RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?

2007-09-13 Terurut Topik Eka Suwandana
Sepertinya the fed fund rate tetap! Saya lagi taruhan
sama teman. Saya pikir pertama market DJ akan turun
dulu karena kecewa. Utk IHSG juga sama cuma kalo turun
IHSG saya langsung beli cicil.

Kalo baca artikel jeremy siegel justru kalo the fed
nggak turun akan bagus utk saham jangka panjang. 



--- HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 kita taruhan aja yuk, siapa aja yg pegang NAIK,
 siapa
 yg TURUN, siapa yg TETAP?
 
 
 
 --- JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yang bagus mungkin ngga naik ngga turun kali Pak.
  kira2 ada ngga opsi
  lain selain naikin atau turunin fed rate?
   
  -Original Message-
  From: James Arifin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Sent: 12 September 2007 11:35
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
   
  nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik
  salah turun salah.
   
  Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit
  perdagangan mungkin mengecil
  tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus indeks
  ikutan bearish lagi
  karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya
 dari
  historical tiap Fed
  rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED
 hingga
  1% memangnya US
  langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own
  movement 
  
   
  On 9/12/07, HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
  iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi fundamental
  ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun,
  inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit perdagangan
  makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan
  Yen)
  makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik,
 Akhirnya
  Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. 
  
  --- Eka Suwandana  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com 
  wrote:
  
   Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. 
   
   James Arifin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com  wrote: 
   Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka
  US
   ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga
   ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change
  isn't
   it
   
   On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com 
   wrote: ambruk kayaknya! 
   
   James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com
   wrote: 
   terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan 
   ambruk juga ... heheheh
   
   On 9/11/07, HS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com   wrote: 
   
   iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas..
   
   --- Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com
   wrote:
   
The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik!
--- HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com
   wrote:

 kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja
   sambil
 liatin us ambruk
 
 --- Siswantoro, Dodik  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:kidod25%40yahoo.com 
   wrote:
 
  Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan
turunkan
  rate
  tapi emang turun tipis sih: 
  
  1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan
  jadi
   
 5,15%
  
  2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar
  futures
 traded
  on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange
   diestimasikan
  jadi
  5,14% 
  
  Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis
  point?? 
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
   
  
 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?

2007-09-13 Terurut Topik gambler
Cepat atau lambat yg ngeshort toh harus beli balik untuk mengcover 
short-annya betul?


...
- Original Message - 
From: Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:11 PM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?


 Sepertinya the fed fund rate tetap! Saya lagi taruhan
 sama teman. Saya pikir pertama market DJ akan turun
 dulu karena kecewa. Utk IHSG juga sama cuma kalo turun
 IHSG saya langsung beli cicil.

 Kalo baca artikel jeremy siegel justru kalo the fed
 nggak turun akan bagus utk saham jangka panjang.



 --- HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 kita taruhan aja yuk, siapa aja yg pegang NAIK,
 siapa
 yg TURUN, siapa yg TETAP?



 --- JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Yang bagus mungkin ngga naik ngga turun kali Pak.
  kira2 ada ngga opsi
  lain selain naikin atau turunin fed rate?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: James Arifin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Sent: 12 September 2007 11:35
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
 
  nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik
  salah turun salah.
 
  Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit
  perdagangan mungkin mengecil
  tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus indeks
  ikutan bearish lagi
  karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya
 dari
  historical tiap Fed
  rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED
 hingga
  1% memangnya US
  langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own
  movement
 
 
  On 9/12/07, HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi fundamental
  ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun,
  inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit perdagangan
  makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan
  Yen)
  makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik,
 Akhirnya
  Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish..
 
  --- Eka Suwandana  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com 
  wrote:
 
   Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu.
  
   James Arifin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com  wrote:
   Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka
  US
   ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga
   ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change
  isn't
   it
  
   On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com 
   wrote: ambruk kayaknya!
  
   James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com
   wrote:
   terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan
   ambruk juga ... heheheh
  
   On 9/11/07, HS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com   wrote:
  
   iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas..
  
