anjlok tidak keruan.  Bukannya gak ada peraturannya, tapi menurut saya BI memang tidak taktis menjaga THE INDONESIAN FINACIAL BORDER     Kalo suku bunga agak beda, karena memang selalu pengaruh dari luar  dan ini kan utk menyetir inflasi  (atau sudah kebalikannya, di setir oleh inflasi ??)      Yang jelas selama sector real tidak bergerak, tidak ada
 produksi yang berarti di dalam negeri,  Kita bakal teru kelojotan kayak ginian . Susah2 kumpulin devisa asing, cuman utk dibelanjakan lagi utk barang2 import     Padahal rakyat didalam negeri menderita kehilangan pekerjaan  ini yang membuat SBY Kalla tidak dipercaya oleh orang2      Ah jadi kepanjangan ngomongnya     A3K        From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alfanendyaSent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:40 PMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM : 24th of a 100 JSX INDONESIA EQUITY     Tahun
 lalu juga ceritanya sama. Tapi kenyataannya pertumbuhan ekonomiChina masih berlanjut meroket. Ngapain slow down kalau kurs dan sukubunga under control. Lagipula China butuh otot besar untuk jadi negarasuper power. Harus banyak makan yg bergizi hehe.--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy Halim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>> Pak,bila baca dan dengar di CNBCAsia, koran koran di Tiongkok,pemerintahnya> berusaha melambatkan pertumbuhan jadi mestinya kebutuhan nikkel akanturun.> Suku bunga dinaikkan, deregulasi pasar sahamnya. Jadi kalau managed-slow> down ini berlaku lama, akan ada penurunan kebutuhan nikel.> Spt pasar tembaga (copper) baru baru ini drop dalam 1 hari sebesar 4% di> bursa copper Shanghai.> > Ini pandangan secara makro efeknya sooner or later akan terasamenurut saya,> CMIIW..> th> > On 5/22/06, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > Bagus risetnya in line hitungannya! *Akan tetapi harga asumsi nickel> > 15500USD/MT terlalu konservatif , karena sekarang harga nickelsudah wara> > wiri di atas 2USD/MT. *Cek di www.lme.com/nickel.asp . Sepertinya> > nggak mungkin turun di bawah 19ribu USD/MT soalnya harga pasar nickel> > ditentukan demand China dan mainly supply Rio Tinto dan BHP.Tambang di> > Australia dan Canada costnya sudah bengkak sampai diatas
 5 USD/lb,nggak> > akan dilepas di harga murah kalo margin tergerus di jaman resesi ini.> > So rekomendasi Strong BUY mumpung kemurahan.> >>
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM : 24th of a 100 JSX INDONESIA EQUITY

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik A3K











 

Kedua hal itu yang kita gak punya,

BI tidak mampu meredam masuk dan keluar
nya hot money, yang bikin kurs anjlok tidak keruan.

Bukannya gak ada peraturannya, tapi
menurut saya BI memang tidak taktis menjaga THE INDONESIAN FINACIAL BORDER

 

Kalo suku bunga agak beda, karena memang
selalu pengaruh dari luar … dan ini kan utk menyetir inflasi

(atau sudah kebalikannya, di setir oleh
inflasi ??) 

 

Yang jelas selama sector real tidak
bergerak, tidak ada produksi yang berarti di dalam negeri,

Kita bakal teru kelojotan kayak ginian ….
Susah2 kumpulin devisa asing, cuman utk dibelanjakan lagi utk barang2 import

 

Padahal rakyat didalam negeri menderita
kehilangan pekerjaan – ini yang membuat SBY Kalla tidak dipercaya oleh orang2


 

Ah jadi kepanjangan ngomongnya

 

A3K

 

 









From:
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alfanendya
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:40
PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM
: 24th of a 100 JSX INDONESIA
EQUITY



 

Tahun lalu juga ceritanya sama. Tapi kenyataannya pertumbuhan ekonomi
China
masih berlanjut meroket. Ngapain slow down kalau kurs dan suku
bunga under control. Lagipula China
butuh otot besar untuk jadi negara
super power. Harus banyak makan yg bergizi hehe.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy Halim"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Pak,bila baca dan dengar di CNBCAsia, koran koran di Tiongkok,
pemerintahnya
> berusaha melambatkan pertumbuhan jadi mestinya kebutuhan nikkel akan
turun.
> Suku bunga dinaikkan, deregulasi pasar sahamnya. Jadi kalau managed-slow
> down ini berlaku lama, akan ada penurunan kebutuhan nikel.
> Spt pasar tembaga (copper) baru baru ini drop dalam 1 hari sebesar 4% di
> bursa copper Shanghai.
> 
> Ini pandangan secara makro efeknya sooner or later akan terasa
menurut saya,
> CMIIW..
> th
> 
> On 5/22/06, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Bagus risetnya in line hitungannya! *Akan tetapi harga asumsi nickel
> > 15500USD/MT terlalu konservatif , karena sekarang harga nickel
sudah wara
> > wiri di atas 2USD/MT. *Cek di www.lme.com/nickel.asp . Sepertinya
> > nggak mungkin turun di bawah 19ribu USD/MT soalnya harga pasar nickel
> > ditentukan demand China
dan mainly supply Rio Tinto dan BHP.
Tambang di
> > Australia dan Canada costnya
sudah bengkak sampai diatas 5 USD/lb,
nggak
> > akan dilepas di harga murah kalo margin tergerus di jaman resesi ini.
> > So rekomendasi Strong BUY mumpung kemurahan.
> >
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik cherax6969




kalau kita cuma pegang blta 2 lot dan gak mau cutloss, apa dari
'bandarmologi' tetep bela-bela'in 'yiksa'?
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Salah boss,
> >Indeks Rebound---KALAU UDAH GAK ADA YANG JUAL
> >Betu?
>
> Dari segi ilmu Ekonomi yaitu Hukum Supply and Demandnya Adam Smith,
> anda BETUL...
>
> Kalo dari segi Bandarmologi, kalo Trader yang MASIH HOLD belum
> mau JUALAN, terpaksa PENYIKSAAN dilanjutkan ampe
> anda MENYERAH.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx-consultant
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:15 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader
> BUY
>
> Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
>
> Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA
> YG MAEN 
>
> Contoh:
>
> TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu
> dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.
> Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?)
>
> Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
>
> JAWABAN:
> - Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ 
>
> Note:
> - Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing:
>
>
> 15:59:56 38213996 6,500 1 II D D LG
> 15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG
> 15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG
> 15:58:40 38213535 6,100 6 ML F D LG
>
> 15:58:40 38213534 6,100 1 IP D D LG
> 15:58:40 38213533 6,100 3 ML F D LG
> 15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> 15:58:04 38213351 6,100 3 YJ D D LG
> 15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG
> 15:57:40 38213205 6,100 3 ML F D LG
> 15:57:20 38213088 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> 15:57:20 38213087 6,100 3 ML F D LG
> 15:55:48 38212762 6,100 12 ML F D LG
> 15:55:48 38212761 6,100 2 IP D D LG
> 15:55:48 38212760 6,100 5 ML F D LG
> 15:55:48 38212759 6,100 2 OK D D LG
> 15:55:48 38212758 6,100 9 YJ D D LG
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Emas Drop

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik A3K











 

Forget it lah …. Ferry Latuhihin dan
Syafrial Anwar di Metro TV sdh buat statement bhw Rupiah bahkan bisa ke 9700,

Jadi keliatannya akan terus bearish ……
kecuali ada sentiment utk beberapa BC 

 

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Karno Edy
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:02 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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Drop



 

Kayanya besok rebound,
tapi ga sebanyak turunnya.

