RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon
Jacky Chen emang paling jago loncat yah... What a happy day today untuk yang out last Fri From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:17:35 - Jacky Chen udah naek lagi +4%... _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon
ADA yang JAGO dengan INTERMARKET - ANALYSYS GLOBAL market DOWN DJIA overcast bin mendung oleh GREENSPAN's R word - bisa jadi ribbon Phillipines niru Shanghai, KLSE 2 hari berturut UDAH turun 3% INDONESIA perkasa karena si PITUNG gerilya Bisakah si PITUNG jadi BUNGKARNOHATTA dan memerdekakan JKSE dari rayuan-rayuan other regional bargain ADA yang sudah BELAJAR INTERMARKET ANALYSYShh atau perlu TT? Jacky Chen emang paling jago loncat yah... What a happy day today untuk yang out last Fri From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:17:35 - Jacky Chen udah naek lagi +4%... _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710
Hari ini JCI turning dari lowest level dengan support kuat terlihat di 50% retracement level di 1700. Sempat turun sekitar 5 % dan sekarang tinggal - 1.8%. Sudah naik sekitar 3 % dari lowest hari ini. Shanghai naik 3.94% pada penutupan hari ini dan bursa asia lainnya menunjukkan trend yang meningkat di akhir perdagangan hari ini. Bagaimana besok menurut perkiraan para suhu?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon
Tsunami kedua sebelum rebound dimulai lagi...15:10 On 2/28/07, Sunowo Dwijanarko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jacky Chen emang paling jago loncat yah... What a happy day today untuk yang out last Fri From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]jsx-consultant%40centrin.net.id Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:17:35 - Jacky Chen udah naek lagi +4%... __ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon
Ini kayaknya mirip kejadian waktu SET thailand turun 7%-an tapi exposure-nya lebih gede karena much bigger cap From: dfaj21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:07:37 - ADA yang JAGO dengan INTERMARKET - ANALYSYS GLOBAL market DOWN DJIA overcast bin mendung oleh GREENSPAN's R word - bisa jadi ribbon Phillipines niru Shanghai, KLSE 2 hari berturut UDAH turun 3% INDONESIA perkasa karena si PITUNG gerilya Bisakah si PITUNG jadi BUNGKARNOHATTA dan memerdekakan JKSE dari rayuan-rayuan other regional bargain ADA yang sudah BELAJAR INTERMARKET ANALYSYShh atau perlu TT? Jacky Chen emang paling jago loncat yah... What a happy day today untuk yang out last Fri From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:17:35 - Jacky Chen udah naek lagi +4%... _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710
Kalau ingat bulan Mei 2005, bisa jadi bull trap On 2/28/07, Marjan Syah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini JCI turning dari lowest level dengan support kuat terlihat di 50% retracement level di 1700. Sempat turun sekitar 5 % dan sekarang tinggal -1.8%. Sudah naik sekitar 3 % dari lowest hari ini. Shanghai naik 3.94%pada penutupan hari ini dan bursa asia lainnya menunjukkan trend yang meningkat di akhir perdagangan hari ini. Bagaimana besok menurut perkiraan para suhu?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon
tunggu aja level 1724 seberapa kuat akan ditahan.. liat closing aja On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:36:09 +0700, edy1276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bozz.. Ini Healty/temporary correction or TRUE BEARISH signal? Mohon pencerahan atau bisik-bisik dari Tetangga... TRIMS BANGET Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon
Mungkin bisa coba2 short setelah pullback sekarang karena market masih belum cukup kuat On 2/28/07, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tunggu aja level 1724 seberapa kuat akan ditahan.. liat closing aja On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:36:09 +0700, edy1276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bozz.. Ini Healty/temporary correction or TRUE BEARISH signal? Mohon pencerahan atau bisik-bisik dari Tetangga... TRIMS BANGET Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back ???
Saya nggak jago cuman mau coba mananalisis kalo bole... Uang yang dipake untuk rebound hari ini di cina adalah uang smart yang dikelola oleh orang-org yang mempunyai akses informasi super hghway dan excess cash. Seperti yang mbah bilang, momen ini akan dipake untuk memutar-mutar portofolio untuk design kedepan, meng cut loss, dan membaca situasi masa depan dari sideways. Ada porsi besar dari uang yang dikelola dari information laggard yang baru tahu kalo market terkoreksi. laggard ini ini bisa karena size atau system. Contohnya org yang punya fund milyaran di berbagai fund houses. Sulit untuk switch atau redeem. Ibarat org kaget.. gemeterannya masih kerasa. Dan yang kaget itu hampir seluruh market.. including the mighty Uncle Sam. The laggard+org org yg gemertaran and the smart money (crafted future by bandar) akan baku hantam dalam beberapa hari ini. Karena luasnya impact dan banyaknya org dari golongan yang pertama.. market akan kembali merah besok sebelum hijau pelan pelan dalam beberapa minggu. Itu kalo benerrr.. kalo salah mohon diajari. dfaj21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ADA yang JAGO dengan INTERMARKET - ANALYSYS GLOBAL market DOWN DJIA overcast bin mendung oleh GREENSPAN's R word - bisa jadi ribbon Phillipines niru Shanghai, KLSE 2 hari berturut UDAH turun 3% INDONESIA perkasa karena si PITUNG gerilya Bisakah si PITUNG jadi BUNGKARNOHATTA dan memerdekakan JKSE dari rayuan-rayuan other regional bargain ADA yang sudah BELAJAR INTERMARKET ANALYSYShh atau perlu TT? Jacky Chen emang paling jago loncat yah... What a happy day today untuk yang out last Fri From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:17:35 - Jacky Chen udah naek lagi +4%... __ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon
Dan yang paling penting INDEX US/EROPA nanti malam dan index Asia besok pagi Tapi udah TERLAMBAT BELI kalo regional naek... Tapi kalo regional JEBLOK LAGI, enak yang engga punya barang seperti tadi pagi... So, please advice on: prediksi index REGIONAL ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tunggu closing aja.. biar ketauan yg beli hari ini emang ada duitnya apa gak, kl yg one day udah pasti mencret bentaran lagi.. On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:30:06 +0700, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mungkin bisa coba2 short setelah pullback sekarang karena market masih belum cukup kuat
RE: [obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710
Besok JSX minus 15 point Boss, tutup di 1705-1710. _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marjan Syah Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:08 PM To: obrolan-bandar Subject: [obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710 Hari ini JCI turning dari lowest level dengan support kuat terlihat di 50% retracement level di 1700. Sempat turun sekitar 5 % dan sekarang tinggal -1.8%. Sudah naik sekitar 3 % dari lowest hari ini. Shanghai naik 3.94% pada penutupan hari ini dan bursa asia lainnya menunjukkan trend yang meningkat di akhir perdagangan hari ini. Bagaimana besok menurut perkiraan para suhu?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: mau isi gudang internet error , fren ku ngadat.......ya terpaksa deh...ngeliatin doang
tul mbah jrg skl ada ksmptn spt ini --- jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Si BOZZ engga mungkin kasih untung PULUHAN JUTA dalam hitungan menit. Jadi ^%$$#$%** Jurus PANIC DISENGAJA TADI PAGI, bener bener SERANGAN KESELATAN dalam 5 menit dan BALIK NYERANG KEATAS SECEPAT KILAT !!! Disini yang diperlukan bukan TA, FA, atau ilmu lainnya, cukup INSTINCT/NALURI apa yang mau dilakukan siBOZZ... Dan tentunya INTERNET/KOMUNIKASI kebroker harus LANCAR... Nah APA SELANJUTNYA Ada yang punya EXTENDED INSTINCT atau selanjutnya kita pake TA ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Asep Buhori [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: __ __ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
[obrolan-bandar] Re: IS IT TRUE?
