Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Elaine Sui]

*omg Elaine salah apa?

Elaine**
*
2008/7/29 Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
> I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing.
> 2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
> how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
> investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
> from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
> or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ?
> say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
> ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
> ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
>
> Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
>
> compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ?
> my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
> invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
>
>  You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
>
>  *Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus.
> Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu
> Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha
> ha..
>
> Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.
>
> Elaine**
> *
> 2008/7/29 Rei >
>
>> Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
>> target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
>> way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
>>
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ,
>> "Petualang Saham"
>>   wrote:
>> >
>> > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
>> > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
>> > Hehehe...
>> >
>> > compor.com
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
>> "conx_2003" 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
>> > >
>> > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
>> > >
>> > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
>> > >
>> > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
>> > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
>> > >
>> > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
>> ganti
>> > > vertu hihihihihihihi
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>  - - --
>>
>> + +
>> + + + + +
>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> + + + + +
>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BDMN Financial Performance Q2/2008

[kspm_rheza]

Stuju Bung..

d sektor bankiNg BDMN trmasuk yg EPS growthny lumayan tinggi.
pkoknya ..dbwh 5000 strong buy dan tu2p mata.hehe 
BBRI juga..

saat skg ini saham finance undervalued smua..
jd kudu pinter2 cari yg diskonya dah 50%an.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "OB Help desk"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Begitu juga Performance salah satu Blue Chip PERBANKAN yaitu BDMN,
> tetap MANTAP alias tidak mengalami  DEGRADASI akibat krisis
> ekonomi global...
> 
> Malah krisis ekonomi global memberikan kesempatan pada investor
> untuk belanja saham MURAH.
> 
> PER BMDN = 12 pada harga Rp 5550.
> 
> 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] stock split pgas

[mE ME]

ada yang bisa kasi pencerahan kenapa PGAS kok displit ? wong harga juga
cuman 11rbuan ?
bakalan sama nasibnya dengan Inco gak yah ?

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Stevie Lie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>  
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BDMN Financial Performance Q2/2008

[Elaine Sui]

*Strangely, I see SALES on Danamon? COGS? What sales? Did they sell pizza or
something?.. :) This is a joke, right?

Elaine**
*
2008/7/30 OB Help desk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Begitu juga Performance salah satu Blue Chip PERBANKAN yaitu BDMN,
> tetap MANTAP alias tidak mengalami  DEGRADASI akibat krisis
> ekonomi global...
>
> Malah krisis ekonomi global memberikan kesempatan pada investor
> untuk belanja saham MURAH.
>
> PER BMDN = 12 pada harga Rp 5550.
>
>
> Terlampir: BDMN Financial Performance Q2/2008
>
>
> Regards
>
> OB helpdesk
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:51 PM, jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> SIP JM:  Kira-kira sama dengan prediksi saya bahwa OIL akan ke $70-80 .
> Jangan-jangan Pak Khelil ini baca postingan saya di OB.hs..hs..hs..LOL.
>
> Lalu bagaimana dengan tebakan saya:
>
> BUMI 4500, AALI 18000, ANTAM 2500  ...he..he..
>
> Kalo sudah sampe akan SIDEWAY dengan median angka-angka tersebut.
>
> Makanya kalo beli ANTM di 2000, 500 point dah ditangan. Kalo beli di 1500,
> 1000 points bakal masuk kantong. Nah kalo mau BUMI beli di 3000-4000, at
> least 500-1500 points dah dapet.
>
> Bukan ngajak beli atau jual saham lho.

Hebat Om.
Tebakan Anda jitu sekali. Om Jos bisa menebak angkanya dengan akurasi
yang tinggi.
BTW, apa Om Jos yakin BUMI AALI dan ANTM akan SIDEWAYS di angka2 bawah
tsb? Alasannya tolong disebutkan. tx

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[t_bumi]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Kalo yg ini boleh lah untuk external.hehehe..., kira-kira ELTY mo 
kemana
> nih??
> 
>  
> 
> JsxTrader
> 
> sip : tbumi

PTRA, BIPP lebih gawat lagi. 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB...

[Irawan Sudarman]

divergen positive ?

2008/7/30 t_bumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Kelihatannya memang sedang proses akumulasi dan belum ada tanda-
> tanda sdh
> > selesai. Sesekali terjadi vol spike tp harga ngga kemana-mana &
> trend volume
> > terus menurun, ini ciri-ciri fase akumulasi. So far belum terlihat
> ada
> > trading opportunity., cermati jika nanti terjadi breakout..,
> biasanya
> > semakin lama fase akumulasi maka saat masuk fase markup, harga akan
> bergerak
> > cukup jauh.
> >
> >
> >
> > Salam,
> >
> > JsxTrader
> >
> > SIP : TBUMI
>
> TRUB juga berfundamental baik. Harga market saat ini sdh murah.
>
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB...

[t_bumi]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Kelihatannya memang sedang proses akumulasi dan belum ada tanda-
tanda sdh
> selesai. Sesekali terjadi vol spike tp harga ngga kemana-mana & 
trend volume
> terus menurun, ini ciri-ciri fase akumulasi. So far belum terlihat 
ada
> trading opportunity., cermati jika nanti terjadi breakout.., 
biasanya
> semakin lama fase akumulasi maka saat masuk fase markup, harga akan 
bergerak
> cukup jauh.
> 
>  
> 
> Salam,
> 
> JsxTrader  
> 
>  SIP : TBUMI

TRUB juga berfundamental baik. Harga market saat ini sdh murah.

RE: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...

[JsxTrader]

Kelihatannya memang sedang proses akumulasi dan belum ada tanda-tanda sdh
selesai. Sesekali terjadi vol spike tp harga ngga kemana-mana & trend volume
terus menurun, ini ciri-ciri fase akumulasi. So far belum terlihat ada
trading opportunity., cermati jika nanti terjadi breakout.., biasanya
semakin lama fase akumulasi maka saat masuk fase markup, harga akan bergerak
cukup jauh.

 

Salam,

JsxTrader  

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Robby Nugraha
Sent: 30 Juli 2008 10:31
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...

 

Iya nih, kemaren ini liat TRUB kayanya di akumulasi... bener gak sih?

2008/7/30 kennnsss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

For Pak DE, JSX Trader n Bung Ocoy

Jika dilihat dgn menggunakan Freq Anal nya Pak DE, TRUB apakah lagi 
distribusi atau akumulasi ?

Bagaimana Potensi saham TRUB secara fundamental n valuasi ?

Mohon Pencerahan utk Newbiebanget ... Thx

 

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] OIL 120 ?

[arif ahmadi]

Kalau dia dulu bilang mau ke 170 sampe sampe nya di 147 an sekarang dia bilang 
mau ke 70-80 ya paling turun ke 100 an lah. Wah gimana harga coal, CPO dan 
komoditi lainnya nanti?

--- On Wed, 7/30/08, Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] OIL 120 ?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 1:39 AM






Bisa2 aja nih OPEC,dulu yang bilang oil mo ke $170 juga si Chakib ini


On 7/30/08, TH  wrote:






Oil falls to 12-week low on demand worries
Reuters UK, UK - 9 minutes ago
OPEC President Chakib Khelil said on Tuesday oil could fall further to $70 to 
$80 a barrel in the long term but added he did not think the producer group ...
 














  

[obrolan-bandar] UNTR Financial Performance Q2/2008

[OB Help desk]

Performance salah satu Blue Chip BEJ yaitu UNTR tetap MANTAP alias tidak
mengalami  DEGRADASI akibat krisis ekonomi global...

Terlampir: UNTR Financial Performance Q2/2008


Regards

OB helpdesk

   UNTR   Date : 29-07-08
   Financial Performance (in billion Rp)
  www.investdata.net
 
   2008|   2007| 2006|
 29-07-08 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3|
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
Sales 12.591  5.785 18.165 13.230  8.193  3.726 13.719 10.461
COGS  10.133  4.758 14.918 10.860  6.833  3.076 11.338  8.556
Gross Marg 2.458  1.026  3.247  2.370  1.360650  2.380  1.905
GM (%)19 17 17 17 16 17 17 18
Opr Profit 1.931780| 2.397  1.686931442| 1.337  1.210
OP (%)15 13 13 12 11 11  9 11
Net Profit 1.206516| 1.493  1.105552248|   930842
NP (%) 9  8  8  8  6  6  6  8
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
Stk Price  10.850 12.150 12.550|10.900  8.200  8.250  7.400| 6.550  6.050
Book Value 2.294  2.178| 2.010  1.864  1.519  1.699| 1.611  1.581
PBV  4,73   5,29   5,76|  5,42   4,40   5,43   4,35|  4,07   3,83
DER 1,62   1,41|  1,27   1,40   1,87   1,44|  1,45   1,55
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
ROE (%)   36 33|26 27 25 20|20 24
ROA (%)   14 13|11 11  8  8| 8  9
Opr prof/share   677273|   840591326155|   468424
EPS  422181|   523387193 87|   326295
EPS (Qtr)241181|   135194106 87|30106
EPS (Annu)   845724|   523516387348|   326393
PER 12,83  14,36  17,32| 20,82  15,86  21,30  21,26| 20,08  15,37
PER (Qtr)  12,56  17,32| 20,06  10,57  19,33  21,26| 52,87  14,20
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
COP (year)   8,01   8,97  11,47  12,97  10,40  12,63  11,93  13,97  10,69
CLOP(year)  10,75  11,71  14,27  16,00  13,70  16,97  15,87  18,94  15,02
CLOP(Qtr*)  9,82  14,27  13,49  10,20  16,15  15,87  50,05  13,35
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
Sales Growth(%)   53 55 32 26
Op.Prof Growth(%)107 76 79 39
Net.Prof/EPS Grow118108 60 31
PEG (<1) 0,11   0,12   0,16|  0,34   0,51
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
Sales(Qtr) 6.806  5.785  4.934  5.037  4.467  3.726  3.257  3.544
COGS (Qtr) 5.374  4.758  4.057  4.027  3.757  3.076  2.781  2.900
Gross Marg(Qtr)1.431  1.026877  1.009709650475644
GM (%)21 17 17 20 15 17 14 18
OP.PR (Qtr)1.151780710754489442126454
OP %  16 13 14 14 10 11  3 12
NET.PR (Qtr) 689516387553304248 88303
NP %  10  8  7 10  6  6  2  8
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
Asset 17.122 14.964|13.002 12.740 12.428 11.812|11.247 11.506
Liability 10.578  8.751| 7.269  7.424  8.095  6.966| 6.653  6.997
Equity 6.544  6.213| 5.733  5.316  4.333  4.846| 4.594  4.509
Capitalis. 30.939 34.647 35.787|31.082 23.383 23.525 21.101|18.678 17.252
Share(mil) 2.851  2.851  2.851  2.851  2.851  2.851  2.851  2.851
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
 
See ERROR and OMISSION 

[obrolan-bandar] BDMN Financial Performance Q2/2008

[OB Help desk]

Begitu juga Performance salah satu Blue Chip PERBANKAN yaitu BDMN,
tetap MANTAP alias tidak mengalami  DEGRADASI akibat krisis
ekonomi global...

Malah krisis ekonomi global memberikan kesempatan pada investor
untuk belanja saham MURAH.

PER BMDN = 12 pada harga Rp 5550.


Terlampir: BDMN Financial Performance Q2/2008


Regards

OB helpdesk

   BDMN   Date : 29-07-08
   Financial Performance (in billion Rp)
  www.investdata.net
 
   2008|   2007| 2006|
 29-07-08 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3|
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
Sales  7.383  3.575 13.471 10.027  6.596  3.237 11.955  8.746
COGS   2.863  1.396  5.662  4.253  2.890  1.438  5.758  4.283
Gross Marg 4.519  2.178  7.808  5.773  3.706  1.799  6.197  4.462
GM (%)61 60 57 57 56 55 51 51
Opr Profit 1.932957| 3.603  2.708  1.724827| 2.552  1.707
OP (%)26 26 26 27 26 25 21 19
Net Profit 1.158562| 2.116  1.599  1.019482| 1.325914
NP (%)15 15 15 15 15 14 11 10
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
Stk Price   5.550  4.850  6.900| 8.000  8.450  6.900  6.550| 6.750  5.300
Book Value 2.049  2.276| 2.162  2.114  2.004  1.891| 1.917  1.680
PBV  2,71   2,37   3,03|  3,70   4,00   3,44   3,46|  3,52   3,15
DER 8,38   7,27|  7,25   7,50   7,97   8,17|  7,69   8,39
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
ROE (%)   22 20|19 20 20 20|14 14
ROA (%)2  2| 2  2  2  2| 1  1
Opr prof/share   384195|   719552351168|   518348
EPS  230114|   422326208 98|   269186
EPS (Qtr)118114|   103118109 98|83 72
EPS (Annu)   461459|   422435416393|   269248
PER 12,03  10,51  15,02| 18,94  19,41  16,57  16,64| 25,07  21,29
PER (Qtr)  10,22  15,02| 19,38  17,85  15,71  16,64| 20,20  18,23
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
COP (year)   7,21   6,30   8,82  11,12  11,46   9,80   9,70  13,02  11,40
CLOP(year)  29,54  28,63  29,98  32,93  32,96  32,48  32,57  41,47  41,71
CLOP(Qtr*) 28,38  29,98  33,14  30,23  31,22  32,57  31,32  39,32
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
Sales Growth(%)   11 10 12 14
Op.Prof Growth(%) 12 15 41 58
Net.Prof/EPS Grow 13 16 59 75
PEG (<1) 0,89   0,77   0,90|  0,32   0,26
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
Sales(Qtr) 3.807  3.575  3.444  3.430  3.358  3.237  3.209  3.084
COGS (Qtr) 1.466  1.396  1.409  1.363  1.452  1.438  1.474  1.466
Gross Marg(Qtr)2.341  2.178  2.035  2.067  1.906  1.799  1.734  1.617
GM (%)61 60 59 60 56 55 54 52
OP.PR (Qtr)  974957895984897827844603
OP %  25 26 25 28 26 25 26 19
NET.PR (Qtr) 595562517579537482411355
NP %  15 15 15 16 16 14 12 11
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
Asset 96.582 92.178|89.409 87.986 88.042 84.946|82.072 77.250
Liability 86.285 81.025|78.576 77.630 78.223 75.678|72.630 69.021
Equity10.296 11.152|10.833 10.356  9.818  9.268| 9.441  8.228
Capitalis. 27.877 24.361 33.801|40.085 41.394 33.801 32.086|33.232 25.952
Share(mil) 5.022  4.898  5.010  4.898  4.898  4.898  4.923  4.896
-- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- --
 
See ERROR and OMISSION 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...

[Robby Nugraha]

Iya nih, kemaren ini liat TRUB kayanya di akumulasi... bener gak sih?

2008/7/30 kennnsss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   For Pak DE, JSX Trader n Bung Ocoy
>
> Jika dilihat dgn menggunakan Freq Anal nya Pak DE, TRUB apakah lagi
> distribusi atau akumulasi ?
>
> Bagaimana Potensi saham TRUB secara fundamental n valuasi ?
>
> Mohon Pencerahan utk Newbiebanget ... Thx
>
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] metal turun lagi...

[Hanif Mantiq]

*Weekly TD Sequential udah perintah kuat untuk beli 
ANTM di kisaran 2400 an . Buat trader, Buy Now Happy
Later, Buat Investor Buy On every Weakness, CMIIW
jangan lupa berdoa sebelum beli :)* 


Re: [saham] metal turun lagi... 
Posted by: "Dean Earwicker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
earwicker_dean 
Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:47 am (PDT) 
"Sptnya gak usah dijawab. Udah jelas pasti nyungsebh",
kata Mr. Market

Nyungseb = ekspektasi pasar.

