Re: [ob] Hitung2 Investasi Perkebunan - Help - Kang Bagus Dkk
Utk tanaman TBM (tanaman belum menghasilkan 1thn - 3thn dihitung pake historical cost Utk tanaman TM (tanaman menghasilkan) baru bisa dihitung pake fair value Cara ambil sampel tegak lurus sungai utk mengetahui variasi tahun tanamannya Coba liat peraturan bapepam untuk penilaian properti (perkebunan termasuk) yg baru keluar 31 desember 2009 biar lebih jelas Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: pinmilis pinmi...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:54:33 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Hitung2 Investasi Perkebunan - Help - Kang Bagus Dkk Alo Kang Bagus dan Kawan-kawan di OB. Mohon bantuannya karena saya lagi berencana untuk investasi riil di perkebunan Duku. Bagaimana cara menghitung fair value kebun nya bila saya mau beli? Benar kagak kalo di hitung macam ini: (Jumlah Pohon * Penghasilan Net/Pohon/Tahun * 10) + (Jumlah Pohon * Harga Pohon) + Harga Luas Lahan Tanah Note: - Pohon Duku bisa berumur sampai 150 Thn, - Asumsi ROI Profit Pohon Duku adalah 10 thn. Perhitungan Harga Pohon = Total biaya tanam dan perawatan sampai sudah bisa panen (15 thn) Misal: Duku ini perlu 15thn, Setahun Biaya perawatan dan pupuk total = 1jt, jadi harga nya 15Jt * 120% = 18Jt per Pohon (Sudah menghasilkan) Dgn ROI 10thn, masa panen masih bisa lebih dari 110 thn. Thanks Berat atas saran dan bantuannya :D Salam Cuan Gede, Pin
Re: [ob] Protrader poem
Nih linknya, barusan dikasih https://www.poems.co.id/asp/stocks/protrader/publish.asp Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Petra Immanuel petra.imman...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:05:48 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Protrader poem tar sore baru bisa ada link downloadnya 2009/12/9 Vernichtung gambler@gmail.com belum ada info bisa di dl dari mana nih, ada yg punya infonya? On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:46 PM, hing tjoa_to_h...@yahoo.com wrote: apa sudah ada yang coba poem yg baru? kasih komentar dong -- Rgds, Petra Immanuel
[ob] (News) Moody's Says Indonesia Banking System Outlook Negative
Moody's Says Indonesia Banking System Outlook Negative Date: 2009-08-11 Moody's Investors Service says that theoutlook for the Indonesian banking system is negative over the next 12-18months, reflecting Moody's assumptions for fundamental credit conditionsover this timeframe. Over the next 12 months, Indonesian banks will face increasing pressures -- particularly on asset quality -- but will fare relatively well as thecountry's macro-economic conditions slow, although not to the extent seenon a global basis, says Beatrice Woo, a Moody's Vice President andSenior Credit Officer. Our outlook for the Indonesia banking system alsoassumes that prevailing external macro-economic conditions are notprotracted. Woo was speaking on the release of Moody's latest outlook -- which sheauthored -- on the Indonesian banking system. The report -- which iswide-ranging in its content -- looks at positive and negative ratingtrends as well as key drivers, such as franchises, risk positioning, theregulatory environment, and financial fundamentals. Moody's rates a total of 10 Indonesian banks with their foreign currencydeposit ratings all at B1, their global local currency (GLC) depositratings ranging from Baa2 to Baa3, and their bank financial strengthratings (BFSR) from D- to D+. In the current environment, the results of rapid loan growth, averaging20% annually over the past five years, could be a potential source ofhigher credit costs, and as newly underwritten loans test the upgradedrisk management systems of the banks, says Woo. In some cases, banks had embarked on consumer as well assmall-and-medium- enterprise lending, new areas for them, and thereforenot without risk, says Woo. Furthermore, their restructured