[obrolan-bandar] Re: My view on Indonesia and IDX specifically

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kang_ocoy_maen_saham" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A Note Of Courage from the Good Ol "Everybody's Favorite" Manga. We 
> Will Overcome this Turbulences., For Sure...
SIP : HENDRIK
welcome back kang...
i'm so sorry about yesterday...

i miss you.. ^^

[obrolan-bandar] tlkm

[swan silo]

mungkinkah  tlkm ke 7000?.atau 7300 sudah lowest?


  

RE: [obrolan-bandar] tlkm

[Prasetyo, Hani]

Not yet...Entry point 6500...

 



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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] tlkm

 

mungkinkah  tlkm ke 7000?.atau 7300 sudah lowest?

 

 



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[obrolan-bandar] Europe open @ green, DJIA Fut too

[gdbrook]

Can JCI go lower ?

gdbrook

[obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Prasetyo, Hani" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Not yet...Entry point 6500...
> 
>  
 
SIP : HENDRIK
mine is 6000
chart :
http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/06/tlkm-update-macd-bearish.html

good news for telko :
http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/06/teleco-sing-song-for-rp-24-
triliun.html

[obrolan-bandar] PGAS

[er1ck]

PGAS---*pelan2x ga usah napsuu*  , nunggu balik dulu ke 13.500 titik
hornih-nya ada di situuh :-))

Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Gw sih udah colek2 jumat kemaren, barusan buang di 13rb

hehehe mayan lah buat tambal2in yang nyangkut

turun, sikat lagi.
naik, masih ada yg tungguin di atas

2008/6/30 er1ck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> PGAS---*pelan2x ga usah napsuu*  , nunggu balik dulu ke 13.500 titik
> hornih-nya ada di situuh :-))

Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS

[Adam Rajsha]

sama Pak, saya mah udah perkosa abis jumat kemaren, ketika dia terletang
menantang di 12750an...

kayaknya dia mo horni terus ke 14000an tuch...;)


On 6/30/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Gw sih udah colek2 jumat kemaren, barusan buang di 13rb
>
> hehehe mayan lah buat tambal2in yang nyangkut
>
> turun, sikat lagi.
> naik, masih ada yg tungguin di atas
>
> 2008/6/30 er1ck <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
> > PGAS---*pelan2x ga usah napsuu* , nunggu balik dulu ke 13.500 titik
> > hornih-nya ada di situuh :-))
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] Penumpang ASII udah pada naik semua belum ???

[Tom DS]

*Dear OB-ers,*
**
*Para penumpang ASII udah pada naik semua belum 
Kereta menuju stasiun terdekat 22000 yg melewati perhentian pertama di
stasiun 21000 siap2 jalan (kalau nggak ada halangan lampu merah inflasi
besok).*
*Perhentian akhir tahun di 27000-28000 siap menunggu.*
**
**
*T.o.m*

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Selamat Bagi Pemegang ASRI-W

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Neng Asri-w udah terkapar 3 hari gak bisa bangun lagi tuh pak Agoes.

Cuma kapan ke 13 ya :D


2008/6/26 agoes_htm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ntar juga membal lagi, pak AA. hehehhe...
>
> Salam,
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> pak Agoes, udah di 23 neh
>> hehehe
>>
>> -10 lagi :D
>>
>> 2008/6/25 agoes_htm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > Balik lagi ke 26, pak. hehhehehe:) Ini menandakan buying pressure
>> > yang ga mau dia tutup di bawah 25 atau bahkan 20.
>> >
>> > Salam,
>> >
>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 24 nih pak Agoes.
>> >>
>> >> Come down babeee. Come closer
>> >>
>> >> 2008/6/25 agoes_htm :
>> >> > 25 aja susah ditembus, pak. Bakalan susah kayaknya dpt di bawah 20,
>> >> > hehhee...
>> >> >
>> >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Saya tunggu di 13 lah pak Agus :D

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Selamat Bagi Pemegang ASRI-W

[agoes_htm]

Gak bisa turun ke bawah 20 kecuali index crash ke 2000 :)

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Neng Asri-w udah terkapar 3 hari gak bisa bangun lagi tuh pak Agoes.
> 
> Cuma kapan ke 13 ya :D
> 
> 
> 2008/6/26 agoes_htm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Ntar juga membal lagi, pak AA. hehehhe...
> >
> > Salam,
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> pak Agoes, udah di 23 neh
> >> hehehe
> >>
> >> -10 lagi :D
> >>
> >> 2008/6/25 agoes_htm :
> >> > Balik lagi ke 26, pak. hehhehehe:) Ini menandakan buying 
pressure
> >> > yang ga mau dia tutup di bawah 25 atau bahkan 20.
> >> >
> >> > Salam,
> >> >
> >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> 24 nih pak Agoes.
> >> >>
> >> >> Come down babeee. Come closer
> >> >>
> >> >> 2008/6/25 agoes_htm :
> >> >> > 25 aja susah ditembus, pak. Bakalan susah kayaknya dpt di 
bawah 20,
> >> >> > hehhee...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim 
abdulrahim"
> >> >> >  wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Saya tunggu di 13 lah pak Agus :D
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS AND MIRA

[Vic]

tins unjuk gigi dibilangin bad hehehe
ada news apa sih sebetulnya? apa krn udah deket split n dividen?



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> TINS : (BAD) TANPA INTAN NURAINI SANTAI AJA
> http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/06/tins-update.html
> 
> MIRA : Wait Break Out : Mama Ingin Rawon Aja
> http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/06/mira-wait-break-out-800.html
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS AND MIRA

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> tins unjuk gigi dibilangin bad hehehe
> ada news apa sih sebetulnya? apa krn udah deket split n dividen?
> 
SIP : HENDRIK
ada ahli TA yang bisa bantu... chat sebleum hari ini ngga begitu bagus..
tiba - tiba hari ini break out.. tapi dengan volume yang kecil

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS AND MIRA

[Vic]

volume sama kayak rata2 3 bulan. tapi kalau dibanding yg kemarin2,
hari ini jauh lebih gede.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Vic"  
> wrote:
> >
> > tins unjuk gigi dibilangin bad hehehe
> > ada news apa sih sebetulnya? apa krn udah deket split n dividen?
> > 
> SIP : HENDRIK
> ada ahli TA yang bisa bantu... chat sebleum hari ini ngga begitu bagus..
> tiba - tiba hari ini break out.. tapi dengan volume yang kecil
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: My view on Indonesia and IDX specifically

[JsxTrader]

Nice to see you back kang 

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from XL GPRS network

-Original Message-
From: "kang_ocoy_maen_saham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:42:23 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: My view on Indonesia and IDX specifically


A Note Of Courage from the Good Ol "Everybody's Favorite" Manga. We 
Will Overcome this Turbulences., For Sure...




Vegeta: "[when Goku was fighting 1-on-1 with Buu, to himself]" 
Amazing, how do you do it Kakarot? You've always been like this, ever 
since the day I first met you, always ready to meet the next 
challenge, even if it's bigger than you are! It was the same on 
namek, you had improved so much that it made Recoome look like he was 
standing still! Your power had increased so dramatically since our 
battle on earth that I thought you had done it. I thought - that you 
had become... a super saiyan! It tore me apart! How could a low class 
soldier accomplish so easily what I, I had struggled my whole life to 
achieve! After 3 millenia it has finally happened! A new super saiyan 
has emerged! And somehow, I have become this pompous witness! Then at 
last it happened, I too transformed. After living every moment of 
every day for the singular purpose of surpassing you - I finally 
became a super saiyan myself. The prince had reclaimed his throne and 
fulfilled his destiny! But no matter how strong I became, your power 
still exceeded mine! At first I thought it was your loved ones, that 
it was your instinct to protect them that spurred you on, and pushed 
you beyond your limits! But then I found myself with a family of my 
own. And my power didn't increase at all... I used to fight for the 
sheer pleasure of it, for the thrill of the hunt! Oh I had the 
strength unnestled. I spared no one. And yet, you showed mercy to 
everyone, even your fiercest enemies... even me! Yet you never fought 
to kill, or for revenge, only to test your limits, and to push 
yourself beyond them, to become the strongest you could possibly be! 
How could a saiyan fight like that and at the same time be so gentle 
that he wouldn't hurt a fly. It makes me angry just thinking about 
it! But, perhaps it is my anger that has made me blind to the truth 
for so long, I see it now, this day has made it all too clear. You're 
better than me Kakarot, you're the best. 








--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> *No need to rush, just exploit the general market weakness. Let's 
say if a
> stock has a highest price of 1000, you can try to pick them at 500. 
If its
> highest is at 12000 then 6000-7000 is a good buy. If it was 5000 
then
> 2500-3000 is what I call oversold. If it was 34000 then my final 
buy point
> will be 16000. Most big cap stocks tend to go flat after they 
decline more
> than -40% (or even rebound very fast like Bumi Resources and 
Indotambang..
> my wildcards).
> 
> I agree now is still bear market, but I'd like to quote Mr. 
Buffett "buy
> stocks that you feel comfortable when the market shuts down for ten 
years or
> so". (i forgot the exact phrase, but you get the idea) but somehow 
I feel
> most of you are gamblers, not true investors lol...
> 
> Now help me spread the fear so my target will come sooner... ^_^ 
Mungkin ada
> tanya apa Elaine yangkut? Elaine jawab pasti ada kalau IDX went 
below 2100
> (I hope it wont go that far), tetapi Elaine consistent 1-2 years 
from now I
> will get like 100% gain to say the least.
> 
> Elaine tahu banyak member kesal dengan posting Elaine sounds 
arrogant and
> misleading. I did that on purpose. What purpose? lol you don't have 
to know
> that. The funny thing is, when I post something something ugly here 
(I mean
> REAL fucking ugly both in content or wording), the market shows some
> volatility increase (intraday), is OB really that big? Not just me, 
when
> Embah says something bold enough, it also shows immediate impact to 
market
> volatility.
> 
> I guess OB indeed represents the market itself. Fascinating...
> 
> Elaine**
> *





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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: My view on Indonesia and IDX specifically

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Iya neh kang. welkam bek.