Nah, KALAU ternyata penurunan ANTM ternyata *nggak
sedalam* persepsi pasar,
bisa jadi ANTM malah naik. Persepsi pasar menganggap
manajemen ANTM mampu
bertahan dalam kondisi yang tidak menguntungkan. Nah
loh.

Jadi tunggu aja laporan semester I, mudahan tidak
seburuk yang kita duga.

Regards,
DE

Pada 29 Juli 2008 22:21, IDX Analyst  menulis:

> Terutama untuk nickel, sudah di US$8/lb. Untuk INCO
realisasinya 75% dari
> harga LME, berarti cuma dapat US$6/lb. Dengan
peningkatan harga minyak,
> biaya produksi diperkirakan meningkat ke kisaran
US$4.5-5.0/lb. Berarti
> marginnya cuma US$1-1.5/lb. Dikurangi lagi dengan
biaya admin dll, maka bisa
> jadi cuma impas doang dengan harga nickel sekarang.
Mungkin untuk Q2 ini
> INCO masih ada laba walaupun sangat jauh lebih kecil
dibandingkan tahun
> lalu. Tapi dengan tren penurunan harga nickel ini
ada kemungkinan Q3 malah
> mengalami kerugian.
>
> Ini baru INCO yang katanya paling efisien karena
sumber tenaganya dari
> PLTA. Bagaimana dengan ANTM yang ketergantungan pada
minyaknya lebih tinggi
> dan otomatis mempunyai biaya produksi yang lebih
tinggi?
>
> Bagaimana pendapat teman2?



  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...

[gusmar]

TRUB
Tinggal nunggu BULL nya aja, cari moment yg tepat.
Sejak 17/7  harga dijaga ketat di level 770.  Naik dikit guyur. Nunggu turun ? 
Paling dapetnya di 760.
Buat yg mau koleksi masih ada kesempatan collect diharga tsb.
Fundamental : bagus,  proyeknya banyak. 



  - Original Message - 
  From: kennnsss 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:41 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...


  For Pak DE, JSX Trader n Bung Ocoy

  Jika dilihat dgn menggunakan Freq Anal nya Pak DE, TRUB apakah lagi 
  distribusi atau akumulasi ?

  Bagaimana Potensi saham TRUB secara fundamental n valuasi ?

  Mohon Pencerahan utk Newbiebanget ... Thx



   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] FW: BUMI "mining goes on in KPC mines despite land dispute"

[anru dadaq]

ini diissued tgl 5 juni sempat nyungsep ke 5500-an

2008/7/29 rudd hass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 4:27 PM
> > 
> >
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[obrolan-bandar] BBNI LSIP JSMR

[big_man99cool]

BBNI LSIP JSMR,ada yg tahu saham ini mau dibawa kemana?

Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII mau MANGGUNG

[Eddy Santoso]

marilah kita berharap begitu bu BT.

asalkan manggungnya tidak nanggung-nanggung.



On 7/29/08, Bettina Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>yang penting ASII manggung lusa..
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM BULL? Bullish Engulfing has occured

[Eddy Santoso]

SUPPLY-DEMAND komoditas REAL (fisik barangnya) BERBEDA dengan SUPPLY-DEMAND
kontrak perdagangan berjangka surat berharga, seperti misalnya lme.

Seringkali di kontrak berjangka terjadi euphoria berlebihan (baik
kegembiraan maupun ketakutan) yang pada akhirnya akan mengacu kepada kondisi
perdagangan fisik barang/komoditas bersangkutan.

Yang perlu dikhawatirkan adalah apabila demand daripada komoditas yang
bersangkutan, dalam hal ini nickel, bila sudah tidak berguna bagi kehidupan
manusia. Untuk sisi supply, mgkn sementara ini stocknya meggunung, tapi REAL
supply dibumi ini apa pertumbuhannya melebihi sisi real demand?

Yang lebih perlu dikhawatirkan lagi apabila sekarang masih ada yg doyan maen
margin...
kayaknya margin trader sekarang ini utk wilayah komoditas kalo MASIH bisa
gain itu perlu dikelilingi dua atau tiga dewi fortuner. hehehe
Apalagi kalau dewi fortunernya maniez-maniez n ramah-ramah (rajin
men...), pasti lebih dari sekedar menjanjikan.


sekedar men"support" komoditas bagi "true" komoditas lovers...


On 7/29/08, IDX Analyst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>kalo nickel di US$8/lb bisa2 cuma impas doang mas, soalnya kalau INCO
> realisasi harganya cuma 75% dari LME atau US$6/lb sedangkan biaya
> produksinya udah 4.5-5/lb, kalau dikurangilagi dengan biaya admin dll
> jadinya impas. Kalo nikel LME jatuh lagi di bawah 8 bisa jadi rugi deh..
> ancur.. target harga? gak mau ngira2 deh kalo perusahaan udah rugi.. bisa
> aja di bawah 1000 deh INCo. Apalagi ANTM.. divisi nikelnya mungkin udah
> ancur lebur. Beruntung masih ada tambang emas yang harganya lagi tinggi
> walaupun cuma sebagian kecil dari kontribusi...
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:40 AM, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>>--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
>> "Seph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > See the cart.
>> >
>> > CMIIW.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thx
>> >
>>
>> Nikel turun...LAGI
>> kemungkinan hanya teknikal rebound aja...
>> ANTM 1500-2000 is SO SURE
>> INCO 3500 - 4000
>>
>> walau bisa aja melanjutkan Teknikal reboundnya..
>>
>>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120

[agung aja]

biar rame
mending bantuin militan nigeria angkat senjata serang kilang2 minyak yuk...
hahaha

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, icchanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: icchanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 6:09 PM






CUT LOST kayak yang beli INCO di 9000an dan ANTM di 5000an!!!

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, iwanibe <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> Sorry, agak diluar jalur.
> Saya sih senang oil turun lagi, pertamax bisa turun.
> 
> Cuma, gigit jari aja company yg beberapa waktu lalu beli minyak di
130 an,
> dan di hedge.
> waktu minyak turun ke 70 an, gak bisa apa-apa dong.
> Kalau kejadiannya kaya gitu, apa yg harus dilakukan oleh si company ybs.
> 
> 
> On 7/29/08, jos_martino  wrote:
> 
> > *Oil prices above 120 dollars "abnormal," OPEC president says*
> >
> > Jul 29, 2008, 9:17 GMT
> >
> > Jakarta - Crude oil prices above 120 dollars a barrel are
'abnormal' but
> > they could fall to around *78 *dollars under the right
circumstances, the
> > president of OPEC said Tuesday.
> >
> > 'If the dollar continues to strengthen and the political situation
> > improves, then the long-term prices will be about *78 *dollars,'
Chakib
> > Khelil said while on a visit to Indonesia.
> >
> > He added that the market was well-supplied with oil, refuting
arguments
> > that there is a world shortage of the commodity and members of the
> > Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) should
increase
> > production.
> >
> > 'There's a balance in the market,' Khelil said. 'I would say [oil]
stocks
> > are at a good level, and there hasn't been any disruption in demand.'
> >
> > He added that he did not believe OPEC members should cut
production if oil
> > prices continued to fall.
> >
> > During his visit, Khelil also urged Indonesia to remain a member
of the
> > cartel even though it had seen its oil production fall and has
become an oil
> > importer.
> >
> > Indonesian Energy Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said Indonesia
would quit
> > OPEC after December 31.
> >
> > SIP JM: Kira-kira sama dengan prediksi saya bahwa OIL akan ke
*$70-80 *.
> > Jangan-jangan Pak Khelil ini baca postingan saya di
OB.hs..hs. .hs..LOL.
> >
> > Lalu bagaimana dengan tebakan saya:
> >
> > *BUMI 4500, AALI 18000, ANTAM 2500 ...he..he..*
> >
> > Kalo sudah sampe akan *SIDEWAY* dengan *median* angka-angka tersebut.
> >
> > Makanya kalo beli ANTM di 2000, 500 point dah ditangan. Kalo beli
di 1500,
> > 1000 points bakal masuk kantong. Nah kalo mau BUMI beli di
3000-4000, at
> > least 500-1500 points dah dapet.
> >
> > Bukan ngajak beli atau jual saham lho.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
>

 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120

[Ridwan Musthafa]

Btw, kalo kira2 minyak emang ke $70 - $80 pemerintah turunin bbm nggak ya.
Kalo turun pemerintah bisa pecahkan rekor tuh. Dan besar kemungkinan bisa
terjadi deflasi...Itung2 naekin pamor sby yg lagi jatuh karna naekin bbm
kemarin..

ya kira2 aja


Pada 30 Juli 2008 05:09, icchanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

> CUT LOST kayak yang beli INCO di 9000an dan ANTM di 5000an!!!
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, iwanibe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, agak diluar jalur.
> > Saya sih senang oil turun lagi, pertamax bisa turun.
> >
> > Cuma, gigit jari aja company yg beberapa waktu lalu beli minyak di
> 130 an,
> > dan di hedge.
> > waktu minyak turun ke 70 an, gak bisa apa-apa dong.
> > Kalau kejadiannya kaya gitu, apa yg harus dilakukan oleh si company ybs.
> >
> >
> > On 7/29/08, jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >*Oil prices above 120 dollars "abnormal," OPEC president says*
> > >
> > > Jul 29, 2008, 9:17 GMT
> > >
> > > Jakarta - Crude oil prices above 120 dollars a barrel are
> 'abnormal' but
> > > they could fall to around *78 *dollars under the right
> circumstances, the
> > > president of OPEC said Tuesday.
> > >
> > > 'If the dollar continues to strengthen and the political situation
> > > improves, then the long-term prices will be about *78 *dollars,'
> Chakib
> > > Khelil said while on a visit to Indonesia.
> > >
> > > He added that the market was well-supplied with oil, refuting
> arguments
> > > that there is a world shortage of the commodity and members of the
> > > Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) should
> increase
> > > production.
> > >
> > > 'There's a balance in the market,' Khelil said. 'I would say [oil]
> stocks
> > > are at a good level, and there hasn't been any disruption in demand.'
> > >
> > > He added that he did not believe OPEC members should cut
> production if oil
> > > prices continued to fall.
> > >
> > > During his visit, Khelil also urged Indonesia to remain a member
> of the
> > > cartel even though it had seen its oil production fall and has
> become an oil
> > > importer.
> > >
> > > Indonesian Energy Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said Indonesia
> would quit
> > > OPEC after December 31.
> > >
> > > SIP JM:  Kira-kira sama dengan prediksi saya bahwa OIL akan ke
> *$70-80 *.
> > > Jangan-jangan Pak Khelil ini baca postingan saya di
> OB.hs..hs..hs..LOL.
> > >
> > > Lalu bagaimana dengan tebakan saya:
> > >
> > > *BUMI 4500, AALI 18000, ANTAM 2500  ...he..he..*
> > >
> > > Kalo sudah sampe akan *SIDEWAY* dengan *median* angka-angka tersebut.
> > >
> > > Makanya kalo beli ANTM di 2000, 500 point dah ditangan. Kalo beli
> di 1500,
> > > 1000 points bakal masuk kantong. Nah kalo mau BUMI beli di
> 3000-4000, at
> > > least 500-1500 points dah dapet.
> > >
> > > Bukan ngajak beli atau jual saham lho.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
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> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Paulus Tangke Allo]

kalau tembus 430 dgn high volume, udah oke belum pak utk entry point?
trus nanti take profit dulu di 560. gimana??


--pta


2008/7/29 Tasrul Tanar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Yup, dari chart saya juga ada indikasi demikian, namun maaf, hanya untuk
> internal, di  harga berapa harus diambil dan berapa target terdekatnya.

Re: [obrolan-bandar] VICTORY Formation (2278)

[Pemain Mini]

hahaha.lagi pingin miss V kah ?
silakan dimasukin ajah.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Andi Wahyudi 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] VICTORY Formation (2278)


Miss V(ictory) udah terbentuk ya Mbah?

Wah ini malah ngawur kaudrat

--- On Wed, 30/7/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  From: abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] VICTORY Formation (2278)
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, 30 July, 2008, 12:32 AM


  2008/7/29 jsx_consultant :
  > VICTORY Formation
  >
  > Embah kirim update grafik IHSG
  >
  > http://www.trader20 00.com/piwihsg. png
  >
  > Terlihat terbentuknya formasi V atau Victory...
  >
  > Mudah mudahan dengan terbentuknya formasi Victory ini,
  > market akan lebih BERMURAH HATI pada investor dan trader...

  Waduh Embah sampe bela2in begadang buat bikinan V Chart.

  Atau sambil chatting sama temen2 OB?
  Klo gak, mending kagak ikutan.
  Malem2 gini, obrolannya suka agak2 ngawur ... ck ck ck

   

  Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com 

   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] OIL 120 ?

[Bernie]

Bisa2 aja nih OPEC,dulu yang bilang oil mo ke $170 juga si Chakib ini

On 7/30/08, TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oil falls to 12-week low on demand 
> worries
> Reuters UK, UK - 9 minutes ago
> OPEC President *Chakib Khelil* said on Tuesday oil could fall further to
> $70 to $80 a barrel in the long term but added he did not think the producer
> group *...*
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Bernie]

Saya pikir kesalahan ada di timing. Sebagus apapun fundamental tapi harga
masih downtrend/flat,tetap gak akan kemana-mana. Secara sektoral juga saham2
selalu ada siklusnya masing.

On 7/29/08, Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
> I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing.
> 2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
> how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
> investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
> from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
> or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ?
> say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
> ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
> ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
>
> Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
>
> compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ?
> my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
> invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
>
> You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
>
> *Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus.
> Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu
> Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha
> ha..
>
> Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.
>
> Elaine**
> *
> 2008/7/29 Rei >
>
>> Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
>> target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
>> way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
>>
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ,
>> "Petualang Saham"
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
>> > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
>> > Hehehe...
>> >
>> > compor.com
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
>> "conx_2003" 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
>> > >
>> > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
>> > >
>> > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
>> > >
>> > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
>> > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
>> > >
>> > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
>> ganti
>> > > vertu hihihihihihihi
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Rully]

Still shining

Dominic Whiting 

Monday, July 28, 2008
 
Where can you get prime land, thousands of homes and some shopping 
malls virtually for free? Indonesia, it seems.
While global investors shirk at anything property-related after the 
US subprime mortgage meltdown, Indonesian developers are possibly 
Asia's best kept secret, because brisk home sales contradict share 
prices that reflect a market crash.

Property stocks in Southeast Asia's largest economy are so cheap 
they are offering their property for next to nothing, said CLSA 
analyst Daniel Oen.

Ciputra Development, whose cash almost equals its market 
capitalisation, is gifting investors stakes in three retail- hotel 
complexes, a central Jakarta commercial development and housing 
projects, Oen calculates.

Using his model, which takes market capitalization, deducts cash and 
a value for recurring income, Summarecon Agung is offering its land 
bank to stock investors at a 70 percent discount to its own selling 
price.

"No question, it's a bargain right now," Oen said.

Owning stocks rather than land involves taking on the risk of a 
company going bust. But although the Indonesia property stock index 
has fallen 33 percent this year because of rising inflation and 
interest rates, developers are prospering.

Ciputra Development more than doubled its home presales in the first 
half of this year and rival Bakrieland Development notched up 76 
percent growth.