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> harga emas drop ke 637 dari 700, perkiraan dollar bakal menguat inflasi
> turun ..
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY....

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Jayamudita




Mbah, saat ini (10.30 WIB) Telkom di NYSE turun sebesar 12.53%.

- Original Message -
From: "jsx-consultant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:15 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY


> Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
>
> Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA
> YG MAEN 
>
> Contoh:
>
> TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu
> dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.
> Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?)
>
> Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
>
> JAWABAN:
> - Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ 
>
> Note:
> - Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing:
>
>
> 15:59:56 38213996 6,500  1 II D D LG
> 15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG
> 15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG
> 15:58:40 38213535 6,100  6 ML F D LG
>
> 15:58:40 38213534 6,100  1 IP D D LG
> 15:58:40 38213533 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> 15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> 15:58:04 38213351 6,100  3 YJ D D LG
> 15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG
> 15:57:40 38213205 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> 15:57:20 38213088 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> 15:57:20 38213087 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> 15:55:48 38212762 6,100 12 ML F D LG
> 15:55:48 38212761 6,100  2 IP D D LG
> 15:55:48 38212760 6,100  5 ML F D LG
> 15:55:48 38212759 6,100  2 OK D D LG
> 15:55:48 38212758 6,100  9 YJ D D LG
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY




Berarti hari ini banyak yang Force Sell donk. Dalem lagi eeuuyyy.     James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Mbah,     Terutama untuk para trader yang memanfaatkan margin maka tentunya Force Sell harus dijalankan terus agar barang terpaksa dikeluarkan ... Bozz memang hebat.     Mbah, saya ada sedikit pertanyaan bagaimana pandangan bandarmologi terhadap seluruh bursa dunia yang kemarin crash?     Cheers,   On 5/22/06, jsx-consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   >Salah boss,>Indeks Rebound---KALAU UDAH GAK ADA YANG JUAL>Betu?Dari segi ilmu Ekonomi yaitu Hukum Supply and Demandnya Adam Smith,anda BETUL...Kalo dari segi Bandarmologi, kalo Trader yang MASIH HOLD belum mau JUALAN, terpaksa PENYIKSAAN dilanjutkan ampeanda MENYERAH.-Original Message-From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com[mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx-consultant Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:15 PMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When
 NO MORE trader BUYKapan IHSG rebound ?.Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADAYG MAEN Contoh:TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, laludalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500. Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?)Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.JAWABAN:- Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ Note:- Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing: 15:59:56 38213996 6,500  1 II D D LG15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG15:58:40 38213535 6,100  6 ML F D LG15:58:40 38213534 6,100  1 IP D D LG15:58:40 38213533 6,100  3 ML F D LG 15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG15:58:04 38213351 6,100  3 YJ D D LG15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG15:57:40 38213205 6,100  3 ML F D LG15:57:20 38213088 6,100
 17 ML F D LG15:57:20 38213087 6,100  3 ML F D LG 15:55:48 38212762 6,100 12 ML F D LG15:55:48 38212761 6,100  2 IP D D LG15:55:48 38212760 6,100  5 ML F D LG15:55:48 38212759 6,100  2 OK D D LG15:55:48 38212758 6,100  9 YJ D D LGYahoo! Groups Links  SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course   Business to business finance   Small business finance Business finance consultant   Business finance magazine   Business finance schools   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY




Mbah,
 
Terutama untuk para trader yang memanfaatkan margin maka tentunya Force Sell harus dijalankan terus agar barang terpaksa dikeluarkan ... Bozz memang hebat.
 
Mbah, saya ada sedikit pertanyaan bagaimana pandangan bandarmologi terhadap seluruh bursa dunia yang kemarin crash?
 
Cheers, 
On 5/22/06, jsx-consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>Salah boss,>Indeks Rebound---KALAU UDAH GAK ADA YANG JUAL>Betu?Dari segi ilmu Ekonomi yaitu Hukum Supply and Demandnya Adam Smith,anda BETUL...Kalo dari segi Bandarmologi, kalo Trader yang MASIH HOLD belum
mau JUALAN, terpaksa PENYIKSAAN dilanjutkan ampeanda MENYERAH.-Original Message-From: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com[mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx-consultant
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:15 PMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader
BUYKapan IHSG rebound ?.Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADAYG MAEN Contoh:TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, laludalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.
Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?)Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.JAWABAN:- Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ Note:- Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing:
15:59:56 38213996 6,500  1 II D D LG15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG15:58:40 38213535 6,100  6 ML F D LG15:58:40 38213534 6,100  1 IP D D LG15:58:40 38213533 6,100  3 ML F D LG
15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG15:58:04 38213351 6,100  3 YJ D D LG15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG15:57:40 38213205 6,100  3 ML F D LG15:57:20 38213088 6,100 17 ML F D LG15:57:20 38213087 6,100  3 ML F D LG
15:55:48 38212762 6,100 12 ML F D LG15:55:48 38212761 6,100  2 IP D D LG15:55:48 38212760 6,100  5 ML F D LG15:55:48 38212759 6,100  2 OK D D LG15:55:48 38212758 6,100  9 YJ D D LG
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[obrolan-bandar] ANOTHER ARMAGEDDON???

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Iffan Suryanto






TLKM di NYSE -9.34%
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DJI -0.17%
 
Hehehe 
Seems today is right day to buy and 'take vacation' 
until World Cup season over :)
 