IT IS NOT TRUE kata embah... Cuman yang KOMUNIKASInya kebursa bagus bisa MAEN tadi pagi dalam TIME WINDOWS yang begitu SINGKAT... Sedang trader recehan cuman sedikit yang bisa maen dalam SERANGAN KILAT BEGINI. Mostly mereka mulai maen didaerah 1700 keatas. Jadi yang NGANCURIN die dan yang NAEKIN juga die Yang penting WHAT IS NEXT ? Gimana pak Oentoeng, embah nanya nih ama 'MURID' ?... hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah. Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang dalam jumlah besar. Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli lagi dibawah. Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg dibuang si PERUSUH. Selalu dan selalu. Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita terlambat selangkah. Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH. Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak ada masalah besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain. PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN. TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya. Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind. - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon
telat dikit gpp, mbah.. asal emang keretanya sdh pasti berangkat kl ternyata keretanya langsir doangan.. bisa berabe.. heheee reboundnya shanghai hari ini gak ada 50% nya jatohnya kemaren.. On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:47:37 +0700, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan yang paling penting INDEX US/EROPA nanti malam dan index Asia besok pagi Tapi udah TERLAMBAT BELI kalo regional naek... Tapi kalo regional JEBLOK LAGI, enak yang engga punya barang seperti tadi pagi... So, please advice on: prediksi index REGIONAL ? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Transfer from your equities account. Receive up to $1,000 from GFT. Click here to learn more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/aZttyC/X_xQAA/cosFAA/zMEolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge
HURRRAAAH.. Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:JSX index to fall to 1688...? and shortly recovered and closed above 1700..? Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones industrials down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that the U.S. and Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have become overinflated. The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth, signaled a possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily rising stock markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of trading in several years. A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors sent Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for U.S. trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline accelerated throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge plunge in late afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in. The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29 percent, at 12,216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of the plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's trading limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated. The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading day after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or 7.13 percent. The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues such as small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines. But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that began last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were unfazed by Tuesday's drop. This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but we don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll, BlackRock's global chief investment officer of equities. Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term perspective. All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the last 12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney, adding that he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and downs. This is another day in the market. Still, traders' dwindling confidence was knocked down further by data showing that the economy may be decelerating more than anticipated. A Commerce Department report that orders for durable goods in January dropped by the largest amount in three months exacerbated jitters about the direction of the U.S. economy, just a day after former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said the United States may be headed for a recession. It looks more and more like the economy is a slow growth economy, said Michael Strauss, chief economist at Commonfund. Moderate economic growth is good -- an abrupt stop in economic growth scares people. The market had been expecting the government on Wednesday to revise its estimate of fourth-quarter GDP growth down to an annual rate of about 2.3 percent from an initial forecast of 3.5 percent, and grew increasingly nervous on Tuesday that the figure could come in even lower. The housing market, which the Street had been hoping had bottomed out, also looked far from recovery after a Standard Poor's index indicated that single-family home prices across the nation were flat in December. A later report from the National Association of Realtors said existing home sales climbed in January by the largest amount in two years, but the data didn't erase housing-related concerns, as median home prices fell for a sixth straight month. But a growing feeling that Wall Street, which has had a big run-up since October, was due for a correction also played into Tuesday's decline. I think that the market was prepared to pull back. The constellation of issues that were worrying the market came to a head, said Quincy Krosby, chief investment strategist at The Hartford. Just a week ago, the Dow had reached new closing and trading highs, rising as high as 12,795.92. The broader Standard Poor's 500 index was down 50.33, or 3.47 percent, at 1,399.04, and the tech-dominated Nasdaq composite index was off 96.65, or 3.86 percent, at 2,407.87. A suicide bomber attack on the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan where Vice President Dick Cheney was visiting also rattled the market. China's stock market
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge
What's next Mr. ? JG - Original Message - From: Frederick Schubert To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge HURRRAAAH.. Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JSX index to fall to 1688...? and shortly recovered and closed above 1700..? Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones industrials down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that the U.S. and Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have become overinflated. The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth, signaled a possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily rising stock markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of trading in several years. A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors sent Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for U.S. trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline accelerated throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge plunge in late afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in. The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29 percent, at 12,216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of the plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's trading limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated. The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading day after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or 7.13 percent. The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues such as small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines. But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that began last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were unfazed by Tuesday's drop. This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but we don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll, BlackRock's global chief investment officer of equities. Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term perspective. All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the last 12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney, adding that he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and downs. This is another day in the market. Still, traders' dwindling confidence was knocked down further by data showing that the economy may be decelerating more than anticipated. A Commerce Department report that orders for durable goods in January dropped by the largest amount in three months exacerbated jitters about the direction of the U.S. economy, just a day after former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said the United States may be headed for a recession. It looks more and more like the economy is a slow growth economy, said Michael Strauss, chief economist at Commonfund. Moderate economic growth is good -- an abrupt stop in economic growth scares people. The market had been expecting the government on Wednesday to revise its estimate of fourth-quarter GDP growth down to an annual rate of about 2.3 percent from an initial forecast of 3.5 percent, and grew increasingly nervous on Tuesday that the figure could come in even lower. The housing market, which the Street had been hoping had bottomed out, also looked far from recovery after a Standard Poor's index indicated that single-family home prices across the nation were flat in December. A later report from the National Association of Realtors said existing home sales climbed in January by the largest amount in two years, but the data didn't erase housing-related concerns, as median home prices fell for a sixth straight month. But a growing feeling that Wall Street, which has had a big run-up since October, was due for a correction also played into Tuesday's decline. I think that the market was prepared to pull back. The constellation of issues that were worrying the market came to a head, said Quincy Krosby, chief investment strategist at The Hartford. Just a week ago, the Dow had reached new closing and trading highs, rising
[obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon
Dalam keadaan HECTIC begini, anda masih tetap RASIONIL dan COOL VETERAN never dies in the market unless dipangil yg diatas... hehehe Semoga panjang umur dan hokienya berlimpah ditahun BABI yang banyak guyuran air hujan (katanya banyak rezekinya). Jadi meskipun DIGEBUK ama BOZZ pagi ini, malah untung Mudah mudahan GUYURAN siBOZZ pagi ini (TANPA BARANG !!!) adalah angpao dari siBOZZ sebagai 'TANDA' awal dari BABI BASAH yang penuh dengan keberuntungan semoga --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: telat dikit gpp, mbah.. asal emang keretanya sdh pasti berangkat kl ternyata keretanya langsir doangan.. bisa berabe.. heheee reboundnya shanghai hari ini gak ada 50% nya jatohnya kemaren.. On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:47:37 +0700, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan yang paling penting INDEX US/EROPA nanti malam dan index Asia besok pagi Tapi udah TERLAMBAT BELI kalo regional naek... Tapi kalo regional JEBLOK LAGI, enak yang engga punya barang seperti tadi pagi... So, please advice on: prediksi index REGIONAL ?
[obrolan-bandar] Re: IS IT TRUE?