Housing booms are turning to slowdowns as rising interest rates bite 
in India, Singapore and Hong Kong. China is targeting property to 
cool its economy, and inflation and high financing costs have cast a 
pall over Asia's property trusts.

But in Indonesia, no stranger to high inflation and interest rates, 
Jakarta home prices are up around 15 percent from a year ago, 
allowing developers to nudge margins up despite a similar rise in 
land and construction costs.

And while interest rates are rising, the introduction of fixed rate 
mortgages is proving popular with home buyers. At 10.25 percent, 
they seem expensive internationally but are a bargain compared with 
the 18 percent going rate a couple of years ago.

Ciptra Development and Bakrieland are trading at 66 percent and 54 
percent discounts to forecast 2008 net asset value, compared to a 26 
percent average discount in the rest of Asia, where housing markets 
are struggling.

But fund managers are yet to take the plunge, because low trade 
volumes for Indonesian property stocks means it is difficult for 
them to invest nimbly.

Only around US$1 million (HK$7.8 million) worth of Ciptra 
Development shares change hands each day, and the most liquid stock 
is Bakrieland, with around US$10 million of daily volume.

"It's not a very meaningful part of our universe," said Frankie Lee, 
property fund manager at Henderson Global Investments in Singapore.

Housing sales growth will probably weaken in coming months because 
of rising interest rates, according to Credit Suisse analyst Teddy 
Oetomo, but a complete market freeze is unlikely because the 
resource-rich economy is in decent shape.

Most developers have learned from a torrid time with inflation in 
2005, and have signed "price-volume" contracts with cement and steel 
suppliers, capping cost rises to 2-3 percent this year, compared to 
the 7-8 percent hikes in 2005.

"The market has punished stocks, expecting a worst case scenario, as 
in 2005," Oetomo said. "But things aren't as bad as 2005. Some of 
the money made from the commodities boom is being invested in 
Jakarta and Surabaya property." 

REUTERS 

http://thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?
we_cat=16&art_id=69172&sid=19934092&con_type=1&d_str=20080728&fc=1


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Juragan Cumi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Yang ditungguin Elaine dah mau terjadi: orang kehilangan akal sehat
> dan melakukan hal bodoh.
> 
> Jadi kalem aja. Ini permainan kesabaran. Siapa tahu kalo ntar 
jadinya
> malah Elaine yang melakukan hal bodoh karena dah dimarahin 
investornya
> lagi.
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/30/08, Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > HOLD 'aja-lah - mudah2an itu saham2 Bakrie-nya suatu saat 
menjadi berjaya2
> > kembali, saham2 jawara spt yl.
> >
> > Happy Chuan,
> >
> > Aria
> >
> >
> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Paulus Tangke Allo
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:16 PM
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? 
BANKRUPT
> > INVESTOR
> >
> > kalau gak salah, beberapa waktu yang lalu, Pak Alfatih pernah 
post
> > mengenai historical data JSX, intinya ada rentang waktu tertentu
> > dimana buy and hold cocok utk diterapkan namun ada juga rentang 
waktu
> > dimana buy and hold justru bikin rugi (lebih pas utk trading).
> >
> > tahun ini kalau tidak salah rentang waktu yg cocok utk trading, 
di
> > tahun2 ke depan, bukan tidak mungkin sejarah terulang kembali 
dimana
> > ter

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[conx_2003]

wah klo ada signal kayak gini nih suruh beli nih

makin semangat kumpulinnyaa ayo2 dibuang terus sampe 340an hehehhe

saya uda jual hape nih buat beli elty
mo jual aquarium lagi deh

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Juragan Cumi]

Yang ditungguin Elaine dah mau terjadi: orang kehilangan akal sehat
dan melakukan hal bodoh.

Jadi kalem aja. Ini permainan kesabaran. Siapa tahu kalo ntar jadinya
malah Elaine yang melakukan hal bodoh karena dah dimarahin investornya
lagi.



On 7/30/08, Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HOLD 'aja-lah - mudah2an itu saham2 Bakrie-nya suatu saat menjadi berjaya2
> kembali, saham2 jawara spt yl.
>
> Happy Chuan,
>
> Aria
>
>
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Paulus Tangke Allo
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:16 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT
> INVESTOR
>
> kalau gak salah, beberapa waktu yang lalu, Pak Alfatih pernah post
> mengenai historical data JSX, intinya ada rentang waktu tertentu
> dimana buy and hold cocok utk diterapkan namun ada juga rentang waktu
> dimana buy and hold justru bikin rugi (lebih pas utk trading).
>
> tahun ini kalau tidak salah rentang waktu yg cocok utk trading, di
> tahun2 ke depan, bukan tidak mungkin sejarah terulang kembali dimana
> terdapat rentang waktu yang pas utk menerapkan buy and hold.
>
> --pta
>
> On 7/29/08, Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > wrote:
>>
>>
>> hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
>> I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing.
>> 2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
>> how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
>> investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
>> from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
>> or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ?
>> say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
>> ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
>> ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
>>
>> Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
>>
>> compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ?
>> my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
>> invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
>
>


-- 
Salam,
Sudahkah anda makan cumi hari ini?

Re: [obrolan-bandar] semua turun..

[Mas Soemringah]

Semoga karena ini ASII manggung.

Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Perolehan laba bersih PT Astra International Tbk
(ASII) sepanjang semester I 2008 sebesar Rp4,75 triliun atau naik 81 persen
dibandingkan periode yang sama sebelumnya.

"Kenaikan laba bersih ini dipicu oleh naiknya pendapatan perseroan sebesar
46 persen menjadi Rp46,27 triliun," kata Presdir ASII, Michael D. Ruslim
dalam siaran pers Selasa.

Laba usaha perseroan juga naik 93 persen dari Rp3,42 triliun menjadi Rp6,61
triliun. Total aktiva naik 10 persen menjadi Rp29,69 triliun.

Michael mengatakan secara keseluruhan bidang usaha otomotif dan jasa
keuangan (di luar perusahaan asosiasi dan patungan) menyumbang laba usaha
sebesar Rp2,23 triliun atau naik 57 persen.

Sedangkan sumbangan dari perusahaan asosiasi dan patungan di bidang usaha
otomotif dan jasa keuangan mencapai Rp1,11 triliun atau naik 50 persen.

Sementara laba usaha perseroan yang berasal dari bidang non otomotif
(agribisnis, alat berat, infrastruktur dan teknologi informasi) mengalami
kenaikan 119 persen menjadi Rp4,3 triliun.(*)

2008/7/29 Bettina Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   yang penting ASII manggung lusa..
>  
>

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: need answer

[Aria Bela Nusa]

Kalo Fut, Options itu - setahu saya termasup high level - tapi kalo stock
ini masih kategori low level (malah tradisional, konvensional, 'loh) - kita
masih dikasih waktu yg tersedia lebih dr 1 (satu) hari utk menilai bgm
tradings (jual-beli) kita selanjutnya & nilai sahamnya (tentunya produk
saham arahnya utk investasi - sesuai dg sifat, karakteristiknya) tidak-lah
menjadi 0 ('ilang2 'abis - begitu 'aja) ato neg (-)
 
:) Terus-terang 'aja - kalo high level itu saya bener2 'ndak 'ngarti
begitu2'an sama sekali - saya bisanya yg sederhana2, gampang2 'aja, 'dah.
 
Happy Chuan,
 
Aria
 
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of toniy76
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:04 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: need answer
 
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , "Meizal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ikut nimbrung ya pak.
> 
> Kalau bapak tujuan investasi lebih untuk spekulasi (risk taker ),
instrument di future mungkin cocok untuk bapak, tapi kalau tipe bapak
risk moderat,sebaik nya cari perusahaan yang di belakang nya ada title
sekuritas nya ( perusahaan sekuritas ,bukan perusahaan future )
> 
> karna future dan sekuritas ( securities ) itu beda pak; 
> 
> kalau bapak mau berinvestasi di produk turunan saham( yang mana risk
reward nya lebih tinggi dari saham langsung ( equity )),pilihan nya
perusahaan futures,disana yang di perdagangkan nya bukan saham
langsung ( asset ) tapi kontrak nya -makan nya disebut produk turunan
saham- ;) ( Co:Hanseng,kospi,nikkei),bursanya bukan BEJ,tapi BBJ (
bursa Berjangka Jakarta ),nanti mekanisme nya kira2 seperti ini
pak...account bapak akan didongkrak nilai nya dengan yang nama nya
leverage (jadi dengan modal US$ 10.000 seolah2 bapak berinvestasi US
$100.000 ) --> leverage ini yang bikin banyak orang kapok berinvestasi
di futures...risk managment nya kudu jago banget pak untuk bisa
survive di dunia ini..silahkan coba diskusikan lagi dengan marketing
yang menawarkan produk ini ke bapak agar jelas aturan main nya
> 
> Kalau disaham langsung ( Equity ),bapak harus buka account di
perusahaan sekuritas,dan yang bapak jual dan beli itu asset karna
bapak beli perusahaan nya langsung,co: TLKM,Bumi dsb.karna sifat
nya yang asset maka tingkat risikonya masih dibawah
future...sekuritas selain menjual saham langsung( equity ) juga
menjual Obligasi, produk pasar uang dan reksadana.jadi kalo bapak
mau coba memperkecil risiko dengan diversivikasi asset...sekuritas
lebih cocok.
> 
> Semua nya sih balik lagi ke preferensi risiko bapak, kalau boleh
saran coba kenalin dulu tujuan&tingkat resiko yang bisa bapak tolelir
sebelum memutuskan investasi seperti apa yang mau dipilih...biar gak
ngedumel belakangan hehehehehe
> 
> Maaf kalo ada yang kurang tepat  mungkin rekan2 ada yang punya
masukan lain??
> 
> -- good luck ---
> 
> regrad's
> 
> trimspa meirizal, btw kalo suggest dari bpk perusahaan mana yg
recomended dan siapa yg bisa sy hubungi, trims buat follow up
messagenya ..

regards 
 

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Aria Bela Nusa]

HOLD 'aja-lah - mudah2an itu saham2 Bakrie-nya suatu saat menjadi berjaya2
kembali, saham2 jawara spt yl.
 
Happy Chuan,
 
Aria
 
 
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Paulus Tangke Allo
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:16 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT
INVESTOR
 
kalau gak salah, beberapa waktu yang lalu, Pak Alfatih pernah post
mengenai historical data JSX, intinya ada rentang waktu tertentu
dimana buy and hold cocok utk diterapkan namun ada juga rentang waktu
dimana buy and hold justru bikin rugi (lebih pas utk trading).

tahun ini kalau tidak salah rentang waktu yg cocok utk trading, di
tahun2 ke depan, bukan tidak mungkin sejarah terulang kembali dimana
terdapat rentang waktu yang pas utk menerapkan buy and hold.

--pta

On 7/29/08, Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > wrote:
>
>
> hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
> I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing.
> 2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
> how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
> investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
> from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
> or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ?
> say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
> ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
> ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
>
> Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
>
> compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ?
> my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
> invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
 

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] metal turun lagi...

[Aria Bela Nusa]

Kalo dilihat dr pembagian Dev-nya - deviden antm masih gede2, 'loh - kalo
inco 'udah mengecil2 banget - so bgm sebenernya ekspektasi ke depan2nya -
kita lihat2 'aja - yah.
 
Happy Chuan,
 
Aria
 
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Frendy
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:59 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] metal turun lagi...
 
hmmyg news cuan 135 % itu berita kapan ya pak ?
wew
 
- Original Message - 
From: Dean   Earwicker 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:47 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] metal turun lagi...
 
"Sptnya gak usah dijawab. Udah jelas pasti nyungsebh", kata Mr. Market

Nyungseb = ekspektasi pasar.

Nah, KALAU ternyata penurunan ANTM ternyata nggak sedalam persepsi pasar,
bisa jadi ANTM malah naik. Persepsi pasar menganggap manajemen ANTM mampu
bertahan dalam kondisi yang tidak menguntungkan. Nah loh.

Jadi tunggu aja laporan semester I, mudahan tidak seburuk yang kita duga.


Regards,
DE
Pada 29 Juli 2008 22:21, IDX Analyst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
Terutama untuk nickel, sudah di US$8/lb. Untuk INCO realisasinya 75% dari
harga LME, berarti cuma dapat US$6/lb. Dengan peningkatan harga minyak,
biaya produksi diperkirakan meningkat ke kisaran US$4.5-5.0/lb. Berarti
marginnya cuma US$1-1.5/lb. Dikurangi lagi dengan biaya admin dll, maka bisa
jadi cuma impas doang dengan harga nickel sekarang. Mungkin untuk Q2 ini
INCO masih ada laba walaupun sangat jauh lebih kecil dibandingkan tahun
lalu. Tapi dengan tren penurunan harga nickel ini ada kemungkinan Q3 malah
mengalami kerugian.
 
Ini baru INCO yang katanya paling efisien karena sumber tenaganya dari PLTA.
Bagaimana dengan ANTM yang ketergantungan pada minyaknya lebih tinggi dan
otomatis mempunyai biaya produksi yang lebih tinggi?
 
Bagaimana pendapat teman2?
 
 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Tasrul Tanar]

Yup, dari chart saya juga ada indikasi demikian, namun maaf, hanya untuk 
internal, di  harga berapa harus diambil dan berapa target terdekatnya.


--- On Tue, 7/29/08, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 12:37 PM









Relax.., ELTY bentar lagi juga naik.
 JsxTrader 




- Original Message 
From: Frendy 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 21:50:13
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR


hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing... ..
2007 HELL INVESTING... .am I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ? 
say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL. ...
ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
 
Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
 
compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
 
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: Rei 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?




You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead  




- Original Message 
From: Elaine Sui 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?




Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus. Mana bisa 
semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa 
jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha ha..

Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.

Elaine


2008/7/29 Rei 

Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"



 wrote:
>
> NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> Hehehe
>
> compor.com
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 
wrote:
> >
> > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> >
> > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> >
> > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> >
> > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> >
> > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
ganti
> > vertu hihihihihihihi
> >
>



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Tasrul Tanar]

Yup, dari chart saya juga ada indikasi demikian, namun maaf, hanya untuk 
internal, di  harga berapa harus diambil dan berapa target terdekatnya.


--- On Tue, 7/29/08, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 12:37 PM









Relax.., ELTY bentar lagi juga naik.
 JsxTrader 




- Original Message 
From: Frendy 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 21:50:13
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR


hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing... ..
2007 HELL INVESTING... .am I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ? 
say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL. ...
ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
 
Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
 
compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
 
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: Rei 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?




You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead  




- Original Message 
From: Elaine Sui 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?




Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus. Mana bisa 
semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa 
jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha ha..

Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.

Elaine


2008/7/29 Rei 

Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"



 wrote:
>
> NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> Hehehe
>
> compor.com
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 
wrote:
> >
> > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> >
> > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> >
> > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> >
> > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> >
> > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
ganti
> > vertu hihihihihihihi
> >
>



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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120

[icchanks]

CUT LOST kayak yang beli INCO di 9000an dan ANTM di 5000an!!!