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on Macro View

Ternyata memang ngejar Gap yang belum tercover, tapi ngejarnya kuenceng banget kaya sopir metro-mini lagi nguber setoran. Tapi kalau menurut Elwave-nya Pak James Arifin lebih serem lagi, Wave 4 masih belum ketemu dasarnya. Mungkin minggu ini ketemu tuh dasarnya, itu juga kalo tidak kebablasan. Dodik SUDIYONO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: magic line ... perlu di jadikan referensi , kayaknya udah keliatan arah IHSG mau kemana mbah minta pencerahannya ?- Original Message - From: Gregorius Sihombing To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:24 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on Macro ViewMenyambung grafik Pak Vibby, akankah nantinya IHSG membentukl grafik seperti ini? GS - Original Message - From: Santo Vibby To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:39 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on Macro ViewSambil iseng berdiskusi dengan salah seorang rekan (P'Sulung), beliau menanyakan tentang "Super Bear" yang muncul kemarin, setelah ngomong panjang lebar, kami membicarakan mengenai JSX dan Dow Teori yang sempet saya posting sebelumnya. Beliau hendak mengkonfirmasi analisa saya, dan malah jadinya dari beliau saya yang mendapatkan pengetahuan lbh dalam mengenai dow teori.. Perhatikan gbr terlampir, JSX membentuk sebuah Major Trend (Up) semenjak maret 2003, terbentuk hingga minggu lalu.. Berdasarkan Dow Theory, dalam sebuah major trend, selalu terdapat 3 minor trend yang terjadi... Secara Makro terdapat garis Support dan garis Resisten yang kuat. Jika memang ini merukan minor trend ke 3 yang terjadi.. maka, ... dalam
pembahasan KDT hari sabtu lalu oleh Eyang Ratman, maka memang terlihat ada kemungkinan JSX akan mencoba mengejar Gap yang blom tertutup di kisaran 1273-1282.. Hanya saja secara pribadi saya agak bingung menebak waktunya.. karena minor trend 1&2 terjadi dalam timescale 5-7 bulan utk menyentuh support... sementara chart yg terbentuk saat ini (dailynya) mirip2 chart zombie yang seolah2 gampang bener di bolak balik sesukanya... dan kayanya napsuh bener mengejar supportnya. Saya banyak mendapatkan pertanyaan gimana kira2 hari senin... Jujur saja saya rada bingung menjawab hal tersebut... karena secara pribadi saya memilih stay away dari huru hara yang sedang terjadi, hingga terbentuk base baru yang lbh kuat untuk nentuin arah dalam jangka pendeknya. Namun sambil menunggu base nya terbentuk, range pergerakan
JSX saat ini sangat luas dalam minor trendnya.. kemungkinan support Fibonancci spt yang pernah disebutkan oleh Eyang Ratman di 38.2% (kisaran 1.340 - 1.350-an) masih cukup kuat menahan kejatuhan market, Namun jgn lupa jg terdapat bullish rejection di level 1.500. Buat yang emang nyangkut tapi gak rela cut loss, saran saya mendingan anda dedikasiin waktu anda utk melakukan apa aja selain memantau gerakan market.. karena akan ruin your days Any other comments ?? Regards Vibby Disclaimer : Hanya bahan diskusi dan
bersifat edukatif, tidak menyarankan untuk membeli atau menjual saham, resiko bagi yang nekad bukan urusan saya lho... dan jika ada pertanyaan lbh lanjut, mohon untuk melemparkan pertanyaan tersebut melalui forum milis (jgn Japri) regards...
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY....

Saya tidak sedang ngecek transaksi orang Pak Karno
Tapi saya cuman mau belajar dari Mbah kalau TSPC kemarin yg jualan 
bukan pekerjaan MM...ternyata yg beli MM-nya.
Kalau ada "Slip tulisan" sampai ada yg kebetulan "Mengaku" saya 
mohon maaf; karena saya tidak ada urusannya dengan beliau!?
Apalagi berkaitan dengan LG...toh di IQ+, IMQ, dll bisa kelihatan 
kalau broker ini adalah "SARANG TSPC"...
Bukti saya salah sasaran wong nyebut costnya salah jauh; masak 6500 
dibilang 6800. Sampai Anaknya nggak terima???
Wong mungkin saya tidak sedang nebak dia...la kok dia sendiri yg 
ngaku?
Sekali lagi kalau saya salah saya mohon maaf sebesarnya...makanya 
saya dari dulu tidak pernah menyebutkan spesifik broker tertentu 
untuk menghindari POLEMIK model begini

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wrote:
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> Apa urusannya  ngecek transaksi orang :?, dan lagi secara etika 
> broker mana yg mau buka privacy investornya. Kalo broker ane buka-
> bukaan gitu pasti ane dah cabut ke broker laen.
> menurut ane gak perlu dilempar ke forum..
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_q"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Maaf Mbah saya berani pastikan kalau yang JUALAN itu semua 
> > (LG) "teman" saya lagi 
> bisa dicek ke brokernya.
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant 
> > consultant@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
> > > 
> > > Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA
> > > YG MAEN 
> > > 
> > > Contoh:
> > > 
> > > TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu
> > > dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.
> > > Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?)
> > > 
> > > Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
> > > 
> > > JAWABAN:
> > > - Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ 
> > > 
> > > Note:
> > > - Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 15:59:56 38213996 6,500  1 II D D LG
> > > 15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG
> > > 15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG
> > > 15:58:40 38213535 6,100  6 ML F D LG
> > > 
> > > 15:58:40 38213534 6,100  1 IP D D LG
> > > 15:58:40 38213533 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> > > 15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> > > 15:58:04 38213351 6,100  3 YJ D D LG
> > > 15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG
> > > 15:57:40 38213205 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> > > 15:57:20 38213088 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> > > 15:57:20 38213087 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> > > 15:55:48 38212762 6,100 12 ML F D LG
> > > 15:55:48 38212761 6,100  2 IP D D LG
> > > 15:55:48 38212760 6,100  5 ML F D LG
> > > 15:55:48 38212759 6,100  2 OK D D LG
> > > 15:55:48 38212758 6,100  9 YJ D D LG
> > >
> >
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM : 24th of a 100 JSX INDONESIA EQUITY

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik alfanendya




Tahun lalu juga ceritanya sama. Tapi kenyataannya pertumbuhan ekonomi
China masih berlanjut meroket. Ngapain slow down kalau kurs dan suku
bunga under control. Lagipula China butuh otot besar untuk jadi negara
super power. Harus banyak makan yg bergizi hehe.


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> Pak,bila baca dan dengar di CNBCAsia, koran koran di Tiongkok,
pemerintahnya
> berusaha melambatkan pertumbuhan jadi mestinya kebutuhan nikkel akan
turun.
> Suku bunga dinaikkan, deregulasi pasar sahamnya. Jadi kalau managed-slow
> down ini berlaku lama, akan ada penurunan kebutuhan nikel.
> Spt pasar tembaga (copper) baru baru ini drop dalam 1 hari sebesar 4% di
> bursa copper Shanghai.
> 
> Ini pandangan secara makro efeknya sooner or later akan terasa
menurut saya,
> CMIIW..
> th
> 
> On 5/22/06, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Bagus risetnya in line hitungannya! *Akan tetapi harga asumsi nickel
> > 15500USD/MT terlalu konservatif , karena sekarang harga nickel
sudah wara
> > wiri di atas 2USD/MT. *Cek di www.lme.com/nickel.asp . Sepertinya
> > nggak mungkin turun di bawah 19ribu USD/MT soalnya harga pasar nickel
> > ditentukan demand China dan mainly supply Rio Tinto dan BHP.
Tambang di
> > Australia dan Canada costnya sudah bengkak sampai diatas 5 USD/lb,
nggak
> > akan dilepas di harga murah kalo margin tergerus di jaman resesi ini.
> > So rekomendasi Strong BUY mumpung kemurahan.
> >
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[obrolan-bandar] Has the bear come yet or the bull just bow his head ?

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik rhisars




 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY....

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik karnoesb




Apa urusannya  ngecek transaksi orang :?, dan lagi secara etika 
broker mana yg mau buka privacy investornya. Kalo broker ane buka-
bukaan gitu pasti ane dah cabut ke broker laen.
menurut ane gak perlu dilempar ke forum..

