Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JSX Monthly Candle

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik Santo Vibby





Dear P' Tangkas
 
Based on chart yang dikirim, kliatannya IDR emang 
lagi ketahan di support 1 nya ya pak, S2 nya di 9000 mungkin akan dijajal 
sebentar, Di chart tersebut jg terdapat pennant pak, kalo support nya kuat mnrt 
saya sih  kemungkinan besar akan kembali melemah ke 9500, Tapi 
kalo supportnya jebol.. ya targetnya IDR menguat ke 8600-8700 
pak 
 
Salam 
 
Vibby
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  tangkas 
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 12:58 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JSX 
  Monthly Candle
  
  Vibby Konfirmasi dg IDR apakah ke 9400/9500 lagi atau ke 8800
  Pergerakan IHSG ngikut IDR...Attch IDR Weekly Chart
   
  Salam
  TANGKAS
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: JSX Monthly Candle

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik Santo Vibby





Aih P' Sudes ngetes neh hehe
 
 
Ok pertama mari kita perhatikan 
chart daily ..
 

 
 
 
Jika kita perhatikan pola candle tgl 25 
dan 27, buat saya itu merupakan sinyal triggered utk masuk ke market, namun 
penutupan Jumat lalu gerakannya tertahan di resist symetrical trianglenya, 
sehingga belum memberikan konfirmasi utk continuation pattern bagi bull utk 
melanjutkan rallynya.. dan candle dengan body yang kecil spt itu menunjukkan 
bahwa kekuatan bulls tidak begitu besar (atau ragu2)  Jika ntar senin 
ternyata dia break out dengan volume yang gede dan ditutup diatas 1.355, maka 
target akan menuju ke 1499, dan jangan sampai ketinggalan kereta.
 
Tapi jika dia pull back untuk 
melanjutkan konsolidasinya, maka hati2 jika dia break out support.
 
 
Ok kedua jika, kita 
perhatikan chart weeklynya.. maka terdapat pola hammer yang blom 
dapet ijin utk triggered sinyal masuk.. artinya kita memang disuruh nonton 
dulu.. dan sabar jangan keburu napsuh..
 
Ketiga, utk chart monthlynya 
..   JKSE sedang berada di area level supportnya.. utk 
long termnya kemungkinan akan bulish dalam area konsolidasinya, Based on monthly 
chartnya, meskipun terdapat hammer, walaupun udah disuruh siap-siap, tapi buat 
saya pribadi masih blom confirmed utk masuk dulu pak sudes.. hehehe.. 
penjelasannya ada di Buku saya tuh (promosi nih yeee)
 
 
Regards
 
Vibby
 
 
 
 
 

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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 4:44 PM
  Subject: [junior_Trader] JSX Monthly 
  Candle
  
  
  
   
  tinggal 1 
  hari lagi, maka bulan July berakhirlah sudah..hmm..Pak Vibby, menurut anda, candle stick bulanan index 
  kita bagaimana yah? ^^ thanx a lot! 
  ^^
  
 

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[obrolan-bandar] [SoftCopy Buku] How I Made 2 Million In The Stock Market

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik masih_belajar saham



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2006-07-28 Terurut Topik masih_belajar saham



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[obrolan-bandar] [SoftCopy Buku] Steve Nison - Beyond Candlesticks

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik masih_belajar saham



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[obrolan-bandar] [SoftCopy Buku] Steve Nison - The Candlestick Course

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik masih_belajar saham



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[obrolan-bandar] Re: H1 RESULT publication : EQUALITY for INFORMATION

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik ihsg_up
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
>mbah ada pake RSS FEED gak? program yg buat menampung news yg 
berextention RSS ?
> Musim lap keuangan for FIRST HALF (H1) sudah DATANG:
> 
> Pagi ini IKLAN hasil lap BDMN di koran Investor daily, 
> net profitnya terkapar
> 
> Analisa tentang lap keuangan Bank (BNGA, BDMN, BNII) ada 
> di Kompas pagi ini...
> 
> Note:
> Analis dikoran Kompas bisa dapet result BDMN sebelum iklan
> result BDMN dikoran DI keluar pagi ini. Apakah ini menunjukan
> INEQUALITY FOR INFORMATION bagi investor ?
> 
> Bagaimana mendapatkan INFO TERPAGI tentang lap emiten yang
> dipublikasikan ?.
>