loans arevulnerable to a downturn and could become a particular problem for thestate-owned banks. In this context, the system's non-performing loansratio inched up to 4.06% in April 2009 from 3.20% at end-2008. And while liquidity is less of a threat, pricing has increased, causingnet interest margins to contract; intense competition for deposits ---the level of which has abated since late-2008 --- has boosted the cost offunds, says Woo. On the other hand, bank managements have successfully navigated throughseveral difficult economic periods post-1997 crisis, and they areexpected to respond well and with experience to the current environment,says Woo. Looking ahead, consolidation and divestment continue to pare the numberof players, but excess capacity remains. As the top 10 banks controlnearly two thirds of system deposits, the other 113 are unlikely toachieve economies of scale. As a result, tightening regulatoryrequirements will further drive consolidation. The new Moody's report further points out the government remains theindustry's largest shareholder, albeit much reduced, controlling 25% ofsystem assets. Overall, from a credit perspective, structuraldevelopments have been positive, and pricing discipline and marketstability should eventually return. Despite the negative industry outlook, creditworthiness -- that ismanageable asset quality, modest economic capital solvency, overallprofitability and reform -- will be broadly sustained. Generally,Indonesian banks are better equipped now to absorb stress, while theirmanagements have responded quickly to adverse circumstances. Hence, the BFSR for the 10 Moody's-rated Indonesian banks carry stableoutlooks. Their resulting fundamentals, especially capital levels, areexpected to be adequate enough for them to remain in their rating ranges.Their weighted average BFSR remains at D. For comparative purposes, theweighted average Indonesian BFSR during the 1997 financial crisis was Eagainst a pre-crisis D. As for their credit ratings, the Indonesian banks' GLC deposit ratings are on review for possible downgrade, in line with Moody's initiative toreview governments' abilities to provide support to their bankingsystems, as detailed in the May 2009 report, Financial Crisis MoreClosely Aligns Bank Credit Risk and Government Ratings in Non-AaaCountries. Originally published by Info-Prod Strategic Business Information. (c) 2009 Info-Prod Research (Middle East). Provided by ProQuest LLC. All rights Reserved. A service of YellowBrix, Inc. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe
Re: [ob] Re: Eropa udah ijo
Hehehe kalo sama liem paling ngupi2 nya di malioboro :-P (just kidding bro.nice to meet u here) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: Henry Liem hsantos...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:01:59 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Eropa udah ijo boleh juga Dan kapan2 kita ngupi / ngeBucks...ngalor ngidul tp jgn ngomongin saham hehe On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:52 PM, JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Kita tunggu besok, kalo aman, serahkan urusan selanjutnya kepada pasukan olah tkp, kite tinggal ngupi2 aja, kekekeq Powered by TLKM BullBerry® “The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The Law of Supply and Demand” -- *From*: Henry Liem *Date*: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:21:11 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] Re: Eropa udah ijo Lapor Dan ! DJI DJI Fut ijo tebel, hari ini IHSG seperti judul lagu MEMBLE tapi KECE !! 2009/8/12 jsxtrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com YG abis pelor..., Just Hanging There... HOLD --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, charles_3983 charles_3...@... wrote: All.. Eropa sudah mulai ijo sekarang... Ngemeng2 putusan MK gimana?