Tanda2nya regional mau ke Selatan neh mbah Gimana neh menurut pak Oentoeng... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IT IS NOT TRUE kata embah... Cuman yang KOMUNIKASInya kebursa bagus bisa MAEN tadi pagi dalam TIME WINDOWS yang begitu SINGKAT... Sedang trader recehan cuman sedikit yang bisa maen dalam SERANGAN KILAT BEGINI. Mostly mereka mulai maen didaerah 1700 keatas. Jadi yang NGANCURIN die dan yang NAEKIN juga die Yang penting WHAT IS NEXT ? Gimana pak Oentoeng, embah nanya nih ama 'MURID' ?... hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok jackcowok2@ wrote: Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah. Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang dalam jumlah besar. Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli lagi dibawah. Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg dibuang si PERUSUH. Selalu dan selalu. Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita terlambat selangkah. Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH. Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak ada masalah besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain. PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN. TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya. Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind. - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge
Emang Mr FS Oce, prediksinya manjuuur... So, what the next path, going SOUTH or NORTH ? Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HURRRAAAH.. Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JSX index to fall to 1688...? and shortly recovered and closed above 1700..? Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones industrials down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that the U.S. and Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have become overinflated. The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth, signaled a possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily rising stock markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of trading in several years. A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors sent Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for U.S. trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline accelerated throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge plunge in late afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in. The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29 percent, at 12,216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of the plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's trading limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated. The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading day after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or 7.13 percent. The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues such as small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines. But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that began last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were unfazed by Tuesday's drop. This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but we don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll, BlackRock's global chief investment officer of equities. Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term perspective. All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the last 12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney, adding that he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and downs. This is another day in the market. Still, traders' dwindling confidence was knocked down further by data showing that the economy may be decelerating more than anticipated. A Commerce Department report that orders for durable goods in January dropped by the largest amount in three months exacerbated jitters about the direction of the U.S. economy, just a day after former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said the United States may be headed for a recession. It looks more and more like the economy is a slow growth economy, said Michael Strauss, chief economist at Commonfund. Moderate economic growth is good -- an abrupt stop in economic growth scares people. The market had been expecting the government on Wednesday to revise its estimate of fourth-quarter GDP growth down to an annual rate of about 2.3 percent from an initial forecast of 3.5 percent, and grew increasingly nervous on Tuesday that the figure could come in even lower. The housing market, which the Street had been hoping had bottomed out, also looked far from recovery after a Standard Poor's index indicated that single-family home prices across the nation were flat in December. A later report from the National Association of Realtors said existing home sales climbed in January by the largest amount in two years, but the data didn't erase housing-related concerns, as median home prices fell for a sixth straight month. But a growing feeling that Wall Street, which has had a big run-up since October, was due for a correction also played into Tuesday's decline. I think that the market was prepared to pull back. The constellation of issues that were worrying the market came to a head, said Quincy Krosby, chief investment strategist at The Hartford. Just a week ago, the Dow had reached new closing and trading highs, rising as high as 12,795.92. The broader Standard Poor's 500 index was down 50.33, or 3.47 percent, at 1,399.04, and the tech-dominated Nasdaq composite index was off 96.65, or 3.86 percent, at 2,407.87. A suicide bomber
Re: [obrolan-bandar] No Way Out
Saya cuma menghitung saja kalau DJIA dan STI turun 3% dalam sehari, HSI-X dan NI-225 turun hampir 3% ... biasanya masih akan ada ledakan kecil-kecil lagi sebelum market stable dan pelan-pelan naik merangkak...jadi kalau hari ini JSX turun cuma 1.3% masih bakal bisa turun lagi beberapa hari ke depan...hari ini bisa rebound bukan karena market sudah pulih dari 1600-an tapi karena banyak yang cover short position, apalagi trader besar yang sekali ngeshort beberapa ribu lot...tunggu di 1650an baru masuk lagi untuk hold tiga bulan...ini kebiasaan saya dan hasilnya lumayan... --- Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yakin? kalau view untuk hari ini atau minggu ini dan yang margin it's ok no way out. kalau ndak ada posisi kayak anda ini mungkin mau tadah di bawah yach jadi suruh orang jualan supaya jatuh dalam jadi enak donk belinya. regards On 2/28/07, Ricky Dahlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gue rasa tidak ada solusi untuk kondisi seperti ini, jual saja yang ada posisi berapapun masuknya. . . -- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49936/*http://videogames.yahoo.com Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge
ugh we still have another day of selling tomorrow... Investor Bonex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Emang Mr FS Oce, prediksinya manjuuur... So, what the next path, going SOUTH or NORTH ? Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HURRRAAAH.. Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JSX index to fall to 1688...? and shortly recovered and closed above 1700..? Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones industrials down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that the U.S. and Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have become overinflated. The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth, signaled a possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily rising stock markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of trading in several years. A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors sent Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for U.S. trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline accelerated throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge plunge in late afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in. The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29 percent, at 12,216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of the plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's trading limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated. The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading day after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or 7.13 percent. The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues such as small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines. But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that began last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were unfazed by Tuesday's drop. This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but we don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll, BlackRock's global chief investment officer of equities. Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term perspective. All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the last 12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney, adding that he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and downs. This is another day in the market. Still, traders' dwindling confidence was knocked down further by data showing that the economy may be decelerating more than anticipated. A Commerce Department report that orders for durable goods in January dropped by the largest amount in three months exacerbated jitters about the direction of the U.S. economy, just a day after former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said the United States may be headed for a recession. It looks more and more like the economy is a slow growth economy, said Michael Strauss, chief economist at Commonfund. Moderate economic growth is good -- an abrupt stop in economic growth scares people. The market had been expecting the government on Wednesday to revise its estimate of fourth-quarter GDP growth down to an annual rate of about 2.3 percent from an initial forecast of 3.5 percent, and grew increasingly nervous on Tuesday that the figure could come in even lower. The housing market, which the Street had been hoping had bottomed out, also looked far from recovery after a Standard Poor's index indicated that single-family home prices across the nation were flat in December. A later report from the National Association of Realtors said existing home sales climbed in January by the largest amount in two years, but the data didn't erase housing-related concerns, as median home prices fell for a sixth straight month. But a growing feeling that Wall Street, which has had a big run-up since October, was due for a correction also played into Tuesday's decline. I think that the market was prepared to pull back. The constellation of issues that were worrying the market came to a head, said Quincy Krosby, chief investment strategist at The Hartford. Just a week ago, the Dow had reached new closing and trading highs, rising as high as 12,795.92. The broader Standard Poor's 500 index was down 50.33, or 3.47 percent, at 1,399.04, and
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge
trying to figure out what you will up to ... little bear will continue to follow.. if JCI down again tomorrow , it will be great to be collected by trader... hahaha :) On 2/28/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ugh we still have another day of selling tomorrow... *Investor Bonex [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Emang Mr FS Oce, prediksinya manjuuur... So, what the next path, going SOUTH or NORTH ? *Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: HURRRAAAH.. *Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: JSX index to fall to 1688...? and shortly recovered and closed above 1700..? *Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: *Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge* Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer *Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge* NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones industrials down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that the U.S. and Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have become overinflated. The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth, signaled a possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily rising stock markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of trading in several years. A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors sent Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for U.S. trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline accelerated throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge plunge in late afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in. The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29 percent, at 12,216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of the plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's trading limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated. The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading day after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or 7.13 percent. The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues such as small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines. But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that began last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were unfazed by Tuesday's drop. This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but we don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll, BlackRock's global chief investment officer of equities. Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term perspective. All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the last 12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney, adding that he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and downs. This is another day in the market. Still, traders' dwindling confidence was knocked down further by data showing that the economy may be decelerating more than anticipated. A Commerce Department report that orders for durable goods in January dropped by the largest amount in three months exacerbated jitters about the direction of the U.S. economy, just a day after former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said the United States may be headed for a recession. It looks more and more like the economy is a slow growth economy, said Michael Strauss, chief economist at Commonfund. Moderate economic growth is good -- an abrupt stop in economic growth scares people. The market had been expecting the government on Wednesday to revise its estimate of fourth-quarter GDP growth down to an annual rate of about 2.3percent from an initial forecast of 3.5 percent, and grew increasingly nervous on Tuesday that the figure could come in even lower. The housing market, which the Street had been hoping had bottomed out, also looked far from recovery after a Standard Poor's index indicated that single-family home prices across the nation were flat in December. A later report from the National Association of Realtors said existing home sales climbed in January by the largest amount in two years, but the data didn't erase housing-related concerns, as median home prices fell for a sixth straight month. But a growing feeling that Wall Street, which has had a big run-up since October, was due for a correction also played into Tuesday's decline. I think that the market was prepared to pull back. The constellation of issues that were worrying the market came to a head, said Quincy Krosby, chief investment strategist at The Hartford. Just a week ago, the Dow had reached new closing and trading highs, rising as high as 12,795.92.
[obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?
Serangan JAUH KEBAWAH dilanjutkan dengan serangan TIBA TIBA KEATAS punya 2 implikasi: 1. Implikasi BAIK: Sesudah GOJLOKAN ini selesai maka, AVERAGE COST rata rata trader menjadi lebih RENDAH, jadi kedepan INDEX menjadi lebih mudah naik, karena LEMAK LEMAK trader kejedut menjadi hilang kena Margin Call. 2. Implikasi BRUK: Trader melihat index yang rebound MEYAKINKAN hari ini menjadi OPTIMIS dan YAKIN: Jika REGIONAL jatoh lagi entar malam maka mereka AKAN BUY dengan harapan KEJADIAN ini akan berulang. Tapi embah INGATKAN, kejadian INI tidak AKAN TERJADI LAGI BESOK meskipun REGIONAL minus lagi nanti malam. Si BOZZ tidak akan mengulang TAKTIK yang SAMA INI besok, karena dia BUKAN orang bego... s Note: - Hari ini meskipun volumenya BESAR, sebenarnya ini BOONGAN karena kalo BENERAN BARANG DIBAGI, engga mungkin INDEX bisa rebound dengan meyakinkan, INI CUMAN ILUSI bagi yang percaya ama volume. Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ... Tapi jika REGIONAL membaik, maka IMPLIKASI 1 akan bekerja, INDEX akan naik kencang lagi karena IHSG udah seperti ibu ibu yang SINGSET+ LANGSING DIGOJLOK HABIS hari ini semoga --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo harga turun2 begini - memang relatif susah utk jualan2 - krn harga cepet banget meluncur ke bawah + ada gapping down (harga2 loncat ke bawah).Demikian pula sebaliknya, kalo pas harga naek2 (drastis) memang relatif susah waktu 'nguber2 belinya -- apalagi kalo ditambahi dg emosi lg - tapi, ya itu kita memang harus melakukan sesuatu (namanya juga 'usaha'). :) Kalo lihat hasil akhirnya market (- 20-an, 4 T) - kayaknya business as usual saja, ya (spt profit bookings biasa saja) - dampaknya ternyata tidak spt yg orang kebanyakan bayangkan2/kuatirkan2 semula setelah berjalannya waktu Regards, Aria -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Cowok Sent: 28 Februari 2007 15:45 To: saham@yahoogroups.com Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IS IT TRUE? Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah. Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang dalam jumlah besar. Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli lagi dibawah. Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg dibuang si PERUSUH. Selalu dan selalu. Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita terlambat selangkah. Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH. Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak ada masalah besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain. PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN. TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya. Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind. _ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic- 14795097;_ylc=X3oDMTFtNW45amVp BF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BF9zAzI3MTk0ODEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA21haWx0YWdsaW5lBHNsawNxMS 0w Nw--%0d%0a Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710
waduh ni dukun pake angka pasti pulak, darimana angka itu Om dhukun? kasih tahu hitungannya? Ikuti Pesan bang Napi aja : WASPADALAH..WASPADALAH. Cut Loss Akibat Disiplin Ketat - Original Message - From: feter To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710 Besok JSX minus 15 point Boss, tutup di 1705-1710. -- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marjan Syah Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:08 PM To: obrolan-bandar Subject: [obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710 Hari ini JCI turning dari lowest level dengan support kuat terlihat di 50% retracement level di 1700. Sempat turun sekitar 5 % dan sekarang tinggal -1.8%. Sudah naik sekitar 3 % dari lowest hari ini. Shanghai naik 3.94% pada penutupan hari ini dan bursa asia lainnya menunjukkan trend yang meningkat di akhir perdagangan hari ini. Bagaimana besok menurut perkiraan para suhu?
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?
Psikologi pasar, dimana saya bisa belajar hal ini... Mirip dengan The Art of War nya Sun Tzu Rasanya JSX hal ini jauh lebih dominan dibanding FA dan TA,.. CMIIW.. -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:16 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE? Serangan JAUH KEBAWAH dilanjutkan dengan serangan TIBA TIBA KEATAS punya 2 implikasi: 1. Implikasi BAIK: Sesudah GOJLOKAN ini selesai maka, AVERAGE COST rata rata trader menjadi lebih RENDAH, jadi kedepan INDEX menjadi lebih mudah naik, karena LEMAK LEMAK trader kejedut menjadi hilang kena Margin Call. 2. Implikasi BRUK: Trader melihat index yang rebound MEYAKINKAN hari ini menjadi OPTIMIS dan YAKIN: Jika REGIONAL jatoh lagi entar malam maka mereka AKAN BUY dengan harapan KEJADIAN ini akan berulang. Tapi embah INGATKAN, kejadian INI tidak AKAN TERJADI LAGI BESOK meskipun REGIONAL minus lagi nanti malam. Si BOZZ tidak akan mengulang TAKTIK yang SAMA INI besok, karena dia BUKAN orang bego... s Note: - Hari ini meskipun volumenya BESAR, sebenarnya ini BOONGAN karena kalo BENERAN BARANG DIBAGI, engga mungkin INDEX bisa rebound dengan meyakinkan, INI CUMAN ILUSI bagi yang percaya ama volume. Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ... Tapi jika REGIONAL membaik, maka IMPLIKASI 1 akan bekerja, INDEX akan naik kencang lagi karena IHSG udah seperti ibu ibu yang SINGSET+ LANGSING DIGOJLOK HABIS hari ini semoga
Re: [obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710
Bukannya udah pasti gagal tuh, kalo -15 besok tutup di 1725. Kalo +15 tutup di 1755 he he he. On 2/28/07, Josia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: waduh ni dukun pake angka pasti pulak, darimana angka itu Om dhukun? kasih tahu hitungannya? From:feter Besok JSX minus 15point Boss, tutup di 1705-1710.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!
Omong2, Tan-toanio meramalkan hujan dari mana ya kemarin? Rumor tentang perubahan kebijakan atau murni secara teknikal?