 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BLTA

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik ihsg up



BLTA mempunyai muatan bahan2 kimia yg mana byk beredar ke luar negri.  BLTA akan listing jg disingapur, berapa harga listingnya di singapur saya jg gak tau.  Sehingga saya mempunyai opini bahwa BLTA mampu bertahan.  apa opini saya kurang tepat ?  Marjan Syah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Kalau dilihat hari ini dari RTI, beberapa emiten pelayaran mengeluarkan laporan keuangan 1H 2006. Net profit beberapa emiten sbb:  APOL   74M VS 92M
 (-20%)  SMDR  39M VS 191M (-80%)  Menurut analisa saya, kinerja emiten yang mempunyai exposure ke pelayanan domestiknya tinggi terpukul karena fee paa tahun 2006 turun rata2 sekitar 50% dibandingkan tahun lalu karena persaingan harga yang ketat diantara perusahaan lokal.      Di lain pihak, beberapa emiten lainnya belum mengeluarkan laporan keuangannya seperti TMAS dan BLTA. Saya memperkirakan untuk TMAS nasibnya tidak jauh berbeda dengan kedua perusahaan pelayaran diatas karena coverage pelayanan domestiknya tinggi. Sedangkan untuk BLTA ada kemungkinan lain ceritanya karena coverage pelayanan domestiknya hanya 25%, sedangkan sisanya adalah luar negeri. Ditambah lagi tarif angkutan kapal kimia untuk pelayanan internasional relatif naik pada tahun ini.      Kita lihat saja pengumuman laporan keuangan yang diperkirakan akan keluar dalam waktu dekat.     Ini hanya
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] OB smakin OCe.....Re: Kuasa bandar

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik Jayamudita





Wauw, apakah tidak salah TABUNGAN anak buat sekolah 
digunakan untuk berSPEKULASI di pasar modal? Untuk diinvestasikan saja kurang 
tepat, bagaimana kalau terjadi kerugian besar? Tabungan, spekulasi dan investasi 
adalah 3 hal yang sama sekali berbeda!
 
Akhir tahun lalu saya menyaksikan seseorang yang 
menangis karena menempatkan TABUNGANnya (menabung untuk membayar uang muka beli 
rumah) di reksadana yang hilang 30% lebih dalam sehari.
 
Salam,
 
Tommy Jayamudita
 
 

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  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:01 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] OB smakin 
  OCe.Re: Kuasa bandar
  
  
  
  Wah dengan kehadiran pak Fredrick, warungnya embah tambah T.O.P 
  neh...warna-warni..., kalo bisa pak Frederick bawa temen2 pemain besarnya 
  ke warung :)
   
  Sambil nunggu konsolidasi, bisa nanya ttg PTBA, gimana view bapak dlm 
  jangka pendek dan panjang ?, soale tabungan anak buat sekolah disini pak
   
   
  Tengkyu...Frederick Schubert  
  wrote:
  
hehehehehehehenice...
pemainbesar "could mean" besar badannya atau secara financial emang 
manage fund diatas 3t atau emang cuma besar omongnya doang
hehehe...hopefully aku yang baik2nya aja
cuma ngingetin...telkom mau laporan keuangan semester 1 hari 
senin...net profit kayaknya naik diatas 18%...so beli sekarang jual 
selasa..? 
disclaimer ah...
cheers
oentoeng_q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com> 
wrote:

  
  Intinya Pak Frederick..Supaya tidak terkesan "Obralan 
  Bandar".Mumpung market sepi/konsolidasi kita ngramein milis sendiri 
  khan bagus juga.Gimana pengalaman Bapak tentang "Pemain Besar" 
  yang lainnya?--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
  Frederick Schubert ...> wrote:>> 
  > bukan apa-apa> milis tercinta ini kan obrolan 
  bandar...jadi yang ngobrol disini bandar semua kan?> masa 
  bandar makan bandar...> atau masa bandar yang satu gak tau bandar 
  yang lain lagi ngapain..hehehehehehehehe> 
  cheers> ratmanard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Betul sekali 
  bandar-bandar bisa membagi-bagi hadiah bagi mereke yang > bisa 
  mengikuti/mencermati gerakan-gerakan mereka.> Mimpi kalau 
  bandar sampai ngikuti kita> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
  Kaisar > wrote:> >> > Bukannya 
  malah bagus Pak.. Bandar lagi bagi2 hadiah..> > > > 
  Soeratman Doerachman  wrote: Hanya dalam > waktu 
  satu setengah menit SP mengguyur PGAS pada tgl 27 Juli.> > 
  Berapa banyak para pengecer menjadi korban?> > > > 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BLTA

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik ihsg up



iya, menyusul mas.tapi bukannya menyusul ampe ke 1350. saya rasa blta ngejaga performa mesinnya buat ngalahin apol.coba perhatiin apol yg dlm sehari bisa dp 13 point namun hari ini jg turun drastis, ya memang karna banyak yg jualan sebab harganya dah tinggi kan?  so, turun pun jg byk. akhirnya bisa dibilang performanya gak ok.  BLTA, selalu menjaga naik turun range harganya. padahal harga BLTA dah bisa dibilang tinggi kan mas?  tapi kenapa gak bayak yg jualan jika harganya tinggi?   konsolidasi saya rasa.menyusun kekuatan dulu sebelum ngegeber mesin kapalnya ke garis finish (2080) dan meninggalkan apol.diatas kertas apol memang dibawah blta  apol = 1350  blta = 1780  eps quarteran antara apol dan blta jg kaya org lg balapan (susul-susulan).  jadi intinya, setelah kekuatan tersusun blta bakal ngegeber mesinnya habis2an ke garis finish dan ninggalin apol yg dah turun performanya
 karna dah ngegeber duluan tapi sayang mesinnya kurang kuat tuh apol.  coba liat binari wave triger, binary wave stochastick, aroon up and down (12hari), binary wave all composite wave of above, -DI dan +DI (12 hari) dan mana yg bagus garis2nya ?pasti BLTA. tolong dikoreksi lg tulisan saya ini jika ada kesalahan didlm menganalisa performa mesin kedua kapal ini.  mungkin lebih bagus kita tanya kebengkel aja kali ya mas ;-) hehehehe  yg penting sesuai dg extentiont nama belakang kita mas yaitu UP, UP, UP  UP terus deh...up_trends <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  saya gak ngerti yg anda bilang blta ngebalap apol. ngebalap=menyusul. blta menyusul apol?= blta turun ke 1380 lagi???--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ihsg up <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> ya, harganya memang dah tinggi tapi coba anda perhatikan harga sekarang, sekarang apol turunnya jauh kebawah sedang blta turunnya 3 point. saya curiga ada pembentukan harga baru menuju 2080.> semoga ada koreksi lg dari anda terhadap tulisan saya ini.> > > up_trends <[EMAIL PROTECTED]..> wrote:> blta ngebalap apol??? blta harganya dah
 lebih tinggi harganya? > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ihsg up  wrote:> >> > Sepertinya kapal BLTA bakal ngebalap kapal APOL ditikungan karna ada > tikungan yg bagus didepannya untuk ngebalap APOL.hehehehe> > apa BLTA bisa kaya mark webber ya yg jago ditikungan ;-)> > > > > > > > -> > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great > rates starting at 1¢/min.> >> > > > > > > -> Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tanya harga listing BLTA di Singapore

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik rivan man



permisi Eyang,Senior dan Embah.Contruction mohon Eyang Embah dan para Senior petunjuknya? thanks     God Bless U  RvnMarjan Syah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi.. ada prospek apa di BLTA? kalau saya akan menjauhi sektor perkapalan untuk sementara.. melihat laporan keuangan beberapa emiten yang keluar hari ini kelihatannya prospeknya untuk tahun ini kurang bagus.     Rgds,  MJ  
 On 7/27/06, bettina.tan  wrote:   Apakah ada yang tahu berapa kira-kira harga listing saham BLTA di Singapore? Saya mendengar rumor tentang analisa bahwa saham yang akan ditawarkan sekitar 700jt-800jt lembar saham dengan harga antara USD .25-.30 per lembar saham. Ada yang bisa konfirmasi? TerimakasihTina   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PNBN- Warrant?