Mong ngomong, dragon ball seh jamannya an..
Sekarang mah jamannya Naruto, bwat anak gw ... dan Aang bwat bapaknya... hehehe

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:42 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A Note Of Courage from the Good Ol "Everybody's Favorite" Manga. We
> Will Overcome this Turbulences., For Sure...
>
> Vegeta: "[when Goku was fighting 1-on-1 with Buu, to himself]"
> Amazing, how do you do it Kakarot? You've always been like this, ever
> since the day I first met you, always ready to meet the next
> challenge, even if it's bigger than you are! It was the same on
> namek, you had improved so much that it made Recoome look like he was
> standing still! Your power had increased so dramatically since our
> battle on earth that I thought you had done it. I thought - that you
> had become... a super saiyan! It tore me apart! How could a low class
> soldier accomplish so easily what I, I had struggled my whole life to
> achieve! After 3 millenia it has finally happened! A new super saiyan
> has emerged! And somehow, I have become this pompous witness! Then at
> last it happened, I too transformed. After living every moment of
> every day for the singular purpose of surpassing you - I finally
> became a super saiyan myself. The prince had reclaimed his throne and
> fulfilled his destiny! But no matter how strong I became, your power
> still exceeded mine! At first I thought it was your loved ones, that
> it was your instinct to protect them that spurred you on, and pushed
> you beyond your limits! But then I found myself with a family of my
> own. And my power didn't increase at all... I used to fight for the
> sheer pleasure of it, for the thrill of the hunt! Oh I had the
> strength unnestled. I spared no one. And yet, you showed mercy to
> everyone, even your fiercest enemies... even me! Yet you never fought
> to kill, or for revenge, only to test your limits, and to push
> yourself beyond them, to become the strongest you could possibly be!
> How could a saiyan fight like that and at the same time be so gentle
> that he wouldn't hurt a fly. It makes me angry just thinking about
> it! But, perhaps it is my anger that has made me blind to the truth
> for so long, I see it now, this day has made it all too clear. You're
> better than me Kakarot, you're the best.
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> *No need to rush, just exploit the general market weakness. Let's
>
> say if a
>> stock has a highest price of 1000, you can try to pick them at 500.
> If its
>> highest is at 12000 then 6000-7000 is a good buy. If it was 5000
> then
>> 2500-3000 is what I call oversold. If it was 34000 then my final
> buy point
>> will be 16000. Most big cap stocks tend to go flat after they
> decline more
>> than -40% (or even rebound very fast like Bumi Resources and
> Indotambang..
>> my wildcards).
>>
>> I agree now is still bear market, but I'd like to quote Mr.
> Buffett "buy
>> stocks that you feel comfortable when the market shuts down for ten
> years or
>> so". (i forgot the exact phrase, but you get the idea) but somehow
> I feel
>> most of you are gamblers, not true investors lol...
>>
>> Now help me spread the fear so my target will come sooner... ^_^
> Mungkin ada
>> tanya apa Elaine yangkut? Elaine jawab pasti ada kalau IDX went
> below 2100
>> (I hope it wont go that far), tetapi Elaine consistent 1-2 years
> from now I
>> will get like 100% gain to say the least.
>>
>> Elaine tahu banyak member kesal dengan posting Elaine sounds
> arrogant and
>> misleading. I did that on purpose. What purpose? lol you don't have
> to know
>> that. The funny thing is, when I post something something ugly here
> (I mean
>> REAL fucking ugly both in content or wording), the market shows some
>> volatility increase (intraday), is OB really that big? Not just me,
> when
>> Embah says something bold enough, it also shows immediate impact to
> market
>> volatility.
>>
>> I guess OB indeed represents the market itself. Fascinating...
>>
>> Elaine**
>> *

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update

[Halim Mintareja]

Yup..berita di bloomberg juga seperti itu

lowest bet (open position) on oil already at 15 years low

Dengan kata lain volume divergence.

Tapi bukan berarti gak bisa naik lho cuman mungkin peak oil akan
tercapai tahun ini.

Lalu soal pendapat bursa akan bullish kalau oil turun. Saya sih tidak
sependapat. Kalau komoditas turun...bursa cuman teknikal rebound kemudian
melanjutkan bearishnya.

Just sharing
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:43 PM, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Pak, volume crude oil di chart saya cenderung turun terus.., terjadi
> divergence negative dgn harga..., data dari reuters code [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Penumpang ASII udah pada naik semua belum ???

[Juragan Cumi]

Nyari tiket diskon belum dapet euy. 19,100 gak dapet, 19 pas apalagi

Salam,
Cumi-cumi segar enak lezaat bergizi

2008/6/30 Tom DS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  *Dear OB-ers,*
> **
> *Para penumpang ASII udah pada naik semua belum 
> Kereta menuju stasiun terdekat 22000 yg melewati perhentian pertama di
> stasiun 21000 siap2 jalan (kalau nggak ada halangan lampu merah inflasi
> besok).*
> *Perhentian akhir tahun di 27000-28000 siap menunggu.*
> **
> **
> *T.o.m*
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Penumpang ASII udah pada naik semua belum ???

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Juragan Cumi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Nyari tiket diskon belum dapet euy. 19,100 gak dapet, 19 pas apalagi
> 
> Salam,
> Cumi-cumi segar enak lezaat bergizi
> 
SIP : HENDRIK
weleh2 masih kurang diskon tuh pak..
turbo udah diisi NOS juga...
bahkan Kripton pun juga udah diisi...

tinggal distater ama supirnya aja.. langsug terbang... ^^

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update

[Elaine Sui]

*Oil price is mainly driven by two kind of news, Fundamental and incidental.
Fundamental issues are like Oil Reserve, production, USD valuation, off
shore drilling plan (still banned by the US senate). The others are
incidental issues like "Prez X says war against America", "Y militant rebels
attack oil wells", "tanker Z has delayed transportation because of storm",
etc

I see most of the news about oil recently are incidental, which is
fundamentally weak, in other words, can be reversed easily (with another
incidental good news). The other thing is USD is well maintained since April
against Euro and Yen.

I know, in the long run crude oil is still bullish but not at this pace. US
economy is currently still weak so I guess the only reason why it's still
lingering above $140 is only because of SPECULATION. And you know who did
this. Yeah, those banks who get smacked down by credit crunch.

Just my 2 cents, so no disclaimer.. lol..


Elaine**
*
2008/6/30 JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> DOW jatuh karena harga minyak naik.., jadi kalau minyak turun
harusnya DOW rebound.., begitu kah? sebab SEPINTAS saya melihat ada
tanda-tanda minyak akan koreksi (pls see attachment).
>
> Meskipun MACD baru saja goldencross & Candle membentuk pola bullish
engulfing dua bar sebelumnya, tapi saya juga melihat ada divergence negative
antara price dgn macd & volume..., mudah2an tarikan garis saya cukup
obyektif dan tdk dipengaruhi oleh harapan saya... he.he
>
> Any Comment? Pak Tasrul, Pak Alfatih, and Others.
>
> Salam,
> JsxTrader
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Tasrul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:43:08
> Subject: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update
>
> DOW 27 Juni 06 tutup di 11,346.51,ada peluang untuk reversal (lihat target
MACD…kemungkinan pertama  di 11,346.21).. jika tidak mampu reversal maka
target berikut di 10,758.75
>
>
>
> Juga terlampir DJIA untuk posisi akhir (27 Juni 08)
>
>
>
> Tasrul
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> From: Tasrul
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:16 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
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> Subject: DJIA Update
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> Dear All,
>
>
>
> Peluang penurunan DJIA meskipun terlihat masih ada namun peluang
penurunannya makin kecil. Support terdekat di 11,346.26 dan jika ini tembus
berpeluang ke 10,758.75, Semua indikator kecuali MACD Optimasi (yakni W%R
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm

[Elaine Sui]

*Elaine sudah BUY Telkom when it reached <7300, kalau turun I will average
down.

Elaine**
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On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:38 PM, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Prasetyo, Hani"
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> SIP : HENDRIK
> mine is 6000
> chart :
> http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/06/tlkm-update-macd-bearish.html
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> good news for telko :
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update

[Prasetyo, Hani]

Oil will hit USD 150 soon. DOW will go lower from the current level. I
expect < 11000.

Weak global financial markets and USD triggered global commodity
inflation as BIG FM moved their fund from financial markets.

Only once all subprime mortgage losses are fully identified and written
off. DOW will start recovery.

It will happen on 4Q this year or early next year along with the new US
president election as it will reduce uncertainties.

6 months to go... get rest and relax my dear El...

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elaine Sui
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:14 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update

 

Oil price is mainly driven by two kind of news, Fundamental and
incidental. Fundamental issues are like Oil Reserve, production, USD
valuation, off shore drilling plan (still banned by the US senate). The
others are incidental issues like "Prez X says war against America", "Y
militant rebels attack oil wells", "tanker Z has delayed transportation
because of storm", etc

I see most of the news about oil recently are incidental, which is
fundamentally weak, in other words, can be reversed easily (with another
incidental good news). The other thing is USD is well maintained since
April against Euro and Yen.

I know, in the long run crude oil is still bullish but not at this pace.
US economy is currently still weak so I guess the only reason why it's
still lingering above $140 is only because of SPECULATION. And you know
who did this. Yeah, those banks who get smacked down by credit crunch.

Just my 2 cents, so no disclaimer.. lol..


Elaine

2008/6/30 JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >:
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> DOW jatuh karena harga minyak naik.., jadi kalau minyak turun harusnya
DOW rebound.., begitu kah? sebab SEPINTAS saya melihat ada tanda-tanda
minyak akan koreksi (pls see attachment).
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> Meskipun MACD baru saja goldencross & Candle membentuk pola bullish
engulfing dua bar sebelumnya, tapi saya juga melihat ada divergence
negative antara price dgn macd & volume..., mudah2an tarikan garis saya
cukup obyektif dan tdk dipengaruhi oleh harapan saya... he.he
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> Any Comment? Pak Tasrul, Pak Alfatih, and Others.
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> Salam,
> JsxTrader
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> DOW 27 Juni 06 tutup di 11,346.51,ada peluang untuk reversal (lihat
target MACD...kemungkinan pertama  di 11,346.21).. jika tidak mampu
reversal maka target berikut di 10,758.75
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Yp etrading diketahui orang, berbahaya kah???

[Saham Oke]

Untuk atasi hal tersebut setiap jam 16 lakukan Print screen dan save, setiap 
pagi cocokkan kembali.

Segala kemungkina bisa terjadi, tetapi kan ada 2 pasowrd transakasi dan login 
berbeda.

--- On Mon, 6/30/08, freez z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: freez z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Yp etrading diketahui orang, berbahaya kah???
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 12:52 AM











Berbahayakah kalau yp etradingkita  diketahui orang lain??? Pernah  
ga teman2 di milis ini mengalamai hal2 yang tidak diinginkan misalnya?  
accountnya di hack oleh orang lain?,saham kita di jual habis kemudian  uangnya 
di tranfer ke tempat lain dll.
   

  
  




 

















  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] HOT BF in the bear market......Re: HOT BF (in the past)

[retsu782000]

Kode K L J pada *QTR 1 2008 RESULT *di
http://www.investdata.net/memberitahu apa ya?

Re: [obrolan-bandar] CPRO = Cahaya Pengharapan Raibnya Optimisme

[Resa]

maaf. BF itu maksudnya apa ya?

thanks
 


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Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:36:35
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] CPRO = Cahaya Pengharapan Raibnya Optimisme


Tunggu aja Cpro, tahun depan cuan double (200%).  He..he..
Sekarang kan lagi musimnya BF, semuanya kode saham bisa dicari 
padanannya.
Salam Cuan wuaah.



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[obrolan-bandar] Astra Graphia Kendalikan SAT

[Parama Nandana]

 




Astra Graphia Kendalikan SAT

Senin, 30 Juni 2008
Jakarta (Indofinanz) - PT Astra Graphia Tbk (ASGR) dan Singapore Computer 
Systems Limited (SCS Limited) telah menandatangani perjanjian pembelian saham 
bersyarat dan pengakhiran perjanjian patungan (conditional share purchase and 
joint venture termination agreement/CSPA) dimana anak perusahaan PT Astra 
International Tbk itu akan membeli seluruh saham kepemilikan SCS di PT SCS 
Astragraphia Technologies (SAT) sebanyak 39.270 saham atau 51 persen dari modal 
disetor SAT. Presiden Direktur ASGR, dalam laporannya di keterbukaan informasi 
ke Bursa Efek Indonesia, Jumat (27/06), mengatakan, perseroan tinggal menunggu 
persetujuan dari Rapat Umum Pemegang Saham (RUPS) atas transaksit tersebut. 
  


  

[obrolan-bandar] UDAH ADA INFLOW YA MBAH.....

[rangga_the_demon]

BIARPUN CUMA SEUPIL..hikhikhikhik6% doang...???eh sodara2...2 
pade kemane..hehehe.