   --- Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com
   wrote:
  
The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik!
--- HS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com
   wrote:
   
 kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja
   sambil
 liatin us ambruk

 --- Siswantoro, Dodik  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:kidod25%40yahoo.com 
   wrote:

  Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan
turunkan
  rate
  tapi emang turun tipis sih:
 
  1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan
  jadi
  
 5,15%
 
  2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar
  futures
 traded
  on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange
   diestimasikan
  jadi
  5,14%
 
  Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis
  point??
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

   
  
 

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?

2007-09-13 Terurut Topik HS

Saya setuju kalo fed nggak turun akan bgs utk jangka
panjang. kalo fed turun akan bgs dlm jangka pendek dan
jelek utk jangka panjang.

Perkiraan saya sendiri fed akan naik atau minimal
tetap karena walau kep ini tdk populis, fed kan pasti
pikir panjang utk negaranya, bkn utk jangka pendek,
kec kalo ditunggangi sec politis utk meningkatkan
citra pemerintah skrg dan menghancurkan presiden
berikutnya.


--- Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sepertinya the fed fund rate tetap! Saya lagi
 taruhan
 sama teman. Saya pikir pertama market DJ akan turun
 dulu karena kecewa. Utk IHSG juga sama cuma kalo
 turun
 IHSG saya langsung beli cicil.
 
 Kalo baca artikel jeremy siegel justru kalo the fed
 nggak turun akan bagus utk saham jangka panjang. 
 
 
 
 --- HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  kita taruhan aja yuk, siapa aja yg pegang NAIK,
  siapa
  yg TURUN, siapa yg TETAP?
  
  
  
  --- JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Yang bagus mungkin ngga naik ngga turun kali
 Pak.
   kira2 ada ngga opsi
   lain selain naikin atau turunin fed rate?

   -Original Message-
   From: James Arifin
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Sent: 12 September 2007 11:35
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!

   nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik
   salah turun salah.

   Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit
   perdagangan mungkin mengecil
   tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus
 indeks
   ikutan bearish lagi
   karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya
  dari
   historical tiap Fed
   rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED
  hingga
   1% memangnya US
   langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own
   movement 
   

   On 9/12/07, HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   
   iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi
 fundamental
   ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun,
   inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit
 perdagangan
   makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan
   Yen)
   makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik,
  Akhirnya
   Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. 
   
   --- Eka Suwandana  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com 
   wrote:
   
Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. 

James Arifin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com  wrote: 
Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun
 maka
   US
ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun
 juga
ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change
   isn't
it

On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com 
wrote: ambruk kayaknya! 

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com
wrote: 
terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga
 akan 
ambruk juga ... heheheh

On 9/11/07, HS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com   wrote: 

iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu
 amblas..

--- Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com
wrote:

 The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik!
 --- HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com
wrote:
 
  kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja
sambil
  liatin us ambruk
  
  --- Siswantoro, Dodik 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:kidod25%40yahoo.com 
wrote:
  
   Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan
 turunkan
   rate
   tapi emang turun tipis sih: 
   
   1. Menurut Futures contract
 diestimasikan
   jadi

  5,15%
   
   2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar
   futures
  traded
   on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange
diestimasikan
   jadi
   5,14% 
   
   Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis
   point?? 
   
   
   
   
   
   
  
  

   
  
 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?

2007-09-13 Terurut Topik Karno
Kalo sampe selasa DJ jeblok abis, baru pasti turun.
  - Original Message - 
  From: HS 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:05 PM
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?



  Saya setuju kalo fed nggak turun akan bgs utk jangka
  panjang. kalo fed turun akan bgs dlm jangka pendek dan
  jelek utk jangka panjang.

  Perkiraan saya sendiri fed akan naik atau minimal
  tetap karena walau kep ini tdk populis, fed kan pasti
  pikir panjang utk negaranya, bkn utk jangka pendek,
  kec kalo ditunggangi sec politis utk meningkatkan
  citra pemerintah skrg dan menghancurkan presiden
  berikutnya.