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik Marjan Syah



Waduh.. seperti sinetron.. ini namanya PNBN 2, kemaren stok lagi numpuk & belon sempet cuci gudang.. eh keburu indeksnya turun, padahal pengikutnya udah lumayan banyak ya pak?
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Terimakasih pak atas infonya...Kalau anda nebus Warrant di 400 itu namanya KELAMAAN; keburu BD-nya ngacirBNGA-W saja sudah banyak yang ngacir.Yang saya bilang Right-nya bisa anda tebus di 350 untuk mencari CUAN 
di gap selisih harga.Saya mohon maaf sebanyak2nya buat pihak2 yang selama ini sudah merasakan nikmatnya gap tersebut. Demi "pembelajaran" bahwa main saham kadang2 harus JELI.Sekalian nge-TES apakah memang benar milis OB saat ini sedang 
jadi "perhatian" para BOZZ.Regards--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Pak oentoeng, harga tebus PNBN-W adalah 400 bukan 350.>

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tanya harga listing BLTA di Singapore

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik Marjan Syah



Hi.. ada prospek apa di BLTA? kalau saya akan menjauhi sektor perkapalan untuk sementara.. melihat laporan keuangan beberapa emiten yang keluar hari ini kelihatannya prospeknya untuk tahun ini kurang bagus.
 
Rgds,
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Apakah ada yang tahu berapa kira-kira harga listing saham BLTA di Singapore? Saya mendengar rumor tentang analisa bahwa saham yang akan ditawarkan sekitar 700jt-800jt lembar saham dengan harga antara USD .25-.30 per lembar saham. Ada yang bisa konfirmasi?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fund Managers Cautious Over Geopolitical Issues

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik Marjan Syah



Nice article Pak Oentoeng.. Saya lagi window shopping nih pak di BEJ, belum ambil keputusan. Tapi saya melihat secara umum trend kembali ke sektor telekomunikasi, plantation dan migas. Saya menjauhi dulu pertambangan yang bersinar tahun lalu. Pak oentoeng sendiri apakah ada rekomendasi untuk tahun ini. Menarik malihat beberapa emiten yang net profitnya off the peak tahun ini dan beberapa yang justru sebaliknya. Waiting for your aggressive posting..

 
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[obrolan-bandar] Data Metastock 28/07/2006

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik Fillisya Chiunardy



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Invitation to mBah

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik Cubit Aja





Wadoh invitation-nya kan untuk embah bukan anggota 
milis hehehe.
Kalo beli bukunya pasti boleh dong, mana nggak 
mahal lagi.
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:53 PM
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Invitation 
  to mBah
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Ini undangan liwat milis, jadi apakah 
  miliser yang lain juga bisa / boleh datang ?? 
  Apakah juga bisa beli buku candle stick 
  nya santo vibby ?? 
  Gimana ya  
  A3K
  --- Soeratman Doerachman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]id> 
  wrote:> Dear Mbah Jsx (the Owner of this Milis)> > 
  > > I do not know you personally but I respect you a lot> 
  > Through this email I cordially invite you to attend> our Club 
  Anniversary> which will be held at:>> Day : Friday, July 
  28th, 2006> Time : 19:00 - 21:00 PM> Place : Hotel Alila, Jl 
  Pecenongan> Jakarta> > Some VIP 
  from JSX will be there.> > I would be very grateful if you can 
  spend your> valuable time to attend the> event> > 
  > > > > Best Regards> > 
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[obrolan-bandar] Fund Managers Cautious Over Geopolitical Issues

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Fund Managers Cautious Over Geopolitical Issues 
International fund managers are confident over the long-term 
prospects of equities, but are recommending that investors stay 
cautious in the coming weeks as geopolitical issues could keep a lid 
on gains. 

28 July 2006  
 
HONG KONG (Dow Jones)--International fund managers are confident 
over the long-term prospects of equities worldwide, but are 
nevertheless recommending that investors stay cautious in the coming 
weeks as geopolitical issues could keep a lid on gains. 