[obrolan-bandar] Rizal Ramli Dilengserkan

[Parama Nandana]

 




Rizal Ramli Dilengserkan

Senin, 30 Juni 2008
Jakarta (Indofinanz) - Demo mahasiswa menentang kenaikan harga minyak yang 
berakhir rusuh beberapa hari lalu mulai menelan korban. Tak hanya sejumlah 
mahasiswa dan oknum di luar mahasiswa yang ditangkap, Rizal Ramli-pun ketiban 
getahnya. Ekonom yang sangat kritis ini dipaksa lengser dari jabatannya sebagai 
Komisaris Utama PT Semen Gresik Tbk (SMGR) karena dikait-kaitkan dengan aksi 
penolakan kenaikan harga BBM oleh Komite Indonesia Bangkit yang dipimpin Rizal. 
Sikap politik mantan menteri di era Presiden Gus Dur itu dinilai tak sejalan 
dengan keinginan pemerintah dan dianggap merusak citra SMGR. Padahal sejak 
Rizal menjadi Komisaris Utama-lah maka kinerja dan nilai perusahaan semen 
raksasa itu melambung mengalahkan PT Holcim Indonesi Tbk dan PT Indocement Tbk. 
Banyak kalangan menilai keputusan pemerintah ini sebagai tindakan paling konyol 
sejak jatuhnya orde baru. Dan ini dianggap sikap panik pemerintah dalam 
mengatasi lawan-lawan politik yang tidak
 sejalan. 


  

Re: Sekuritas meminjam dana Nasabah sebagai MODAL KERJA Sekuritas....Re: [obrolan-bandar] Surat pernyataan

[Prima Soerjono]

Bagaimana jika nasabah memilih begini : dari pada menanda tangani surat semacam 
itu,lebih baik tidak mendapat bunga (interest)? Apakah ini semacam option,atau 
persyaratan di sekuritas?
 
Trimakasih

--- On Mon, 6/30/08, M Alfatih <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: M Alfatih <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sekuritas meminjam dana Nasabah sebagai MODAL KERJA 
SekuritasRe: [obrolan-bandar] Surat pernyataan
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 12:22 AM







Ini cara legalitas, supaya dana cash nasabah bisa dikasih bunga.
Kalau enggak ada hubungan hukum seperti ini, apa alasannya
dana nasabah bisa dikasih bunga?

 
On 6/23/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim  wrote: 





Apa Trimegah gak malu ya?

2008/6/23 alegowo <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>:
> Perhatikan secara detail pada poin 1 :
>
> ..menyatakan dan menyetujui serta mengetahui bahwa setiap saldo
> kredit dana yang terdapat dalam Rekening Efek PEMBERI PERNYATAAN
> tersebut dipinjamkan kepada Trimegah sebagai modal kerja Trimegah;
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> Mungkin rekan2 bisa komentar tentang Sekuritas yang meminjam dana
> nasabah sebagai MODAL KERJA Sekuritas... .
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Re: [obrolan-bandar]

[Bagus Megahtama]

Mr DE, Mr James, Mbah
Apa Kabarnya nich para Master Milis OB ??... apakah karena market lagi sepi 
atau lagi pada musim Liburan pada ngaciiirr semuanya ??
dalam prospek th 2008 kayaknya IHSG akan mengalami Stagflasi,... paling paling 
kenaikannya cuman 14% doank... kalah jauh dari th 2007.
untuk para Analis2 mana nich sumbangsih nya ???
Mr Yuga Analis Technical Pertama di Indonesia yang sampai sekarang bercokol di 
Danareksa.
Gimana Boss Yuga ??... ada coment nya di Market sekarang..
sepnyaris tak terdengar...

Salam buat teman2 di Danareksa...
Bravo


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Angin Segar Untuk Telkom ?

[Gerry Gunarto]

oppor ayam dimana-mana, tapi liquiditas ngumpul di gurun pasirrr..

-Gerry-


2008/6/29 Tom DS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>   *My comment, if you can get opportunity to buy at 7200-7300, don't waste
> it..*
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] pgas

[Sudi Mampir]

ntar aje dl bos, order guyurnya blm beres2 juga nih..ampe kesel nunggunya nih..
12750 juga kynya dikasih tuh..amieen..ngantri disana ah..hehehe


- Original Message 
From: abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:14:21 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] pgas


=))

Market gak jelas --> penghuni OB (bersama komandannya) jadi pada horny

2008/6/30 Adam Rajsha :
> hati2 Pak coleknya... bisa2 dia bales nabok..
> kemaren saya bukan lagi colek2 dia, tapi udah saya 'remes2', eh hari ini
> kayaknya dia mulai horni... :)
>
>
> On 6/30/08, swan silo  wrote:
>>
>> kliatannya boleh dicolek tuh
 


  

[obrolan-bandar] Fwd: Yahoo! News Story - Fund manager pays $2.1 million to lunch with Warren Buffett - Yahoo! News

[Francisca .]

Fund manager pays $2.1 million to lunch with Warren Buffett - Yahoo! News

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080629/ts_nm/buffett_lunch_dc_1

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: My view on Indonesia and IDX specifically

[OKI SINGGIH]

kok kayak BROKE BACK MOUNTAIN?

--- On Mon, 6/30/08, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: My view on Indonesia and IDX specifically
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 12:10 AM






--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "kang_ocoy_maen_ saham" 
 wrote:
>
> A Note Of Courage from the Good Ol "Everybody's Favorite" Manga. We 
> Will Overcome this Turbulences. , For Sure...
SIP : HENDRIK
welcome back kang...
i'm so sorry about yesterday...

i miss you.. ^^

 














  

[obrolan-bandar] ada apa dengan SRSN

[Vincentius Go]

dear all...
ada yg ngamati SRSN nga?

stlh bbrp hari badai habis2an.. koq sekar mulai menggeliat bangkit? tapi yg 
beli koq sekuritas itu2 aja???

mohon info lebih lengkap

[obrolan-bandar] Skenario Perbankan ???

[Vincentius Go]

Dear All,

menurut i, perbankan ada 2 skenario:

- Sekarang di "sanjung2" dikit, ntar tanggal 2Jul langsung dijebloskan ke dasar 
laut...
- para banker's kelas kakap udah dapet bocoran kl inflasi juli masih di bawah 
expectasi pasar.. jadi mereka naik duluan, dgn pemimpin BBCA dan BBRI

nah... bagi yg berkompeten ber-surfing berita, mohon pencerahan, skr kita ada 
di posisi mana?

happy pusying..
-Vincent Go-

[obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm

[Petualang Saham]

Beneran nih, ga salah narik CHART Pak Hendrik...
He.. he.. he..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Prasetyo, Hani" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Not yet...Entry point 6500...
> > 
> >  
>  
> SIP : HENDRIK
> mine is 6000
> chart :
> http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/06/tlkm-update-macd-bearish.html
> 
> good news for telko :
> http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/06/teleco-sing-song-for-rp-24-
> triliun.html
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Monitornya Bandar

[Coanks Love]

Pak alfatih,
Bisa minta pencerahannya Pak, gimana cara Kita supaya bisa lihat sisa berapa
lot lagi didepan antrian Kita?  Untuk informasi saya pake HOTS..
Thanks sebelumnya..

Salam,
CL
 
---Original Message---
 
From: M Alfatih
Date: 6/30/2008 10:30:28 coanks
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Monitornya Bandar
 
Bandar tidak tahu siapa yang antri, tapi dia bisa lihat (dan kita juga)
antrian yang masuk berapa lot dan kapan.
Dia bisa lihat tinggal berapa lot lagi yang ada didepan antrian dia 
(yang kita juga bisa lihat).
Kalau ada 3000 lot, order utuh didepan dia, maka dia tinggal colek
aja 1 lot untuk tahu siapa (broker mana) yang antri depan dia.

 
On 6/29/08, hidayat. ardiansyah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Yang terpenting, most likely Bandar adalah contrariant =)
 
They cut you rules, and they play their rules.
 
 
 
 
-HA-

 
On 6/27/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Temans OB,

Share dong apa aja yang bisa dimonitor oleh bandar, yang retailer gak
bisa monitor.

Yang kepikiran ama gw baru satu:
1. detail antrian. Misalnya bandar bisa tau siapa (sekuritas apa) yang
antri jual di BUMI, jumlahnya berapa lot, jam barapa pasang antrian,
pergerakan antrian dst-dstnya
2. ... ? Yang tau bantuin dong lengkapin  thanks





 
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[obrolan-bandar] TRUB 790 ke 870 1 menit terakhir?

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] HOT BF in the bear market......JPRS

[pram]

Thanks Mbah,
Sore ini JPRS ditutup 670, naik 15% dibanding pembukaan tadi.

Besok filmnya apalagi Mbah?


-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: 29 Juni 2008 10:19
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] HOT BF in the bear market..Re: HOT BF (in the
past)

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
>
 
> Embah lagi Shooting film BF lagi, dan lagi mencari input
> dari rekan rekan tentang BF yg harus kita sutradarai bareng
> bareng.
> 
> Embah sudah dapet tiga judul:
> 1. Ranjang tunas perawan dari Lampung.
> 2. Berahiku berkobar di Lautan Luas.
> 3. Budak Sex cewe indo perkasa.
> 

Tiga film BF diatas menghasilkan royalty yg luar biasa bagi 
produser dan PENONTON...

Embah mau shooting film BF baru lagi yaitu JPRS meskipun
market lagi engga MESTAKUNG...

Synopsis filmnya sbb:

http://www.investdata.net/QRJPRS.TXT

Any comment ?.

Note:
- Volume perdagangan JPRS tidak tinggi alias tidak likwid.





 




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[obrolan-bandar] Re: My view on Indonesia and IDX specifically

[john987643]

Love you elaine :) I like your comment...wish sometimes we can meet 
each other to change our perspective...:)




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> *So, sell your stocks to me as cheap as possible. Elaine sudah 
lama tanya
> mau crash atau tidak, but I see many ppl want that too, so I guess 
i think
> it's not gonna happen (crash) but it will decline persistently 
little by
> little. Until when? Until Bernanke raises the fed rate.
> 
> Now CNBC said that also (bear market) lol. For traders maybe it'd 
be the
> best to stay out for a while, but for ME it's just another entry 
point.
> Stressed they say? Well, it depends on where you put your money at 
and -of
> course- your investment timeframe.
> 
> I believe (and I think others too) that bull and bear season is 
not forever.
> Yeah, I know the economy is still weak, stocks decline and 
inflation rate
> soars.
> 
> But think of this, if you read the news, there are so many 
strategic action
> by investors (either by acquisition or even a hostile takeover) 
happen out
> there. If the economy is THAT bad, it'd be no action like that, 
but it
> happens.
> 
> Forgive me for being a contrarian, I see this is a good 
opportunity.. to
> invest. I believe Indonesia has a good future, way better than 
Singapore or
> Malaysia. 3-4 years from now I believe you're all waay richer than 
today.
> Why fret with the daily volatility?. Stop acting like you're a 
psychic. Stop
> speculating. Invest as it was meant to be.
> 
> And the time is now. Like I always said before, I get everything 
at 50%
> discount (from their peak), maybe it will decline to 60% or even 
70%, well I
> don't care. My investors don't care. There are always risk, but we 
can bear
> that cuz we believe in fundametals.
> 
> Thank you, for everything.
> 
> Sincerely yours,
> 
> Elaine*
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS AND MIRA

[Maddy Vain]

Perhatikan EPS TINS. sedap sekali
Mau SS dan deviden lagi. mitos tiap kali SS adalah akan terjadi distribusi 
semakin membuat saham ini tidak ditumpangi penumpang gelap. Target 50 ribu 
terlalu dekat, ada yang bisa menghitung harga wajar TINS dengan harga timah 
sekarang?

--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS AND MIRA
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 9:19 AM






volume sama kayak rata2 3 bulan. tapi kalau dibanding yg kemarin2,
hari ini jauh lebih gede.

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "hendrik_lwww"
 wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Vic"  
> wrote:
> >
> > tins unjuk gigi dibilangin bad hehehe
> > ada news apa sih sebetulnya? apa krn udah deket split n dividen?
> > 
> SIP : HENDRIK
> ada ahli TA yang bisa bantu... chat sebleum hari ini ngga begitu bagus..
> tiba - tiba hari ini break out.. tapi dengan volume yang kecil
>

 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] ada apa dengan SRSN

[Saham Oke]

rumor...akan bikin pabrik biofuel JV dengan asing...