[obrolan-bandar] Re: IS IT TRUE?
YOU're TRUE Mbah kata saya... Logikanya SIAPA yg GILA mau menjual saham (BC) TLKM, BBCA, BBRI dst..sbg OPENING WAR? Apalagi kalau diiringi LOT GEDHE? Kalau Mbah pake GARIS TENGAH 1700 Artinya BOZZ nampungin barang2 di bawah 1700 dan.. Jualnya di atas 1700. Bisa NAMBAH lot (kalau diternak) atau NETTING (nggak pake barang/modal) What NEXT Yang jelas BOZZ muter DUNIA BEJ ini ALMOST DONE... Artinya proses rounding TOP pd BC sudah lebih dari 50% dari target harga yg ingin dicapai secara keseluruhan. Yang penting kita SEMUA lihat portfolio masing2 apakah GRAFIK-nya masih kelihatan UP-TREND atau kelihatan ROUNDING TOP? Nah ngomong2 UP-TREND kalau saya masih pegang MINING secara SEKTORAL. Dan 2nd liner beberapa...kesukaan saya. Yang penting dlm kondisi begini masih bisa COOL...RELAXX... Ya nggak Mbah? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IT IS NOT TRUE kata embah... Cuman yang KOMUNIKASInya kebursa bagus bisa MAEN tadi pagi dalam TIME WINDOWS yang begitu SINGKAT... Sedang trader recehan cuman sedikit yang bisa maen dalam SERANGAN KILAT BEGINI. Mostly mereka mulai maen didaerah 1700 keatas. Jadi yang NGANCURIN die dan yang NAEKIN juga die Yang penting WHAT IS NEXT ? Gimana pak Oentoeng, embah nanya nih ama 'MURID' ?... hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok jackcowok2@ wrote: Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah. Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang dalam jumlah besar. Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli lagi dibawah. Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg dibuang si PERUSUH. Selalu dan selalu. Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita terlambat selangkah. Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH. Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak ada masalah besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain. PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN. TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya. Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind. - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
[obrolan-bandar] IS IT TRUE?
Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah. Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang dalam jumlah besar. Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli lagi dibawah. Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg dibuang si PERUSUH. Selalu dan selalu. Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita terlambat selangkah. Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH. Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak ada masalah besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain. PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN. TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya. Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind. - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] IS IT TRUE?
Kalo harga turun2 begini - memang relatif susah utk jualan2 - krn harga cepet banget meluncur ke bawah + ada gapping down (harga2 loncat ke bawah).Demikian pula sebaliknya, kalo pas harga naek2 (drastis) memang relatif susah waktu 'nguber2 belinya -- apalagi kalo ditambahi dg emosi lg - tapi, ya itu kita memang harus melakukan sesuatu (namanya juga 'usaha'). :) Kalo lihat hasil akhirnya market (- 20-an, 4 T) - kayaknya business as usual saja, ya (spt profit bookings biasa saja) - dampaknya ternyata tidak spt yg orang kebanyakan bayangkan2/kuatirkan2 semula setelah berjalannya waktu Regards, Aria -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Cowok Sent: 28 Februari 2007 15:45 To: saham@yahoogroups.com Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IS IT TRUE? Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah. Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang dalam jumlah besar. Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli lagi dibawah. Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg dibuang si PERUSUH. Selalu dan selalu. Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita terlambat selangkah. Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH. Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak ada masalah besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain. PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN. TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya. Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind. _ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097;_ylc=X3oDMTFtNW45amVp BF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BF9zAzI3MTk0ODEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA21haWx0YWdsaW5lBHNsawNxMS0w Nw--%0d%0a Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IS IT TRUE? +2nd Bottom poin in this Year
Embah saya ikut nimbrung ya.. Saya setuju...yg buat 'morning shock' adalah bandar2 yg sama dgn yang naikkan dgn waktu singkat..krn u/ mancing retail jual saham di harga rendah dan membelinya..yg kena efek China kenalah... Sama speti tgl 9-12 Januari'07..saat Iran disinggung AS soal projek nuklir..harga jatuh...untuk membuat pasar panik atau bingung mau kemana... Harapan saya hari ini adalah 'the lower price and the 2nd bottom in this year...Index buka di rem pada harga yg sama... --- jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IT IS NOT TRUE kata embah... Cuman yang KOMUNIKASInya kebursa bagus bisa MAEN tadi pagi dalam TIME WINDOWS yang begitu SINGKAT... Sedang trader recehan cuman sedikit yang bisa maen dalam SERANGAN KILAT BEGINI. Mostly mereka mulai maen didaerah 1700 keatas. Jadi yang NGANCURIN die dan yang NAEKIN juga die Yang penting WHAT IS NEXT ? Gimana pak Oentoeng, embah nanya nih ama 'MURID' ?... hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah. Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang dalam jumlah besar. Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli lagi dibawah. Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg dibuang si PERUSUH. Selalu dan selalu. Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita terlambat selangkah. Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH. Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak ada masalah besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain. PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN. TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya. Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind. - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. Best Regard, Rokaya A. Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?
Salut buat mbah segala teknik dapat dibaca oleh embah ...yang memberikan lampu templok untuk penerangan bagi warung mbah . kita bangga mempunyai guru seperti mbah... tapi kita juga angkat jempol buat si Bozz ... selalu lebih awal dalam mengolah market logic Semoga kita semua dapat belajar untuk hari depan. regards HW jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Serangan JAUH KEBAWAH dilanjutkan dengan serangan TIBA TIBA KEATAS punya 2 implikasi: 1. Implikasi BAIK: Sesudah GOJLOKAN ini selesai maka, AVERAGE COST rata rata trader menjadi lebih RENDAH, jadi kedepan INDEX menjadi lebih mudah naik, karena LEMAK LEMAK trader kejedut menjadi hilang kena Margin Call. 2. Implikasi BRUK: Trader melihat index yang rebound MEYAKINKAN hari ini menjadi OPTIMIS dan YAKIN: Jika REGIONAL jatoh lagi entar malam maka mereka AKAN BUY dengan harapan KEJADIAN ini akan berulang. Tapi embah INGATKAN, kejadian INI tidak AKAN TERJADI LAGI BESOK meskipun REGIONAL minus lagi nanti malam. Si BOZZ tidak akan mengulang TAKTIK yang SAMA INI besok, karena dia BUKAN orang bego... s Note: - Hari ini meskipun volumenya BESAR, sebenarnya ini BOONGAN karena kalo BENERAN BARANG DIBAGI, engga mungkin INDEX bisa rebound dengan meyakinkan, INI CUMAN ILUSI bagi yang percaya ama volume. Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ... Tapi jika REGIONAL membaik, maka IMPLIKASI 1 akan bekerja, INDEX akan naik kencang lagi karena IHSG udah seperti ibu ibu yang SINGSET+ LANGSING DIGOJLOK HABIS hari ini semoga --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo harga turun2 begini - memang relatif susah utk jualan2 - krn harga cepet banget meluncur ke bawah + ada gapping down (harga2 loncat ke bawah).Demikian pula sebaliknya, kalo pas harga naek2 (drastis) memang relatif susah waktu 'nguber2 belinya -- apalagi kalo ditambahi dg emosi lg - tapi, ya itu kita memang harus melakukan sesuatu (namanya juga 'usaha'). :) Kalo lihat hasil akhirnya market (- 20-an, 4 T) - kayaknya business as usual saja, ya (spt profit bookings biasa saja) - dampaknya ternyata tidak spt yg orang kebanyakan bayangkan2/kuatirkan2 semula setelah berjalannya waktu Regards, Aria -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Cowok Sent: 28 Februari 2007 15:45 To: saham@yahoogroups.com Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IS IT TRUE? Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah. Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang dalam jumlah besar. Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli lagi dibawah. Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg dibuang si PERUSUH. Selalu dan selalu. Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita terlambat selangkah. Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH. Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak ada masalah besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain. PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN. TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya. Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind. _ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic- 14795097;_ylc=X3oDMTFtNW45amVp BF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BF9zAzI3MTk0ODEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA21haWx0YWdsaW5lBHNsawNxMS 0w Nw--%0d%0a Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
[obrolan-bandar] Nickel, apakah masih naik?