Fund managers suggest on average a slight overweight on equities 
globally, unchanged since April, the latest monthly Dow Jones 
Newswires survey shows. They suggest moving to neutral on cash from 
a slight overweight last month, and are keeping their full 
underweight recommendation for bonds. 

A potential slowdown in global economic growth, stemming from rising 
U.S. inflation and interest rates, has been largely factored into 
share prices, they say, which should lessen the possibility of a new 
selloff in equities. 

Economic concerns have been replaced, for the meantime, by worries 
over geopolitical events that tend to prolong market consolidation, 
such as Israel's incursion into Lebanon, Iran's nuclear ambitions, 
and the recent North Korean missile tests. 

JF Asset Management, which manages around US$500 billion worldwide, 
believes investors "should ignore all the noise and stay focused on 
the underlying fundamentals" but acknowledges that it's still too 
early to aggressively add riskier assets, such as emerging market 
shares or non-investment grade bonds. "Markets remain vulnerable to 
bad news," the fund manager said. 

Within a global equities portfolio, fund managers continue to favor 
European and Japanese shares and avoid non-Asian emerging markets. 
On average, they suggest a full overweight on European and Japanese 
shares and a slight underweight in non-Asian emerging markets. 

"European equities are benefitting from an increase in mergers and 
acquisition activity, outsourcing, and restructuring efforts by 
companies," says Standard Life Investment, which manages around 
GBP120 billion worldwide. 

The positive long-term outlook for Japanese shares is supported by 
improving economic data, including stronger employment and 
consumption, Standard Life Investment says. 

Each month, Dow Jones Newswires surveys fund managers on portfolio 
weighting recommendations for the succeeding months, with most 
looking at a 12-month horizon. July's survey was taken over the past 
10 days. 

The respondents for this month's survey were Allianz Global 
Investors, Credit Agricole Asset Management, First State 
Investments, Henderson Global Investors, HSBC Halbis Partners, JF 
Asset Management, Manulife Funds Direct, Schroder Investment 
Management, and Standard Life Investments, and UBS Asset Management. 

 
   
Outlook Improves for Thailand & India  
 
Within Asia-Pacific, the fund managers' outlook has improved for 
Thailand, Malaysia and India and deteriorated for South Korea. 

On average, the fund managers suggest moving to neutral in Thailand, 
Malaysia and India from a slight underweight last month. They 
suggest the opposite for South Korea. 

Fund managers believe that Thailand is in store for some welcome 
political stability following King Bhumibol Adulyadej's surprise 
Friday endorsement of a decree that paves the way for fresh general 
elections on Oct. 15. The country has been led by a caretaker 
government since parliament was dissolved in February, ahead of 
April elections that were later annulled. 

"Thailand is the cheapest market in the region on most valuation 
parameters," says Nicholas Brooks, London-based senior economist at 
Henderson Global Investors, which manages around US$150 million 
worldwide. 

Analysts estimate the average price-earnings ratio of Thai shares at 
around nine times forecast 2007 earnings. 

Malaysia is attracting attention because of its improving economic 
growth momentum. The country's gross domestic product expanded by a 
faster-than-expected 5.3% in the first quarter from a year earlier, 
driven by stronger manufacturing and agriculture output. 

Fund managers who shunned India in May and June due to high share 
price valuations are starting to come back, as increasing corporate 
capital spending and a good monsoon season are expected to boost the 
overall economy, says Gregor Logan, London-based deputy chief 
investment officer at New Star Global Investment Funds, which 
manages around US$31 billion worldwide. 

Concerns over global demand for technology products continue to 
hound South Korea. 

"Despite cheap valuations, the (South Korean) market could remain in 
a trading range in the very short-term," says HSBC Halbis Partners, 
which manages around US$270 billion in assets worldwide together 
with three other investment management units of HSBC Holdings PLC 
(HBC). 