--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Vincentius Go <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Vincentius Go <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ada apa dengan SRSN
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 3:49 AM














dear all...
ada yg ngamati SRSN nga?
 
stlh bbrp hari badai habis2an.. koq sekar mulai 
menggeliat bangkit? tapi yg beli koq sekuritas itu2 aja???
 
mohon info lebih lengkap

  




 

















  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm

[Christine Boyd]

Dear El. 
At what level will you expect TLKM to raise up? especially with the fact of all 
competition?
I bought it when it was at 7800.
Your advice is much appreciated,
thanks 
Tien


- Original Message 
From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:23:48 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm


Elaine sudah BUY Telkom when it reached <7300, kalau turun I will average down.

Elaine


On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:38 PM, hendrik_lwww  wrote:

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Prasetyo, Hani"
 wrote:
>
>
> Not yet...Entry point 6500...
>
>

SIP : HENDRIK
mine is 6000
chart :
http://dolgado. blogspot. com/2008/ 06/tlkm-update- macd-bearish. html

good news for telko :
http://dolgado. blogspot. com/2008/ 06/teleco- sing-song- for-rp-24-
triliun.html


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Stock Picking 30/6/2008

[fenani]

>
> kmana aja pak hendrik..
>

dikangenin banyak orang lho minggu kemarin :)

Re: [obrolan-bandar] UDAH ADA INFLOW YA MBAH.....

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

nurut teman qt kemungkinan yg gak nongol lg bangrut di bola. bs betul.
krn pasti pd dukung jerman. spanyol khan underdog, trakhir mrk juara
eropa kakek mereka 44thn yg lalu.
klo mbah sih cuan kayaknya mah. tunggu aj update-an inflow outflownya

[obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS

[boyz]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Rajsha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> sama Pak, saya mah udah perkosa abis jumat kemaren, ketika dia
terletang
> menantang di 12750an...
>
> kayaknya dia mo horni terus ke 14000an tuch...;)
>


Hahaha...
Kacau... Pada piktor semua  [:p]

[obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm

[boyz]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Prasetyo, Hani"
> Hani.Prasetyo@ wrote:
> >
> > Not yet...Entry point 6500...
>
> SIP : HENDRIK
> mine is 6000
>


Pada kebangetan ini nawarnya, hehehe...
Kayak ibu-2 lagi belanja aja, nawarnya 'ngejatuhin' bener,  [:p]

7.000  aja deh... harga pas  [:D]

[obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Petualang Saham" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Beneran nih, ga salah narik CHART Pak Hendrik...
> He.. he.. he..
> 
SIP : HENDRIK
my chart high probabiblity to be wrong ^.^
selama TLKM belum ada signal reversal mening jauhin dulu..
Kecuali kalau mau kayak EL yang udah jadi aliran Averaging Down 
it's OK ^_^

huh... i was predict TLKM will go 7000 when TLKM was 8000..
But why i didn't sell my TLKM stock?

i have 13 LOt at average 8200...

^^

[obrolan-bandar] Re: UDAH ADA INFLOW YA MBAH.....

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> nurut teman qt kemungkinan yg gak nongol lg bangrut di bola. bs betul.
> krn pasti pd dukung jerman. spanyol khan underdog, trakhir mrk juara
> eropa kakek mereka 44thn yg lalu.
> klo mbah sih cuan kayaknya mah. tunggu aj update-an inflow outflownya
>
SIP : HENDRIK
mbah pasti menag di piala eropa, hanya dngan menghitong inflow/outflow 
taruhan di piala eropa ^^

and be contrarian,he3..

ingat Yunani menang Euro dulu?

btw, ada rumor :
Baye Munchen Lawan Persebaya, 
Persebaya kalah 9 : 10

[obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm

[boyz]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> huh... i was predict TLKM will go 7000 when TLKM was 8000..
> But why i didn't sell my TLKM stock?
>


Why?
'cause you don't believe ur own analysis?
if u don't, who else then?  hehehe...

Salam,

Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB 790 ke 870 1 menit terakhir?

[giek Doang]

Jebakan atau tanda2 alam,ada yg punya info

- Pesan Asli 
Dari: Resa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Senin, 30 Juni, 2008 02:06:51
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB 790 ke 870 1 menit terakhir?




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[obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "boyz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww" 

> wrote:
> >
> > huh... i was predict TLKM will go 7000 when TLKM was 8000..
> > But why i didn't sell my TLKM stock?
> >
> 
> 
> Why?
> 'cause you don't believe ur own analysis?
> if u don't, who else then?  hehehe...
> 
> Salam,
>
SIP : HENDRIK
no, no.. bukan ngga percaya maa my own analysis..
tapi semua berhubungan dengan Psikologis

rasanya kayak kehilangan gitu kalau CL...
mungkn perlu belajar lebih berani aja CL.

dari pengamatan saya sih. 
kurang lebih 7 dari 10 analisa saya di saham yang tidak saya milik 
bener

tapi kalau sahamnya saya punya sendiri, 
7 dari 8 salah,he3..

[obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm

[boyz]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> SIP : HENDRIK
> no, no.. bukan ngga percaya maa my own analysis..
> tapi semua berhubungan dengan Psikologis
>
> rasanya kayak kehilangan gitu kalau CL...
> mungkn perlu belajar lebih berani aja CL.
>
> dari pengamatan saya sih.
> kurang lebih 7 dari 10 analisa saya di saham yang tidak saya milik
> bener
>
> tapi kalau sahamnya saya punya sendiri,
> 7 dari 8 salah,he3..
>


Hehehe, bisa aja bro...
Kalau 7 dari 8 salah, masih mending lah...
Masih mending ada yg bener  [:p]
Sorry j/k.  I believe u better than that.

Memang, faktor psikologis yg paling susah untuk diasah.

Salam,

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Penumpang ASII udah pada naik semua belum ???

[Tom DS]

*Kayanya supirnya bakal pake jurus dewa mabok.*
*Makanya ngebut... =)*
**
**
*T.o.m*


On 6/30/08, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Juragan Cumi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Nyari tiket diskon belum dapet euy. 19,100 gak dapet, 19 pas apalagi
> >
> > Salam,
> > Cumi-cumi segar enak lezaat bergizi
> >
> SIP : HENDRIK
> weleh2 masih kurang diskon tuh pak..
> turbo udah diisi NOS juga...
> bahkan Kripton pun juga udah diisi...
>
> tinggal distater ama supirnya aja.. langsug terbang... ^^
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Watch FPNI in the next 3 weeks...

[Tom DS]

*Kan Q1 masih merugi karena masih pakai laporan fatrapolindo sebelum mereka
akuisisi & ganti nama jadi Titan Kimia Nusantara.*
*Trust me on thisyou guys will see really amazing result. Simpan email
saya sekarang ini, kita lihat setelah mereka submit financial statements
*
**
**
*T.o.m*



On 6/30/08, Ari Sugiarto Santoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Are you sure, Pak Tom?
> Saya lihat sampai Q1 2008 FPNI masih merugi.
> Apa Q2 ini ada net profit? Estimasi PER nya berapa Q2 ini?
>
> Thanks sarannya buat PGAS. Besok saya coba buy ASII apabila dapat diskon.
> Meski terus terang saya pesimis penjualan otomotif bisa naik (atau minimal
> stagnant) krn harga BBM & suku bunga yg tinggi.
>
> Ada pendapat mengenai sektor semen & konstruksi, Pak Tom? Top pick saya di
> WIKA & SMGR.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>  On 6/30/08, Tom DS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>*Speculative buy on good fundamental stocks but never been caught by
>> bandar, or even EL & Mbah*
>> *Just wait until FPNI's Q2 financial statement released, and prepare for
>> rally.*
>> **
>> **
>> *T.o.m*
>>
>> 
>>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm

[swan silo]

...simpuln...tlkm plg mntb di 70006900 pun ok..



- Original Message 
From: boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:31:16 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "hendrik_lwww"  
wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Prasetyo, Hani" 
> Hani.Prasetyo@ wrote:
> >
> > Not yet...Entry point 6500...
> 
> SIP : HENDRIK
> mine is 6000
>


Pada kebangetan ini nawarnya, hehehe...
Kayak ibu-2 lagi belanja aja, nawarnya 'ngejatuhin' bener, 

7.000  aja deh... harga pas 







 


  

[obrolan-bandar] CTRA jebol 400

[Rully]

CTRA tembus support kuatnya selama beberapa lama, yaitu 400, ditutup di 395.

I'll cash out tomorrow. Sell 'em all. Along with the Warrant.

Pak AA, lupakan postingku kemarin. Oil gak bakal turun. Menurut Pak
Alfatih, property nggak ada harapan.

Dang!

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update

[Slasher McGorok]

I'm just echoing... urang satuju pisan
 
long-termers CAN still waitkalo skenario pemilu 2009 kira2 seperti apa ya?


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:54:36 
+0700Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update




Yup..berita di bloomberg juga seperti itulowest bet (open position) on oil 
already at 15 years lowDengan kata lain volume divergence.Tapi bukan berarti 
gak bisa naik lho cuman mungkin peak oil akan tercapai tahun ini.Lalu soal 
pendapat bursa akan bullish kalau oil turun. Saya sih tidak sependapat. Kalau 
komoditas turun...bursa cuman teknikal rebound kemudian melanjutkan 
bearishnya.Just sharing
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:43 PM, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Pak, volume crude oil di chart saya cenderung turun terus.., terjadi divergence 
negative dgn harga..., data dari reuters code [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] HOT BF in the bear market......Re: HOT BF (in the past)

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Mewakili Mbah yang masih pusing begadang 1 bulan nungguin Piala
Euro... Biar ada tenaga bikinin inflow outflow :D

Kayak2nya:
K=Kompas100,
L=LQ45
J= JII ?

Hehehe Salam ngarang

2008/6/30 retsu782000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Kode K L J pada QTR 1 2008 RESULT di http://www.investdata.net/ memberitahu
> apa ya?

[obrolan-bandar] Akhirnya Info Mbah gak Gratisan Lagi

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Investdata.net udah di-password di mana2

Hik hik...

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Akhirnya Info Mbah gak Gratisan Lagi

[boyz]

Jadi member aja ...
trus kalo bisa membawa serta 3 cewek cakep jadi member, kali aja bisa
gratis  [:D]
member get member, gitu lo... hehehe
ya kan, mBah?

Salam,


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Investdata.net udah di-password di mana2
>
> Hik hik...
>

[obrolan-bandar] BBRI Still Good (Stock Picking 1 Juli)

[hendrik_lwww]

Still Good
penentuan saat besok pengumuman inflasi..
kalau bagus bisa terbang, kalau ngga bisa2
patah lagi breakoutnya..
chart :
http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/06/bbri-update_30.html

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Akhirnya Info Mbah gak Gratisan Lagi

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "boyz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jadi member aja ...
> trus kalo bisa membawa serta 3 cewek cakep jadi member, kali aja bisa
> gratis  [:D]
> member get member, gitu lo... hehehe
> ya kan, mBah?
> 
> Salam,
SIP : HENDRIK
kan mbah bleum kasi pengumuman buat bayar,
mbah hanya minta data pribadi aja,he3...
^^

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Akhirnya Info Mbah gak Gratisan Lagi

[boyz]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "boyz" m4573rs@ wrote:
> >
> > Jadi member aja ...
> > trus kalo bisa membawa serta 3 cewek cakep jadi member, kali aja
bisa
> > gratis  [:D]
> > member get member, gitu lo... hehehe
> > ya kan, mBah?
> >
> > Salam,
> SIP : HENDRIK
> kan mbah bleum kasi pengumuman buat bayar,
> mbah hanya minta data pribadi aja,he3...
> ^^
>


hahaha...
kali-kali aja pak abdulrahim ketipu, trus beneran ngajak 3 cewek cakep.