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Maaf Mbah saya berani pastikan kalau yang JUALAN itu semua 
> (LG) "teman" saya lagi 
bisa dicek ke brokernya.
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant 
> consultant@> wrote:
> >
> > Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
> > 
> > Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA
> > YG MAEN 
> > 
> > Contoh:
> > 
> > TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu
> > dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.
> > Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?)
> > 
> > Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
> > 
> > JAWABAN:
> > - Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ 
> > 
> > Note:
> > - Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing:
> > 
> > 
> > 15:59:56 38213996 6,500  1 II D D LG
> > 15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG
> > 15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG
> > 15:58:40 38213535 6,100  6 ML F D LG
> > 
> > 15:58:40 38213534 6,100  1 IP D D LG
> > 15:58:40 38213533 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> > 15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> > 15:58:04 38213351 6,100  3 YJ D D LG
> > 15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG
> > 15:57:40 38213205 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> > 15:57:20 38213088 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> > 15:57:20 38213087 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> > 15:55:48 38212762 6,100 12 ML F D LG
> > 15:55:48 38212761 6,100  2 IP D D LG
> > 15:55:48 38212760 6,100  5 ML F D LG
> > 15:55:48 38212759 6,100  2 OK D D LG
> > 15:55:48 38212758 6,100  9 YJ D D LG
> >
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY....

Kalau tahu karena kebetulan ada "koneksi"...
Tapi saya khan sekarang lagi concern ama "farmasi" berkaitan dengan 
INAFmakanya saya sedang merhatikan dampaknya "Dumping, Mafia 
Farmasi" ala P. Bakrie terhadap pergerakan harga KLBF, TSPC dll. 
Kalau saya salah bicara Cost punya klg Anda itu berarti saya tidak 
kenal langsung dengan sampeyan
Hehehe...namanya aja dapet dari "info teman."

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>   "oentoeng_q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maaf Mbah saya berani pastikan kalau yang JUALAN itu 
> >semua 
> > (LG) "teman" saya lagi CUT LOSS untuk SWITCHING ke 
> >pertambangan.
> > Cost dia di 6800bisa dicek ke brokernya.
> > Besok barang Dia di tempat lain juga akan dikeluarkan...
> > Biar Mbah bisa bikin bandarmologi dengan contoh lain.
> > Saya menunggu Mbah... 
> 
> LHO? Bagaimana Anda bisa tahu?Itu memang barang orang 
> tua saya.Cuma yang salah itu biayanya,harga belinya 
> 6500-an,jadi cuma rugi 5% tidak ada masalah kami cut 
> loss.Dan memang kami mengincar pertambangan,tapi bukan di 
> harga sekarang,masih akan diturunkan ke harga yang lebih 
> rendah.
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY....

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik karnoesb




So, jangan pasang bid besok..

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
> 
> Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA
> YG MAEN 
> 
> Contoh:
> 
> TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu
> dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.
> Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?)
> 
> Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
> 
> JAWABAN:
> - Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ 
> 
> Note:
> - Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing:
> 
> 
> 15:59:56 38213996 6,500  1 II D D LG
> 15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG
> 15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG
> 15:58:40 38213535 6,100  6 ML F D LG
> 
> 15:58:40 38213534 6,100  1 IP D D LG
> 15:58:40 38213533 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> 15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> 15:58:04 38213351 6,100  3 YJ D D LG
> 15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG
> 15:57:40 38213205 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> 15:57:20 38213088 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> 15:57:20 38213087 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> 15:55:48 38212762 6,100 12 ML F D LG
> 15:55:48 38212761 6,100  2 IP D D LG
> 15:55:48 38212760 6,100  5 ML F D LG
> 15:55:48 38212759 6,100  2 OK D D LG
> 15:55:48 38212758 6,100  9 YJ D D LG
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[obrolan-bandar] Efek dari Fed

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Handika Wisnu




saya punya pendapat bahwa penurunan IHSG yg signifikan ini sebagian besar karena Fed naikin suku bunga secara mendadak...ditambah lagi ada info bahwa bulan depan Si "Bernanke" itu bakal naikin suku bunga lagi.  Waduh, IHSG bakal jatuh ampe level berapa nih??  bursa regional pun jadi berantakan dibuatnya...     tapi menurut saya penurunan bursa ini termasuk wajar karena bursa2 yg lain pun mengalami hal yang sama. Jadi ketika bursa regional uda mulai rebound, bursa qt pun akan ikutan rebound...setidaknya itu ekspetasi saya. (sebagai pelipur lara dari hati yg sedih)     tapi masalahnya kapankah peristiwa rebound itu akan terjadi??  1 bulan? 2 bulan? 6 bulan?  ada yg punya masukan ga?
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[obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik jsx-consultant




>Salah boss,
>Indeks Rebound---KALAU UDAH GAK ADA YANG JUAL
>Betu?

Dari segi ilmu Ekonomi yaitu Hukum Supply and Demandnya Adam Smith,
anda BETUL...

Kalo dari segi Bandarmologi, kalo Trader yang MASIH HOLD belum
mau JUALAN, terpaksa PENYIKSAAN dilanjutkan ampe
anda MENYERAH.


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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader
BUY

Kapan IHSG rebound ?.

Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA
YG MAEN 

Contoh:

TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu
dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.
Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?)

Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.

JAWABAN:
- Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ 

Note:
- Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing:


15:59:56 38213996 6,500  1 II D D LG
15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG
15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG
15:58:40 38213535 6,100  6 ML F D LG

15:58:40 38213534 6,100  1 IP D D LG
15:58:40 38213533 6,100  3 ML F D LG
15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG
15:58:04 38213351 6,100  3 YJ D D LG
15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG
15:57:40 38213205 6,100  3 ML F D LG
15:57:20 38213088 6,100 17 ML F D LG
15:57:20 38213087 6,100  3 ML F D LG
15:55:48 38212762 6,100 12 ML F D LG
15:55:48 38212761 6,100  2 IP D D LG
15:55:48 38212760 6,100  5 ML F D LG
15:55:48 38212759 6,100  2 OK D D LG
15:55:48 38212758 6,100  9 YJ D D LG







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY....

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Budi

  "oentoeng_q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maaf Mbah saya berani pastikan kalau yang JUALAN itu 
>semua 
> (LG) "teman" saya lagi CUT LOSS untuk SWITCHING ke 
>pertambangan.
> Cost dia di 6800bisa dicek ke brokernya.
> Besok barang Dia di tempat lain juga akan dikeluarkan...
> Biar Mbah bisa bikin bandarmologi dengan contoh lain.
> Saya menunggu Mbah... 

LHO? Bagaimana Anda bisa tahu?Itu memang barang orang 
tua saya.Cuma yang salah itu biayanya,harga belinya 
6500-an,jadi cuma rugi 5% tidak ada masalah kami cut 
loss.Dan memang kami mengincar pertambangan,tapi bukan di 
harga sekarang,masih akan diturunkan ke harga yang lebih 
rendah.

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[obrolan-bandar] Dividen BUMI

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Handika Wisnu




emm, nanya donk  Pembagian dividen BUMI yg Rp 205 itu jadinya kapan sih??  Denger2 yg Rp 5 uda dibagiin utk dividen interim Desember 2005, trus yg  Rp 10 dibagiin Juni 2006 nti, trus yg paling besar Rp 190 dibagiin baru  Desember 2006...berarti masih lama buanget!!apa tanggal pembagian dividen ini uda final?  tengkiu tengkiu  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY....