Dibanding Nikkei dan DJIA yang turun sekitar 5%an, sebenarnya masih lebih parah IHSG, karena turun sampai 8% dari tertinggi beberapa hari yang lalu. Besok turun atau naik bozz? Kenaikan Komoditi Nickel juga tidak berpengaruh pada saham INCO dan ANTM, bahkan INCO dipasang balok di 13.800. Bozz memang hebat..!!! 27 Feb Official PricesCash Ask 3m 15m Cash Ask 3m 15m Copper618161955920 Lead194319001550 Aluminium28882855.52648 Tin137751375012425 Nickel445004110533550 Al.Alloy218022252315 Zinc351635223245 NASAAC216122202295 - It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?
dari sunzu intinya cuma 3 hal kok : 1. understanding your enemy 2. understanding yourself 3. understanding battle field. - Original Message From: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:26:37 AM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE? Psikologi pasar, dimana saya bisa belajar hal ini... Mirip dengan The Art of War nya Sun Tzu Rasanya JSX hal ini jauh lebih dominan dibanding FA dan TA,.. CMIIW.. -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:16 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE? Serangan JAUH KEBAWAH dilanjutkan dengan serangan TIBA TIBA KEATAS punya 2 implikasi: 1. Implikasi BAIK: Sesudah GOJLOKAN ini selesai maka, AVERAGE COST rata rata trader menjadi lebih RENDAH, jadi kedepan INDEX menjadi lebih mudah naik, karena LEMAK LEMAK trader kejedut menjadi hilang kena Margin Call. 2. Implikasi BRUK: Trader melihat index yang rebound MEYAKINKAN hari ini menjadi OPTIMIS dan YAKIN: Jika REGIONAL jatoh lagi entar malam maka mereka AKAN BUY dengan harapan KEJADIAN ini akan berulang. Tapi embah INGATKAN, kejadian INI tidak AKAN TERJADI LAGI BESOK meskipun REGIONAL minus lagi nanti malam. Si BOZZ tidak akan mengulang TAKTIK yang SAMA INI besok, karena dia BUKAN orang bego... s Note: - Hari ini meskipun volumenya BESAR, sebenarnya ini BOONGAN karena kalo BENERAN BARANG DIBAGI, engga mungkin INDEX bisa rebound dengan meyakinkan, INI CUMAN ILUSI bagi yang percaya ama volume. Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ... Tapi jika REGIONAL membaik, maka IMPLIKASI 1 akan bekerja, INDEX akan naik kencang lagi karena IHSG udah seperti ibu ibu yang SINGSET+ LANGSING DIGOJLOK HABIS hari ini semoga !-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0; } #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both; } #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px; font-family:Verdana; font-size:77%; margin:0; } #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px; } #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both; margin:25px 0; white-space:nowrap; color:#666; text-align:right; } #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left; white-space:nowrap; } .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana; font-size:77%; padding:15px 0; } #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana; font-size:77%; border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px; } #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px; } #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%; font-family:Verdana; font-weight:bold; color:#333; text-transform:uppercase; } #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0; margin:2px 0; } #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none; clear:both; border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold; color:#ff7900; float:right; width:2em; text-align:right; padding-right:.5em; } #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold; } #ygrp-vital a { text-decoration:none; } #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline; } #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999; font-size:77%; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px; background-color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom:20px; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px; margin:0; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square; padding:6px 0; font-size:77%; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none; font-size:130%; } #ygrp-sponsor #nc { background-color:#eee; margin-bottom:20px; padding:0 8px; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial; font-weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size:100%; line-height:122%; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0; } o {font-size:0;} .MsoNormal { margin:0 0 0 0; } #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%; } blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq {margin:4;} -- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?
KADANG2 ADA WAKTUNYA SI BOZZ BERBAIK HATI HARUS CEPAT2 TANGKAP SBLM SI BOZZ BERBALIK HATINYA TAPI GAK BAKALAN DUA KALI CUKUP SEKALI AJA SO TOMORROW LETS SEE... --- jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Serangan JAUH KEBAWAH dilanjutkan dengan serangan TIBA TIBA KEATAS punya 2 implikasi: 1. Implikasi BAIK: Sesudah GOJLOKAN ini selesai maka, AVERAGE COST rata rata trader menjadi lebih RENDAH, jadi kedepan INDEX menjadi lebih mudah naik, karena LEMAK LEMAK trader kejedut menjadi hilang kena Margin Call. 2. Implikasi BRUK: Trader melihat index yang rebound MEYAKINKAN hari ini menjadi OPTIMIS dan YAKIN: Jika REGIONAL jatoh lagi entar malam maka mereka AKAN BUY dengan harapan KEJADIAN ini akan berulang. Tapi embah INGATKAN, kejadian INI tidak AKAN TERJADI LAGI BESOK meskipun REGIONAL minus lagi nanti malam. Si BOZZ tidak akan mengulang TAKTIK yang SAMA INI besok, karena dia BUKAN orang bego... s Note: - Hari ini meskipun volumenya BESAR, sebenarnya ini BOONGAN karena kalo BENERAN BARANG DIBAGI, engga mungkin INDEX bisa rebound dengan meyakinkan, INI CUMAN ILUSI bagi yang percaya ama volume. Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ... Tapi jika REGIONAL membaik, maka IMPLIKASI 1 akan bekerja, INDEX akan naik kencang lagi karena IHSG udah seperti ibu ibu yang SINGSET+ LANGSING DIGOJLOK HABIS hari ini semoga --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo harga turun2 begini - memang relatif susah utk jualan2 - krn harga cepet banget meluncur ke bawah + ada gapping down (harga2 loncat ke bawah).Demikian pula sebaliknya, kalo pas harga naek2 (drastis) memang relatif susah waktu 'nguber2 belinya -- apalagi kalo ditambahi dg emosi lg - tapi, ya itu kita memang harus melakukan sesuatu (namanya juga 'usaha'). :) Kalo lihat hasil akhirnya market (- 20-an, 4 T) - kayaknya business as usual saja, ya (spt profit bookings biasa saja) - dampaknya ternyata tidak spt yg orang kebanyakan bayangkan2/kuatirkan2 semula setelah berjalannya waktu Regards, Aria -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Cowok Sent: 28 Februari 2007 15:45 To: saham@yahoogroups.com Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IS IT TRUE? Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah. Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang dalam jumlah besar. Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli lagi dibawah. Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg dibuang si PERUSUH. Selalu dan selalu. Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita terlambat selangkah. Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH. Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak ada masalah besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain. PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN. TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya. Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind. _ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic- 14795097;_ylc=X3oDMTFtNW45amVp BF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BF9zAzI3MTk0ODEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA21haWx0YWdsaW5lBHNsawNxMS 0w Nw--%0d%0a Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] BRI Alokasikan Rp1 Triliun untuk Akuisisi Bank