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm

[Tom DS]

*7200-7300 is very good Moreover, Rp407.15/share for total devidend
would be more than enough... *
*
Yeahhh. but we have to trade off with its loss expansion opportunity.
So, theoretically, its growth would be only 11.43% (ROE x Retained
Earnings/Net Income = 38.1% x 30%) compare to 2007 despite of more and more
market competition in telecomunication industry...
After downgraded the competition factors & slowing economy, perhaps TLKM
growth in 2008 compared to 2007 would be only around 6.2-7.5%. But if you
guys an opportunist swing traders, TLKM at 7200-7300 is not bad, just take
the dividend. =)


* **
*T.o.m*


On 6/30/08, swan silo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>...simpuln...tlkm plg mntb di 70006900 pun ok..
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:31:16 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm
>
>  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "hendrik_lwww" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Prasetyo, Hani"
> > Hani.Prasetyo@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Not yet...Entry point 6500...
> >
> > SIP : HENDRIK
> > mine is 6000
> >
>
>
> Pada kebangetan ini nawarnya, hehehe...
> Kayak ibu-2 lagi belanja aja, nawarnya 'ngejatuhin' bener, [image: :p]
>
> 7.000  aja deh... harga pas [image: :D]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Penumpang ASII udah pada naik semua belum ???

[Pemain Mini]

kok gak ikutan kereta JPRS saja ??
ngapain nungguin saham2 gak jelas seperti ASII, ANTM, PGAS, UNTR, dll..
semua saham yg lagi goblok2 nya tuh supirnya.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom DS 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Penumpang ASII udah pada naik semua belum 
???



  Kayanya supirnya bakal pake jurus dewa mabok.
  Makanya ngebut... =)


  T.o.m

   
  On 6/30/08, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Juragan Cumi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Nyari tiket diskon belum dapet euy. 19,100 gak dapet, 19 pas apalagi
> 
> Salam,
> Cumi-cumi segar enak lezaat bergizi
> 
SIP : HENDRIK
weleh2 masih kurang diskon tuh pak..
turbo udah diisi NOS juga...
bahkan Kripton pun juga udah diisi...

tinggal distater ama supirnya aja.. langsug terbang... ^^






   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Penumpang ASII udah pada naik semua belum ???

[Paulus Tangke Allo]

hehehe...kereta-nya cuma 2 gerbong makanya larinya cepet.
tapi karena tempatnya gak muat, mau gak mau, mesti nurunin penumpang
gelap dulu :D


--pta

On 6/30/08, Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> kok gak ikutan kereta JPRS saja ??
> ngapain nungguin saham2 gak jelas seperti ASII, ANTM, PGAS, UNTR, dll..
> semua saham yg lagi goblok2 nya tuh supirnya.

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Watch FPNI in the next 3 weeks...

[rudd haas]

saya sih tidak meragukan masalah profit atau valuasi
tapi adalah likuiditas nya.
kelihatan ya masih amat tidak likuid
hari ini aja cuma ada transaksi 27 lot
padahal , buat saya, Liquidity is a must
 
apa ada kemungkinan akan jadi likuid 3 minggu ke depan?
 


--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Tom DS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Tom DS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Watch FPNI in the next 3 weeks...
To: "Ari Sugiarto Santoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 10:36 PM







So sorry for wrong info
 
Even in Q1 2008 FPNI already posted positive earnings after its complicated 
acquisition /reverse takeover. So we will see more and more net profit in Q2 
then... See the attached file, thanks to Indopremier for the data.. =)
 
 
T.o.m

 
On 6/30/08, Tom DS  wrote: 

Kan Q1 masih merugi karena masih pakai laporan fatrapolindo sebelum mereka 
akuisisi & ganti nama jadi Titan Kimia Nusantara.
Trust me on thisyou guys will see really amazing result. Simpan email saya 
sekarang ini, kita lihat setelah mereka submit financial statements.. ..
 
 
T.o.m



 
On 6/30/08, Ari Sugiarto Santoso  wrote: 

Are you sure, Pak Tom?
Saya lihat sampai Q1 2008 FPNI masih merugi.
Apa Q2 ini ada net profit? Estimasi PER nya berapa Q2 ini?
 
Thanks sarannya buat PGAS. Besok saya coba buy ASII apabila dapat diskon. Meski 
terus terang saya pesimis penjualan otomotif bisa naik (atau minimal stagnant) 
krn harga BBM & suku bunga yg tinggi.
 
Ada pendapat mengenai sektor semen & konstruksi, Pak Tom? Top pick saya di WIKA 
& SMGR.
 
Thank you,

 

On 6/30/08, Tom DS  wrote: 







Speculative buy on good fundamental stocks but never been caught by bandar, or 
even EL & Mbah
Just wait until FPNI's Q2 financial statement released, and prepare for rally.
 
 
T.o.m





 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Watch FPNI in the next 3 weeks...

[Arpand]

Bung Tom,
Ini Titan yang Malaysian Company?  atau another Titan
Ada info "siapa" mereka ini?

Reuter Fundamentals nggak lagi tampilkan data-data saham indo,
jadi agak susah cari data-data begini..


On 6/30/08, Tom DS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   *Kan Q1 masih merugi karena masih pakai laporan fatrapolindo sebelum
> mereka akuisisi & ganti nama jadi Titan Kimia Nusantara.*
> *Trust me on thisyou guys will see really amazing result. Simpan email
> saya sekarang ini, kita lihat setelah mereka submit financial statements
> *
> **
> **
> *T.o.m*
>
>
>
> On 6/30/08, Ari Sugiarto Santoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Are you sure, Pak Tom?
>> Saya lihat sampai Q1 2008 FPNI masih merugi.
>> Apa Q2 ini ada net profit? Estimasi PER nya berapa Q2 ini?
>>
>> Thanks sarannya buat PGAS. Besok saya coba buy ASII apabila dapat diskon.
>> Meski terus terang saya pesimis penjualan otomotif bisa naik (atau minimal
>> stagnant) krn harga BBM & suku bunga yg tinggi.
>>
>> Ada pendapat mengenai sektor semen & konstruksi, Pak Tom? Top pick saya di
>> WIKA & SMGR.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>  On 6/30/08, Tom DS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>*Speculative buy on good fundamental stocks but never been caught by
>>> bandar, or even EL & Mbah*
>>> *Just wait until FPNI's Q2 financial statement released, and prepare for
>>> rally.*
>>> **
>>> **
>>> *T.o.m*
>>>
>>>
>>
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm

[Milis]

mirror..mirror on the wall.. will I ever get my money back at 
10.000 ? 

please tell me.  

hmm..

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> *Elaine sudah BUY Telkom when it reached <7300, kalau turun I will 
average
> down.
> 
> Elaine**
> *
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:38 PM, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Prasetyo, Hani"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Not yet...Entry point 6500...
> > >
> > >
> >
> > SIP : HENDRIK
> > mine is 6000
> > chart :
> > http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/06/tlkm-update-macd-bearish.html
> >
> > good news for telko :
> > http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/06/teleco-sing-song-for-rp-24-
> > triliun.html
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > + +
> > + + + + +
> > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > + + + + +
> > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

[obrolan-bandar] Buy on Weakness MEDC

[Yuming Tjoa]

Dear All,
 
Investasi di saham minyak (misalnya saham MEDC) dalam jangka menengah adalah 
suatu spekulasi yang perlu dicermati. Mengapa? 
 
Beberapa pakar minyak yang optimis memprediksikan bahwa harga minyak akan 
mencapai $ 200 per barrel dalam waktu beberapa bulan mendatang. Sebab-sebabnya :
 
1. Permintaan minyak dari Cina, India, negara-negara berkembang dan beberapa 
negara- 
    negara lainnya meningkat.
2. Amerika sendiri pun masih terus meningkatkan impor minyaknya.
3. Produksi minyak dunia (yang berasal dari sumur-sumur tua) menurun.
4. Belum ditemukannya sumur minyak baru yang mengandung minyak / cadangan 
minyak 
    dalam jumlah yang besar.
5. Biaya eksplorasi minyak yang semakin mahal.
6. Pelemahan dolar Amerika.
7. Ancaman badai di Teluk Meksiko.
8. Ketegangan di Timur Tengah antara Iran dan Israel.
 
Bagi yang berani berspekulasi, maka saatnya untuk mengkoleksi saham MEDC.
 
Salam,
Yuming.


  

[obrolan-bandar] Aturan Baru Tender Offer Telah Diterbitkan

[Ari]

Aturan Baru Tender Offer Telah Diterbitkan  
Wahyu Daniel - detikFinance

  Jakarta - Badan Pengawas Pasar Modal dan Lembaga Keuangan (Bapepam LK)
mengeluarkan aturan baru yang mengatur mengenai tender offer bagi
pengambilaihan perusahaan terbuka. Hal ini di latar belakangi upaya
likuiditas pasar dengan tetap memberikan kesempatan pada investor pasar
modal untuk tetap memiliki saham perusahaan terbuka walaupun telah
terjadi pengambilalihan terhadap perusahaan terbuka.

"Jadi kami
merevisi peraturan nomor IX.H.1 tentang pengambilalihan perusahaan
terbuka," kata Kepala Biro Hukum dan Perundang-undangan Bapepam LK
Robinson Simbolon dalam jumpa pers di kantor Bapepma LK, Jl wahidin
Raya, Jakarta, Senin (30/6/2008).

Adapun  poin-poin penting
dalam aturan baru tersebut antara lain adalah pertama diatur kerajiban
penawaran tender atas perusahaan terbuka, yang diambilalih hanya
dikenakan kepada pengendali baru perusahaan terbuka yang memiliki saham
lebih besar dari 50% dari seluruh saham yang disetor penuh, atau pihak
tersebut mempunyai kemampuan untuk menentukan baik langsung maupun
tidak dengan cara apa pun pengelolaan dan atau kebijakan perusahaan.

Kedua
jika pengendali yang baru memiliki saham di perusahaan terbuka lebih
dari 80%, maka dalam jangka waktu paling lama 2 tahun, pengendali yang
baru itu wajib mengalihkan saham perusahaan tersebut ke pasar menjadi
minimal 20%.

"Kemudian harga penawaran tender saham yang
tercatat dan diperdagangkan di bursa adalah paling kurang sebesar harga
rata-rata dari harga tertinggi perdagangan harian di bursa efek selama
90 hari terakhir sebelum pengumuman pengambilalihan atau harga
pengambilalihan yang sudah dilakukan. Harga tersebut harus dipilih
harga yang lebih tinggi," tutur Robinson.

Dan Aturan baru ini berlaku 30 Juni 2008.


  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Penumpang ASII udah pada naik semua belum ???

[Tom DS]

*Hahaha...*
**
*Kan penumpangnya udah banyak yang turun... Yg sisa cuma yg pada ngehindarin
debt collector di depan kereta yg nagihin kalo pake margin... hehehe...*
*Ada lagi, sama yang emang tujuannya masih panjang di 27000an ato emang hobi
naek kereta sampe 3-5tahun lagi =)*
**
**
*T.o.m*


On 6/30/08, Paulus Tangke Allo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   hehehe...kereta-nya cuma 2 gerbong makanya larinya cepet.
> tapi karena tempatnya gak muat, mau gak mau, mesti nurunin penumpang
> gelap dulu :D
>
> --pta
>
> On 6/30/08, Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > kok gak ikutan kereta JPRS saja ??
> > ngapain nungguin saham2 gak jelas seperti ASII, ANTM, PGAS, UNTR,
> dll..
> > semua saham yg lagi goblok2 nya tuh supirnya.
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Buy on Weakness MEDC

[Winoto99]

Menurut pendapet daripada kami, harga minyak dapet mencapai $200, lebih 
disebabken oleh ulah para spekulan dibandingken daripada faktor fundamental yg 
disebutken dibawah oleh Mr. Tjoa. 
Oleh karena itulah, para "pakar daripada minyak" terus menghembusken berita2 
atawa analisa2 yg mendorong harga minyak ke arah $200 agar spekulasi daripada 
mereka berhasil. 
Jika memang mau mengharapken untung daripada spekulasi "harga minyak" sebaiknya 
beli USO di bursa NYSE karena ini langsung terkait dengan harga daripada minyak 
itu sendiri (bukan firma yg menghasilkan daripada minyak)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Yuming Tjoa 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:23 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Buy on Weakness MEDC


Dear All,

Investasi di saham minyak (misalnya saham MEDC) dalam jangka menengah 
adalah suatu spekulasi yang perlu dicermati. Mengapa? 