Jika TEMAN anda CUT LOSS, itu tidak masalah

Yang jadi POINT embah adalah, II me'REBOUND'kan TSPC dari 
6100 ke 6500 dalam 2 menit dengan membeli 29 lot DOANG.

15:59:56 38213996 6,500  1 II D D LG
15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG
15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG
15:58:40 38213535 6,100  6 ML F D LG

Apakah II akan meNGANGKAT TSPC jika harus membeli barang
trader yang JUMLAHNYA banyak ??  Jawabanya TENTU TIDAK
mengingat IHSG -83. Cuman orang GILA yang melakukan ini
kecuali si BOZZ yang me REBOUND kan IHSG tgl 17 untuk
DIBANTING LAGI keesokannya tapi tentunya si BOZZ bukan
orang GILA malah orang paling PIAWAI... hehehe


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> Maaf Mbah saya berani pastikan kalau yang JUALAN itu semua 
> (LG) "teman" saya lagi CUT LOSS untuk SWITCHING ke pertambangan.
> Cost dia di 6800bisa dicek ke brokernya.
> Besok barang Dia di tempat lain juga akan dikeluarkan...
> Biar Mbah bisa bikin bandarmologi dengan contoh lain.
> Saya menunggu Mbah... 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant 
> consultant@> wrote:
> >
> > Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
> > 
> > Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA
> > YG MAEN 
> > 
> > Contoh:
> > 
> > TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu
> > dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.
> > Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?)
> > 
> > Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
> > 
> > JAWABAN:
> > - Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ 
> > 
> > Note:
> > - Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing:
> > 
> > 
> > 15:59:56 38213996 6,500  1 II D D LG
> > 15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG
> > 15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG
> > 15:58:40 38213535 6,100  6 ML F D LG
> > 
> > 15:58:40 38213534 6,100  1 IP D D LG
> > 15:58:40 38213533 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> > 15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> > 15:58:04 38213351 6,100  3 YJ D D LG
> > 15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG
> > 15:57:40 38213205 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> > 15:57:20 38213088 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> > 15:57:20 38213087 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> > 15:55:48 38212762 6,100 12 ML F D LG
> > 15:55:48 38212761 6,100  2 IP D D LG
> > 15:55:48 38212760 6,100  5 ML F D LG
> > 15:55:48 38212759 6,100  2 OK D D LG
> > 15:55:48 38212758 6,100  9 YJ D D LG
> >
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Angka 3....




Kesimpulan untuk hari ini dan yang telah terlewat; saya selalu ingat 
perkataan Pak EKA yaitu:
" Naiknya fantastisTurunnya Dramatis "

Masih lumayan ada "Warna-Warninya" tapi tetap INGAT Perakitan Nuklir 
still in Progress(karena belon pernah kan "down" ampe 100 point 
lebih?)

Oentoeng juga manusia, ada salah; bisa juga boentoeng
Tetap semangat!!!...hehehehe

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Others" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bom nuklir dijatuhkan dari ketinggian?
> wah...entar dimarahin ama babe, soale di koran/tv bakal keluar
> berita tidak menyenangkan seperti capital outflow, asing lari, 
dll...
>  
> Mending mulai sekarang aja dijatuhkan bom-nya, day by day.
> kesannya kan "koreksi yang sehat", demikian kata analis selebriti.
> Terus koreksi, naek dikit, lalu turun terus...hold paling ya di 
1200.
> And then goes to 1000. Kata teman analis saya, harga saham saat
> ini adalah harga 'sentimen' dan 'belum pantas' untuk perusahaan 
tsb.
>  
> so? mending koreksi dulu BOZZ, mulai sekarang, pelan..pelan...
> daripada langsung BLAR!!! saat nanti mencapai rekor baru. Kasihan 
trader
> pemula yang bakal kecantol diatas.
>  
> Thanks.
> 
> 
>   _  
> 
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> 
> 
>  ... 
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> bahan yah? Saya tahu dan saya sarankan jatuhkan di ketinggian yang 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY....




Maaf Mbah saya berani pastikan kalau yang JUALAN itu semua 
(LG) "teman" saya lagi CUT LOSS untuk SWITCHING ke pertambangan.
Cost dia di 6800bisa dicek ke brokernya.
Besok barang Dia di tempat lain juga akan dikeluarkan...
Biar Mbah bisa bikin bandarmologi dengan contoh lain.
Saya menunggu Mbah... 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
> 
> Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA
> YG MAEN 
> 
> Contoh:
> 
> TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu
> dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.
> Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?)
> 
> Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.
> 
> JAWABAN:
> - Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ 
> 
> Note:
> - Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing:
> 
> 
> 15:59:56 38213996 6,500  1 II D D LG
> 15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG
> 15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG
> 15:58:40 38213535 6,100  6 ML F D LG
> 
> 15:58:40 38213534 6,100  1 IP D D LG
> 15:58:40 38213533 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> 15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> 15:58:04 38213351 6,100  3 YJ D D LG
> 15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG
> 15:57:40 38213205 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> 15:57:20 38213088 6,100 17 ML F D LG
> 15:57:20 38213087 6,100  3 ML F D LG
> 15:55:48 38212762 6,100 12 ML F D LG
> 15:55:48 38212761 6,100  2 IP D D LG
> 15:55:48 38212760 6,100  5 ML F D LG
> 15:55:48 38212759 6,100  2 OK D D LG
> 15:55:48 38212758 6,100  9 YJ D D LG
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Buku

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Abah











Sy punya es lilin jilid 1 dan 2, authornya
steve neeson.   Tukeran yuk

 









From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of darwin henri
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:56 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Buku



 

saya punya buku yang kedua, kalo anda punya buku elliot juga, kita bisa
tukeran

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Selamat sore,





 





Saya mencari 2 buku di bawah ini dan
bermaksud membelinya:





 





1. Applying Elliott Wave Theory Profitably
by Steven W. Poser 





 





2. Elliott Wave Principle : Key to Market
Behavior (Wiley Trading Advantage) 





by Charles J. Collins, A.J. Frost, Robert
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Kalau ada yang tidak membutuhkan lagi,
mohon japri saya.





 





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RE: [obrolan-bandar] elliot deui

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Abah











Nanya ah.  Apa sekarang sedang
mbentuk wave 3 yg targetnya 1150 ? eh terminal wave 1, 1339. ane nebak 1350.
wave  2 , 1484. ane nebak 1430.  Jadi masuk bej lagi dimana ?  kalo
ane masuk di 1000.  

 









From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abah
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:25
PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] elliot
deui



 

Kurang 15 lagi untuk mencapai 1350.  

Dari elliotwave nya mbah maka wave yg
dipake adalah yg merah.  Dan wave koreksi a, b, c sdh terjadi. ( yg mana
ya ?).  Sekarang adalah wave 1, yang lagi meluncur dan blon ketemu
terminalnya.  Mungkin terminalnya di 1350.  wave 2, naik 23.6% atau
38.2% atau 1400 – 1430.  lalu wave 3 turun lagi jadi 1150 (1430
–(1.382 * 200). Wave 4 naik jadi  1200 an. Wave 5 turun 200, eh
ketemu deh di 1000 an. Lalu sy liat elliot wavenya mbah.  He he ketemu di
garis 161.8%.  cocok. Gambaran di kepala abah dgn chartnya mbah. 
Kalo scenario ini maka yg dipake adalah elliotwave mbah yg biru.