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, iwanibe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sorry, agak diluar jalur.
> Saya sih senang oil turun lagi, pertamax bisa turun.
> 
> Cuma, gigit jari aja company yg beberapa waktu lalu beli minyak di
130 an,
> dan di hedge.
> waktu minyak turun ke 70 an, gak bisa apa-apa dong.
> Kalau kejadiannya kaya gitu, apa yg harus dilakukan oleh si company ybs.
> 
> 
> On 7/29/08, jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >*Oil prices above 120 dollars "abnormal," OPEC president says*
> >
> > Jul 29, 2008, 9:17 GMT
> >
> > Jakarta - Crude oil prices above 120 dollars a barrel are
'abnormal' but
> > they could fall to around *78 *dollars under the right
circumstances, the
> > president of OPEC said Tuesday.
> >
> > 'If the dollar continues to strengthen and the political situation
> > improves, then the long-term prices will be about *78 *dollars,'
Chakib
> > Khelil said while on a visit to Indonesia.
> >
> > He added that the market was well-supplied with oil, refuting
arguments
> > that there is a world shortage of the commodity and members of the
> > Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) should
increase
> > production.
> >
> > 'There's a balance in the market,' Khelil said. 'I would say [oil]
stocks
> > are at a good level, and there hasn't been any disruption in demand.'
> >
> > He added that he did not believe OPEC members should cut
production if oil
> > prices continued to fall.
> >
> > During his visit, Khelil also urged Indonesia to remain a member
of the
> > cartel even though it had seen its oil production fall and has
become an oil
> > importer.
> >
> > Indonesian Energy Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said Indonesia
would quit
> > OPEC after December 31.
> >
> > SIP JM:  Kira-kira sama dengan prediksi saya bahwa OIL akan ke
*$70-80 *.
> > Jangan-jangan Pak Khelil ini baca postingan saya di
OB.hs..hs..hs..LOL.
> >
> > Lalu bagaimana dengan tebakan saya:
> >
> > *BUMI 4500, AALI 18000, ANTAM 2500  ...he..he..*
> >
> > Kalo sudah sampe akan *SIDEWAY* dengan *median* angka-angka tersebut.
> >
> > Makanya kalo beli ANTM di 2000, 500 point dah ditangan. Kalo beli
di 1500,
> > 1000 points bakal masuk kantong. Nah kalo mau BUMI beli di
3000-4000, at
> > least 500-1500 points dah dapet.
> >
> > Bukan ngajak beli atau jual saham lho.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120

[iwanibe]

Sorry, agak diluar jalur.
Saya sih senang oil turun lagi, pertamax bisa turun.

Cuma, gigit jari aja company yg beberapa waktu lalu beli minyak di 130 an,
dan di hedge.
waktu minyak turun ke 70 an, gak bisa apa-apa dong.
Kalau kejadiannya kaya gitu, apa yg harus dilakukan oleh si company ybs.


On 7/29/08, jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>*Oil prices above 120 dollars "abnormal," OPEC president says*
>
> Jul 29, 2008, 9:17 GMT
>
> Jakarta - Crude oil prices above 120 dollars a barrel are 'abnormal' but
> they could fall to around *78 *dollars under the right circumstances, the
> president of OPEC said Tuesday.
>
> 'If the dollar continues to strengthen and the political situation
> improves, then the long-term prices will be about *78 *dollars,' Chakib
> Khelil said while on a visit to Indonesia.
>
> He added that the market was well-supplied with oil, refuting arguments
> that there is a world shortage of the commodity and members of the
> Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) should increase
> production.
>
> 'There's a balance in the market,' Khelil said. 'I would say [oil] stocks
> are at a good level, and there hasn't been any disruption in demand.'
>
> He added that he did not believe OPEC members should cut production if oil
> prices continued to fall.
>
> During his visit, Khelil also urged Indonesia to remain a member of the
> cartel even though it had seen its oil production fall and has become an oil
> importer.
>
> Indonesian Energy Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said Indonesia would quit
> OPEC after December 31.
>
> SIP JM:  Kira-kira sama dengan prediksi saya bahwa OIL akan ke *$70-80 *.
> Jangan-jangan Pak Khelil ini baca postingan saya di OB.hs..hs..hs..LOL.
>
> Lalu bagaimana dengan tebakan saya:
>
> *BUMI 4500, AALI 18000, ANTAM 2500  ...he..he..*
>
> Kalo sudah sampe akan *SIDEWAY* dengan *median* angka-angka tersebut.
>
> Makanya kalo beli ANTM di 2000, 500 point dah ditangan. Kalo beli di 1500,
> 1000 points bakal masuk kantong. Nah kalo mau BUMI beli di 3000-4000, at
> least 500-1500 points dah dapet.
>
> Bukan ngajak beli atau jual saham lho.
>
>
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: [meta-noia] Re: MyLRI DOWJ nanti malam

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India-
   AP
   - July Consumer Confidence Rises From 16-year
Low-
   Reuters
   - Oil Hits 7-week Low on Demand Worries, Dollar
Gain-
   AP


2008/7/29 JH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Kalau kemarin malam DOWJ koleps..mudah-mudahan malam ini DOWJ sudah
> siuman...
> tapi berhubung IHSG besok (30/06/2008) hunimun, maka pergerakan Dowj hari
> ini abaikan saja
> tunggu saja warna warni hari rabu malam..supaya kamis tradingnya mantap..
>
> Untuk yang sudah ambil cuti, Happy long weekend..CU on monday..
>
> rgrds,
>
> JH
>
> - Original Message 
> From: JH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: MyLRI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cenayank <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Meta Noia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:14:54 PM
> Subject: MyLRI DOWJ nanti malam
>
> snif..snif.. .
> dr baunya sih sepertinya nanti malam (today) DOWJ koleps...
> mungkin gak ...??
>
> harapharapcemas. com
> mudah-mudahan tipis kalaupun turun..
>
> salam,
>
> Juliantika H
>
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] OIL 120 ?

[TH]

Oil falls to 12-week low on demand
worries
Reuters UK, UK - 9 minutes ago
OPEC President *Chakib Khelil* said on Tuesday oil could fall further to $70
to $80 a barrel in the long term but added he did not think the producer
group *...*

Re: [obrolan-bandar] 40% INCO Dibeli Linkin Park?

[Vincent Chase]

gak bener Pak,yg bener mo inco lg diperebutkan  oleh jay Z,eminem dan 50 cents, 
lawyernya Dr Dre

simon bolenang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pusing2, 
mendingan beli LTLS tuh mau ke 2000

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Kucing Tua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Kucing Tua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] 40% INCO Dibeli Linkin Park?
To: "obrolan bandar" 
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 1:02 AM

   rekan-rekan, ada berita 40% inco dibeli linkin park? 
apaan maksudnya?

sumbernya disini

di bagian kanan, banyak yang memberikan pesan demikian, kira-kira apa 
maksudnya? mohon pencerahan. kebetulan saya punya inco yang lagi nyangkut

  
 
   


 
   

   

[obrolan-bandar] TRUB...

[kennnsss]

For Pak DE, JSX Trader n Bung Ocoy

Jika dilihat dgn menggunakan Freq Anal nya Pak DE, TRUB apakah lagi 
distribusi atau akumulasi ?

Bagaimana Potensi saham TRUB secara fundamental n valuasi ?

Mohon Pencerahan utk Newbiebanget ... Thx

Re: [obrolan-bandar] VICTORY Formation (2278)

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Hahaha... tuh khan.
Kaco deh jam segini mah. Pada kambuh

2008/7/29 Andi Wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Kok malah mirip G-String Mbah ?
>
> Kabu
>
> --- On Wed, 30/7/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] VICTORY Formation (2278)
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, 30 July, 2008, 12:27 AM
>
> VICTORY Formation
>
> Embah kirim update grafik IHSG
>
> http://www.trader20 00.com/piwihsg. png
>
> Terlihat terbentuknya formasi V atau Victory...
>
> Mudah mudahan dengan terbentuknya formasi Victory ini,
> market akan lebih BERMURAH HATI pada investor dan trader...

Re: [obrolan-bandar] VICTORY Formation (2278)

[Andi Wahyudi]

Miss V(ictory) udah terbentuk ya Mbah?

Wah ini malah ngawur kaudrat

--- On Wed, 30/7/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] VICTORY Formation (2278)
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 30 July, 2008, 12:32 AM











2008/7/29 jsx_consultant :

> VICTORY Formation

>

> Embah kirim update grafik IHSG

>

> http://www.trader20 00.com/piwihsg. png

>

> Terlihat terbentuknya formasi V atau Victory...

>

> Mudah mudahan dengan terbentuknya formasi Victory ini,

> market akan lebih BERMURAH HATI pada investor dan trader...



Waduh Embah sampe bela2in begadang buat bikinan V Chart.



Atau sambil chatting sama temen2 OB?

Klo gak, mending kagak ikutan.

Malem2 gini, obrolannya suka agak2 ngawur ... ck ck ck


  




 
















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Re: [obrolan-bandar] VICTORY Formation (2278)

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

2008/7/29 jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> VICTORY Formation
>
> Embah kirim update grafik IHSG
>
> http://www.trader2000.com/piwihsg.png
>
> Terlihat terbentuknya formasi V atau Victory...
>
> Mudah mudahan dengan terbentuknya formasi Victory ini,
> market akan lebih BERMURAH HATI pada investor dan trader...

Waduh Embah sampe bela2in begadang buat bikinan V Chart.

Atau sambil chatting sama temen2 OB?
Klo gak, mending kagak ikutan.
Malem2 gini, obrolannya suka agak2 ngawur ... ck ck ck

Re: [obrolan-bandar] VICTORY Formation (2278)

[Andi Wahyudi]

Kok malah mirip G-String Mbah ?

Kabu

--- On Wed, 30/7/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] VICTORY Formation (2278)
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 30 July, 2008, 12:27 AM











VICTORY Formation



Embah kirim update grafik IHSG



http://www.trader20 00.com/piwihsg. png



Terlihat terbentuknya formasi V atau Victory...



Mudah mudahan dengan terbentuknya formasi Victory ini,

market akan lebih BERMURAH HATI pada investor dan trader...




  




 
















Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com 

[obrolan-bandar] VICTORY Formation (2278)

[jsx_consultant]

VICTORY Formation


Embah kirim update grafik IHSG

http://www.trader2000.com/piwihsg.png

Terlihat terbentuknya formasi V atau Victory...

Mudah mudahan dengan terbentuknya formasi Victory ini,
market akan lebih BERMURAH HATI pada investor dan trader...

Bls: [obrolan-bandar] bikin room di YM?

[Eko Yudianto]

Sekedar usul Pak Rully,
bagaimana kalo pakai skype, kayanya lebih ok dan lebih gampang dibandingkan 
dengan YM
regards,
eyudi88



- Pesan Asli 
Dari: Rully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Senin, 28 Juli, 2008 17:29:40
Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] bikin room di YM?


Mbah, minta maap, thread ini nggak nyambung sama dunia saham, tapi sangat 
berhubungan dengan para pelaku di dunia saham, jadi mohon ijin Mbah untuk 
dilanjutkan diskusinya.. .
 
Sebenarnya, fasilitas keamanan yang diberikan oleh IRC juga sangat baik. ID 
atau nick name seseorang di dalnet, bisa didaftarkan ke Nick Server dengan cara 
mengirimkan perintah /nickserv register password alamat_email. Perintah ini 
harus dikirimkan setelah seseorang masuk (terkoneksi) server dalnet.
 
Setelah itu, Nick Server akan mengirimkan email konfirmasi ke alamat email yang 
tadi digunakan untuk registrasi. Silahkan di follow up, perintah di email 
nickserv tersebut untuk menyelesaikan proses registrasinya.
 
Supaya nickname kita nggak bisa digunakan oleh orang lain, kirim perintah: 
/nickserv set enforce on
 
btw, saya sedang melakukan riset di internet untuk mencari tahu apakah chat 
room di YM bisa mengakomodasi kebutuhan moderasi, kick user, ban user, batas 
jumlah user, dan kemudahan setup-nya (chat room YM terbatas 50, dan conference 
repot, harus invite. lebih repot lagi kalo putus, harus invite lagi)
 
kalau YM lebih baik daripada IRC, mari kita ramai ramai pindah ke YM. but as 
far as i know, IRC lebih efektif untuk konferensi yang terkendali dan luas..
 
Terima kasih untuk masukannya.
 
Salam,
Rully
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: abdulrahim abdulrahim 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] bikin room di YM?

Iya betul. ID di YM gak terlalu mudah digonta ganti.
Secara preferensi, saya jg lebih suka YM daripada IRC.
Mungkin pak Rully bentar lagi buat room di YM

2008/7/28 Maddy Vain <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>:
> Aktivitas room di IRC sudah berjalan beberapa hari dan saya rasa cukup bagus
> untuk mengurangi banyaknya email di OB yang berisikan pertanyaan atau
> posting yang lebih cocok diutarakan di room chatting.
> Kalau ada room di YM lebih bagus lagi, supaya tidak ada JSX Consultant palsu
> atau yg lain (seperti tadi siang) yang mudah dipalsukan di IRC.
>
> --- On Mon, 7/28/08, PyRiEL PyRiEL  wrote:
>
> From: PyRiEL PyRiEL 
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] bikin room di YM
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 9:45 AM
>
> percuma...
> saya tidak bisa akses chat room YM maupun IRC di kantor...
>
>
> On 7/28/08, imam wahyudi  wrote:
>>
>> guys..bikin room chat di YM aja biar info langsung update gmana? mohon
>> tanggapan rekan2..
>>
>> salam..
>>
>> trader bingung
 


  
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[obrolan-bandar] Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120

[jos_martino]

Oil prices above 120 dollars "abnormal," OPEC president says

Jul 29, 2008, 9:17 GMT

Jakarta - Crude oil prices above 120 dollars a barrel are 'abnormal' but
they could fall to around 78 dollars under the right circumstances, the
president of OPEC said Tuesday.

'If the dollar continues to strengthen and the political situation
improves, then the long-term prices will be about 78 dollars,' Chakib
Khelil said while on a visit to Indonesia.

He added that the market was well-supplied with oil, refuting arguments
that there is a world shortage of the commodity and members of the
Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) should increase
production.

'There's a balance in the market,' Khelil said. 'I would say [oil]
stocks are at a good level, and there hasn't been any disruption in
demand.'

He added that he did not believe OPEC members should cut production if
oil prices continued to fall.

During his visit, Khelil also urged Indonesia to remain a member of the
cartel even though it had seen its oil production fall and has become an
oil importer.

Indonesian Energy Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said Indonesia would quit
OPEC after December 31.

SIP JM:  Kira-kira sama dengan prediksi saya bahwa OIL akan ke $70-80 .
Jangan-jangan Pak Khelil ini baca postingan saya di
OB.hs..hs..hs..LOL.

Lalu bagaimana dengan tebakan saya:

BUMI 4500, AALI 18000, ANTAM 2500  ...he..he..

Kalo sudah sampe akan SIDEWAY dengan median angka-angka tersebut.

Makanya kalo beli ANTM di 2000, 500 point dah ditangan. Kalo beli di
1500, 1000 points bakal masuk kantong. Nah kalo mau BUMI beli di
3000-4000, at least 500-1500 points dah dapet.

Bukan ngajak beli atau jual saham lho.

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[JsxTrader]

Relax.., ELTY bentar lagi juga naik.
 JsxTrader



- Original Message 
From: Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 21:50:13
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR


hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing.
2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ? 
say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
 
Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
 
compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
 
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Rei 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead  



- Original Message 
From: Elaine Sui 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?


Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus. Mana bisa 
semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa 
jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha ha..

Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.

Elaine


2008/7/29 Rei 

Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
way to goc'mon Elaine, get busy!