Singapore is still the fund managers' top pick in the

[obrolan-bandar] OB smakin OCe.....Re: Kuasa bandar

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik dera ayu



Wah dengan kehadiran pak Fredrick, warungnya embah tambah T.O.P neh...warna-warni..., kalo bisa pak Frederick bawa temen2 pemain besarnya ke warung :)     Sambil nunggu konsolidasi, bisa nanya ttg PTBA, gimana view bapak dlm jangka pendek dan panjang ?, soale tabungan anak buat sekolah disini pak        Tengkyu...Frederick Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:hehehehehehehenice...  pemainbesar "could mean" besar badannya atau secara financial emang manage fund diatas 3t atau emang cuma besar omongnya doang  hehehe...hopefully aku yang baik2nya aja  cuma ngingetin...telkom mau laporan keuangan semester 1 hari senin...net profit kayaknya naik diatas 18%...so beli sekarang jual selasa..?  
 disclaimer ah...  cheers  oentoeng_q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Intinya Pak Frederick..Supaya tidak terkesan "Obralan Bandar".Mumpung market sepi/konsolidasi kita ngramein milis sendiri khan bagus juga.Gimana pengalaman Bapak tentang "Pemain Besar" yang lainnya?--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert ...> wrote:>> > bukan apa-apa> milis tercinta ini kan obrolan bandar...jadi yang ngobrol disini bandar semua kan?> masa bandar makan bandar...> atau masa bandar yang satu gak tau bandar yang lain lagi ngapain..hehehehehehehehe> cheers> ratmanard
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Betul sekali bandar-bandar bisa membagi-bagi hadiah bagi mereke yang > bisa mengikuti/mencermati gerakan-gerakan mereka.> Mimpi kalau bandar sampai ngikuti kita> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kaisar > wrote:> >> > Bukannya malah bagus Pak.. Bandar lagi bagi2 hadiah..> > > > Soeratman Doerachman  wrote: Hanya dalam > waktu satu setengah menit SP mengguyur PGAS pada tgl 27 Juli.> > Berapa banyak para pengecer menjadi korban?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -> > Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy > changes to Yahoo! Groups.> >> >
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Invitation to mBah

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik A3K


















 

Ini undangan liwat milis, jadi apakah miliser yang lain juga bisa /
boleh datang ?? 

Apakah juga bisa beli buku candle stick nya santo vibby ?? 

Gimana ya  A3K








--- Soeratman Doerachman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]id>
wrote:

> Dear Mbah Jsx (the Owner of this Milis)
> 
> 
> 
> I do not know you personally but I respect you a lot
> 
> Through this email I cordially invite you to attend
> our Club Anniversary
> which will be held at:
>
> Day : Friday, July 28th, 2006
> Time : 19:00 - 21:00 PM
> Place : Hotel Alila, Jl Pecenongan
> Jakarta
> 
> Some VIP from JSX will be there.
> 
> I would be very grateful if you can spend your
> valuable time to attend the
> event
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Soeratman
> 
> J-Club
> 






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[obrolan-bandar] A P O L

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik The Ovie



baru saja saya dengar RUPSLB APOL menyetujui dua agenda yang dibahas; rencana stock split dan pembelian kapalmohon pada para senior rekomendasinya. apakah harga sekarang sudah bisa masuk.thx 
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[obrolan-bandar] Tipuan ala Ronaldinho

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik Rony Santoso





Beberapa waktu lalu 
TLKM diteken dan dibuat flat tetapi banyak saham yang naik
 
Hari ini beberapa 
saham LQ45 turun tapi TLKM dibuat naik untuk dongkrak IHSG.
 
Hati2 
dengan gocekan ala Ronaldinho
 
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kuasa bandar

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Tenno Tinodo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Cuma mau tanya sama teman-2x di market.  Transaksi seperti di bawah 
ini 
> lazim digunakan ngga?  Maksudnya buy dari broker A kemudian sell 
dari broker 
> C pada suatu hari yang sama mungkin ngga di netting?
> Obrolan saya dengan beberapa broker ragu-2x untuk transaksi tsb saat 
> settlement-nya.  Takutnya flow eksekusi settlement di ksei, 
transaksi yang 
> pertama kali dieksekusi adalah transaksi jualnya.
> 
> Ada yg pernah transaksi netting dalam suatu hari pada 2 broker yang 
berbeda?
> 
> trims,
>
Saya jawab BISA.
Broker anda ragu2 mungkin karena belon pernah melayani "Mekanisme 
Transaksi Bandar".
Singkatnya adalah BD pasti punya barang LEBIH BANYAK dari yang 
ditransaksikan. Tetapi sebenarnya pertanyaan anda lebih bicara MOTIF.
Sedangkan motif bandar yang juga manusia pasti bermacam2.
Contoh untuk meramaikan pasar, memperkenalkan saham PEGANGANNYA, 
supaya nanti kalau hari H trader tidak terkaget2 bahkan bisa ikut 
Trading di saham tersebut, dll
Contoh mudah: Perhatikan berapa lama SULI melakukan PERKENALAN 
(konsolidasi)?
Sekarang ada BD yang sedang dalam perkenalan saham property X, kalau 
anda JELI pasti bisa menunjukkan.
Bicara TA mungkin bisa dikategorikan "Building Volume".