Beberapa pakar minyak yang optimis memprediksikan bahwa harga minyak 
akan mencapai $ 200 per barrel dalam waktu beberapa bulan mendatang. 
Sebab-sebabnya :

1. Permintaan minyak dari Cina, India, negara-negara berkembang dan 
beberapa negara- 
negara lainnya meningkat.
2. Amerika sendiri pun masih terus meningkatkan impor minyaknya.
3. Produksi minyak dunia (yang berasal dari sumur-sumur tua) menurun.
4. Belum ditemukannya sumur minyak baru yang mengandung minyak / 
cadangan minyak 
dalam jumlah yang besar.
5. Biaya eksplorasi minyak yang semakin mahal.
6. Pelemahan dolar Amerika.
7. Ancaman badai di Teluk Meksiko.
8. Ketegangan di Timur Tengah antara Iran dan Israel.

Bagi yang berani berspekulasi, maka saatnya untuk mengkoleksi saham 
MEDC.

Salam,
Yuming. 

   

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Buy on Weakness MEDC

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Winoto99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Menurut pendapet daripada kami, harga minyak dapet mencapai $200, 
lebih disebabken oleh ulah para spekulan dibandingken daripada faktor 
fundamental yg disebutken dibawah oleh Mr. Tjoa. 
> Oleh karena itulah, para "pakar daripada minyak" terus 
menghembusken berita2 atawa analisa2 yg mendorong harga minyak ke 
arah $200 agar spekulasi daripada mereka berhasil. 
> Jika memang mau mengharapken untung daripada spekulasi "harga 
minyak" sebaiknya beli USO di bursa NYSE karena ini langsung terkait 
dengan harga daripada minyak itu sendiri (bukan firma yg menghasilkan 
daripada minyak)
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Yuming Tjoa 
>   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; meta-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:23 AM
>   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Buy on Weakness MEDC
> 
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Investasi di saham minyak (misalnya saham MEDC) dalam 
jangka menengah adalah suatu spekulasi yang perlu dicermati. Mengapa? 
> 
> Beberapa pakar minyak yang optimis memprediksikan bahwa 
harga minyak akan mencapai $ 200 per barrel dalam waktu beberapa 
bulan mendatang. Sebab-sebabnya :
> 
> 1. Permintaan minyak dari Cina, India, negara-negara 
berkembang dan beberapa negara- 
> negara lainnya meningkat.
> 2. Amerika sendiri pun masih terus meningkatkan impor 
minyaknya.
> 3. Produksi minyak dunia (yang berasal dari sumur-sumur 
tua) menurun.
> 4. Belum ditemukannya sumur minyak baru yang mengandung 
minyak / cadangan minyak 
> dalam jumlah yang besar.
> 5. Biaya eksplorasi minyak yang semakin mahal.
> 6. Pelemahan dolar Amerika.
> 7. Ancaman badai di Teluk Meksiko.
> 8. Ketegangan di Timur Tengah antara Iran dan Israel.
> 
> Bagi yang berani berspekulasi, maka saatnya untuk 
mengkoleksi saham MEDC.
> 
> Salam,
> Yuming.
>
SIP : HENDRIK
kalau ngga salah, syaa perna ngomongin ini di atas 10x :
kalauyakin harga mnyak ke 200, beli oil aja...cuannya masih 40% 
tuh,kalau pake leverage bisa ratusan %, di marketiva bisa kok ^^

[obrolan-bandar] Re: [meta-noia] Buy on Weakness MEDC

[Juragan Cumi]

Harga Pertamax sudah 10,250 rupiah per liter.
Harga elpiji juga sudah naik.

Bolehlah anda cuan dari spekulasi harga minyak, tapi cuannya akan
habis buat beli bensin nanti.

Zero sum game?


On 7/1/08, Winoto99 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Menurut pendapet daripada kami, harga minyak dapet mencapai $200, lebih
> disebabken oleh ulah para spekulan dibandingken daripada faktor fundamental
> yg disebutken dibawah oleh Mr. Tjoa.
> Oleh karena itulah, para "pakar daripada minyak" terus menghembusken berita2
> atawa analisa2 yg mendorong harga minyak ke arah $200 agar spekulasi
> daripada mereka berhasil.
> Jika memang mau mengharapken untung daripada spekulasi "harga minyak"
> sebaiknya beli USO di bursa NYSE karena ini langsung terkait dengan harga
> daripada minyak itu sendiri (bukan firma yg menghasilkan daripada minyak)
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Yuming Tjoa
>   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:23 AM
>   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Buy on Weakness MEDC
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> Investasi di saham minyak (misalnya saham MEDC) dalam jangka
> menengah adalah suatu spekulasi yang perlu dicermati. Mengapa?
>
> Beberapa pakar minyak yang optimis memprediksikan bahwa harga minyak
> akan mencapai $ 200 per barrel dalam waktu beberapa bulan mendatang.
> Sebab-sebabnya :
>
> 1. Permintaan minyak dari Cina, India, negara-negara berkembang dan
> beberapa negara-
> negara lainnya meningkat.
> 2. Amerika sendiri pun masih terus meningkatkan impor minyaknya.
> 3. Produksi minyak dunia (yang berasal dari sumur-sumur tua)
> menurun.
> 4. Belum ditemukannya sumur minyak baru yang mengandung minyak /
> cadangan minyak
> dalam jumlah yang besar.
> 5. Biaya eksplorasi minyak yang semakin mahal.
> 6. Pelemahan dolar Amerika.
> 7. Ancaman badai di Teluk Meksiko.
> 8. Ketegangan di Timur Tengah antara Iran dan Israel.
>
> Bagi yang berani berspekulasi, maka saatnya untuk mengkoleksi saham
> MEDC.
>
> Salam,
> Yuming.
>
>


-- 
Salam,
Cumi-cumi segar enak lezaat bergizi

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Penumpang ASII udah pada naik semua belum ???

[Marjan Syah]

Apa alasannya bakal naek Pak? Apakah karena berita mengenai kerjasama RI-JP
dalam hal penyediaan bahan baku baja khusus?

http://www.bisnis.com/servlet/page?_pageid=127&_dad=portal30&_schema=PORTAL30&vnw_lang_id=2&ptopik=A60&cdate=01-jul-2008&inw_id=609770


On 6/30/08, Tom DS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>*Dear OB-ers,*
> **
> *Para penumpang ASII udah pada naik semua belum 
> Kereta menuju stasiun terdekat 22000 yg melewati perhentian pertama di
> stasiun 21000 siap2 jalan (kalau nggak ada halangan lampu merah inflasi
> besok).*
> *Perhentian akhir tahun di 27000-28000 siap menunggu.*
> **
> **
> *T.o.m*
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: [meta-noia] Buy on Weakness MEDC

[hendrik_lwww]

> -- 
> Salam,
> Cumi-cumi segar enak lezaat bergizi
>

sip : hendrik
lebih enak kepiting lada hitam. kalau di surabaya boleh donk kita 
ngumpul2 di restoran KEPITING KENARI, jalan kertajaya, di sebelah pom 
bensin... Enak Lho...he3...

Kepiting = Cumi = Hih Cholesterol

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Penumpang ASII udah pada naik semua belum ???

[Juragan Cumi]

Kereta Jepang-Rusia berangkatnya kemaren kepagian. Penumpang masih
antri beli tiket dia dah jalan duluan. Mungkin menghindari cuaca buruk
di jalan.



On 6/30/08, Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> kok gak ikutan kereta JPRS saja ??
> ngapain nungguin saham2 gak jelas seperti ASII, ANTM, PGAS, UNTR, dll..
> semua saham yg lagi goblok2 nya tuh supirnya.
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Tom DS
>   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:33 PM
>   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Penumpang ASII udah pada naik semua
> belum ???
>
>
>
>   Kayanya supirnya bakal pake jurus dewa mabok.
>   Makanya ngebut... =)
>
>
>   T.o.m
>
>
>   On 6/30/08, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Juragan Cumi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Nyari tiket diskon belum dapet euy. 19,100 gak dapet, 19 pas apalagi
> >
> > Salam,
> > Cumi-cumi segar enak lezaat bergizi
> >
> SIP : HENDRIK
> weleh2 masih kurang diskon tuh pak..
> turbo udah diisi NOS juga...
> bahkan Kripton pun juga udah diisi...
>
> tinggal distater ama supirnya aja.. langsug terbang... ^^
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Salam,
Cumi-cumi segar enak lezaat bergizi

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Buy on Weakness MEDC

[Jemsand]

Kolek...kolekk.

BOW ya pak.

 

  _  

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Yuming Tjoa
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:24 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Buy on Weakness MEDC

 


Dear All,

 

Investasi di saham minyak (misalnya saham MEDC) dalam jangka menengah adalah
suatu spekulasi yang perlu dicermati. Mengapa? 

 

Beberapa pakar minyak yang optimis memprediksikan bahwa harga minyak akan
mencapai $ 200 per barrel dalam waktu beberapa bulan mendatang.
Sebab-sebabnya :

 

1. Permintaan minyak dari Cina, India, negara-negara berkembang dan beberapa
negara- 

negara lainnya meningkat.

2. Amerika sendiri pun masih terus meningkatkan impor minyaknya.

3. Produksi minyak dunia (yang berasal dari sumur-sumur tua) menurun.

4. Belum ditemukannya sumur minyak baru yang mengandung minyak / cadangan
minyak 

dalam jumlah yang besar.

5. Biaya eksplorasi minyak yang semakin mahal.

6. Pelemahan dolar Amerika.

7. Ancaman badai di Teluk Meksiko.

8. Ketegangan di Timur Tengah antara Iran dan Israel.

 

Bagi yang berani berspekulasi, maka saatnya untuk mengkoleksi saham MEDC.

 

Salam,

Yuming.

 

 

Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS

[bayu murti]

Kl aq seh sdh perkosa pas 11rb, nunggu hamilnya aja ntar, smoga bayinya 20k ;p

--- Pada Sen, 30/6/08, boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
Dari: boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Senin, 30 Juni, 2008, 12:31 PM










 







--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Adam Rajsha" 
 wrote:
>
> sama Pak, saya mah udah perkosa abis jumat kemaren, ketika dia terletang
> menantang di 12750an...
> 
> kayaknya dia mo horni terus ke 14000an tuch...;)
> 


Hahaha...
Kacau... Pada piktor semua 





  




 






















  
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Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm

[bayu murti]

Masih mending mas, aq dah tau kl TLKM mo ke 7rb avg downnya dr 10rb, tau antm 
mo ke 3000an malah beli di 4rb, begitu juga dengan inco. Emosi soale 
hehehe .Btw gpp masih ketolong ma yg lain, ga jadi rugi.

--- Pada Sen, 30/6/08, boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
Dari: boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: tlkm
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Senin, 30 Juni, 2008, 12:57 PM










 







--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "hendrik_lwww" 


wrote:

>

> huh... i was predict TLKM will go 7000 when TLKM was 8000..