  --- Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Sepertinya the fed fund rate tetap! Saya lagi
   taruhan
   sama teman. Saya pikir pertama market DJ akan turun
   dulu karena kecewa. Utk IHSG juga sama cuma kalo
   turun
   IHSG saya langsung beli cicil.
   
   Kalo baca artikel jeremy siegel justru kalo the fed
   nggak turun akan bagus utk saham jangka panjang. 
   
   
   
   --- HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

kita taruhan aja yuk, siapa aja yg pegang NAIK,
siapa
yg TURUN, siapa yg TETAP?



--- JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yang bagus mungkin ngga naik ngga turun kali
   Pak.
 kira2 ada ngga opsi
 lain selain naikin atau turunin fed rate?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Arifin
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: 12 September 2007 11:35
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
 
 nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik
 salah turun salah.
 
 Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit
 perdagangan mungkin mengecil
 tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus
   indeks
 ikutan bearish lagi
 karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya
dari
 historical tiap Fed
 rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED
hingga
 1% memangnya US
 langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own
 movement 
 
 
 On 9/12/07, HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi
   fundamental
 ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun,
 inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit
   perdagangan
 makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan
 Yen)
 makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik,
Akhirnya
 Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. 
 
 --- Eka Suwandana  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 
  Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. 
  
  James Arifin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com  wrote: 
  Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun
   maka
 US
  ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun
   juga
  ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change
 isn't
  it
  
  On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com 
  wrote: ambruk kayaknya! 
  
  James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com
  wrote: 
  terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga
   akan 
  ambruk juga ... heheheh
  
  On 9/11/07, HS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com  wrote: 
  
  iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu
   amblas..
  
  --- Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com
  wrote:
  
   The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik!
   --- HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com
  wrote:
   
kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja
  sambil
liatin us ambruk

--- Siswantoro, Dodik 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:kidod25%40yahoo.com 
  wrote:

 Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan
   turunkan
 rate
 tapi emang turun tipis sih: 
 
 1. Menurut Futures contract
   diestimasikan
 jadi
  
5,15%
 
 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar
 futures
traded
 on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange
  diestimasikan
 jadi
 5,14% 
 
 Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis
 point?? 
 
 
 
 
 
 


  
 

   
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?

2007-09-13 Terurut Topik Knight
IMHO, FED kemungkina besar turun tipis, but gak ngaruh ke DJI
Yg jelas DJI dinaikin dulu sebelum FED di umumkan
JCI melempem


On 9/13/07, Karno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Kalo sampe selasa DJ jeblok abis, baru pasti turun.

 - Original Message -
 *From:* HS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:05 PM
 *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?


 Saya setuju kalo fed nggak turun akan bgs utk jangka
 panjang. kalo fed turun akan bgs dlm jangka pendek dan
 jelek utk jangka panjang.

 Perkiraan saya sendiri fed akan naik atau minimal
 tetap karena walau kep ini tdk populis, fed kan pasti
 pikir panjang utk negaranya, bkn utk jangka pendek,
 kec kalo ditunggangi sec politis utk meningkatkan
 citra pemerintah skrg dan menghancurkan presiden
 berikutnya.

 --- Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED] esuwandan%40yahoo.com wrote:

  Sepertinya the fed fund rate tetap! Saya lagi
  taruhan
  sama teman. Saya pikir pertama market DJ akan turun
  dulu karena kecewa. Utk IHSG juga sama cuma kalo
  turun
  IHSG saya langsung beli cicil.
 
  Kalo baca artikel jeremy siegel justru kalo the fed
  nggak turun akan bagus utk saham jangka panjang.
 
 
 
  --- HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] handokosatria%40yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
   kita taruhan aja yuk, siapa aja yg pegang NAIK,
   siapa
   yg TURUN, siapa yg TETAP?
  