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"

 wrote:
>
> NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> Hehehe...
>
> compor.com
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 
wrote:
> >
> > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> >
> > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> >
> > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> >
> > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> >
> > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
ganti
> > vertu hihihihihihihi
> >
>



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Paulus Tangke Allo]

kalau gak salah, beberapa waktu yang lalu, Pak Alfatih pernah post
mengenai historical data JSX, intinya ada rentang waktu tertentu
dimana buy and hold cocok utk diterapkan namun ada juga rentang waktu
dimana buy and hold justru bikin rugi (lebih pas utk trading).

tahun ini kalau tidak salah rentang waktu yg cocok utk trading, di
tahun2 ke depan, bukan tidak mungkin sejarah terulang kembali dimana
terdapat rentang waktu yang pas utk menerapkan buy and hold.


--pta


On 7/29/08, Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
> I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing.
> 2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
> how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
> investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
> from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
> or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ?
> say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
> ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
> ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
>
> Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
>
> compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ?
> my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
> invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...

Re: [obrolan-bandar] re :Just Refresh ....TOll Roads (2) .... by yu

[riil_investor]

Bener bung James, namun knp ko JSMR anteng2 aza ya? Kl lihat trx nya emang naik 
dr volumenya! Asing buy n sell! Anyway, sy ko ngga peduli urusan asing 
buy/sell? Asing ngga bisa dipercaya dah! Lihat kelakuan mrk di beberapa 
kejadian lalu? PGAS, BUMI dll. Buat sy JSMR buat anak cucu n sebagian unt cuan 
cuan short term lah! Yakin naik dah minggu ini! Amin!
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-Original Message-
From: James Liem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:29 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] re :Just Refresh TOll Roads (2)  by yu


schedule for analyst meeting dgn ybs hari jumat ini bila tdk ada perubahan 
. , yg naik kapal ini harus siap2 u/ long journey(khusus penumpang dewasa 
yg sdh siap menghadapi apapun resikonya), jadi perbekalan/stocknya mesti bener2 
memadai biar nggak berhenti di tengah jalan .. dari sudut pandang kita (bisa 
salah) ... yg satu ini memiliki potensi& dasar yg bagus u/ dibawa�berlayar jauh 
(harganya)�are u ready ??? 
�
Bung riil investor  nampaknya anda jeli juga melihat manuver2nya yg terjadi 
 just stay cool.. 
�
Discl On ... 
�
Regards
�
"Semuanya akan Indah tepat pada waktu NYA"


--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Jessya Martina Jessya Martina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Jessya Martina Jessya Martina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just Refresh TOll Roads (2)  by yu
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 8:43 PM






SETUJU RP 1.700 target pertama


2008/7/27, riil_investor@ yahoo.com : 





Emang bener bung James! Merem aja belinya! Bandar nya lg mainin harga agar dpt 
murah! Buangnya pakai asing (AK) n belinya pakai lokal (SP). Lihat aja tuh si 
lokal ngumpulin terus! Pastinya ada maksud maksud lain dah! Ngumpulinnya jg 
significant banget! So? Buy aja dong bung James? Akur dah! 
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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:25:30 -0700 (PDT)
To: ; 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Just Refresh TOll Roads (2)  by yu








masih ingatkah ...??? Tgl 13 Jully 2008�posting di milist �lvl harga di 
1090 - 1120 ...(vol masih relativ kecil)
�
un told story  speed test .. 1300 .. broom .. broom ... broommm .. �TP 
1700
�
Discl on !!!
�
Regards
�
"Semuanya akan indah tepat pada waktu NYA"


 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] metal turun lagi...

[Frendy]

hmmyg news cuan 135 % itu berita kapan ya pak ?
wew

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dean Earwicker 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:47 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] metal turun lagi...



  "Sptnya gak usah dijawab. Udah jelas pasti nyungsebh", kata Mr. Market

  Nyungseb = ekspektasi pasar.

  Nah, KALAU ternyata penurunan ANTM ternyata nggak sedalam persepsi pasar, 
bisa jadi ANTM malah naik. Persepsi pasar menganggap manajemen ANTM mampu 
bertahan dalam kondisi yang tidak menguntungkan. Nah loh.

  Jadi tunggu aja laporan semester I, mudahan tidak seburuk yang kita duga.


  Regards,
  DE


  Pada 29 Juli 2008 22:21, IDX Analyst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

Terutama untuk nickel, sudah di US$8/lb. Untuk INCO realisasinya 75% dari 
harga LME, berarti cuma dapat US$6/lb. Dengan peningkatan harga minyak, biaya 
produksi diperkirakan meningkat ke kisaran US$4.5-5.0/lb. Berarti marginnya 
cuma US$1-1.5/lb. Dikurangi lagi dengan biaya admin dll, maka bisa jadi cuma 
impas doang dengan harga nickel sekarang. Mungkin untuk Q2 ini INCO masih ada 
laba walaupun sangat jauh lebih kecil dibandingkan tahun lalu. Tapi dengan tren 
penurunan harga nickel ini ada kemungkinan Q3 malah mengalami kerugian.

Ini baru INCO yang katanya paling efisien karena sumber tenaganya dari 
PLTA. Bagaimana dengan ANTM yang ketergantungan pada minyaknya lebih tinggi dan 
otomatis mempunyai biaya produksi yang lebih tinggi?

Bagaimana pendapat teman2?



   

[obrolan-bandar] Fw: [bei-investorclub-jkt] OOT: Electricity Problem

[SbudianaY]

--Original Message--
From: SbudianaC
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Obrolan Bandar
ReplyTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [bei-investorclub-jkt] OOT: Electricity Problem
Sent: Jul 29, 2008 22:10

Subject: Electricity Problem



Low Electric Rates
Drive Producers
To Export Market

By YAYU YUNIAR
July 29, 2008; Page A11

JAKARTA -- Indonesia is the world's largest producer of thermal coal, which
is used to generate one-third of the nation's electricity. So why are
factories, businesses and ordinary citizens around this sprawling capital
city facing chronic blackouts?

The answer: Indonesian coal producers would rather export at a higher price
than sell locally to PLN, the state-owned electricity utility. That has
left PLN with a coal deficit in recent months, forcing it to turn the power
off in sections of Jakarta for hours each day.

In a desperate move to reduce power usage, the government is forcing
factories in industrial zones around Jakarta to shut for two days between
Monday and Friday and move those working days to the weekend. And it is
trying through television advertising campaigns to persuade consumers to
switch off lights and minimize power consumption.

The troubles are one example of how attempts by governments in many parts
of the developing world to control prices for consumers can lead to
problems. In Indonesia, the government sets low rates for electricity that
don't reflect its real cost. That has contributed to years of
underinvestment in power infrastructure. As the international market price
for commodities like coal rises, Indonesian producers can often get a
better price by exporting than by selling to their home market.

The power issue is hurting Indonesia's attractiveness as an investment
site. More than 400 Japanese companies -- making everything from food to
textiles -- jointly issued a formal complaint to the government this month
about the frequent cuts to power supply and threatened to pull out unless
the problems are resolved quickly.

The power shortages are "sending negative signals and discouraging
investment," said Adam Sack, Indonesia head of the International Finance
Corporation, the corporate investment arm of the World Bank.

Other Asian countries are also facing electricity shortages caused by
rising coal prices, which have more than doubled in the past year. China is
rationing electricity during the peak-usage summer season. High coal prices
have already forced many small power producers there out of business,
exacerbating supply shortages.

The coal squeeze reflects competition among Asia's still-expanding
economies for resources to meet their power needs. In India, Tata Power Co.
is investing $4 billion to develop one of the world's largest coal-fired
power plants by 2012. To ensure coal supplies for the plant, Tata last year
agreed to pay $1.1 billion for a 30% stake in two large Indonesian coal
mines, further draining supply for domestic Indonesian users.

Indonesia, Southeast Asia's largest economy, has abundant resources of
commodities including natural gas, palm oil and nickel. Balancing exports
of these commodities to hungry consumers in China and India with
Indonesia's domestic needs has proved tricky. The economy is forecast to
expand 6% this year, largely because of the commodity exports. Yet the
power shortages may hurt growth.

Indonesia suffers from years of slow investment in new power plants and
power transmission lines. Since the 1997-98 Asian financial crises -- which
led to the collapse of a number of joint-venture independent power projects
-- foreign investors have shunned Indonesia's electricity-generating
sector. One problem is that investors can't be sure the government will set
the conditions enabling them to make a return.

"Indonesian decision making is so slow and unclear," said Hongjoo Hahm, a
specialist on infrastructure with the World Bank in Jakarta.

With the country's main Java-Bali grid heavily overloaded, Jakarta
introduced a plan in 2006 to quickly build coal-fired plants with a
capacity of 10,000 megawatts. It lined up Chinese state-owned companies to
participate. These projects were supposed to come on line by 2010, but
construction has been delayed becaus

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[SbudianaY]

Bukannya justru lg turun kesempatan belanja dan yg nyangkut biarkan aja dulu, 
kan baru Floating Loss blm Total Loss, Elty sy buy 345 TP di 390, Unsp buy 
sampe lowest 1250 TP 1320-1400, Tlkm sampe the lowest sy punya di 6750 TP mulai 
7500-8000, Intp dari 5500 sampe the lowest 5200, TP 5750-5850, Inco buy 4000 TP 
4400 etc n yg nyangkut jg segudang, biar aja dulu tinggal tunggu naik kok
gitu aja kok repot he5x.


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From: "icchanks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:12:26 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR


Kayaknya sebagian besar saham nyungsep kok,jadi you are not alone,
kecuali para suhu kyk Mbah, Bung Rei, DE, El pasti masih bisa nyetak
gain,tp buat ara newbie yah sabar-sabar deh nunggu masa bullish datang
lagi terus out aja dari market bila portofolionya dah IJO tp jangan
tiap hari liat trading bisa ZtRESS...(hanya sekedar saran)

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, just unfortunate for you...some of my investments have given
megreat results...
> Saham buat invest kan tidak cuma Antm & Elty pak...
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:50:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
BANKRUPT INVESTOR
> 
> 
> hehe...I don't trade as wellbut�INVEST ?
> I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing... ..
> 2007 HELL INVESTING... .am I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
> how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
> investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
> from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
> or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ? 
> say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL. ...
> ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
> ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
> �
> Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK�FUNDAMENTAL ?
> �
> compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
> my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
> invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
> �
> �
> �
> - Original Message - 
> From: Rei 
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
> 
> You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead  
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Elaine Sui 
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
> 
> 
> Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi
terus. Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right?
hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena
target kena. ha ha ha ha..
> 
> Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> 2008/7/29 Rei 
> 
> Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
> target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
> way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"
> 
>  wrote:
> >
> > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> > Hehehe...
> >
> > compor.com
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> > >
> > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> > >
> > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> > >
> > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> > >
> > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
> ganti
> > > vertu hihihihihihihi
> > >
> >
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM BULL? Bullish Engulfing has occured

[IDX Analyst]

kalo nickel di US$8/lb bisa2 cuma impas doang mas, soalnya kalau INCO
realisasi harganya cuma 75% dari LME atau US$6/lb sedangkan biaya
produksinya udah 4.5-5/lb, kalau dikurangilagi dengan biaya admin dll
jadinya impas. Kalo nikel LME jatuh lagi di bawah 8 bisa jadi rugi deh..
ancur.. target harga? gak mau ngira2 deh kalo perusahaan udah rugi.. bisa
aja di bawah 1000 deh INCo. Apalagi ANTM.. divisi nikelnya mungkin udah
ancur lebur. Beruntung masih ada tambang emas yang harganya lagi tinggi
walaupun cuma sebagian kecil dari kontribusi...

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:40 AM, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> "Seph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > See the cart.
> >
> > CMIIW.
> >
> >
> > Thx
> >
> Nikel turun...LAGI
> kemungkinan hanya teknikal rebound aja...
> ANTM 1500-2000 is SO SURE
> INCO 3500 - 4000
>
> walau bisa aja melanjutkan Teknikal reboundnya..
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: OIL 120 ?

[kspm_rheza]

yaNg paling bruntung yang nyangkuT..hehe
bsk bumi OPeN lagsUng pda sell-off y..

synk bursa lIbur y..harusNy finance naik lagi neh..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "icchanks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Heheh, beruntunglah yang pegang komoditas...
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww"
>  wrote:
> >
> > aneh tapi nyata
> > sayang besok BEI libur..
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Harga Nickel

[IDX Analyst]

mimpi kali yee..

2008/7/11 vale sutomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Udah deh tubruk saja.
> INCO & ANTM -> "Persepsi"nya murah dan memang "bukan murahan"
> PER tidak sampai 12.
>
> Potensial UP rumornya
> INCO 7000
> ANTM 4500
>
> Atau kita buat ANTM = BUMI?
> bercanda siapa tahu kejadian.
>
>
> Pada tanggal 11/07/08, boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>>
>>   Masa sih beda antara LME dgn bloomberg?
>> Lha kan Bloomberg ambil data-nya dari LME.
>>
>> Mungkin beda yg dimaksud adalah perbedaan dalam kurs/satuan unit, grade,
>> atau future (3months, dll) dengan Cash/Spot.
>>
>> Biasanya harga nickel yg saya lihat di Bloomberg adalah yg future 3month,
>> dalam kurs USD/ton.
>> ticker-nya di bloomberg:  *LMNIDS03 Cmdty*
>> and kalau ingin lihat chart-nya (Candlestick) tinggal tambahkan GPC :  
>> *LMNIDS03
>> Cmdty GPC*
>>
>> kalau yg Spot, tickernya *LMNIDY Cmdty*
>>
>> Salam,
>>
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bob_mailmachine"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Para ahli di OB dimana ya dapat tahu harga nickel yang selalu update..
>> > sebab saya lihat di LME kok selalu beda ya dengan di BLOOMBERG..
>> > Mohon Pencerahannya.. Thk ...
>> >
>>
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] metal turun lagi...

[IDX Analyst]

Terutama untuk nickel, sudah di US$8/lb. Untuk INCO realisasinya 75% dari
harga LME, berarti cuma dapat US$6/lb. Dengan peningkatan harga minyak,
biaya produksi diperkirakan meningkat ke kisaran US$4.5-5.0/lb. Berarti
marginnya cuma US$1-1.5/lb. Dikurangi lagi dengan biaya admin dll, maka bisa
jadi cuma impas doang dengan harga nickel sekarang. Mungkin untuk Q2 ini
INCO masih ada laba walaupun sangat jauh lebih kecil dibandingkan tahun
lalu. Tapi dengan tren penurunan harga nickel ini ada kemungkinan Q3 malah
mengalami kerugian.

Ini baru INCO yang katanya paling efisien karena sumber tenaganya dari PLTA.
Bagaimana dengan ANTM yang ketergantungan pada minyaknya lebih tinggi dan
otomatis mempunyai biaya produksi yang lebih tinggi?

Bagaimana pendapat teman2?

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[I Made Pande Dwiana Putra]

calm down pak...i've lost quite a chunk of my money myself(a big chunk, 
that is..)
rage isn't gonna solve anything...neither is patience alone..

we've got to have patience and wit..let's learn from our mistakes and move on..
that's what i've been telling myself over and over again..peace..

PS:look at the bright side, oil is 121/b right now..115 is just an inch away..
maybe there's still hope for ELTY..

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 8:50 AM














hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST 
?
I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year 
investing... ..
2007 HELL INVESTING... .am I STUPID INVESTOR ? 
hahahaha
how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice 
plz
investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? 
really ?
from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 
years ?
or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT 
in next 5 years ? 
say a company with a GOOD 
FUNDAMENTAL. ...
ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD 
?
ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
 
Which ONE that have a F*CK & 
S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
 
compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE 
money if we
invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY 
ANTM...
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rei 
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 
PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY 
  nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
  

  
  
  You're 
  right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead  
  

  

  - 
  Original Message 
From: Elaine Sui 
To: 
  obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: 
  Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY 
  nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?