 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: BLTA

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik up_trends
saya gak ngerti yg anda bilang blta ngebalap apol. ngebalap=menyusul. 
blta menyusul apol?= blta turun ke 1380 lagi???

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> ya, harganya memang dah tinggi tapi coba anda perhatikan harga 
sekarang, sekarang apol turunnya jauh kebawah sedang blta turunnya 3 
point. saya curiga ada pembentukan harga baru menuju 2080.
>   semoga ada koreksi lg dari anda terhadap tulisan saya ini.
>   
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>   blta ngebalap apol??? blta harganya dah lebih tinggi 
harganya? 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ihsg up  wrote:
> >
> > Sepertinya kapal BLTA bakal ngebalap kapal APOL ditikungan karna 
ada 
> tikungan yg bagus didepannya untuk ngebalap APOL.hehehehe
> > apa BLTA bisa kaya mark webber ya yg jago ditikungan ;-)
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kuasa bandar

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert



hehehehehehehenice...  pemainbesar "could mean" besar badannya atau secara financial emang manage fund diatas 3t atau emang cuma besar omongnya doang  hehehe...hopefully aku yang baik2nya aja  cuma ngingetin...telkom mau laporan keuangan semester 1 hari senin...net profit kayaknya naik diatas 18%...so beli sekarang jual selasa..?   disclaimer ah...  cheers  oentoeng_q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Intinya Pak Frederick..Supaya
 tidak terkesan "Obralan Bandar".Mumpung market sepi/konsolidasi kita ngramein milis sendiri khan bagus juga.Gimana pengalaman Bapak tentang "Pemain Besar" yang lainnya?--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert ...> wrote:>> > bukan apa-apa> milis tercinta ini kan obrolan bandar...jadi yang ngobrol disini bandar semua kan?> masa bandar makan bandar...> atau masa bandar yang satu gak tau bandar yang lain lagi ngapain..hehehehehehehehe> cheers> ratmanard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Betul sekali bandar-bandar bisa membagi-bagi hadiah bagi mereke yang > bisa mengikuti/mencermati gerakan-gerakan mereka.> Mimpi kalau bandar sampai ngikuti kita> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kaisar > wrote:> >> > Bukannya malah bagus Pak.. Bandar lagi bagi2 hadiah..> > > > Soeratman Doerachman  wrote: Hanya dalam > waktu satu setengah menit SP mengguyur PGAS pada tgl 27 Juli.> > Berapa banyak para pengecer menjadi korban?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -> > Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy > changes to Yahoo! Groups.> >> > > > > > > -> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kuasa bandar

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Intinya Pak Frederick..
Supaya tidak terkesan "Obralan Bandar".
Mumpung market sepi/konsolidasi kita ngramein milis sendiri khan 
bagus juga.
Gimana pengalaman Bapak tentang "Pemain Besar" yang lainnya?