> But why i didn't sell my TLKM stock?

>



Why?

'cause you don't believe ur own analysis?

if u don't, who else then?  hehehe...



Salam,




  




 






















  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update

[Kabu Nusi]

If I am not wrong, oil-price (naturally) is lower before summer and going-up 
again before fall, in line with seasonal demand. It is a seesaw cycle (like 
Indonesian inflation). Speculations, geopolitics etc are factors affecting that 
natural cycle. Should we worry if the trend is breaking such as cycle then?

Just my 2 worries :)



--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 11:14 AM









Oil price is mainly driven by two kind of news, Fundamental and incidental. 
Fundamental issues are like Oil Reserve, production, USD valuation, off shore 
drilling plan (still banned by the US senate). The others are incidental issues 
like "Prez X says war against America", "Y militant rebels attack oil wells", 
"tanker Z has delayed transportation because of storm", etc




I see most of the news about oil recently are incidental, which is 
fundamentally weak, in other words, can be reversed easily (with another 
incidental good news). The other thing is USD is well maintained since April 
against Euro and Yen.




I know, in the long run crude oil is still bullish but not at this pace. US 
economy is currently still weak so I guess the only reason why it's still 
lingering above $140 is only because of SPECULATION. And you know who did this. 
Yeah, those banks who get smacked down by credit crunch.


Just my 2 cents, so no disclaimer.. lol..


Elaine



2008/6/30 JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> DOW jatuh karena harga minyak naik.., jadi kalau minyak turun 
> harusnya DOW rebound.., begitu kah? sebab SEPINTAS saya melihat ada 
> tanda-tanda minyak akan koreksi (pls see attachment).



>  
> Meskipun MACD baru saja goldencross & Candle membentuk pola bullish engulfing 
> dua bar sebelumnya, tapi saya juga melihat ada divergence negative antara 
> price dgn macd & volume..., mudah2an tarikan garis saya cukup obyektif dan 
> tdk dipengaruhi oleh harapan saya... he.he



>  
> Any Comment? Pak Tasrul, Pak Alfatih, and Others.
>  
> Salam,
> JsxTrader
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Tasrul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; 
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> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:43:08
> Subject: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update
>
> DOW 27 Juni 06 tutup di 11,346.51,ada peluang untuk reversal (lihat target 
> MACD…kemungkinan pertama  di 11,346.21).. jika tidak mampu reversal maka 
> target berikut di 10,758.75



>
>  
>
> Juga terlampir DJIA untuk posisi akhir (27 Juni 08)
>
>  
>
> Tasrul        
>  PT. Overseas Securities



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> From: Tasrul
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> Subject: DJIA Update
>
>  
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>  
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>  
>
> Dear All,
>
>  
>
> Peluang penurunan DJIA meskipun terlihat masih ada namun peluang penurunannya 
> makin kecil. Support terdekat di 11,346.26 dan jika ini tembus berpeluang ke 
> 10,758.75, Semua indikator kecuali MACD Optimasi (yakni W%R Opt

[obrolan-bandar] dow stocks

[Richard Rahardjo]

energy stocks rise again especially natural gas (hk) 




 
  
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[obrolan-bandar] IDX MACD Update

[hendrik_lwww]

Still BAD
focus on the stock...
CPO kayaknya pesta hari ini...
BEI Perlu sentimen super besar,... mudah2an Inflasi ngga mengecewakan

chart :
http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/06/dolgado-learn-bei-map.html

[obrolan-bandar] Transaksi Margin dan Short Selling Saham Diperketat

[abank_saham]

Beritanya ada di detik.com:
http://www.detikfinance.com/index.php/detik.read/tahun/2008/bulan/07/tgl/01/time/085846/idnews/965162/idkanal/6

Bagaimana dampaknya ke bursa?

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update

[Aria Bela Nusa]

For sure - OIL Prices is one kind of fin instruments like other products
(CPOs, Nickel, Gold, etc) - it's not depend only on productions, buying
pressures as happens in real sectors - I mean that it's so different to
analyzings with S & D in classical economics term...

My point of view that sentiments plays much for OIL like other fin
instruments + prices could be raisings more, more in order to find,
achieve its target itself - eventhough S & D all of the two together is
raisen too in parallel movements

Happy Chuan,

Aria


>
>
> If I am not wrong, oil-price (naturally) is lower before summer and
> going-up again before fall, in line with seasonal demand. It is a seesaw
> cycle (like Indonesian inflation). Speculations, geopolitics etc are
> factors affecting that natural cycle. Should we worry if the trend is
> breaking such as cycle then?
>
> Just my 2 worries :)
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 11:14 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Oil price is mainly driven by two kind of news, Fundamental and
> incidental. Fundamental issues are like Oil Reserve, production, USD
> valuation, off shore drilling plan (still banned by the US senate). The
> others are incidental issues like "Prez X says war against America", "Y
> militant rebels attack oil wells", "tanker Z has delayed transportation
> because of storm", etc
>
>
>
>
> I see most of the news about oil recently are incidental, which is
> fundamentally weak, in other words, can be reversed easily (with another
> incidental good news). The other thing is USD is well maintained since
> April against Euro and Yen.
>
>
>
>
> I know, in the long run crude oil is still bullish but not at this pace.
> US economy is currently still weak so I guess the only reason why it's
> still lingering above $140 is only because of SPECULATION. And you know
> who did this. Yeah, those banks who get smacked down by credit crunch.
>
>
> Just my 2 cents, so no disclaimer.. lol..
>
>
> Elaine
>
>
>
> 2008/6/30 JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> DOW jatuh karena harga minyak naik.., jadi kalau minyak turun
>> harusnya DOW rebound.., begitu kah? sebab SEPINTAS saya melihat ada
>> tanda-tanda minyak akan koreksi (pls see attachment).
>
>
>
>>  
>> Meskipun MACD baru saja goldencross & Candle membentuk pola bullish
>> engulfing dua bar sebelumnya, tapi saya juga melihat ada divergence
>> negative antara price dgn macd & volume..., mudah2an tarikan garis saya
>> cukup obyektif dan tdk dipengaruhi oleh harapan saya... he.he
>
>
>
>>  
>> Any Comment? Pak Tasrul, Pak Alfatih, and Others.
>>  
>> Salam,
>> JsxTrader
>>
>> - Original Message 
>> From: Tasrul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>> obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:43:08
>> Subject: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update
>>
>> DOW 27 Juni 06 tutup di 11,346.51,ada peluang untuk reversal (lihat
>> target MACD…kemungkinan pertama  di 11,346.21).. jika tidak mampu
>> reversal maka target berikut di 10,758.75
>
>
>
>>
>>  
>>
>> Juga terlampir DJIA untuk posisi akhir (27 Juni 08)
>>
>>  
>>
>> Tasrul    
>>     PT. Overseas
>> Securities
>
>
>
>>
>> Research
>> Analyst  
>> Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16
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>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>  Jakarta – 12190, Indonesia
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] HOT BF in the bear market......JPRS

[paramanandana]

Mantabb, mbah... 

Mbah, apakah JPRS juga mau dibawa ke langit, spt HEXA yg terbang dr 800an ke 
3200an...? Brp TP JPRS?

Tks


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-Original Message-
From: "pram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:09:58 
To: 
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] HOT BF in the bear market..JPRS


Thanks Mbah,
Sore ini JPRS ditutup 670, naik 15% dibanding pembukaan tadi.

Besok filmnya apalagi Mbah?


-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: 29 Juni 2008 10:19
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] HOT BF in the bear market..Re: HOT BF (in the
past)

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
>
 
> Embah lagi Shooting film BF lagi, dan lagi mencari input
> dari rekan rekan tentang BF yg harus kita sutradarai bareng
> bareng.
> 
> Embah sudah dapet tiga judul:
> 1. Ranjang tunas perawan dari Lampung.
> 2. Berahiku berkobar di Lautan Luas.
> 3. Budak Sex cewe indo perkasa.
> 

Tiga film BF diatas menghasilkan royalty yg luar biasa bagi 
produser dan PENONTON...

Embah mau shooting film BF baru lagi yaitu JPRS meskipun
market lagi engga MESTAKUNG...

Synopsis filmnya sbb:

http://www.investdata.net/QRJPRS.TXT

Any comment ?.

Note:
- Volume perdagangan JPRS tidak tinggi alias tidak likwid.





 




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CLEAR Re: Sekuritas meminjam dana Nasabah sebagai MODAL KERJA Sekuritas....Re: [obrolan-bandar] Surat pernyataan

[alegowo]

Maaf, mulanya ini adalah pertanyaan dari salah seorang rekan yang
bimbang mengenai sebuah penawaran yang diberikan kepada beliau dan
beberapa waktu yang lalu beliau sudah memahami dan mengangap hal ini
sudah clear.
Saya sendiri awalnya tidak begitu memahami permasalahan ini. Namun
dengan begitu banyaknya tanggapan dari rekan2 yang lain di forum ini,
saya jadi memahami hal ini.
Oleh karena itu, saya menganggap bahwa hal tersebut sudah clear.

Mohon maaf sebesar-besarnya, bila ada pihak2 yang tersebutkan dan
kutipan yang saya ambil, karena saya ingin mengutip pertanyaan dari
salah seorang rekan tersebut untuk mengetahui permasalahan secara
detail. Saya juga tidak bermaksud untuk memberikan kesan negatif,
namun itu semua adalah pembelajaran dan pengetahuan yang terkadang
bagi investor pemula adalah hal yang sama sekali baru. Bagi saya,
seluruh masukan dari rekan2 semua adalah sebagai bagian dari
pembelajaran dan ngetahuan.

Terima kasih atas masukan rekan2 semua.

Alegowo

RE: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB 790 ke 870 1 menit terakhir?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

hati hati dng trub, ini yg kedua kali bandar angkat di menit menit 
terakhir. besoknya nggak kuat lama akhirnya melorot lagi. amati aja volumenya

giek Doang wrote:
> Jebakan atau tanda2 alam ,ada yg punya info 
>  - Pesan Asli  Dari: Resa  Kepada: 
> obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Senin, 30 Juni, 2008 02:06:51 
> Topik: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB 790 ke 870 1 menit terakhir? 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Skenario Perbankan ???

[tobinghe]

BBCA biasanya lebih tinggi dari BMRI , beberapa minggu ini ada 
dibawah BMRI, hari ini mulai kelihatan akan mendahului BMRI lagi.


Salam

Herman

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Vincentius Go" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
> 
> menurut i, perbankan ada 2 skenario:
> 
> - Sekarang di "sanjung2" dikit, ntar tanggal 2Jul langsung 
dijebloskan ke dasar laut...
> - para banker's kelas kakap udah dapet bocoran kl inflasi juli 
masih di bawah expectasi pasar.. jadi mereka naik duluan, dgn 
pemimpin BBCA dan BBRI
> 
> nah... bagi yg berkompeten ber-surfing berita, mohon pencerahan, 
skr kita ada di posisi mana?
> 
> happy pusying..
> -Vincent Go-
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Watch FPNI in the next 3 weeks...

