[ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus
Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03
Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus
Tks infonya pak. Mhn dicek kembali EPS nya pak. Sptnya overstated. Tks again Sent from my BearBerry® powered by ISAT TLKM -Original Message- From: -Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:24:09 To: OBobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03
Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus
0.019 us$(eps) --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Matt Nowo inf...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matt Nowo inf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 5:28 PM Tks infonya pak. Mhn dicek kembali EPS nya pak. Sptnya overstated. Tks againSent from my BearBerry® powered by ISAT TLKMFrom: -Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. com Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:24:09 +To: OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03
Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus
Di bagi seribu pak -Original Message- From: Matt Nowo inf...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:28:23 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Tks infonya pak. Mhn dicek kembali EPS nya pak. Sptnya overstated. Tks again Sent from my BearBerry® powered by ISAT TLKM -Original Message- From: -Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:24:09 To: OBobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03
Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus
Based on RTI report, the following were BUMI's EPS (in US$) trend: Q3-2007, = 0.0436 Q3-2008, = 0,0254 Q3-2009, = 0,0190 what is the conclusion???..Kemampuan BUMI mencetak laba dari tahun ke tahun menurun, belum lagi ditambah HUTANG (debt) yang menggunung untuk tahun-tahun ke depan. From: robbie fowler fowlerid...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 8:53:24 AM Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus 0.019 us$(eps) --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com wrote: From: Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 5:28 PM Tks infonya pak. Mhn dicek kembali EPS nya pak. Sptnya overstated. Tks again Sent from my BearBerry® powered by ISAT TLKM From: -Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. com Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:24:09 + To: OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03
RE: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus
Itu bukan EPS tapi per 1000 share. -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of -Candra Wu Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:24 AM To: OB Subject: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03
Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus
Based on RTI report, the following were BUMI's EPS (in US$) trend: Q3-2007, = 0.0436 Q3-2008, = 0,0254 Q3-2009, = 0,0190 what is the conclusion???..Kemampuan BUMI mencetak laba dari tahun ke tahun menurun, belum lagi ditambah HUTANG (debt) yang menggunung untuk tahun-tahun ke depan. From: robbie fowler fowlerid...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 8:53:24 AM Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus 0.019 us$(eps) --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com wrote: From: Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 5:28 PM Tks infonya pak. Mhn dicek kembali EPS nya pak. Sptnya overstated. Tks again Sent from my BearBerry® powered by ISAT TLKM From: -Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. com Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:24:09 + To: OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03
Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus
Yang Paling Menarik dari hasil rilisan data keuangan Q3 2009 ini adalah Effective TaxRate BUMI inevitably kini jadi sama kayak temen2 coal minersnya..., mungkin karena tekanan Kasus kemarin. the tricks no longer played aloud. PreTax Income BUMI hingga Q3 2009 adalah 666,56 Juta Dollar Tax Paid Nya 173,5 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate Q3 09 BUMI 26 % Profil Historikal Tax Rate BUMI sebelumnya unik dan agak beda dengan Coal Miners lainnya PreTax Inc BUMI 2007 854,9 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2007 14.6 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2007 1.7% PreTax Inc BUMI 2008 1032,7 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2008 90 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2008 8.7% sementara profil taxrate Coal Miners lain rata2 sekitar 28-30% sama sesuai taxrate kebanyakan perusahaan. Bukit Asam PreTax 2007 1009 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2007 282.75 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2007 28% Bukit Asam PreTax 2008 2552 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2008 837.06 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2008 32.8% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2007 88 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya Tax Paid 2007 31.62 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2007 35.9% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2008 345.68 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya TaxPaid 2008 110.75 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2008 32% Adaro Energy Pretax 2007 947 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2007 657 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2007 69.3% Adaro Energy Pretax 2008 2925 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2008 1601 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2008 54.7% asumsi treatment akuntansi dan model bisnis serta industri yang serupa. pada jangka panjang mungkin semua coal-miners yang sudah terbuka taxratenya akan berkisar 28-30%. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com wrote: Based on RTI report, the following were BUMI's EPS (in US$) trend: Q3-2007, = 0.0436 Q3-2008, = 0,0254 Q3-2009, = 0,0190 what is the conclusion???..Kemampuan BUMI mencetak laba dari tahun ke tahun menurun, belum lagi ditambah HUTANG (debt) yang menggunung untuk tahun-tahun ke depan. -- *From:* robbie fowler fowlerid...@yahoo.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wed, January 6, 2010 8:53:24 AM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus 0.019 us$(eps) --- On *Tue, 1/5/10, Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com* wrote: From: Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 5:28 PM Tks infonya pak. Mhn dicek kembali EPS nya pak. Sptnya overstated. Tks again Sent from my BearBerry® powered by ISAT TLKM -- *From: *-Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. com *Date: *Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:24:09 + *To: *OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Subject: *[ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03 -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman
Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus
If Sep 09 itu 75% end year 09, brarti harga bumi bisa Rp 3200 an tuh utk full year. wwww ambil kanan On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com wrote: Based on RTI report, the following were BUMI's EPS (in US$) trend: Q3-2007, = 0.0436 Q3-2008, = 0,0254 Q3-2009, = 0,0190 what is the conclusion???..Kemampuan BUMI mencetak laba dari tahun ke tahun menurun, belum lagi ditambah HUTANG (debt) yang menggunung untuk tahun-tahun ke depan. -- *From:* robbie fowler fowlerid...@yahoo.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wed, January 6, 2010 8:53:24 AM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus 0.019 us$(eps) --- On *Tue, 1/5/10, Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com* wrote: From: Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 5:28 PM Tks infonya pak. Mhn dicek kembali EPS nya pak. Sptnya overstated. Tks again Sent from my BearBerry® powered by ISAT TLKM -- *From: *-Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. com *Date: *Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:24:09 + *To: *OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Subject: *[ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03
Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus
Jadi selama ini Coal Miners yang paling bermanfaat bagi Negara ( in term of effective tax rate percentage) sesuai urutan adalah: I. ADRO II. ITMG III. PTBA iv. BUMI From: Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 10:27:09 AM Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Yang Paling Menarik dari hasil rilisan data keuangan Q3 2009 ini adalah Effective TaxRate BUMI inevitably kini jadi sama kayak temen2 coal minersnya... , mungkin karena tekanan Kasus kemarin. the tricks no longer played aloud. PreTax Income BUMI hingga Q3 2009 adalah 666,56 Juta Dollar Tax Paid Nya 173,5 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate Q3 09 BUMI 26 % Profil Historikal Tax Rate BUMI sebelumnya unik dan agak beda dengan Coal Miners lainnya PreTax Inc BUMI 2007 854,9 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2007 14.6 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2007 1.7% PreTax Inc BUMI 2008 1032,7 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2008 90 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2008 8.7% sementara profil taxrate Coal Miners lain rata2 sekitar 28-30% sama sesuai taxrate kebanyakan perusahaan. Bukit Asam PreTax 2007 1009 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2007 282.75 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2007 28% Bukit Asam PreTax 2008 2552 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2008 837.06 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2008 32.8% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2007 88 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya Tax Paid 2007 31.62 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2007 35.9% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2008 345.68 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya TaxPaid 2008 110.75 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2008 32% Adaro Energy Pretax 2007 947 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2007 657 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2007 69.3% Adaro Energy Pretax 2008 2925 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2008 1601 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2008 54.7% asumsi treatment akuntansi dan model bisnis serta industri yang serupa. pada jangka panjang mungkin semua coal-miners yang sudah terbuka taxratenya akan berkisar 28-30%. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo. com wrote: Based on RTI report, the following were BUMI's EPS (in US$) trend: Q3-2007, = 0.0436 Q3-2008, = 0,0254 Q3-2009, = 0,0190 what is the conclusion?? ?..Kemampuan BUMI mencetak laba dari tahun ke tahun menurun, belum lagi ditambah HUTANG (debt) yang menggunung untuk tahun-tahun ke depan. From: robbie fowler fowlerid500@ yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 8:53:24 AM Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus 0.019 us$(eps) --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com wrote: From: Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 5:28 PM Tks infonya pak. Mhn dicek kembali EPS nya pak. Sptnya overstated. Tks again Sent from my BearBerry® powered by ISAT TLKM From: -Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. com Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:24:09 + To: OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03 -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected... The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman
Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus
Jadi BUMI bakal kena bayar Rp 10 trilyun ( hutang pajak + denda ) --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 10:54 PM Jadi selama ini Coal Miners yang paling bermanfaat bagi Negara ( in term of effective tax rate percentage) sesuai urutan adalah: I. ADRO II. ITMG III. PTBA iv. BUMI From: Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure.inc@ gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 10:27:09 AM Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Yang Paling Menarik dari hasil rilisan data keuangan Q3 2009 ini adalah Effective TaxRate BUMI inevitably kini jadi sama kayak temen2 coal minersnya... , mungkin karena tekanan Kasus kemarin. the tricks no longer played aloud. PreTax Income BUMI hingga Q3 2009 adalah 666,56 Juta Dollar Tax Paid Nya 173,5 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate Q3 09 BUMI 26 % Profil Historikal Tax Rate BUMI sebelumnya unik dan agak beda dengan Coal Miners lainnya PreTax Inc BUMI 2007 854,9 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2007 14.6 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2007 1.7% PreTax Inc BUMI 2008 1032,7 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2008 90 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2008 8.7% sementara profil taxrate Coal Miners lain rata2 sekitar 28-30% sama sesuai taxrate kebanyakan perusahaan. Bukit Asam PreTax 2007 1009 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2007 282.75 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2007 28% Bukit Asam PreTax 2008 2552 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2008 837.06 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2008 32.8% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2007 88 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya Tax Paid 2007 31.62 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2007 35.9% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2008 345.68 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya TaxPaid 2008 110.75 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2008 32% Adaro Energy Pretax 2007 947 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2007 657 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2007 69.3% Adaro Energy Pretax 2008 2925 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2008 1601 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2008 54.7% asumsi treatment akuntansi dan model bisnis serta industri yang serupa. pada jangka panjang mungkin semua coal-miners yang sudah terbuka taxratenya akan berkisar 28-30%. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo. com wrote: Based on RTI report, the following were BUMI's EPS (in US$) trend: Q3-2007, = 0.0436 Q3-2008, = 0,0254 Q3-2009, = 0,0190 what is the conclusion?? ?..Kemampuan BUMI mencetak laba dari tahun ke tahun menurun, belum lagi ditambah HUTANG (debt) yang menggunung untuk tahun-tahun ke depan. From: robbie fowler fowlerid500@ yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 8:53:24 AM Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus 0.019 us$(eps) --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com wrote: From: Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 5:28 PM Tks infonya pak. Mhn dicek kembali EPS nya pak. Sptnya overstated. Tks again Sent from my BearBerry® powered by ISAT TLKM From: -Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. com Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:24:09 + To: OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03 -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected... The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman
Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus
bukan ke bermanfaat tapi lebih ke compliance aja kali pak yah. maksudnya pembayaran sesuai proporsi dan kewajibannya. proporsi income tax rate di Indonesia per 2009 adalah 28%, sebelumnya 30%. untuk perusahan bursa kalo gak salah ada tax benefit. tapi implementasinya belun kedengeran sampai sat ini. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com wrote: Jadi selama ini Coal Miners yang paling *bermanfaat bagi Negara* ( in term of effective tax rate percentage) sesuai urutan adalah: I.ADRO II.ITMG III. PTBA iv.BUMI -- *From:* Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wed, January 6, 2010 10:27:09 AM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Yang Paling Menarik dari hasil rilisan data keuangan Q3 2009 ini adalah Effective TaxRate BUMI inevitably kini jadi sama kayak temen2 coal minersnya... , mungkin karena tekanan Kasus kemarin. the tricks no longer played aloud. PreTax Income BUMI hingga Q3 2009 adalah 666,56 Juta Dollar Tax Paid Nya 173,5 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate Q3 09 BUMI 26 % Profil Historikal Tax Rate BUMI sebelumnya unik dan agak beda dengan Coal Miners lainnya PreTax Inc BUMI 2007 854,9 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2007 14.6 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2007 1.7% PreTax Inc BUMI 2008 1032,7 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2008 90 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2008 8.7% sementara profil taxrate Coal Miners lain rata2 sekitar 28-30% sama sesuai taxrate kebanyakan perusahaan. Bukit Asam PreTax 2007 1009 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2007 282.75 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2007 28% Bukit Asam PreTax 2008 2552 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2008 837.06 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2008 32.8% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2007 88 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya Tax Paid 2007 31.62 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2007 35.9% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2008 345.68 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya TaxPaid 2008 110.75 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2008 32% Adaro Energy Pretax 2007 947 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2007 657 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2007 69.3% Adaro Energy Pretax 2008 2925 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2008 1601 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2008 54.7% asumsi treatment akuntansi dan model bisnis serta industri yang serupa. pada jangka panjang mungkin semua coal-miners yang sudah terbuka taxratenya akan berkisar 28-30%. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo. comoenja...@yahoo.com wrote: Based on RTI report, the following were BUMI's EPS (in US$) trend: Q3-2007, = 0.0436 Q3-2008, = 0,0254 Q3-2009, = 0,0190 what is the conclusion?? ?..Kemampuan BUMI mencetak laba dari tahun ke tahun menurun, belum lagi ditambah HUTANG (debt) yang menggunung untuk tahun-tahun ke depan. -- *From:* robbie fowler fowlerid500@ yahoo.com fowlerid...@yahoo.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wed, January 6, 2010 8:53:24 AM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus 0.019 us$(eps) --- On *Tue, 1/5/10, Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com* wrote: From: Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 5:28 PM Tks infonya pak. Mhn dicek kembali EPS nya pak. Sptnya overstated. Tks again Sent from my BearBerry® powered by ISAT TLKM -- *From: *-Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. com *Date: *Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:24:09 + *To: *OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Subject: *[ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03 -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected... The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman
Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus
Mudah2an sih tuduhan penggelapan pajak engga terbukti. tapi untuk ke depannya kita expect TaxRate BUMI akan berada di level wajar sekitar 28-30% an lah. sebagaimana tercermin di Q3 09. jadi comply sesuai peraturan yang berlaku. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:01 AM, simon bolenang simon_bolen...@yahoo.comwrote: Jadi BUMI bakal kena bayar Rp 10 trilyun ( hutang pajak + denda ) --- On *Tue, 1/5/10, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 10:54 PM Jadi selama ini Coal Miners yang paling *bermanfaat bagi Negara* ( in term of effective tax rate percentage) sesuai urutan adalah: I.ADRO II.ITMG III. PTBA iv.BUMI -- *From:* Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure.inc@ gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Sent:* Wed, January 6, 2010 10:27:09 AM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Yang Paling Menarik dari hasil rilisan data keuangan Q3 2009 ini adalah Effective TaxRate BUMI inevitably kini jadi sama kayak temen2 coal minersnya... , mungkin karena tekanan Kasus kemarin. the tricks no longer played aloud. PreTax Income BUMI hingga Q3 2009 adalah 666,56 Juta Dollar Tax Paid Nya 173,5 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate Q3 09 BUMI 26 % Profil Historikal Tax Rate BUMI sebelumnya unik dan agak beda dengan Coal Miners lainnya PreTax Inc BUMI 2007 854,9 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2007 14.6 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2007 1.7% PreTax Inc BUMI 2008 1032,7 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2008 90 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2008 8.7% sementara profil taxrate Coal Miners lain rata2 sekitar 28-30% sama sesuai taxrate kebanyakan perusahaan. Bukit Asam PreTax 2007 1009 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2007 282.75 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2007 28% Bukit Asam PreTax 2008 2552 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2008 837.06 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2008 32.8% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2007 88 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya Tax Paid 2007 31.62 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2007 35.9% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2008 345.68 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya TaxPaid 2008 110.75 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2008 32% Adaro Energy Pretax 2007 947 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2007 657 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2007 69.3% Adaro Energy Pretax 2008 2925 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2008 1601 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2008 54.7% asumsi treatment akuntansi dan model bisnis serta industri yang serupa. pada jangka panjang mungkin semua coal-miners yang sudah terbuka taxratenya akan berkisar 28-30%. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo. comhttp://mc/compose?to=oenja...@yahoo.com wrote: Based on RTI report, the following were BUMI's EPS (in US$) trend: Q3-2007, = 0.0436 Q3-2008, = 0,0254 Q3-2009, = 0,0190 what is the conclusion?? ?..Kemampuan BUMI mencetak laba dari tahun ke tahun menurun, belum lagi ditambah HUTANG (debt) yang menggunung untuk tahun-tahun ke depan. -- *From:* robbie fowler fowlerid500@ yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=fowlerid...@yahoo.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wed, January 6, 2010 8:53:24 AM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus 0.019 us$(eps) --- On *Tue, 1/5/10, Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com* wrote: From: Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 5:28 PM Tks infonya pak. Mhn dicek kembali EPS nya pak. Sptnya overstated. Tks again Sent from my BearBerry® powered by ISAT TLKM -- *From: *-Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. com *Date: *Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:24:09 + *To: *OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Subject: *[ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03 -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected... The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know
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Ya, jika semua perusahaan di Indonesia termasuk Coal miners COMPLY dengan peraturan pajak dan membayar kewajiban pajaknya dengan tepat maka mereka secara langsung atau tidak langsung memberi manfaat bagi Negara. Sent from my XL BlackBerry® Compassion is the best defence against hate. Wisdom is the best defence against delusion. -Original Message- From: Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 11:03:00 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus bukan ke bermanfaat tapi lebih ke compliance aja kali pak yah. maksudnya pembayaran sesuai proporsi dan kewajibannya. proporsi income tax rate di Indonesia per 2009 adalah 28%, sebelumnya 30%. untuk perusahan bursa kalo gak salah ada tax benefit. tapi implementasinya belun kedengeran sampai sat ini. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com wrote: Jadi selama ini Coal Miners yang paling *bermanfaat bagi Negara* ( in term of effective tax rate percentage) sesuai urutan adalah: I.ADRO II.ITMG III. PTBA iv.BUMI -- *From:* Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wed, January 6, 2010 10:27:09 AM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Yang Paling Menarik dari hasil rilisan data keuangan Q3 2009 ini adalah Effective TaxRate BUMI inevitably kini jadi sama kayak temen2 coal minersnya... , mungkin karena tekanan Kasus kemarin. the tricks no longer played aloud. PreTax Income BUMI hingga Q3 2009 adalah 666,56 Juta Dollar Tax Paid Nya 173,5 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate Q3 09 BUMI 26 % Profil Historikal Tax Rate BUMI sebelumnya unik dan agak beda dengan Coal Miners lainnya PreTax Inc BUMI 2007 854,9 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2007 14.6 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2007 1.7% PreTax Inc BUMI 2008 1032,7 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2008 90 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2008 8.7% sementara profil taxrate Coal Miners lain rata2 sekitar 28-30% sama sesuai taxrate kebanyakan perusahaan. Bukit Asam PreTax 2007 1009 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2007 282.75 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2007 28% Bukit Asam PreTax 2008 2552 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2008 837.06 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2008 32.8% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2007 88 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya Tax Paid 2007 31.62 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2007 35.9% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2008 345.68 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya TaxPaid 2008 110.75 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2008 32% Adaro Energy Pretax 2007 947 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2007 657 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2007 69.3% Adaro Energy Pretax 2008 2925 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2008 1601 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2008 54.7% asumsi treatment akuntansi dan model bisnis serta industri yang serupa. pada jangka panjang mungkin semua coal-miners yang sudah terbuka taxratenya akan berkisar 28-30%. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo. comoenja...