  
  
   --- JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] eming%40cbn.net.id wrote:
  
Yang bagus mungkin ngga naik ngga turun kali
  Pak.
kira2 ada ngga opsi
lain selain naikin atau turunin fed rate?
   
-Original Message-
From: James Arifin
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] james.arifin%40gmail.com]
  
Sent: 12 September 2007 11:35
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
   
nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik
salah turun salah.
   
Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit
perdagangan mungkin mengecil
tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus
  indeks
ikutan bearish lagi
karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya
   dari
historical tiap Fed
rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED
   hingga
1% memangnya US
langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own
movement
   
   
On 9/12/07, HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] handokosatria%40yahoo.com
 wrote:
   
iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi
  fundamental
ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun,
inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit
  perdagangan
makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan
Yen)
makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik,
   Akhirnya
Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish..
   
--- Eka Suwandana  [EMAIL PROTECTED] esuwandan%40yahoo.com
mailto:esuwandan% esuwandan%2540yahoo.com 
wrote:
   
 Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu.

 James Arifin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] james.arifin%40gmail.com
mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com  wrote:
 Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun
  maka
US
 ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun
  juga
 ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change
isn't
 it

 On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED]esuwandan%40yahoo.com
mailto:esuwandan% esuwandan%2540yahoo.com 
 wrote: ambruk kayaknya!

 James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] james.arifin%40gmail.com
mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com
 wrote:
 terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga
  akan
 ambruk juga ... heheheh

 On 9/11/07, HS [EMAIL PROTECTED]handokosatria%40yahoo.com
mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com  wrote:

 iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu
  amblas..

 --- Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED] esuwandan%40yahoo.com
mailto:esuwandan% esuwandan%2540yahoo.com
 wrote:

  The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik!
  --- HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] handokosatria%40yahoo.com
mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
   kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja
 sambil
   liatin us ambruk
  
   --- Siswantoro, Dodik 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] kidod25%40yahoo.com
mailto:kidod25% kidod25%2540yahoo.com 
 wrote:
  
Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan
  turunkan
rate
tapi emang turun tipis sih:
   
1. Menurut Futures contract
  diestimasikan
jadi

   5,15%
   
2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar
futures
   traded
on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange
 diestimasikan
jadi
5,14%
   
Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis
point??
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  
 

   
  
 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?

2007-09-12 Terurut Topik HS

kita taruhan aja yuk, siapa aja yg pegang NAIK, siapa
yg TURUN, siapa yg TETAP?



--- JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yang bagus mungkin ngga naik ngga turun kali Pak.
 kira2 ada ngga opsi
 lain selain naikin atau turunin fed rate?
  
 -Original Message-
 From: James Arifin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 12 September 2007 11:35
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
  
 nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik
 salah turun salah.
  
 Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit
 perdagangan mungkin mengecil
 tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus indeks
 ikutan bearish lagi
 karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya dari
 historical tiap Fed
 rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED hingga
 1% memangnya US
 langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own
 movement 
 
  
 On 9/12/07, HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi fundamental
 ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun,
 inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit perdagangan
 makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan
 Yen)
 makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik, Akhirnya
 Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. 
 
 --- Eka Suwandana  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 
  Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. 
  
  James Arifin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com  wrote: 
  Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka
 US
  ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga
  ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change
 isn't
  it
  
  On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com 
  wrote: ambruk kayaknya! 
  
  James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com
  wrote: 
  terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan 
  ambruk juga ... heheheh
  
  On 9/11/07, HS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com   wrote: 
  
  iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas..
  
  --- Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com
  wrote:
  
   The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik!
   --- HS [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com
  wrote:
   
kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja
  sambil
liatin us ambruk

--- Siswantoro, Dodik  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:kidod25%40yahoo.com 
  wrote:

 Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan
   turunkan
 rate
 tapi emang turun tipis sih: 
 
 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan
 jadi
  
5,15%
 
 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar
 futures
traded
 on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange
  diestimasikan
 jadi
 5,14% 
 
 Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis
 point?? 
 
 
 
 
 
 


  
 

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