[Fajar Wisaksono]

Ada Pak Arpand. Coba klik di sini. kalau mau ganti emiten tinggal ganti kode
sahamya saja..
selamat mencoba.

salam,
fajar

http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/analysis.asp?s=UNSP%3AJKT

2008/7/1 Arpand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>   Bung Tom,
> Ini Titan yang Malaysian Company?  atau another Titan
> Ada info "siapa" mereka ini?
>
> Reuter Fundamentals nggak lagi tampilkan data-data saham indo,
> jadi agak susah cari data-data begini..
>
>
> On 6/30/08, Tom DS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>*Kan Q1 masih merugi karena masih pakai laporan fatrapolindo sebelum
>> mereka akuisisi & ganti nama jadi Titan Kimia Nusantara.*
>> *Trust me on thisyou guys will see really amazing result. Simpan
>> email saya sekarang ini, kita lihat setelah mereka submit financial
>> statements*
>> **
>> **
>> *T.o.m*
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/30/08, Ari Sugiarto Santoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you sure, Pak Tom?
>>> Saya lihat sampai Q1 2008 FPNI masih merugi.
>>> Apa Q2 ini ada net profit? Estimasi PER nya berapa Q2 ini?
>>>
>>> Thanks sarannya buat PGAS. Besok saya coba buy ASII apabila dapat diskon.
>>> Meski terus terang saya pesimis penjualan otomotif bisa naik (atau minimal
>>> stagnant) krn harga BBM & suku bunga yg tinggi.
>>>
>>> Ada pendapat mengenai sektor semen & konstruksi, Pak Tom? Top pick saya
>>> di WIKA & SMGR.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 6/30/08, Tom DS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
*Speculative buy on good fundamental stocks but never been caught by
 bandar, or even EL & Mbah*
 *Just wait until FPNI's Q2 financial statement released, and prepare
 for rally.*
 **
 **
 *T.o.m*


>>>
>>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] senior dan para analis

[greatbiz38]

Ingin tanya nih , ada apa dengan YPAS ?
kok harganya turun bgt , sempat ke Rp. 600.
yang ingin saya tanyakan :
bagaimana prospek ke depan bisnis YPAS ?
dan apakah ada peluang naik kembali ke RP. 880

karena saya pegang cukup banyak ,

terima kasih atas bantuan informasinya .


thanks


johny

[obrolan-bandar] Jika hari ini....

[tjoa_to_hing]

Jika dalam beberapa hari ini terjadi Crash, Manfaatkan sebaik-baiknya.
jadikan sebagai sebuah peluang untuk mendapat gain sebesar-besarnya.




T.T.H

[obrolan-bandar] Produsen CPO Pesta Pora

[Hendri Cendra Arcan]

Produsen CPO Pesta Pora
Monday, 30 June 2008
> Bakrie Beli Saham Perusahaan Singapura

Kota, Warta Kota
 DENGAN memanfaatkan momentum kenaikan harga CPO ( crude palm oil)
di pasar dunia yang signifikan, PT Bakrie Sumatera Plantations Tbk
(UNSP), Senin (30/6),  memutuskan untuk membeli lagi saham sebuah
perusahaan di Singapura, Agri International Resources Pte Ltd (AIRPL).
Melalui transaksi itu, penyertaan saham UNSP di Agri Resources BV
melonjak menjadi 51 persen. Dirut PT Bakrie Sumatera Plantation,
Ambono Janurianto, mengatakan, keputusan itu diambil dalam rapat umum
pemegang saham luar biasa (RUPSLB) perseroan. Diharapkan, dengan
transaksi itu kinerja perseroan akan  semakin meningkat.
 Sepanjang kuartal I/2008, misalnya, perseroan berhasil
mencatatkan laba bersih Rp 165 miliar, naik hingga 794 persen
dibandingkan periode yang sama tahun 2007. Dikatakan, kuartal I/2007,
perseroan mencatatkan  laba bersih Rp 18 miliar. "Membaiknya harga
jual CPO berdampak sangat signifikan terhadap perolehan penjualan
perusahaan," ujar Ambono sambil menambahkan Insya Allah, pada 2011
nanti perseroan akan memiliki lahan perkebunan seluas 200.000 hektar.
Hal yang sama juga terjadi di PT Sampoerna Agro Tbk yang berhasil
meningkatkan penjualan CPO hingga 64 persen pada 2007 dibanding tahun
2006. Dalam RUPST tahun buku 2007 di Grand Hyatt Hotel, Jumat (27/6),
nilai penjualan perusahaan dengan kode emitmen SGRO pada 2007 tercatat
Rp 1,6 triliun, atau naik dari tahun sebelumnya yang hanya Rp 977
miliar. Dengan demikian laba bersih terangkat menjadi Rp 215 miliar
dari tahun sebelumnya yaitu Rp 112,7 miliar.
   "Melonjaknya harga CPO di pasar dunia hingga 79,2 persen pada
tahun 2007, membuat angka penjualan SGRO naik. Namun, target penjualan
tahun ini masih tergantung dari situasi pasar. Kami tidak bisa
menyebutkan berapa targetnya tahun ini," ujar Sie Eddy Kurniawan,
Direktur PT Sampoerna Agro.
 Hingga akhir 2007, perusahaan ini mempunyai lahan perkebunan
kelapa sawit mencapai 186.572 hektar. Dari jumlah itu, 78.790 hektar
merupakan luas lahan tertanam. Bahkan pada akhir tahun ini juga
perusahaan mendapatkan izin lokasi untuk perluasan lahan hingga 90.396
hektar.
   Eddy mengatakan, selama 2007 Sampoerna Agro mengoperasikan lima
pabrik kelapa sawit dengan total produksi 350 ton tandan buah
segar/jam. pada bulan April 2008 kapasitas produksi ditingkatkan
menjadi 395 ton tandan buah segar/jam. Sementara produksi tandan buah
segar dari perkebunan di Sumatera dan Kalimantan naik menjadi 1,184
juta ton buah segar dari produksi sebelumnya hanya 1,150 juta ton buah
segar.
 "Biaya untuk penanaman setiap hektar mencapai Rp 30 juta sampai
Rp 40 juta. Biaya itu di luar pembangunan pabrik minyak kelapa sawit.
Namun, perusahaan belum akan mengelola buah segar kelapa sawit ke
pabrik bukan milik perusahaan," ujar Yasin Chandra, Direktur PT
Sampoerna Agro.
 RUPS itu juga mengumumkan penggantian Goh Cheng Beng sebagai
Presiden Direktur dan digantikan Ekadharmajanto Kasih, serta seorang
direktur Ali Gunawan yang digantikan Jaffesjah Chandra. RUPS juga
menyetujui pembagian  dividen tunai Rp 21/saham dari total dividen
yang akan dibagikan Rp 39,690 miliar. (hes/ang)
Last Updated ( Tuesday, 01 July 2008 )

Sekuritas meminjam dana Nasabah sebagai MODAL KERJA Sekuritas....Re: [obrolan-bandar] Surat pernyataan

[Bambang Widyastomo]

Dear friends,

Tandatangan adalah opsi. Bila tidak tanda tangan, hanya dapat jasa 
giro. Bila tandatangan, maka kontraknya pinjam-meminjam dan berhak 
atas bunga yang lebih besar.
Ini mengacu pada peraturan BEI yang mengacu pada pinjam-meminjam 
dana nasabah harus diikat dengan surat pernyataan. Intinya, 
Perusahaan tidak boleh pakai uang nasabah 'sembarangan' tanpa seijin 
pemiliknya.

Bukankan selama ini di sekuritas lain sudah biasa ada 
praktek 'simpan hasil'? dan uangnya diputar kembali buat modal? 
Setahu Saya, praktek ini sudah tidak diperkenankan.



-- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Prima Soerjono 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bagaimana jika nasabah memilih begini : dari pada menanda tangani 
surat semacam itu,lebih baik tidak mendapat bunga (interest)? Apakah 
ini semacam option,atau persyaratan di sekuritas?
>  
> Trimakasih
>

Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS

[arifin suparto]

Aku pelanggan setia ranjang PGASbodynya yang aduhai buat aku terangsang 
untuk terus menidurinya mulai dar harga tinggi sampai dia ditinggalkan banyak 
pelanggan kemarin, aku tetap setia. Terakhir aku tiduri dia di harga 
12750..semakin banyak yang meninggalkan dia akan membuat aku semakin setia 
menidurinya sembari berharap dia segera hamil dari benihku yah 16000 
ribuan udah cukup.
 
Best Regards,
Kirun 

--- On Tue, 7/1/08, bayu murti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: bayu murti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 8:14 AM










Kl aq seh sdh perkosa pas 11rb, nunggu hamilnya aja ntar, smoga bayinya 20k ;p

--- Pada Sen, 30/6/08, boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg> menulis:

Dari: boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg>
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Senin, 30 Juni, 2008, 12:31 PM






--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Adam Rajsha"  wrote:
>
> sama Pak, saya mah udah perkosa abis jumat kemaren, ketika dia terletang
> menantang di 12750an...
> 
> kayaknya dia mo horni terus ke 14000an tuch...;)
> 


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[obrolan-bandar] Fw: Efek Kata-Kata Negatif dan Kata-Kata Positif

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Sebaiknya kita semua mulai mengendalikan Kata-kata yang keluar dari mulut kita dengan Kata-Kata yang Positif dan Baik.
 
Setelah mendengarkan info tentang pengaruh Kata-Kata Negatif terhadap Air yang ditulis dalam buku “ The Hidden Messages in Water “ karya Masaru Emoto dan pada halaman 31 buku tersebut disebutkan tentang banyaknya orang yg melakukan percobaan, sayapun tertarik untuk melakukannya sbb:
 

Tempatkan Nasi sisa yg sdh didiamkan semalaman kedalam 2 toples dgn jumlah yg sama, kemudian ditutup rapat. 
Masing-masing toples di tempelin label yg berisi kata2 sbb: 
Toples A : “ Kamu Pintar, Cerdas, Cantik, Baik, Rajin, Sabar, Aku Sayang Padamu, Aku Senang Sekali Melihatmu, Aku Ingin Selalu di dekatmu, I LOVE YOU, Terima Kasih. 
Toples B : “ Kamu Bodoh, Goblok, Jelek, Jahat, Malas, Pemarah, Aku Benci Melihatmu, Aku Sebel Tidak mau dekat dekat kamu “ 
Botol 2 ini saya letakkan terpisah dan pada tempat yg sering dilihat, saya pesan pada istri, anak, dan pembantu untuk membaca label pada botol tersebut setiap kali melihat botol2 tersebut. 
Dan inilah yang terjadi pada nasi tersebut setelah 1 minggu kemudian : 
 
  
 

 
Nasi dalam botol yg di bacakan kata-kata Negatif ternyata cepat sekali berubah menjadi busuk dan berwarna hitam dgn bau yg tidak sedap.
Sedangkan Nasi dalam botol yg di bacakan kata-kata Positif masih berwarna putih kekuningan dan baunya harum seperti ragi.
 
Nah Silahkan teman-teman mencobanya sendiri.
Kalau di buku di katakan ada yg mencoba dgn tiga botol dimana botol ketiga tidak di beri label apa2 alias diabaikan / tidak diperdulikan, dan ternyat beras dlm botol yg diabaikan membusuk jauh lebih cepat dibandingkan botol yg dipapar kata “ Kamu Bodoh”.
 
Bayangkan apa yang akan terjadi dengan anak-anak kita, pasangan hidup kita, rekan-rekan kerja kita, dan orang-orang disekeliling kita, bahkan binatang dan tumbuhan disekeliling kita pun akan merasakan efek yang ditimbulkan dari getaran-getaran yg berasal dari pikiran, dan ucapan yang kita lontarkan setiap saat kepada mereka.
 
Maka sebaiknya selalulah sadar dan bijaksana dalam memillih kata-kata yg akan keluar dari mulut kita, demikian juga kendalikanlah pikiran-pikiran yg timbul dalam batin kita.
 
Semoga tu lisa n ini bermanfaat untuk kita semua.
 
Salam Damai,
 
Caris.
 
Note : jika anda merasa tu lisa n ini bermanfaat utk orang lainnya silahkan forward sebanyak2nya kepada rekan2 anda, semoga dapat menimbulkan hal yg bermanfaat buat mereka. Terima kasih.  



  
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[obrolan-bandar] Tanya: cum date antm & tlkm

[Herman]

RR,

Mohon infonya untuk cum date antm dan tlkm kapan yah?

Thx
Herman