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> 
> bukan apa-apa
>   milis tercinta ini kan obrolan bandar...jadi yang ngobrol disini 
bandar semua kan?
>   masa bandar makan bandar...
>   atau masa bandar yang satu gak tau bandar yang lain lagi 
ngapain..hehehehehehehehe
>   cheers
> ratmanard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Betul sekali bandar-bandar bisa membagi-bagi hadiah bagi 
mereke yang 
> bisa mengikuti/mencermati gerakan-gerakan mereka.
> Mimpi kalau bandar sampai ngikuti kita
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kaisar  wrote:
> >
> > Bukannya malah bagus Pak.. Bandar lagi bagi2 hadiah..
> > 
> > Soeratman Doerachman  wrote: Hanya dalam 
> waktu satu setengah menit SP mengguyur PGAS pada tgl 27 Juli.
> > Berapa banyak para pengecer menjadi korban?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kuasa bandar

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert



bukan apa-apa  milis tercinta ini kan obrolan bandar...jadi yang ngobrol disini bandar semua kan?  masa bandar makan bandar...  atau masa bandar yang satu gak tau bandar yang lain lagi ngapain..hehehehehehehehe  cheersratmanard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Betul sekali bandar-bandar bisa membagi-bagi hadiah bagi mereke yang bisa mengikuti/mencermati gerakan-gerakan mereka.Mimpi kalau bandar sampai ngikuti kita--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kaisar ...> wrote:>> Bukannya malah bagus Pak.. Bandar lagi bagi2 hadiah..> > Soeratman Doerachman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hanya dalam waktu satu setengah menit SP mengguyur PGAS pada tgl 27 Juli.> Berapa banyak para pengecer menjadi korban?> > > > > > > > > -> Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.> 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kuasa bandar

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
> Apakah anda BISA:
> - Menebak si BOZZ lagi ngapain ?
Hampir TIDAK BISA Mbah. 
Kalau sudah "ngintip" Planned Agenda saya JANJIKAN bisa menjawab.
dengan syarat personal atau gerombolan yang sedang saya intip.
Yang jelas KERAHASIAAN bagi Big Player apalagi bandar adalah PENTING!
Apalagi kita semua Traderharusnya perilaku Trader as PEDAGANG 
(bukan sebagai orang yg suka trading) adalah berprinsip:
" Bilang mau ke Utara padahal mau ke Selatan"
Contoh mudah: Kalau lagi ngincer barang bagus, TAWAR SAJA kalau 
perlu dijelek2-in, tujuannya dapet barang bagus kalau bisa harga 
bagus. Coba kalau JUJUR bilang bagus??? pasti jadi REBUTAN orang 
bahkan HARGA akan NAIK.

> - Apakah broker yang dapet order BELI atau JUAL, bisa dapet
>   keuntungan dengan ikut maen ICIP-ICIP ?.
Bisa Mbah...
Kalau order itu memang GEDHE. Misal ada BD yang dapet "bocoran" dari 
broker kalau ada ORDER BUY/SELL dengan range mis: 1000-1250. 
Kalau KETINGGIAN disuruh untuk NURUNIN lagi; selama proses ORDER.
Jadi kita tahu range ORDER tersebut, so...ICIP2 bisa DILAKUKAN
Pengalaman sudah pernah membuktikan Mbah bahkan sering...

> - Apakah anda bisa menebak sebelum PERMAINAN selesai ?.
Kalau tidak kenal dengan para PELAKU sangat SULIT.
Tapi saya suka menganalisa orang/saham berdasar ANALISA PERILAKU.
Kayak meng-analisa "pacar/istri kalau dia begitu pasti mau ini"
Hehehe...

> - Si BOZZ diwakili oleh puluhan BROKER, NEVER assume broker C
>   or BLAME broker C sebagai BANDAR !!! This is ABSURD
Benar sekali mbah...
Makanya saya dari dulu tidak pernah tunjuk hidung broker mana saja 
yang sering digunakan oleh BD tertEntu bahkan BOZZ.
Tetapi dari teknik yang sering dipakai saya bisa "merasakan" kira2 
mana yang dipakai, dan yang main MODEL begini SIAPA?
 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_q"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Yang jelas oentoeng-nya adalah bandar yang KETITIPAN ORDER JUAL.
> > - Kalau kreatif ikut MAIN
> > - Yang pasti dapet KOMISI
> > ha5X...
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > kasihan bandardisalahin mulu. kalau harga naik semua 
lari 
> > ke fundamental...kalau turun...bandar yang salah...padahal 
bandar 
> > juga manusia...perlu uang mendadak jugahehehehehehehehehe
> > > 
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> > >   Berapa banyak para pengecer menjadi korban?
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