BRI Alokasikan Rp1 Triliun untuk Akuisisi Bank - Rabu, 28 Februari 2007 18:20:50 StockWatch (Jakarta) - PT Bank Rakyat Indonesia Tbk atau Bank BRI (BBRI) berencana mengalokasikan investasi sekitar Rp1 triliun guna membiayai akuisisi atau penyertaan modal untuk perusahaan pembiayaan dan bank, kata Direktur Utama BRI, Sofyan Basir. Sofyan mengatakan dalam pernyataan tertulis ke BEJ hari ini (28/2) di Jakarta, rencana tersebut tertuang dalam Rencana Bisnis Bank (RBB) yang dikirimkan BRI ke Bank Indonesia. Rencana itu bertujuan untuk mengembangkan bisnis perbankan termasuk pengembangan bisnis syariah, katanya. Karena itu, BRI saat ini tengah melakukan kajian strategis terhadap beberapa bank target yang memiliki potensi untuk diakuisisi, namun Sofyan tidak menyebutkan nama-nama bank target tersebut. Jika berdasarkan kajian strategis yang telah dilakukan tersebut dinilai layak dan dapat memberikan hasil yang terbaik, maka BRI akan melakukan corporate action yang sesuai dengan ketentuan yang berlaku serta berupaya untuk mendapatkan persetujuan dari para pemegang saham dalam RUPS. Berdasarkan data StockWatch, BBRI melemah sebesar Rp25 pada penutupan pasar hari ini menjadi Rp4.750 per saham dengan volume perdagangan 33.360 lot senilai total Rp79,423 miliar. (abr) - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[obrolan-bandar] Rinaldi Firmansyah Dirut Baru Telkom
Rinaldi Firmansyah Dirut Baru Telkom - Rabu, 28 Februari 2007 18:38:04 StockWatch (Jakarta) - Rinaldi Firmansyah yang sebelumnya menjabat Direktur Keuangan PT Telkom Tbk (TLKM) diangkat menjadi direktur utama (dirut) yang baru menggantikan Arwin Rasyid. Demikian hasil keputusan RUPSLB Telkom, Rabu (28/2), setelah pemerintah selaku pemegang saham seri A dan saham mayoritas sebesar 51,19% mengusulkan nama-nama direksi yang baru. Dalam RUPSLB tersebut, sebanyak empat direksi lama mengajukan pengunduran diri. Mereka adalah Arwin Rasyid, Garuda Sugardo, John Welly, Guntur Siregar. Adapun komposisi direksi Telkom yang baru adalah Rinaldi Firmansyah sebagai Direktur Utama, I Nyoman GW selaku Direktur Network and Solution menggantikan Abdul Harris, dan Faisal Syah selaku Direktur SDM menggantikan John Welly. Bersamaan dengan itu, Ermadi Dahlan diangkat menjadi Direktur Konsumer menggantikan Guntur Siregar dan Sudiro Asno sebagai Direktur Keuangan. Selain itu juga diangkat pula Indra Utoyo sebagai Chief Information and Technology dan Prasetio selaku Compliance and Risk Management Director. (sup) - Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.
[obrolan-bandar] RUPSLB Tolak Rencana EMSOP Telkom
RUPSLB Tolak Rencana EMSOP Telkom - Rabu, 28 Februari 2007 17:47:51 StockWatch (Jakarta) - Para pemegang saham PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia Tbk (Telkom) dalam Rapat Umum Pemegang Saham Luar Biasa (RUPSLB) memutuskan untuk tidak menyetujui rencana perseroan melaksanakan penerbitan saham dalam rangka management employee stock option plan (EMSOP). RUPSLB Telkom yang diadakan hari ini (28/2) tidak menyetujui usulan direksi yang telah mendapat rekomendasi komisaris untuk menggunakan 51.150.750 lembar saham EMSOP dari kata Tanri Abeng, Komisaris Utama Telkom. Sebelumnya, direksi mengusulkan rencana penerbitan EMSOP dengan jumlah hak opsi yang diterbitkan sebanyak 51.150.750 lembar dengan masa lima tahun sejak opsi diterbitkan. EMSOP tersebut diusulkan dengan menggunakan saham dari hasil pembelian kembali saham (share buyback). Rencananya, saham EMSOP tersebut akan diterbitkan dalam dua tahap, yakni tahap pertama sebanyak 45.991.500 lembar dan sisanya pada tahap kedua. Selain itu juga dilaporkan bahwa hingga 27 Februari 2007 perseroan telah merealisasikan pembelian kembali (buy back) saham sebanyak 166.665.500 lembar atau sekitar 16,53% dari total maksimal yang diijinkan. Sementara dalam RUPSLB hari ini disetjui perpanjangan masa jabatan komisaris Telkom dari tiga menjadi lima tahun hingga Maret 2009, sehingga komposisi komisaris Telkom terdiri dari Tanri Abeng selaku Komisaris Utama dan Anggito Abimanyu dan Gatot Trihargo selaku komisaris serta Arif Arryman dan P Sartono sebagai komisaris independen. (sup) - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon
amin, mbah.. moga2 kita semua gak cuma sekedar survive tapi juga develop capital di bej. index ke 5000 msh memungkinkan, dan semuanya senang.. daripada index dibanting ke 1550 hehee.. pasti bakal banyak yg kapok dagang di bej. trading di bej bikin awet muda, krn si boss selalu penuh improvisasi.. student of market mau ngga mau harus belajar terus ama mr market. hari ini falling window, tapi berupa big white candle.. menarik untuk disimak kelanjutannya. GBU On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:15:22 +0700, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dalam keadaan HECTIC begini, anda masih tetap RASIONIL dan COOL VETERAN never dies in the market unless dipangil yg diatas... hehehe Semoga panjang umur dan hokienya berlimpah ditahun BABI yang banyak guyuran air hujan (katanya banyak rezekinya). Jadi meskipun DIGEBUK ama BOZZ pagi ini, malah untung Mudah mudahan GUYURAN siBOZZ pagi ini (TANPA BARANG !!!) adalah angpao dari siBOZZ sebagai 'TANDA' awal dari BABI BASAH yang penuh dengan keberuntungan semoga Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Transfer from your equities account. Receive up to $1,000 from GFT. Click here to learn more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/aZttyC/X_xQAA/cosFAA/zMEolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] udah bulan maret nih
Grafik2 pada menarik, Dow + so far, pengumuman bej: lapkeu auto, aali, bnli biasa aja. Tapi ada berita sswj, selain pipa paralel pagardewa labuhan maringgai, semua otre2 saja. Selain PGAS, yang berkaitan apa nih? KIJA? SMRA kemaren menjulang sendirian napa ya? Volume biasa, frekuensi tipis, mana abis banjir. Properti udah lama nih nggak gerak. CTRA memble abis. KIJA angat2 tahi ayam. Kalau laju pembangunan di Cina melambat, dolar melemah, dar der dor bisa pada turun nih, tapi pemerintah emang mau rupiah kemahalan?... sektor pertambangan bisa terpukul, perkebunan juga rada nyengir. Apa tekstil bisa bangkit lagi? POLY dan MYRX bikin keributan sendiri. bulan baru, harapan, kepusingan, dan portofolio baru (yang daytrader sih ganti saban hari ya)
[obrolan-bandar] Tome To Buy? Saya kira artikel dibawah ini berlaku juga terhadap IHSG