  
  
  Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi 
  terus. Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa 
  perlu Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha 
  ha ha..

Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah 
  sekali.

Elaine


  2008/7/29 Rei 

  Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus 
sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! 
Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
way to go...c'mon Elaine, get 
busy!


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
com, "Petualang Saham"



 wrote:
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> 
NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> Elaine klo NYANGKUT 
sukanya marah2 lho.
> Hehehe...
>
> compor.com
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
com, "conx_2003" 
wrote:
> >
> > 
klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> 
>
> > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> >
> > 
bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> >
> > 
hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > kali ini jual apaan 
yeh
> >
> > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony 
ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
ganti
> > vertu hihihihihihihi
> 
>
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: need answer

[toniy76]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Meizal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ikut nimbrung ya pak.
> 
> Kalau bapak tujuan investasi lebih untuk spekulasi (risk taker ),
instrument di future mungkin cocok untuk bapak, tapi kalau tipe bapak
risk moderat,sebaik nya cari perusahaan yang di belakang nya ada title
sekuritas nya ( perusahaan sekuritas ,bukan perusahaan future )
> 
> karna future dan sekuritas ( securities ) itu beda pak; 
> 
> kalau bapak mau berinvestasi di produk turunan saham( yang mana risk
reward nya lebih tinggi dari saham langsung ( equity )),pilihan nya
perusahaan futures,disana yang di perdagangkan nya bukan saham
langsung ( asset ) tapi kontrak nya -makan nya disebut produk turunan
saham- ;) ( Co:Hanseng,kospi,nikkei),bursanya bukan BEJ,tapi BBJ (
bursa Berjangka Jakarta ),nanti mekanisme nya kira2 seperti ini
pak...account bapak akan didongkrak nilai nya dengan yang nama nya
leverage (jadi dengan modal US$ 10.000 seolah2 bapak berinvestasi US
$100.000 ) --> leverage ini yang bikin banyak orang kapok berinvestasi
di futures...risk managment nya kudu jago banget pak untuk bisa
survive di dunia ini..silahkan coba diskusikan lagi dengan marketing
yang menawarkan produk ini ke bapak agar jelas aturan main nya
> 
> Kalau disaham langsung ( Equity ),bapak harus buka account di
perusahaan sekuritas,dan yang bapak jual dan beli itu asset karna
bapak beli perusahaan nya langsung,co: TLKM,Bumi dsb.karna sifat
nya yang asset maka tingkat risikonya masih dibawah
future...sekuritas selain menjual saham langsung( equity ) juga
menjual Obligasi, produk pasar uang dan reksadana.jadi kalo bapak
mau coba memperkecil risiko dengan diversivikasi asset...sekuritas
lebih cocok.
> 
> Semua nya sih balik lagi ke preferensi risiko bapak, kalau boleh
saran coba kenalin dulu tujuan&tingkat resiko yang bisa bapak tolelir
sebelum memutuskan investasi seperti apa yang mau dipilih...biar gak
ngedumel belakangan hehehehehe
> 
> Maaf kalo ada yang kurang tepat  mungkin rekan2 ada yang punya
masukan lain??
> 
>  -- good luck ---
> 
> regrad's
> 
>  trimspa meirizal, btw kalo suggest dari bpk perusahaan mana yg
recomended dan siapa yg bisa sy hubungi, trims buat follow up
messagenya ..

regards   

[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] metal turun lagi...

[Dean Earwicker]

"Sptnya gak usah dijawab. Udah jelas pasti nyungsebh", kata Mr. Market

Nyungseb = ekspektasi pasar.

Nah, KALAU ternyata penurunan ANTM ternyata *nggak sedalam* persepsi pasar,
bisa jadi ANTM malah naik. Persepsi pasar menganggap manajemen ANTM mampu
bertahan dalam kondisi yang tidak menguntungkan. Nah loh.

Jadi tunggu aja laporan semester I, mudahan tidak seburuk yang kita duga.


Regards,
DE

Pada 29 Juli 2008 22:21, IDX Analyst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

>  Terutama untuk nickel, sudah di US$8/lb. Untuk INCO realisasinya 75% dari
> harga LME, berarti cuma dapat US$6/lb. Dengan peningkatan harga minyak,
> biaya produksi diperkirakan meningkat ke kisaran US$4.5-5.0/lb. Berarti
> marginnya cuma US$1-1.5/lb. Dikurangi lagi dengan biaya admin dll, maka bisa
> jadi cuma impas doang dengan harga nickel sekarang. Mungkin untuk Q2 ini
> INCO masih ada laba walaupun sangat jauh lebih kecil dibandingkan tahun
> lalu. Tapi dengan tren penurunan harga nickel ini ada kemungkinan Q3 malah
> mengalami kerugian.
>
> Ini baru INCO yang katanya paling efisien karena sumber tenaganya dari
> PLTA. Bagaimana dengan ANTM yang ketergantungan pada minyaknya lebih tinggi
> dan otomatis mempunyai biaya produksi yang lebih tinggi?
>
> Bagaimana pendapat teman2?
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Frendy]

hahaahhayou think that i said the truth ?
nopei think so many members here told a BIG LIE about themselves...
kekekekeke..don't take it personally.just make if FUN
we need some FUN here

  - Original Message - 
  From: Milis 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:24 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR



  i think you should quit saham.. ntar bisa gila om..

  losing sanity make you bankrupt, bankrupt make you insane as well.. 
  wakakaka..

  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Frendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  >
  > I did it though
  > BUT...the MONEY I LOST in ELTYI WILL WAIT till I GET IT 
  BACK !!...
  > so what huh ?? i said F*CK ELTY...so what ? prove it that it is 
  GOOD... BUY YOUR ELTY till 600...IF YOU CAN
  > this is a democracy countryso wake up dude
  > hell yeahno one can prevent anyone expressing their 
  opinion...HERE...except Mbah...
  > sorry Mbah...you're the bozzhehehe.
  > 
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: icchanks 
  > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:55 PM
  > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? 
  BANKRUPT INVESTOR
  > 
  > 
  > So invest ur money in bank only...
  > 
  > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Frendy" 
  > wrote:
  > >
  > > hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
  > > I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing.
  > > 2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
  > > how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
  > > investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
  > > from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
  > > or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 
  years ? 
  > > say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
  > > ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
  > > ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
  > > 
  > > Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
  > > 
  > > compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
  > > my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
  > > invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > - Original Message - 
  > > From: Rei 
  > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  > > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
  > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest 
  instead 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > - Original Message 
  > > From: Elaine Sui 
  > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  > > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
  > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi
  > terus. Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right?
  > hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang 
  karena
  > target kena. ha ha ha ha..
  > > 
  > > Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.
  > > 
  > > Elaine
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 2008/7/29 Rei 
  > > 
  > > Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
  > > target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut 
  lama...LONG
  > > way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
  > > 
  > > 
  > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"
  > > 
  > >  wrote:
  > > >
  > > > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
  > > > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
  > > > Hehehe...
  > > >
  > > > compor.com
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 
  
  > > wrote:
  > > > >
  > > > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
  > > > >
  > > > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
  > > > >
  > > > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
  > > > >
  > > > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
  > > > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
  > > > >
  > > > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
  > > ganti
  > > > > vertu hihihihihihihi
  > > > >
  > > >
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > >  - - --
  > > 
  > > + +
  > > + + + + +
  > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
  > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
  > > + + + + +
  > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
  > >
  >



   

[obrolan-bandar] semua turun..

[Bettina Tan]

yang penting ASII manggung lusa..

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Rei]

Exactly pak Arnold! Itu sdh tanda2...hehehe


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Milis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> i think you should quit saham..ntar bisa gila om..
> 
> losing sanity make you bankrupt, bankrupt make you insane as 
well.. 
> wakakaka..
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Frendy"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I did it though
> > BUT...the MONEY I LOST in ELTYI WILL WAIT till I GET IT 
> BACK !!...
> > so what huh ?? i said F*CK ELTY...so what ? prove it that it is 
> GOOD... BUY YOUR ELTY till 600...IF YOU CAN
> > this is a democracy countryso wake up dude
> > hell yeahno one can prevent anyone expressing their 
> opinion...HERE...except Mbah...
> > sorry Mbah...you're the bozzhehehe.
> > 
> >   - Original Message - 
> >   From: icchanks 
> >   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> >   Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:55 PM
> >   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? 
> BANKRUPT INVESTOR
> > 
> > 
> >   So invest ur money in bank only...
> > 
> >   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Frendy" 

> >   wrote:
> >   >
> >   > hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
> >   > I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year 
investing.
> >   > 2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
> >   > how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
> >   > investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
> >   > from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
> >   > or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 
> years ? 
> >   > say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
> >   > ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
> >   > ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
> >   > 
> >   > Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
> >   > 
> >   > compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
> >   > my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if 
we
> >   > invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > - Original Message - 
> >   > From: Rei 
> >   > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> >   > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
> >   > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest 
> instead 
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > - Original Message 
> >   > From: Elaine Sui 
> >   > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> >   > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
> >   > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada 
rugi
> >   terus. Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, 
right?
> >   hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang 
> karena
> >   target kena. ha ha ha ha..
> >   > 
> >   > Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.
> >   > 
> >   > Elaine
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 2008/7/29 Rei 
> >   > 
> >   > Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa 
ke
> >   > target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut 
> lama...LONG
> >   > way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"
> >   > 
> >   >  wrote:
> >   > >
> >   > > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> >   > > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> >   > > Hehehe...
> >   > >
> >   > > compor.com
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 
> 
> >   > wrote:
> >   > > >
> >   > > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang 
nyungsep
> >   > > >
> >   > > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> >   > > >
> >   > > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> >   > > >
> >   > > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> >   > > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> >   > > >
> >   > > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan 
lagi
> >   > ganti
> >   > > > vertu hihihihihihihi
> >   > > >
> >   > >
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   >  - - --
> >   > 
> >   > + +
> >   > + + + + +
> >   > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> >   > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> >   > + + + + +
> >   > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> >   >
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Rei]

Saya juga ada yg nyangkut kok pak icchanks...no worries...biasa lah. Kalo 
nyangkut terus marah2, normal...apalagi newbie. Ada juga saham saya yg nyetak 
gain banyak. So, ada yg manis ada yg pahit 
Investor/trader mesti tenang, kalo nggak tenang jangan harap bisa untung!



- Original Message 
From: icchanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:12:26 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR


Kayaknya sebagian besar saham nyungsep kok,jadi you are not alone,
kecuali para suhu kyk Mbah, Bung Rei, DE, El pasti masih bisa nyetak
gain,tp buat ara newbie yah sabar-sabar deh nunggu masa bullish datang
lagi terus out aja dari market bila portofolionya dah IJO tp jangan
tiap hari liat trading bisa ZtRESS...(hanya sekedar saran)

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei  wrote:
>
> Well, just unfortunate for you...some of my investments have given
megreat results...
> Saham buat invest kan tidak cuma Antm & Elty pak...
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Frendy 
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:50:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
BANKRUPT INVESTOR
> 
> 
> hehe...I don't trade as wellbut�INVEST ?
> I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing... ..
> 2007 HELL INVESTING... .am I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
> how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
> investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
> from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
> or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ? 
> say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL. ...
> ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
> ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
> �
> Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK�FUNDAMENTAL ?
> �
> compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
> my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
> invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
> �
> �
> �
> - Original Message - 
> From: Rei 
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
> 
> You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Elaine Sui 
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
> 
> 
> Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi
terus. Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right?
hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena
target kena. ha ha ha ha..
> 
> Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> 2008/7/29 Rei 
> 
> Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
> target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
> way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"
> 
>  wrote:
> >
> > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> > Hehehe...
> >
> > compor.com
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> > >
> > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> > >
> > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> > >
> > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> > >
> > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
> ganti
> > > vertu hihihihihihihi
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
>  - - --
> 
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>

 


  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Milis]

i think you should quit saham..ntar bisa gila om..

losing sanity make you bankrupt, bankrupt make you insane as well.. 
wakakaka..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Frendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I did it though
> BUT...the MONEY I LOST in ELTYI WILL WAIT till I GET IT 
BACK !!...
> so what huh ?? i said F*CK ELTY...so what ? prove it that it is 
GOOD... BUY YOUR ELTY till 600...IF YOU CAN
> this is a democracy countryso wake up dude
> hell yeahno one can prevent anyone expressing their 
opinion...HERE...except Mbah...
> sorry Mbah...you're the bozzhehehe.
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: icchanks 
>   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:55 PM
>   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? 
BANKRUPT INVESTOR
> 
> 
>   So invest ur money in bank only...
> 
>   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Frendy" 
>   wrote:
>   >
>   > hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
>   > I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing.
>   > 2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
>   > how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
>   > investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
>   > from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
>   > or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 
years ? 
>   > say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
>   > ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
>   > ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
>   > 
>   > Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
>   > 
>   > compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
>   > my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
>   > invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > - Original Message - 
>   > From: Rei 
>   > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>   > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
>   > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest 
instead 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > - Original Message 
>   > From: Elaine Sui 
>   > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>   > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
>   > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi
>   terus. Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right?
>   hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang 
karena
>   target kena. ha ha ha ha..
>   > 
>   > Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.
>   > 
>   > Elaine
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 2008/7/29 Rei 
>   > 
>   > Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
>   > target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut 
lama...LONG
>   > way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
>   > 
>   > 
>   > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"
>   > 
>   >  wrote:
>   > >
>   > > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
>   > > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
>   > > Hehehe...
>   > >
>   > > compor.com
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 

>   > wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
>   > > >
>   > > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
>   > > >
>   > > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
>   > > >
>   > > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
>   > > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
>   > > >
>   > > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
>   > ganti
>   > > > vertu hihihihihihihi
>   > > >
>   > >
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >  - - --
>   > 
>   > + +
>   > + + + + +
>   > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>   > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>   > + + + + +
>   > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>   >
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: OIL 120 ?

[t_bumi]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> aneh tapi nyata
> sayang besok BEI libur..

> SIP : TBUMI

Aneh tapi nyata, saat ini banyak pemain saham yang nyangkut

diberbagai sektor saham.

Penurunan harga minyak adalah awal dari pemulihan ekonomi

global.

[obrolan-bandar] Re: OIL 120 ?

[icchanks]

Heheh, beruntunglah yang pegang komoditas...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> aneh tapi nyata
> sayang besok BEI libur..
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Frendy]

hahaahahtau aja..
wewtau darimana juga.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dean Earwicker 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT 
INVESTOR



  Heh kalo rugi aja berisik. Pdhl dah cuan di hexa diem2 aje.. :)

  Regards,
  DE


  Pada 29 Juli 2008 21:50, Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing.
2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ? 
say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?

Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?

compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...



  - Original Message - 
  From: Rei 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?



  You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead  




  - Original Message 
  From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?



  Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus. 
Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu 
Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha ha..

  Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.

  Elaine


  2008/7/29 Rei 

Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"

 wrote:
>
> NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> Hehehe...
>
> compor.com
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 
wrote:
> >
> > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> >
> > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> >
> > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> >
> > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> >
> > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
ganti
> > vertu hihihihihihihi
> >
>



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[obrolan-bandar] OIL 120 ?