@yahoo.com wrote: Based on RTI report, the following were BUMI's EPS (in US$) trend: Q3-2007, = 0.0436 Q3-2008, = 0,0254 Q3-2009, = 0,0190 what is the conclusion?? ?..Kemampuan BUMI mencetak laba dari tahun ke tahun menurun, belum lagi ditambah HUTANG (debt) yang menggunung untuk tahun-tahun ke depan. -- *From:* robbie fowler fowlerid500@ yahoo.com fowlerid...@yahoo.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wed, January 6, 2010 8:53:24 AM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus 0.019 us$(eps) --- On *Tue, 1/5/10, Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com* wrote: From: Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 5:28 PM Tks infonya pak. Mhn dicek kembali EPS nya pak. Sptnya overstated. Tks again Sent from my BearBerry® powered by ISAT TLKM -- *From: *-Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. com *Date: *Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:24:09 + *To: *OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Subject: *[ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03 -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected... The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman -- Each
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Boss, Beban Bunga CIC belum dimasukin ke Lap Keu Q3... -Original Message- From: Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 11:04:48 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Mudah2an sih tuduhan penggelapan pajak engga terbukti. tapi untuk ke depannya kita expect TaxRate BUMI akan berada di level wajar sekitar 28-30% an lah. sebagaimana tercermin di Q3 09. jadi comply sesuai peraturan yang berlaku. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:01 AM, simon bolenang simon_bolen...@yahoo.comwrote: Jadi BUMI bakal kena bayar Rp 10 trilyun ( hutang pajak + denda ) --- On *Tue, 1/5/10, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 10:54 PM Jadi selama ini Coal Miners yang paling *bermanfaat bagi Negara* ( in term of effective tax rate percentage) sesuai urutan adalah: I.ADRO II.ITMG III. PTBA iv.BUMI -- *From:* Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure.inc@ gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Sent:* Wed, January 6, 2010 10:27:09 AM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Yang Paling Menarik dari hasil rilisan data keuangan Q3 2009 ini adalah Effective TaxRate BUMI inevitably kini jadi sama kayak temen2 coal minersnya... , mungkin karena tekanan Kasus kemarin. the tricks no longer played aloud. PreTax Income BUMI hingga Q3 2009 adalah 666,56 Juta Dollar Tax Paid Nya 173,5 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate Q3 09 BUMI 26 % Profil Historikal Tax Rate BUMI sebelumnya unik dan agak beda dengan Coal Miners lainnya PreTax Inc BUMI 2007 854,9 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2007 14.6 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2007 1.7% PreTax Inc BUMI 2008 1032,7 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2008 90 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2008 8.7% sementara profil taxrate Coal Miners lain rata2 sekitar 28-30% sama sesuai taxrate kebanyakan perusahaan. Bukit Asam PreTax 2007 1009 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2007 282.75 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2007 28% Bukit Asam PreTax 2008 2552 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2008 837.06 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2008 32.8% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2007 88 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya Tax Paid 2007 31.62 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2007 35.9% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2008 345.68 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya TaxPaid 2008 110.75 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2008 32% Adaro Energy Pretax 2007 947 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2007 657 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2007 69.3% Adaro Energy Pretax 2008 2925 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2008 1601 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2008 54.7% asumsi treatment akuntansi dan model bisnis serta industri yang serupa. pada jangka panjang mungkin semua coal-miners yang sudah terbuka taxratenya akan berkisar 28-30%. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo. comhttp://mc/compose?to=oenja...@yahoo.com wrote: Based on RTI report, the following were BUMI's EPS (in US$) trend: Q3-2007, = 0.0436 Q3-2008, = 0,0254 Q3-2009, = 0,0190 what is the conclusion?? ?..Kemampuan BUMI mencetak laba dari tahun ke tahun menurun, belum lagi ditambah HUTANG (debt) yang menggunung untuk tahun-tahun ke depan. -- *From:* robbie fowler fowlerid500@ yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=fowlerid...@yahoo.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wed, January 6, 2010 8:53:24 AM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus 0.019 us$(eps) --- On *Tue, 1/5/10, Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com* wrote: From: Matt Nowo inf...@gmail. com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 5:28 PM Tks infonya pak. Mhn dicek kembali EPS nya pak. Sptnya overstated. Tks again Sent from my BearBerry® powered by ISAT TLKM -- *From: *-Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. com *Date: *Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:24:09 + *To: *OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Subject: *[ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Kinerja BUMI per Sep 2009: Pendapatan 2.330,24 Laba usaha. 705,36 Laba bersih. 360,22 EPS (US$). 19,03 -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected... The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard
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di Q3 Debt-Like Instrument CIC memang blum kelihatan masuk di laporan arus kas pendanaan, karena di hutang tambahan juga belum masuk neraca. transaksi pelunasan fajar bumi + pendopo juga belum. kalo Obligasi Konversi sama fasilitas Credit Suisse sudah masuk. yang saya penasaran apakah tambahan Pelunasan Pajak 2.1 T yg disebut2 masih akan masuk di Q4. kalo iya berarti Operating CF BUMI atau minimal Pretax Income khusus Q4 tambahan BUMI kudu diatas 250 Juta Dollar supaya Q4 nya laba final tetap diatas 360 Juta Dollar dengan tambahan perhitungan SBB ; Tambahan beban bunga 1 quarter dr Debt-Like instrument CIC sekitar 47-50 Juta Dollar kalo disebut-sebut masih ada sisa tunggakan tahun sebelumnya 211 Juta dollar (kemudian dikatakan sudah diselesaikan di bulan desember 2009) maka nanti akan ada tax charges tambahan yang akan keluar diQ4. ada skenario lain yaitu debt-like instrument CIC akan dikonversi jadi equity. nah kalo itu kasusnya interest charge tambahan gak akan jadi permanen. Namun konsekuensinya. pemegang saham existing akan mengalami dilusi kepemilikan. kuncinya dalah konversi hutang ke ekuitas akan dieksekusi di harga berapa. kalo di harga tinggi minimal setara Requred Rate Of Return dibawah 19% tentunya gakan terlalu jadi masalah buat pemegang saham existing. hanya kalo CIC minta lagi minumum IRR setara 19% asumsi Required Return 19% maka harga eksekusi konversi akan berada di kisaran Rp 1580. win-win nya kalo konversi Debt-like instrument ke equity dieksekusi di Required Return sekitar 12.5-13% atau setara Rp 2076-2160. mudah2an sih manajemen ambil kebijakan yang terbaik buat semua pemegang saham perseroan. (terutama pemegang saham publik) On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM, ruzli...@gmail.com wrote: Boss, Beban Bunga CIC belum dimasukin ke Lap Keu Q3... -- *From: *Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com *Date: *Wed, 6 Jan 2010 11:04:48 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Mudah2an sih tuduhan penggelapan pajak engga terbukti. tapi untuk ke depannya kita expect TaxRate BUMI akan berada di level wajar sekitar 28-30% an lah. sebagaimana tercermin di Q3 09. jadi comply sesuai peraturan yang berlaku. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:01 AM, simon bolenang simon_bolen...@yahoo.comwrote: Jadi BUMI bakal kena bayar Rp 10 trilyun ( hutang pajak + denda ) --- On *Tue, 1/5/10, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 10:54 PM Jadi selama ini Coal Miners yang paling *bermanfaat bagi Negara* ( in term of effective tax rate percentage) sesuai urutan adalah: I.ADRO II.ITMG III. PTBA iv.BUMI -- *From:* Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure.inc@ gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Sent:* Wed, January 6, 2010 10:27:09 AM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Laba bersih BUMI melampaui konsensus Yang Paling Menarik dari hasil rilisan data keuangan Q3 2009 ini adalah Effective TaxRate BUMI inevitably kini jadi sama kayak temen2 coal minersnya... , mungkin karena tekanan Kasus kemarin. the tricks no longer played aloud. PreTax Income BUMI hingga Q3 2009 adalah 666,56 Juta Dollar Tax Paid Nya 173,5 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate Q3 09 BUMI 26 % Profil Historikal Tax Rate BUMI sebelumnya unik dan agak beda dengan Coal Miners lainnya PreTax Inc BUMI 2007 854,9 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2007 14.6 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2007 1.7% PreTax Inc BUMI 2008 1032,7 Juta Dollar Tax Paid 2008 90 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate BUMI 2008 8.7% sementara profil taxrate Coal Miners lain rata2 sekitar 28-30% sama sesuai taxrate kebanyakan perusahaan. Bukit Asam PreTax 2007 1009 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2007 282.75 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2007 28% Bukit Asam PreTax 2008 2552 Milyar Rupiah Bukit Asam Tax Paid 2008 837.06 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Bukit Asam 2008 32.8% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2007 88 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya Tax Paid 2007 31.62 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2007 35.9% Indo Tambang Raya PreTax 2008 345.68 Juta Dollar Indo Tambang Raya TaxPaid 2008 110.75 Juta Dollar Effective Tax Rate IndoTambangRaya 2008 32% Adaro Energy Pretax 2007 947 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2007 657 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2007 69.3% Adaro Energy Pretax 2008 2925 Milyar Rupiah Adaro Energy Tax Paid 2008 1601 Milyar Rupiah Effective Tax Rate Adaro Energy 2008 54.7% asumsi treatment akuntansi dan model bisnis serta industri yang serupa. pada jangka panjang mungkin semua coal-miners yang sudah terbuka taxratenya akan berkisar 28-30%. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo. comhttp://mc/compose?to=oenja...@yahoo.com wrote: Based on RTI report