Artikel New Yorlk Times ini sangat bagus untuk mereka yg belum mengetahui strategi yang dimaksud. Coba bandingkan dengan IHSG pada waktu-waktu yg lalau dimana dia jatuh cukup dalam. Time to buy? 28 Feb 2007 If history is any guide, the recent global equity market bleeding presents long-term investors with a buying opportunity. Wall Street lives by the adage that investors should buy when there is blood in the streets. While market players may be a superstitious bunch, in this case it's a maxim that has been borne out over time. Rather than run from Tuesday's blood-letting, which saw the Dow sink more than 400 points, long-term investors may do well to chase what history suggests is a time to buy The Dow Jones industrial average was already bouncing back on Wednesday, making it easier to put the previous day's sell-off in perspective. In terms of points, Tuesday's 416-point decline was the steepest the market has fallen since a nearly 685-point drop on Sept. 17, 2001 - the first day of trading after the 9/11 attacks. In terms of percent, the Dow's 3.29 percent fall was the largest since Sept. 27, 2002's 3.70 percent retreat. Tuesday's point decline is the seventh largest over the last 50 years. ( http://dai.investor.reuters.com/data/files/DJIA.xls Click here for an Excel sheet of the historical closing values of the Dow.) Date Point Decline Period 1: Sept. 17 2001 -684.81 Period 2: Apr. 14 2000 -617.78 Period 3: Oct. 27 1997 -554.26 Period 4: Aug. 31 1998 -512.61 Period 5: Oct. 19 1987 -507.99 Period 6: Mar. 12 2001 -436.37 Period 7: Feb. 27 2007 -416.02 Remember, though, that the Dow has been near an all-time high, so the percent decline is not nearly as bad given the magnitude of the point fall. In fact, over the last 50 years, there were 33 worse trading days in terms of percentage declines. The question we need to answer is what we can expect for the markets going forward? While past performance is no guarantee of future returns, we can still look at history as our guide. We focused on the six larger point declines over the last 50 years and examined the performance of the Dow during the one-month and one-year periods that followed the drop. In the event that the market was closed exactly one month or one year ahead, we looked at the next trading day. We found that, on average, the Dow posted solid returns. First, notice that the Dow has generally been higher one month after one of these sell-offs, with an average gain of more than 4 percent. 1 Month Performance Starting Value Ending Value Percent Change Period 1: Sept. 17 2001 - Oct. 17 2001 8920.70 9232.97 3.50% Period 2: Apr. 14 2000 - May 15 2000 10305.77 10807.78 4.87% Period 3: Oct. 27 1997 - Nov. 28 1997 7161.15 7823.13 9.24% Period 4: Aug. 31 1998 - Oct. 1 1998 7539.07 7632.53 1.24% Period 5: Oct. 19 1987 - Nov. 19 1987 1738.74 1895.39 9.01% Period 6: Mar. 12 2001 - Apr. 12 2001 10208.25 10126.94 -0.80% Average NA NA 4.51% Keep in mind that investing is a long-term process and investors who have stuck it out longer have usually fared well: The Dow has returned, on average, about 12 percent in the year following these six other sell-offs. 1 Year Performance Starting Value Ending Value Percent Change Period 1: Sept. 17 2001 - Sept. 17 2002 8920.70 8207.55 -7.99% Period 2: Apr. 14 2000 - Apr. 16 2001 10305.77 10158.56 -1.43% Period 3: Oct. 27 1997 - Oct. 27 1998 7161.15 8366.04 10.97% Period 4: Aug. 31 1998 - Aug. 31 1999 7539.07 10829.28 43.64% Period 5: Oct. 19 1987 - Oct. 19 1988 1738.74 2137.27 22.92% Period 6: Mar. 12 2001 - Mar. 12 2002 10208.25 10632.35 4.15% Average NA NA 12.04% Again, there is nothing to say that the Dow will be higher one month or even one year from now. There are many factors that suggest easing economic growth, such as Wednesday's http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN2742022620070228 downward revision in GDP figures, which could adversely impact stock prices. But history suggests that investors may want to take advantage of the lower stock prices to add positions they've had their eye on. Blood-letting may be scary, but it can be good. At the time of publication, Erik Dellith did not directly own shares of any company mentioned in this article. He may be an owner, albeit indirectly, as an investor in a mutual fund or an Exchange Traded Fund. Ratman Now Everyone Can Trade Believe The Unbelievable,Dream The Impossible, Don't Take No for An Answer http://www.j-club.biz
[obrolan-bandar] China batuk yang lain ikut demam
Sekarang bukan DOW saja yang penyakitnya bisa menular. China kentut pun baunya sekarang bisa sampai kemana-mana. Kta bisa baca dalam artikel dibawah ini bagaimana DOW sempat terkapar karena bau kentutnya Shanghai. Kesimpulan : Watch juga China, jangan DOW dan Nikkei saja. China Coughs and the World Catches a Cold By D.R. Barton, Jr. Yesterday (Tuesday, 2/27/2007) was a truly extraordinary day in the equity markets. Here's how unusual this drop was: it's only the fifth time in 100 years that the DJIA has gone from trading above its 50-day moving average on one day to dropping below the lows of the past 50 days the next. In other words, it was higher than the average price over the prior 50 days, and all of the sudden it wiped out all the gains from those days in just one single day (thanks to Jason Goepfert's excellent work for the statistics). Here's another way to look at yesterday's trading - in one day, the market wiped out almost four months of bull run, dating back to the beginning of last November (in the futures). This was no ordinary move. But even with all of the extremes presented by the market's activity, we have to keep some perspective. The market was only down 3.47% yesterday (for the SP 500 cash index). And to be considered a correction (which is generally considered to be a 10% pullback), we would need to travel another 6% from here, all the way down to 1315.41 to move 10% from the highs. Today's trading (as of 2:00) has given us an inside day (the highs of today are lower and lows of today are higher than yesterday's trading). But we are trading in the bottom third of yesterday's range. While the market could do many things from here, the extreme overbought levels that peaked late last week have only been partially relieved. A very likely scenario is that Tuesday's huge drop was the trigger for a larger-scale pullback. In that scenario, Wednesday's trading has predictably slower trading while the market catches it's breath. A close below yesterday's low (1389.42 on the SP 500 cash index) should make everyone take notice that this round of selling is not over. But until that time, the bulls can rest a bit easier. Great Trading! D. R. D. R. Barton, Jr. will be teaching our New Professional E-Mini Futures Tactics Workshop, March 3-5, Raleigh NC. He will be joined by ace trader Christopher Castroviejo. To see what D.R. says about Christopher, click http://www.iitm.com/Weekly_update/Weekly_307_Jan_31_2007.htm#feature here. A passion for the systematic approach to the markets and lifelong love of teaching and learning have propelled D.R. Barton, Jr. to the top of the investment and trading arena where he is one of the most widely read and followed traders and analysts in the world. He is a regularly featured guest analyst on both Report on Business TV, and WTOP News Radio in Washington, D. C., and has been a guest analyst on Bloomberg Radio. His articles have appeared on SmartMoney.com and Financial Advisor magazine. Ratman Now Everyone Can Trade Believe The Unbelievable,Dream The Impossible, Don't Take No for An Answer http://www.j-club.biz