Oh ya kalo kate orang yg ndaki gunung,
kalo naik pelan2 tapi turun gunungnya cepet.  Tapi kalo  turun gunung
  kan ada batasnya yaitu kaki gunung he he.

 









From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy Halim
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:39
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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re:
Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006



 

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[obrolan-bandar] Kapan IHSG rebound ? When NO MORE trader BUY....

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik jsx-consultant




Kapan IHSG rebound ?.

Dari MODEL BANDARMOLOGI, IHSG rebound kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA
YG MAEN 

Contoh:

TSPC Onen di 6500, lalu seharian turun ke 6100, lalu
dalam 2 menit TSPC rebound dari 6100 ke harga opening di 6500.
Yang maen saat itu tinggal II dan LG (the MM ?)

Jadi Kapan IHSG rebound ?.

JAWABAN:
- Kalo UDAH ENGGA ADA lagi trader yang berani NYENTUH BEJ 

Note:
- Terlampir TRX TSPC untuk 5 menit menjelang closing:


15:59:56 38213996 6,500  1 II D D LG
15:59:56 38213995 6,400 18 II D D LG
15:59:56 38213994 6,250 11 II D D LG
15:58:40 38213535 6,100  6 ML F D LG

15:58:40 38213534 6,100  1 IP D D LG
15:58:40 38213533 6,100  3 ML F D LG
15:58:04 38213352 6,100 17 ML F D LG
15:58:04 38213351 6,100  3 YJ D D LG
15:57:40 38213206 6,100 17 YJ D D LG
15:57:40 38213205 6,100  3 ML F D LG
15:57:20 38213088 6,100 17 ML F D LG
15:57:20 38213087 6,100  3 ML F D LG
15:55:48 38212762 6,100 12 ML F D LG
15:55:48 38212761 6,100  2 IP D D LG
15:55:48 38212760 6,100  5 ML F D LG
15:55:48 38212759 6,100  2 OK D D LG
15:55:48 38212758 6,100  9 YJ D D LG








  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM : 24th of a 100 JSX INDONESIA EQUITY

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim

Pak,bila baca dan dengar di CNBCAsia, koran koran di Tiongkok, pemerintahnya berusaha melambatkan pertumbuhan jadi mestinya kebutuhan nikkel akan turun. Suku bunga dinaikkan, deregulasi pasar sahamnya. Jadi kalau managed-slow down ini berlaku lama, akan ada penurunan kebutuhan nikel.
Spt pasar tembaga (copper) baru baru ini drop dalam 1 hari sebesar 4% di bursa copper Shanghai.Ini pandangan secara makro efeknya sooner or later akan terasa menurut saya, CMIIW..th
On 5/22/06, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Bagus risetnya in line hitungannya! Akan tetapi harga asumsi nickel 15500USD/MT terlalu konservatif , karena sekarang harga nickel sudah wara wiri di atas 2USD/MT. Cek di
www.lme.com/nickel.asp . Sepertinya nggak mungkin turun di bawah 19ribu USD/MT soalnya harga pasar nickel ditentukan demand China dan mainly supply Rio Tinto dan BHP. Tambang di Australia dan Canada costnya sudah bengkak sampai diatas 5 USD/lb, nggak akan dilepas di harga murah kalo margin tergerus di jaman resesi ini.
So rekomendasi Strong BUY mumpung kemurahan.

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[obrolan-bandar] Kalo besok rebound, beli apa?

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Eka Ginting - indo.com




Kalo liat data minggu lalu, yang jatuh hari Senin & Selasa, tapi bangkit lagi dengan mantap hari Rabunya:


 


 
 
 
 
  

  

  14-May-06
  15-May-06
  17-May-06
   RpNaik/Turun

 
 
  1
  UNSP
  1,060
  1,040
  1,160
  611.54%
 
 
  2
  BUMI
  910
  900
  940
  404.44%
 
 
  3
  SRSN
  135
  130
  140
  207.69%
 
 
  4
  BNLI
  750
  740
  760
  202.70%
 
 
  5
  TBLA
  295
  260
  320
  194.51%
 
 
  6
  ETWA
  250
  235
  255
  141.84%
 
 
  7
  DAVO
  245
  220
  250
  133.64%
 
 
  8
  BNGA
  630
  580
  640
  130.34%
 
 
  9
  BNII
  205
  185
  205
  110.81%
 
 
  10
  VOKS
  495
  450
  495
  110.00%
 
 
  11
  MTDL
  80
  75
  80
  106.67%
 
 
  12
  LPLI
  150
  145
  150
  103.45%
 
 
  13
  KAEF
  165
  160
  165
  103.13%
 
 
  14
  UNTR
  5,900
  5,450
  5,850
  96.23%
 
 
  15
  BBRI
  4,400
  4,025
  4,350
  94.74%
 
 
  16
  BMRI
  2,125
  1,850
  2,060
  87.71%
 
 
  17
  SCMA
  750
  650
  720
  80.77%
 
 
  18
  PTBA
  3,900
  3,400
  3,750
  80.29%
 
 
  19
  KIJA
  155
  140
  150
  73.81%
 
 
  20
  RAJA
  660
  630
  650
  69.84%
 
 
  21
  MYOR
  1,140
  970
  1,070
  69.13%
 
 
  22
  RALS
  850
  820
  840
  69.11%
 
 
  23
  BLTA
  2,075
  1,900
  2,010
  68.65%
 
 
  24
  MDLN
  290
  255
  275
  64.99%
 
 
  25
  CTRA
  680
  590
  640
  64.03%
 


Cheers,
--Eka Ginting
  indo.com






  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Perkiraan Index besok.

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik hst auto




rekan-rekan OB,ayoo besok index mau dibawa naek apa turun.???prediksi saya tembus level bawah (dibawah 1300) level psikologis bagi para trader baik dari segi TA ataupun Bandarmologi!hati-hati...kalo gak kuat mending cabut!!! kalo gak mau dipentung.
atau si bozz mau nyoba ngebangkitin rasa percaya diri trader dulu sebelum dihajar di sesi siang atau lusanya??Buat Mbah.. mungkin bisa kasih clue buat trader2 yang sudah bingung cari pegangan hehehe :)
tetap semangat... salam cuan.





  
  
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Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ALERT!!!!

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Michael 71




bbca tentuuu
 
On 5/22/06, Iffan Suryanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Kalo yg ini AYE SETUJU :)

 





  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Emas Drop

Kayanya besok rebound, tapi ga sebanyak turunnya.

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Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Emas Drop

> harga emas drop ke 637 dari 700, perkiraan dollar bakal menguat inflasi
> turun ..
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Angka 3....

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Others






Bom 
nuklir dijatuhkan dari ketinggian?
wah...entar dimarahin ama babe, soale di koran/tv bakal 
keluar
berita 
tidak menyenangkan seperti capital outflow, asing lari, 
dll...
 