[hendrik_lwww]

aneh tapi nyata
sayang besok BEI libur..

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Dean Earwicker]

Heh kalo rugi aja berisik. Pdhl dah cuan di hexa diem2 aje.. :)

Regards,
DE

Pada 29 Juli 2008 21:50, Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

>  hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
> I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing.
> 2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
> how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
> investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
> from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
> or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ?
> say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
> ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
> ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
>
> Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
>
> compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ?
> my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
> invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
>
>  You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
>
>  *Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus.
> Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu
> Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha
> ha..
>
> Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.
>
> Elaine**
> *
> 2008/7/29 Rei >
>
>> Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
>> target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
>> way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
>>
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ,
>> "Petualang Saham"
>>   wrote:
>> >
>> > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
>> > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
>> > Hehehe...
>> >
>> > compor.com
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
>> "conx_2003" 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
>> > >
>> > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
>> > >
>> > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
>> > >
>> > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
>> > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
>> > >
>> > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
>> ganti
>> > > vertu hihihihihihihi
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[icchanks]

Kayaknya sebagian besar saham nyungsep kok,jadi you are not alone,
kecuali para suhu kyk Mbah, Bung Rei, DE, El pasti masih bisa nyetak
gain,tp buat ara newbie yah sabar-sabar deh nunggu masa bullish datang
lagi terus out aja dari market bila portofolionya dah IJO tp jangan
tiap hari liat trading bisa ZtRESS...(hanya sekedar saran)

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, just unfortunate for you...some of my investments have given
megreat results...
> Saham buat invest kan tidak cuma Antm & Elty pak...
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:50:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
BANKRUPT INVESTOR
> 
> 
> hehe...I don't trade as wellbut�INVEST ?
> I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing... ..
> 2007 HELL INVESTING... .am I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
> how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
> investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
> from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
> or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ? 
> say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL. ...
> ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
> ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
> �
> Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK�FUNDAMENTAL ?
> �
> compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
> my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
> invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
> �
> �
> �
> - Original Message - 
> From: Rei 
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
> 
> You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead  
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Elaine Sui 
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
> 
> 
> Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi
terus. Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right?
hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena
target kena. ha ha ha ha..
> 
> Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> 2008/7/29 Rei 
> 
> Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
> target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
> way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"
> 
>  wrote:
> >
> > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> > Hehehe...
> >
> > compor.com
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> > >
> > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> > >
> > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> > >
> > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> > >
> > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
> ganti
> > > vertu hihihihihihihi
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Frendy]

I did it though
BUT...the MONEY I LOST in ELTYI WILL WAIT till I GET IT BACK !!...
so what huh ?? i said F*CK ELTY...so what ? prove it that it is GOOD... BUY 
YOUR ELTY till 600...IF YOU CAN
this is a democracy countryso wake up dude
hell yeahno one can prevent anyone expressing their opinion...HERE...except 
Mbah...
sorry Mbah...you're the bozzhehehe.

  - Original Message - 
  From: icchanks 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:55 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR


  So invest ur money in bank only...

  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Frendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  wrote:
  >
  > hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
  > I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing.
  > 2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
  > how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
  > investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
  > from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
  > or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ? 
  > say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
  > ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
  > ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
  > 
  > Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
  > 
  > compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
  > my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
  > invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: Rei 
  > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
  > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > - Original Message 
  > From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
  > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi
  terus. Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right?
  hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena
  target kena. ha ha ha ha..
  > 
  > Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.
  > 
  > Elaine
  > 
  > 
  > 2008/7/29 Rei 
  > 
  > Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
  > target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
  > way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
  > 
  > 
  > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"
  > 
  >  wrote:
  > >
  > > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
  > > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
  > > Hehehe...
  > >
  > > compor.com
  > >
  > >
  > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 
  > wrote:
  > > >
  > > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
  > > >
  > > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
  > > >
  > > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
  > > >
  > > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
  > > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
  > > >
  > > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
  > ganti
  > > > vertu hihihihihihihi
  > > >
  > >
  > 
  > 
  > 
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[obrolan-bandar] re :Just Refresh ....TOll Roads (2) .... by yu

[James Liem]

schedule for analyst meeting dgn ybs hari jumat ini bila tdk ada perubahan 
. , yg naik kapal ini harus siap2 u/ long journey(khusus penumpang dewasa 
yg sdh siap menghadapi apapun resikonya), jadi perbekalan/stocknya mesti bener2 
memadai biar nggak berhenti di tengah jalan .. dari sudut pandang kita (bisa 
salah) ... yg satu ini memiliki potensi& dasar yg bagus u/ dibawa berlayar jauh 
(harganya) are u ready ??? 
 
Bung riil investor  nampaknya anda jeli juga melihat manuver2nya yg terjadi 
 just stay cool.. 
 
Discl On ... 
 
Regards
 
"Semuanya akan Indah tepat pada waktu NYA"


--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Jessya Martina Jessya Martina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Jessya Martina Jessya Martina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just Refresh TOll Roads (2)  by yu
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 8:43 PM






SETUJU RP 1.700 target pertama


2008/7/27, riil_investor@ yahoo.com : 





Emang bener bung James! Merem aja belinya! Bandar nya lg mainin harga agar dpt 
murah! Buangnya pakai asing (AK) n belinya pakai lokal (SP). Lihat aja tuh si 
lokal ngumpulin terus! Pastinya ada maksud maksud lain dah! Ngumpulinnya jg 
significant banget! So? Buy aja dong bung James? Akur dah! 
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From: James Liem <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:25:30 -0700 (PDT)
To: ; 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Just Refresh TOll Roads (2)  by yu








masih ingatkah ...??? Tgl 13 Jully 2008 posting di milist  lvl harga di 
1090 - 1120 ...(vol masih relativ kecil)
 
un told story  speed test .. 1300 .. broom .. broom ... broommm ..  TP 
1700
 
Discl on !!!
 
Regards
 
"Semuanya akan indah tepat pada waktu NYA"


 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Rei]

Well, just unfortunate for you...some of my investments have given megreat 
results...
Saham buat invest kan tidak cuma Antm & Elty pak...



- Original Message 
From: Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:50:13 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR


hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing... ..
2007 HELL INVESTING... .am I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ? 
say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL. ...
ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
 
Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
 
compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
 
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Rei 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead  



- Original Message 
From: Elaine Sui 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?


Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus. Mana bisa 
semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa 
jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha ha..

Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.

Elaine


2008/7/29 Rei 

Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"

 wrote:
>
> NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> Hehehe...
>
> compor.com
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 
wrote:
> >
> > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> >
> > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> >
> > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> >
> > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> >
> > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
ganti
> > vertu hihihihihihihi
> >
>



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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[icchanks]

So invest ur money in bank only...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Frendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
> I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing.
> 2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
> how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
> investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
> from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
> or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ? 
> say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
> ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
> ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
> 
> Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
> 
> compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
> my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
> invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
> 
> 
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Rei 
>   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
>   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
> 
> 
> 
>   You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   - Original Message 
>   From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
>   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
> 
> 
> 
>   Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi
terus. Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right?
hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena
target kena. ha ha ha ha..
> 
>   Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.
> 
>   Elaine
> 
> 
>   2008/7/29 Rei 
> 
> Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
> target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
> way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"
> 
>  wrote:
> >
> > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> > Hehehe...
> >
> > compor.com
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> > >
> > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> > >
> > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> > >
> > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> > >
> > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
> ganti
> > > vertu hihihihihihihi
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Frendy]

hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing.
2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ? 
say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?

Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?

compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? 
my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...



  - Original Message - 
  From: Rei 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?



  You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead  




  - Original Message 
  From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?



  Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus. Mana 
bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu Elaine 
paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha ha..

  Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.

  Elaine


  2008/7/29 Rei 

Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"

 wrote:
>
> NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> Hehehe...
>
> compor.com
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 
wrote:
> >
> > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> >
> > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> >
> > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> >
> > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> >
> > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
ganti
> > vertu hihihihihihihi
> >
>



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

[Rei]

You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead 



- Original Message 
From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?


Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus. Mana bisa 
semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa 
jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha ha..

Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.

Elaine


2008/7/29 Rei 

Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham"

 wrote:
>
> NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> Hehehe...
>
> compor.com
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" 
wrote:
> >
> > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> >
> > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> >
> > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> >
> > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> >
> > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
ganti
> > vertu hihihihihihihi
> >
>



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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

[pemainedan]

harus pintar2 manipulate market utk bisa cuan gede, ya 'kan EL? 

PS: "manipulate" artinya beda dg menipu. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> *Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi 
terus. Mana
> bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa 
perlu Elaine
> paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha 
ha ha..
> 
> Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.
> 
> Elaine**
> *
> 2008/7/29 Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
> > target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut 
lama...LONG
> > way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Petualang Saham"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> > > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> > > Hehehe...
> > >
> > > compor.com
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "conx_2003" 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> > > >
> > > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> > > >
> > > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> > > >
> > > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> > > >
> > > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
> > ganti
> > > > vertu hihihihihihihi
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > + +
> > + + + + +
> > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > + + + + +
> > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

[Frendy]

hehehe..iya juga sihgw sih memang mau TAHAN sampai 10 taun
siapa tau dari saham jadi rumah / apartment di eltykekekeke...
namanya saja orang KECIL mau beli RUMAH, tapi berhubung gak ada DOEIT...
jadi ya nyicil aja deh 10 taunhahaha.KPR di elty saja.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Maddy Vain 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?


Sabar saja ELTY yang pegang banyak sekali termasuk macam macam 
reksadana, BUMI saya duluan yang mau terbang nich... 

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  From: Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 9:19 AM


  aje gile...ane pny barang di 600 neh
  kapan lepas nya..gila juga loe
  help help pak bandar.pak oentoeng...neng elainehelp help
  hehehehe ..

- Original Message - 
From: Kabu Nusi 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?



  ditungguin di bawah 300 untuk formasi double bottom :)



  --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> 
wrote:

From: Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
To: "obrolan-bandar" 
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 9:07 AM


wakakaakakkaakakaka kak.. . 

   



   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

[Bambang Setiawan]

Ini nich korban ELTY beneran...




Selasa, 29/07/2008 20:35 WIB

Gondola Jatuh Dari Lantai 32 Rasuna Epicentrum

Andi Saputra - detikNews






Jakarta -
Gondola yang jatuh di Rasuna Epicentrum meluncur dari lantai 32. 
Kecelakaan ini terjadi akibat satu tali gondola lepas.

"Entah mengapa tiba-tiba talinya putus dan langsung jatuh merosot ke lantai 1. 
Duerrr," ujar Tarjo, sesama pekerja proyek.
 
Tarjo
menjelaskan kedua rekannya sedang memasang kaca-kaca jendela, ketika
peristiwa ini berlangsung. "Setahu saya keduanya sedang memasang
kaca-kaca," ungkapnya. 








--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Andi Wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Andi Wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 8:29 AM











Barangnya bandar ilang..makanya ELTY diturunin biar barang bandar 
dibalikin..

Siapa yg udah copet banyak ELTY? Ratusan milyar dicepot...aje gileee



--- On Tue, 29/7/08, Maddy Vain <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:
From: Maddy Vain <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, 29 July, 2008, 5:12 PM








Sabar saja ELTY yang pegang banyak sekali termasuk macam macam 
reksadana, BUMI saya duluan yang mau terbang nich... 

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Frendy  wrote:

From: Frendy 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 9:19 AM





aje gile...ane pny barang di 600 neh
kapan lepas nya..gila juga loe
help help pak bandar.pak oentoeng...neng elainehelp help
hehehehe ..
 

- Original Message - 
From: Kabu Nusi 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?








ditungguin di bawah 300 untuk formasi double bottom :)



--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

From: Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
To: "obrolan-bandar" 
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 9:07 AM



wakakaakakkaakakaka kak.. .





  
  


 


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] MetaStock Explorer [29 Juli 2008]

[Ferry Wachjudi]

kok angkanya aneh begini?

MetaStock Team wrote:

  
  
   
  
 
  
 

  

  
  

  




MetaStock Explorer


  
  






  
  


29 July 2008






  
  


Most Liquid During Uptrend
  
  


SIMBOL
Today Value
AvgVal 1-week
Stronger


  
  


TLKM
3E+11
3.56E+11
0


  
  


BBNI
2E+11
1.79E+11
0


  
  


BBRI
3E+10
9.6E+10
0


  
  


BBCA
2E+10
6.94E+10
0


  
  


MIRA
2E+10
5.99E+10
0


  
  


BDMN
1E+10
5.07E+10
0


  
  


HEXA
3E+10
3.52E+10
0


  
  


LPKR
2E+10
3.14E+10
0


  
  


JSMR
1E+10
1.6E+10
0


  
  


WIKA
2E+10
1.16E+10
1


  
  












  
  












  
  


Standard Error
Bands - Swing Index Buy Signal


  
  


SIMBOL
Last
Today Value
AvgVal  1-week


  
  


BNBR
400
1.66E+11
1.12E+11


  
  


POLY
123
1.97E+08
2.62E+08


  
  












  
  












  
  


Bandar Detector Average Buy
  
  


SIMBOL
Today Value
AvgVal  1-week




  
  


BBRI
5E+07
9.6E+10




  
  


ASII
2E+07
9.51E+10




  
  


PNBN
1E+08
8.69E+09




  
  


DEWA
6E+07
7.32E+09




  
  


BVIC
1E+06
91983200




  
  


BATA
1497
30975000




  
  












  
  












  
  


AiBear Rebound/Rally Signal
  
  


SIMBOL
Last
Today Value
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CTTH
56
3808
9989600


  
  


YPAS
415
7.96E+08
8E+09


  
  












  
  












  
  


Bandar Detector Angelo's
Blue Dot
  
  


SIMBOL
Last
Today Value
AvgVal  1-week


  
  


TLKM
8000
2.54E+11
3.56E+11


  
  


ASII
22000
4.48E+10
9.51E+10


  
  


CTRS
520
1.94E+09
4.31E+09


  
  


DART
380
8.73E+08
1.17E+09


  
  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

[Andi Wahyudi]

Barangnya bandar ilang..makanya ELTY diturunin biar barang bandar dibalikin..

Siapa yg udah copet banyak ELTY? Ratusan milyar dicepot...aje gileee



--- On Tue, 29/7/08, Maddy Vain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Maddy Vain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 29 July, 2008, 5:12 PM











Sabar saja ELTY yang pegang banyak sekali termasuk macam macam 
reksadana, BUMI saya duluan yang mau terbang nich... 

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Frendy  wrote:

From: Frendy 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 9:19 AM





aje gile...ane pny barang di 600 neh
kapan lepas nya..gila juga loe
help help pak bandar.pak oentoeng...neng elainehelp help
hehehehe ..
 

- Original Message - 
From: Kabu Nusi 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?








ditungguin di bawah 300 untuk formasi double bottom :)



--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

From: Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
To: "obrolan-bandar" 
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 9:07 AM



wakakaakakkaakakaka kak.. .





  
  




 
















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[obrolan-bandar] DICARI KORBAN BEI BERIKUTNYA.. PENTING

[kelvin Chang]

Kayaknya korban bei akan bertambah banyak nih, yg udah ketauan sih bandar 
junior berikutnya siapa yg mau daftar... 
btw bandar aja stress, gimana sm yg newbie nih ? auk ah gelap...
peace man. ^ ^



  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

[Christine Boyd]

iya nih..,. butuh komando El untuk naik kembali at least ke 500 >??



- Original Message 
From: Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:28:16 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?


Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke 
target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG 
way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Petualang Saham" 
 wrote:
>
> NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot. 
> Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho. 
> Hehehe...
> 
> compor.com
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003"  
wrote:
> >
> > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> > 
> > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> > 
> > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> > 
> > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh 
> > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> > 
> > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi 
ganti
> > vertu hihihihihihihi
> >
>

 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Saham Bambang Tri di Global Mediacom (eks Bimantara) Terancam Disita

[ARRAY27]

Lho, Halimah kan emang udah Komisaris tunggal di Asriland, khan
tinggal balik nama pemegang saham Asriand dari BT (99,99%) ke Halimah.
Gitu aja kok repot. Klo enggak mau pusing2, yah, guyur aja ke pemegang
saham lain. Lagi nunggu nih, kali bisa 250.


On 7/29/08, Capital Market Care <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kepemilikan sekitar 13,82 persen saham Bambang Triharmodjo di PTGlobal
> Mediacom Tbk (BNTR) melalui PT Asriland terancam disita pengadilan,
> sehubungan dengan kasus sita harta yang diajikan pihak Halimah Triharmodjo
> kepada Bambang Trihatmodjo. Pengacara Halimah, Lelyana Santoso SH
> mengatakan, pihaknya akan mengajukan permohonan pengadilan unuk melakukan
> sita harga Bambang Tri yang ada di Global Mediacom. Jika ini terjadi, bisa
> dibayangkan bagaimana luluh-lantaknya harga saham BNTR di bursa saham. Apa
> komentar Anda ?
>
>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] need answer

[Meizal]

Ikut nimbrung ya pak.

Kalau bapak tujuan investasi lebih untuk spekulasi (risk taker ), instrument di 
future mungkin cocok untuk bapak, tapi kalau tipe bapak risk moderat,sebaik nya 
cari perusahaan yang di belakang nya ada title sekuritas nya ( perusahaan 
sekuritas ,bukan perusahaan future )

karna future dan sekuritas ( securities ) itu beda pak; 

kalau bapak mau berinvestasi di produk turunan saham( yang mana risk reward nya 
lebih tinggi dari saham langsung ( equity )),pilihan nya perusahaan 
futures,disana yang di perdagangkan nya bukan saham langsung ( asset ) tapi 
kontrak nya -makan nya disebut produk turunan saham- ;) ( 
Co:Hanseng,kospi,nikkei),bursanya bukan BEJ,tapi BBJ ( bursa Berjangka Jakarta 
),nanti mekanisme nya kira2 seperti ini pak...account bapak akan didongkrak 
nilai nya dengan yang nama nya leverage (jadi dengan modal US$ 10.000 seolah2 
bapak berinvestasi US $100.000 ) --> leverage ini yang bikin banyak orang kapok 
berinvestasi di futures...risk managment nya kudu jago banget pak untuk bisa 
survive di dunia ini..silahkan coba diskusikan lagi dengan marketing yang 
menawarkan produk ini ke bapak agar jelas aturan main nya

Kalau disaham langsung ( Equity ),bapak harus buka account di perusahaan 
sekuritas,dan yang bapak jual dan beli itu asset karna bapak beli perusahaan 
nya langsung,co: TLKM,Bumi dsb.karna sifat nya yang asset maka tingkat 
risikonya masih dibawah future...sekuritas selain menjual saham langsung( 
equity ) juga menjual Obligasi, produk pasar uang dan reksadana.jadi kalo 
bapak mau coba memperkecil risiko dengan diversivikasi asset...sekuritas lebih 
cocok.

Semua nya sih balik lagi ke preferensi risiko bapak, kalau boleh saran coba 
kenalin dulu tujuan&tingkat resiko yang bisa bapak tolelir sebelum memutuskan 
investasi seperti apa yang mau dipilih...biar gak ngedumel belakangan hehehehehe

Maaf kalo ada yang kurang tepat  mungkin rekan2 ada yang punya masukan 
lain??

 -- good luck ---

regrad's

  - Original Message - 
  From: toniy76 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:45 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] need answer


  halo forum ...

  saya tertrik main saham tapi melalui midtou future yg kantornya di
  sarinah building,mohon tanggapannya apakah future ini kapabel atau ada
  saran lain buat saya yang pemula ini ... 



   

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Saham Bambang Tri di Global Mediacom (eks Bimantara) Terancam Disita

[kspm_rheza]

hahA2!! Stuju pak..

> Buy on rumor and bad news!!

mw dbuat kaya GGRM itu mungkin..kekeke



> 
> Komentar:
> 
> mmm
> 
> Buy on rumor and bad news??
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

[namira_latif]

elty keuntungannya diperkirakan naik 3 kali lipat.
 lho

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Frendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> aje gile...ane pny barang di 600 neh
> kapan lepas nya..gila juga loe
> help help pak bandar.pak oentoeng...neng elainehelp 
help
> hehehehe..
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Kabu Nusi 
>   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:15 PM
>   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
> 
> 
> 
> ditungguin di bawah 300 untuk formasi double bottom :)
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>   From: Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
>   To: "obrolan-bandar" 
>   Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 9:07 AM
> 
> 
>   wakakaakakkaakakakakak...
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

[Maddy Vain]

Sabar saja ELTY yang pegang banyak sekali termasuk macam macam reksadana, BUMI 
saya duluan yang mau terbang nich... 

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 9:19 AM







aje gile...ane pny barang di 600 neh
kapan lepas nya..gila juga loe
help help pak bandar.pak oentoeng...neng elainehelp help
hehehehe ..
 

- Original Message - 
From: Kabu Nusi 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?








ditungguin di bawah 300 untuk formasi double bottom :)



--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

From: Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
To: "obrolan-bandar" 
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 9:07 AM



wakakaakakkaakakaka kak.. .
 














  

Bls: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI : BUY

[Richard Ropongi]

Sultan justru mo jualan pak, makanya nyuruh retail beli..
Sell on News !!



- Pesan Asli 
Dari: ihsg 88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Selasa, 29 Juli, 2008 15:38:56
Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI : BUY


Kira-2 apa bisa naik ya kalau BBNI net income 1H08 nya turun 56,9%?
 
Tapi saya hormati kalau pak Sultan sudi menaikan BBNI supaya retail jadi happy.


  


  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Saham Bambang Tri di Global Mediacom (eks Bimantara) Terancam Disita

[Daddy Aussie]

Betoel, wanita racun dunia (The Changcutters)...
Pantes Indonesia belum bisa bebas flu burung, lha wong masih ada kasus 
halima(h) and satu ini



- Original Message 
From: imam wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:30:12 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Saham Bambang Tri di Global Mediacom (eks 
Bimantara) Terancam Disita


Intinya semua gara2 wanita..beware with 3 ta ( harta tahta dan wanita ) that is 
weakness of man..padahal mayangsari wong ndeso ayu halimah lah...

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Capital Market Care  
wrote:

From: Capital Market Care 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Saham Bambang Tri di Global Mediacom (eks Bimantara) 
Terancam Disita
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 12:11 PM


Kepemilikan sekitar 13,82 persen saham Bambang Triharmodjo di PTGlobal Mediacom 
Tbk (BNTR) melalui PT Asriland terancam disita pengadilan, sehubungan dengan 
kasus sita harta yang diajikan pihak Halimah Triharmodjo kepada Bambang 
Trihatmodjo. Pengacara Halimah, Lelyana Santoso SH mengatakan, pihaknya akan 
mengajukan permohonan pengadilan unuk melakukan sita harga Bambang Tri yang ada 
di Global Mediacom. Jika ini terjadi, bisa dibayangkan bagaimana 
luluh-lantaknya harga saham BNTR di bursa saham. Apa komentar Anda ?
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BREAKING NEWS : CTRP

[paramanandana]

Kalo jaman Orba dulu, Ryan bisa msk DPR, dari utusan golongan Psikopat...!


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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BREAKING NEWS : CTRP
Sent: Jul 29, 2008 11:39

kirain breaking news nya ryan jagal jombang diangkat jadi anggota  
dpr/mpr.. heheheee



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

[Elaine Sui]

*Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus. Mana
bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu Elaine
paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha ha..

Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.

Elaine**
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2008/7/29 Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
> target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
> way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
>
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> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Petualang Saham"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> > Hehehe...
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> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "conx_2003" 
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> > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> > >
> > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> > >
> > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> > >
> > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> > >
> > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
> ganti
> > > vertu hihihihihihihi
> > >
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

[Rei]

Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke 
target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG 
way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Petualang Saham" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot. 
> Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho. 
> Hehehe...
> 
> compor.com
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "conx_2003"  
wrote:
> >
> > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> > 
> > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> > 
> > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> > 
> > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh 
> > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> > 
> > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi 
ganti
> > vertu hihihihihihihi
> >
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

[Petualang Saham]

NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot. 
Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho. 
Hehehe...

compor.com


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "conx_2003" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> 
> kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> 
> bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> 
> hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh 
> kali ini jual apaan yeh
> 
> jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi ganti
> vertu hihihihihihihi
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

[conx_2003]

klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep

kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep

bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?

hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh 
kali ini jual apaan yeh

jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi ganti
vertu hihihihihihihi

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Saham Bambang Tri di Global Mediacom (eks Bimantara) Terancam Disita

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

2008/7/29 Capital Market Care <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Kepemilikan sekitar 13,82 persen saham Bambang Triharmodjo di PTGlobal
> Mediacom Tbk (BNTR) melalui PT Asriland terancam disita pengadilan,
> sehubungan dengan kasus sita harta yang diajikan pihak Halimah Triharmodjo
> kepada Bambang Trihatmodjo. Pengacara Halimah, Lelyana Santoso SH
> mengatakan, pihaknya akan mengajukan permohonan pengadilan unuk melakukan
> sita harga Bambang Tri yang ada di Global Mediacom. Jika ini terjadi, bisa
> dibayangkan bagaimana luluh-lantaknya harga saham BNTR di bursa saham. Apa
> komentar Anda ?

Komentar:

mmm

Buy on rumor and bad news??

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Saham Bambang Tri di Global Mediacom (eks Bimantara) Terancam Disita

[Saham Oke]

ada ta ke 4 pak waspada orangbuta.ntar ketarbak.heheheh canda
lagian yg disita harusnya burungnya yg bersalah..:-).

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, imam wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: imam wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Saham Bambang Tri di Global Mediacom (eks 
Bimantara) Terancam Disita
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 5:30 AM











Intinya semua gara2 wanita..beware with 3 ta ( harta tahta dan 
wanita ) that is weakness of man..padahal mayangsari wong ndeso ayu halimah 
lah...

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Capital Market Care  
wrote:
From: Capital Market Care 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Saham Bambang Tri di Global Mediacom (eks Bimantara) 
Terancam Disita
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 12:11 PM








Kepemilikan sekitar 13,82 persen saham Bambang Triharmodjo di 
PTGlobal Mediacom Tbk (BNTR) melalui PT Asriland terancam disita pengadilan, 
sehubungan dengan kasus sita harta yang diajikan pihak Halimah Triharmodjo 
kepada Bambang Trihatmodjo. Pengacara Halimah, Lelyana Santoso SH mengatakan, 
pihaknya akan mengajukan permohonan pengadilan unuk melakukan sita harga 
Bambang Tri yang ada di Global Mediacom. Jika ini terjadi, bisa dibayangkan 
bagaimana luluh-lantaknya harga saham BNTR di bursa saham. Apa komentar Anda ?





  
  


 




  
  




 

















  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Gw sempet perhatikan beberapa hari lalu (jumat), value transaksi > 1T
hari itu. Klo rata2 1T - 1,5 T sehari maka untuk buang 20 T itu
berarti perlu waktu gak lebih dari 20 hari. Tinggal liat kali pak
Andi, BUMI udah turun selama berapa hari?

2008/7/29 Andi Wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Kata Pak DE; bukannya ada 20 Trilyun yang akan keluar dari BUMI? Makanya
> BUMI diangkat kali ya?
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI

[Andi Wahyudi]

Kata Pak DE; bukannya ada 20 Trilyun yang akan keluar dari BUMI? Makanya BUMI 
diangkat kali ya? 

--- On Mon, 28/7/08, rudd haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: rudd haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 28 July, 2008, 4:14 PM











atau gara2 ini kali...
reason khan bisa di cari apa aja...
 
KPC Lanjutkan Kegiatan Penambangan
Indro Bagus SU - detikFinance



(Foto: Logo KPC) 
Jakarta - PT Kaltim Prima Coal (KPC), anak usaha PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI) 
menyatakan akan tetap melanjutkan kegiatan penambangannya setelah memperoleh 
izin dari Kapolres Kutai Timur.

"Kami sudah koordinasi dengan Kapolres setempat dan mereka memberi izin untuk 
tetap melanjutkan kegiatan penambangan. Jadi operasi tambang tetap berjalan," 
ujar GM KPC, Harry Miarsono saat dihubungi detikFinance, Senin (28/7/2008).

Sebelumnya, pemerintahan Bupati Kutai Timur menyatakan menghentikan sebagian 
kegiatan penambangan KPC terkait adanya tumpang tindih lahan milik PT Porodisa 
Trading.

Namun pihak KPC menyatakan
 telah memperoleh izin kegiatan penambangan dari Menteri Kehutanan dan tidak 
melakukan pelanggaran. Harry menyatakan wilayah penambangan KPC berada di 
wilayah Area Penggunaan Lain (APL) bukan kawasan hutan, sebagaimana dituding 
Bupati Kutai Timur.

"Kegiatan penambangan kami telah mendapat izin Perjanjian Karya Pengusahaan 
Pertambangan Batubara (PKP2B) dari Menteri Kehutanan. Jadi tidak ada 
pelanggaran. Lagipula penghentian operasi adalah wewenang menteri ESDM bukan 
pemda," tegas Harry.

Sehubungan dengan itu, Staf Khusus Bupati Kutai Timur, Budi Suryono ketika 
dihubungi detikFinance pagi tadi menyatakan akan tetap meneruskan proses 
penyidikan hingga ke tingkat pengadilan.

"Kami melihat ada pelanggaran oleh KPC. Jadi kegiatan penambangan kami minta 
hentikan di lahan yang sedang bersengketa hingga proses pengadilan selesai," 
ujar Budi.

KPC diduga menggunakan lahan Hutan Tanaman Industri (HTI) seluas 37.007 hektar 
milik PT
 Porodisa. Total luas lahan KPC seluas 90 ribu hektar dengan hak PKP2B.

"Pada tahun 1990 kami memperoleh izin pinjam pakai seluas 13 ribu hektar diatas 
lahan 37 ribu hektar tersebut. Kemudian pada 2001 kami memperoleh perluasan 
lahan 8 ribu hektar di Area Penggunaan Lain. Semuanya sudah sesuai peraturan 
yang berlaku," jelas Harry.

"Penghentian tambang bisa mengakibatkan terhambatnya pengiriman batubara ke 
PLTU Tanjung Jati B yang mana dapat mengakibatkan gangguan supply listrik di 
Jawa," imbuh Harry.

Dengan didasarkan oleh beberapa alasan tersebut, KPC menyatakan akan terus 
melanjutkan kegiatan operasi penambangan. Apalagi produksi batubara KPC memasok 
ke PLTU Tanjung Jati B yang memasok listrik di Jawa.(dro/ir) 

--- On Mon, 7/28/08, Win <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

From: Win <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 4:02 PM





dividen-nya bisa buat ngopi di starbucks, hehe


2008/7/28 Bagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] net.id>








Ada apa dengan BUMI?



  
  




 
















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