Re: [ob] Kapitalisasi BEI
Newbie mau urun pendapat juga nih...berdasarkan teori di ekonomi, index pasar modal adalah leading indicator perekonomian, jadi contohnya kenaikan minyak akan berpengaruh langsung pada index pasar modal, namun akan berpengaruh pada dunia industri sekitar 3 bulan ke depan (karena biasanya delivery minyak berdasarkan kontrak minimal 3 bulan) Utk contoh yg diberikan pak jacob oen, ihsg turun sekitar 50%, gdp growth indonesia turun juga sekitar 50% dari 6-7% menjadi 3-4% dan terjadinya ada timelag sejak penurunan ihsg Tq AW Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: jacob oen oenja...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:02:58 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Kapitalisasi BEI Jika saya boleh urun-rembug, saya kurang sepakat bahwa besarnya kapitalisasi Pasar Modal bisa menjadi salah satu indikator pertumbuhan ekonomi nasional. Secara sederhana dapat dilihat ketika terjadi crash pasar modal mulai Q4, 2008 - Q1, 2009, pertumbuhan GDP Indonesia masih positif padahal Index Gabungan BEI merosot dari 2800 ke sebuah penyusutan lebih dari 50%. Pasar Modal sekarang telah berkembang lebih dari sekedar perusahaan2 mencari dana murah untuk ekspansi, investor mendapatkan dividen dan capital gain (yang wajar), pasar modal telah menjadi sebuah tool bagi begitu beragamnya kepentingan yang kurang secara langsung dapat mempengaruhi pertumbuhan sektor riil. Note: Naik turunnya sebuah saham bukan cuma karena faktor Fundamental, prospek pertumbuhan, dan keadaan ekonomi suatu negara tetapi sangat dipengaruhi oleh sentimen, faktor regional dan global, dan RUMOURS + BANDAR + BOZZ. Just a thought (from stok market amateur). From: Matt Nowo inf...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:17:48 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Kapitalisasi BEI Sependapat. Ulasan yang bagus, mantap dan jelas. Saya tetap percaya bahwa volume dan indeks BEI dapat menjadi SALAH SATU indikator perkembangan ekonomi nasional. Apabila memperhatikan kerangka kebijakan MONETER yang digunakan Bank Indonesia, inflation targeting framework (ITF), salah satu transmisi BI rate dalam mempengaruhi demand side of the economy adalah melalui chanel HARGA ASET keuangan, i.e. BEI. Transmisi melalui channel BEI ini melengkapi channel lainnya (www.bi.go.id) , dan at the edge mempengaruhi sisi demand agar seimbang dengan sisi suply perekonomian yang pada ujungnya mempengaruhi tekanan inflasi. Jadi, imho, tetap penting, apapun kondisinya, setidaknya dapat digunakan sbg proxy. Jika suku bunga BI rate diturunkan, maka seharusnya akan meningkatkan volume dan indeks BEI, ceteris paribus anomali minimal. Just a view from newbie ndeso. Salam Sent from my BearBerry® powered by ISAT TLKM From: Wisdom Stock Trader Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:14:48 -0700 (PDT) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] Kapitalisasi BEI renungan yang dalam dan menarik untuk dibaca. Bagus pak analisis penjelasannya. Apakah sekarang anda masih percaya bahwa INDEKS atau NILAI TRANSAKSI BEI bisa di jadikan sebagai INDIKATOR EKONOMI Nasional kita ? Jawab: SETUJU :) --- On Tue, 8/11/09, brainfuchs brainfu...@gmail. com wrote: From: brainfuchs brainfu...@gmail. com Subject: Re: [ob] Kapitalisasi BEI To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 11:27 AM Menarik Pak Jhony. Mengutip komentar lama dari Om DE: ...are you familiar with IDX market? here in indonesia, the stock market is like 25% investing and 125% gambling. (so that sums up to 150% collateral ratio.. ;) --bf 2009/8/11 Jhony Irawan irawan.jhony@ yahoo.com Dear Millister, Sekedar mau sharing aja. Saya selalu tergelitik setiap kali media memberitakan mengenai Kapitalisasi pasar BEI atau total nilai transaksi per tiap hari uang jumlah nya saya sendiri pusing membayankan banyak nya angka nol di belakang komanya itu, seperti Rp 7 T, Rp 8 T dan rekor awal agustus kemarin yg mencapai Rp 10 T, sebuah nilai yang luar biasa kalau cuma di bayangkan saja. Namun adakah di antara kita yang berfikir apakah uang sebesar itu benar-benar rela money atau hanya angka saja seperti halnya subsidi BBM yg di berikan pemerintah kepada rakyat ? Please correct me if I am wrong, menurut saya angka itu adalah komulatif dari seluruh transaksi yang terjadi per hari. Saya akan sedikit memberi illustrasi : - Kalau saya mempunyai uang Rp 300 juta yang saya bawa untuk ber transaksi saham untuk hari ini, maka kejadiannya bisa saja seperti ini. - Uang Rp 300 juta saya itu begitu market buka, saya akan belikan seluruh nya kepada saham pilihan saya yg tentunya setelah mendengar rumor, dengan target begitu harga naik satu atau dua point saya akan jual. 10 menit setelah market buka perkiraan saya benar, lalu saya melikwidasi saham saya tadi itu dengan harga jual total Rp
Re: [ob] HOTS-POEmS Macet
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