Mending mulai sekarang aja dijatuhkan bom-nya, day by 
day.
kesannya kan "koreksi yang sehat", demikian kata analis 
selebriti.
Terus 
koreksi, naek dikit, lalu turun terus...hold paling ya di 
1200.
And 
then goes to 1000. Kata teman analis saya, harga saham saat
ini 
adalah harga 'sentimen' dan 'belum pantas' untuk perusahaan 
tsb.
 
so? 
mending koreksi dulu BOZZ, mulai sekarang, pelan..pelan...
daripada langsung BLAR!!! saat nanti mencapai rekor 
baru. Kasihan trader
pemula 
yang bakal kecantol diatas.
 
Thanks.


From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
oentoeng_qSent: 22 Mei 2006 8:38To: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: [obrolan-bandar] Angka 
3
 ... BOZZ...saya denger Anda sedang merakit 
BOM NUKLIR...lagi ngumpulin bahan yah? Saya tahu dan saya sarankan jatuhkan 
di ketinggian yang Setinggi-tingginyasupaya EFEKnya Ruarrr 
Biasa!!!Tapi tolong; saya tergelitik utk bikin ulasan NUKLIR; tunggu kelar 
dulu ulasan saya tersebutmasih sabar khan?




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on Macro View






magic line ...
 
perlu di jadikan referensi , kayaknya udah keliatan 
arah IHSG mau kemana
 
mbah minta pencerahannya ?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Gregorius 
  Sihombing 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on 
  Macro View
  
  Menyambung grafik Pak Vibby, akankah nantinya IHSG membentukl grafik 
  seperti ini?
   
  GS
   
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Santo Vibby 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:39 
PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on Macro 
View

Sambil iseng berdiskusi dengan salah seorang 
rekan (P'Sulung), beliau menanyakan tentang "Super Bear" yang muncul 
kemarin, setelah ngomong panjang lebar, kami membicarakan mengenai JSX dan 
Dow Teori yang sempet saya posting sebelumnya. Beliau hendak 
mengkonfirmasi analisa saya, dan malah jadinya dari beliau saya yang 
mendapatkan pengetahuan lbh dalam mengenai dow teori..
 
Perhatikan gbr terlampir, JSX membentuk sebuah 
Major Trend (Up) semenjak maret 2003, terbentuk hingga  minggu lalu.. Berdasarkan Dow Theory, dalam sebuah major 
trend, selalu terdapat 3 minor trend yang terjadi... Secara Makro terdapat 
garis Support dan garis Resisten yang kuat.  Jika memang ini merukan 
minor trend ke 3 yang terjadi.. maka, ...
 
dalam pembahasan KDT hari sabtu lalu 
oleh Eyang Ratman, maka memang terlihat ada kemungkinan JSX akan 
mencoba mengejar Gap yang blom tertutup di kisaran 1273-1282.. Hanya saja 
secara pribadi saya agak bingung menebak waktunya.. karena minor trend 
1&2 terjadi dalam timescale 5-7 bulan utk menyentuh support... sementara 
chart yg terbentuk saat ini (dailynya) mirip2 chart zombie yang seolah2 
gampang bener di bolak balik sesukanya... dan kayanya napsuh bener mengejar 
supportnya.
 
Saya banyak mendapatkan pertanyaan gimana 
kira2 hari senin... Jujur saja saya rada bingung menjawab hal tersebut... 
karena secara pribadi saya memilih stay away dari huru hara yang sedang 
terjadi, hingga terbentuk base baru yang lbh kuat untuk nentuin arah dalam 
jangka pendeknya.
 
Namun sambil menunggu base nya terbentuk, range 
pergerakan JSX saat ini sangat luas dalam minor trendnya.. kemungkinan 
support Fibonancci spt yang pernah disebutkan oleh Eyang Ratman di 38.2% 
(kisaran 1.340 - 1.350-an) masih cukup kuat menahan kejatuhan market, Namun 
jgn lupa jg terdapat bullish rejection di level 1.500.
 
Buat yang emang nyangkut tapi gak rela cut 
loss, saran saya mendingan anda dedikasiin waktu anda utk melakukan apa aja 
selain memantau gerakan market.. karena akan ruin your days
 
Any other comments ??
 
Regards
 
Vibby
 
Disclaimer : Hanya bahan diskusi dan bersifat 
edukatif, tidak menyarankan untuk membeli atau menjual saham, resiko bagi 
yang nekad bukan urusan saya lho... dan jika ada pertanyaan lbh lanjut, 
mohon untuk melemparkan pertanyaan tersebut melalui forum milis (jgn 
Japri)  regards...
 
 
 
 




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on Macro View

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Santo Vibby






Wow... thx pak Gregorius..
 
Saya jadi melihat lebih jernih berkat chart anda.. 
neat..
 
Regards

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Gregorius 
  Sihombing 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on 
  Macro View
  
  Menyambung grafik Pak Vibby, akankah nantinya IHSG membentukl grafik 
  seperti ini?
   
  GS
   
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Santo Vibby 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:39 
PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on Macro 
View

Sambil iseng berdiskusi dengan salah seorang 
rekan (P'Sulung), beliau menanyakan tentang "Super Bear" yang muncul 
kemarin, setelah ngomong panjang lebar, kami membicarakan mengenai JSX dan 
Dow Teori yang sempet saya posting sebelumnya. Beliau hendak 
mengkonfirmasi analisa saya, dan malah jadinya dari beliau saya yang 
mendapatkan pengetahuan lbh dalam mengenai dow teori..
 
Perhatikan gbr terlampir, JSX membentuk sebuah 
Major Trend (Up) semenjak maret 2003, terbentuk hingga  minggu lalu.. Berdasarkan Dow Theory, dalam sebuah major 
trend, selalu terdapat 3 minor trend yang terjadi... Secara Makro terdapat 
garis Support dan garis Resisten yang kuat.  Jika memang ini merukan 
minor trend ke 3 yang terjadi.. maka, ...
 
dalam pembahasan KDT hari sabtu lalu 
oleh Eyang Ratman, maka memang terlihat ada kemungkinan JSX akan 
mencoba mengejar Gap yang blom tertutup di kisaran 1273-1282.. Hanya saja 
secara pribadi saya agak bingung menebak waktunya.. karena minor trend 
1&2 terjadi dalam timescale 5-7 bulan utk menyentuh support... sementara 
chart yg terbentuk saat ini (dailynya) mirip2 chart zombie yang seolah2 
gampang bener di bolak balik sesukanya... dan kayanya napsuh bener mengejar 
supportnya.
 
Saya banyak mendapatkan pertanyaan gimana 
kira2 hari senin... Jujur saja saya rada bingung menjawab hal tersebut... 
karena secara pribadi saya memilih stay away dari huru hara yang sedang 
terjadi, hingga terbentuk base baru yang lbh kuat untuk nentuin arah dalam 
jangka pendeknya.
 
Namun sambil menunggu base nya terbentuk, range 
pergerakan JSX saat ini sangat luas dalam minor trendnya.. kemungkinan 
support Fibonancci spt yang pernah disebutkan oleh Eyang Ratman di 38.2% 
(kisaran 1.340 - 1.350-an) masih cukup kuat menahan kejatuhan market, Namun 
jgn lupa jg terdapat bullish rejection di level 1.500.
 
Buat yang emang nyangkut tapi gak rela cut 
loss, saran saya mendingan anda dedikasiin waktu anda utk melakukan apa aja 
selain memantau gerakan market.. karena akan ruin your days
 
Any other comments ??
 
Regards
 
Vibby
 
Disclaimer : Hanya bahan diskusi dan bersifat 
edukatif, tidak menyarankan untuk membeli atau menjual saham, resiko bagi 
yang nekad bukan urusan saya lho... dan jika ada pertanyaan lbh lanjut, 
mohon untuk melemparkan pertanyaan tersebut melalui forum milis (jgn 
Japri)  regards...
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on Macro View

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Gregorius Sihombing

Menyambung grafik Pak Vibby, akankah nantinya IHSG membentukl grafik
seperti ini?
GS

- Original Message -
From:
Santo Vibby

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:39
PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on Macro
View

Sambil iseng berdiskusi dengan salah seorang
rekan (P'Sulung), beliau menanyakan tentang "Super Bear" yang muncul kemarin,
setelah ngomong panjang lebar, kami membicarakan mengenai JSX dan Dow Teori
yang sempet saya posting sebelumnya. Beliau hendak mengkonfirmasi analisa
saya, dan malah jadinya dari beliau saya yang mendapatkan pengetahuan lbh
dalam mengenai dow teori..
Perhatikan gbr terlampir, JSX membentuk sebuah
Major Trend (Up) semenjak maret 2003, terbentuk hingga minggu lalu.. Berdasarkan Dow Theory, dalam sebuah major
trend, selalu terdapat 3 minor trend yang terjadi... Secara Makro terdapat
garis Support dan garis Resisten yang kuat. Jika memang ini merukan
minor trend ke 3 yang terjadi.. maka, ...
dalam pembahasan KDT hari sabtu lalu
oleh Eyang Ratman, maka memang terlihat ada kemungkinan JSX akan
mencoba mengejar Gap yang blom tertutup di kisaran 1273-1282.. Hanya saja
secara pribadi saya agak bingung menebak waktunya.. karena minor trend 1&2
terjadi dalam timescale 5-7 bulan utk menyentuh support... sementara chart yg
terbentuk saat ini (dailynya) mirip2 chart zombie yang seolah2 gampang bener
di bolak balik sesukanya... dan kayanya napsuh bener mengejar
supportnya.
Saya banyak mendapatkan pertanyaan gimana
kira2 hari senin... Jujur saja saya rada bingung menjawab hal tersebut...
karena secara pribadi saya memilih stay away dari huru hara yang sedang
terjadi, hingga terbentuk base baru yang lbh kuat untuk nentuin arah dalam
jangka pendeknya.
Namun sambil menunggu base nya terbentuk, range
pergerakan JSX saat ini sangat luas dalam minor trendnya.. kemungkinan support
Fibonancci spt yang pernah disebutkan oleh Eyang Ratman di 38.2% (kisaran
1.340 - 1.350-an) masih cukup kuat menahan kejatuhan market, Namun jgn lupa jg
terdapat bullish rejection di level 1.500.
Buat yang emang nyangkut tapi gak rela cut loss,
saran saya mendingan anda dedikasiin waktu anda utk melakukan apa aja selain
memantau gerakan market.. karena akan ruin your days
Any other comments ??
Regards
Vibby
Disclaimer : Hanya bahan diskusi dan bersifat
edukatif, tidak menyarankan untuk membeli atau menjual saham, resiko bagi yang
nekad bukan urusan saya lho... dan jika ada pertanyaan lbh lanjut, mohon untuk
melemparkan pertanyaan tersebut melalui forum milis (jgn Japri)
regards...

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] JSX on Macro View

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Gregorius Sihombing

Menyambung grafik Pak Vibby, akankah nantinya IHSG membentukl grafik
seperti ini?
GS

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Emas Drop

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Heru D K






emas mau ke harga brp ya ? *pemula 
yang mau invest di emas nih.

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  Iffan Suryanto 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Emas 
  Drop
  
  NOT THIS TIME
  
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Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:43 
PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Emas 
Drop
harga emas drop ke 637 dari 700, perkiraan dollar bakal 
menguat inflasi turun ..BESOK REBOUND 
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Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ALERT!!!!

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Iffan Suryanto






Kalo yg ini AYE SETUJU :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  feter 
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  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:10 PM
  Subject: RE: Balasan: Re: 
  [obrolan-bandar] ALERT
  
  
  Jangan takut friends, 
  siapin peluru yg banyak, kalau sampai tembus di sekitar 1,250 -1,280, kita 
  beli saham Blue Chips, tidur nyenyak deh, biarin die naik turun, 
  
  Setuju 
  teman?
  
   
  
  
  
  
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  ALERT
   
  Ini sih bukan cuci gudang g, tp udah cuci 
  darahhehe.--- James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  menulis:> Boss ... JSX sudah leading duluan kok -1.9%> 
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RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ALERT!!!!

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik feter











Jangan takut friends, siapin peluru yg
banyak, kalau sampai tembus di sekitar 1,250 -1,280, kita beli saham Blue
Chips, tidur nyenyak deh, biarin die naik turun, 

Setuju teman?



 











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Ini sih bukan cuci gudang
g, tp udah cuci darah
hehe.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Emas Drop

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Iffan Suryanto






NOT THIS TIME

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dodik S 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:43 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Emas Drop
  harga emas drop ke 637 dari 700, perkiraan dollar bakal menguat 
  inflasi turun ..BESOK REBOUND !!!




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Iseng2 daripada bengong lihat kebakaran di BEJ....

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik SETAN BEJ




Kalau saya bandingkan grafik BMRI dengan TLKM dan PGAS, terlihat bahwa titik dimulainya Index terjerembab turun adalah saat dimana persentase kenaikan BMRI lebih besar dari TLKM dan PGAS. Mungkinkah ini menjawab pertanyaan Pak Oentoeng penutup kenaikan Index adalah BMRI ?  Harga BMRI saat ini sudah meluncur ke harga 1 bulan yang lalu. Apakah tanda alam untuk Index beranjak naik lagi ?  Kerja keras buat BOZZ untuk mengangkat Index ke 1500 ? atau lebih tinggi lagi ?
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[obrolan-bandar] Emas Drop

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Dodik S




harga emas drop ke 637 dari 700, perkiraan dollar bakal menguat inflasi 
turun ..

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Buku

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik darwin henri




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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ALERT!!!!

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Deddy

hehehe kayak begiini kemana bandar kita mr oentong? apa lagi sibuk 
beli???apa lagi sibuk cut loss? apa lagi rugi? 

mr oentoeng, lagi ngapain nih, ntar kalo index dah plus 100an jgn 
bilang dah beli yah hhahhehaeh

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melorot..
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ALERT!!!!

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Marjan Syah




1250 kayanya pak.. level 1300 kurang kuat.. hiks2.. saya kira cuma main2 doang ke 1350 dan abis itu balik lagi ke 1500an.. taunya malah melorot..





  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ALERT!!!!

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik Deddy




kelihatannya index mau ketemu sama medium uptrendline di sekitar 1295-
1300an. kalo break down BAHAYA!!


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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ALERT!!!!

2006-05-22 Terurut Topik www.titan




tu Boss Rony udah kasih clue,
katanya abis piala Dunia 
hehe...
relax..
Stay put..


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