[obrolan-bandar] Market Info SP
Berhubung IPOT lagi merah, saya mau buka SP Market Info. Tapi lama nunggu setelah masukin login, gak nongol2, apa SP Market Info sudah ditutup?
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gak tuh pak, ini saya lagi pake ,emang sekarang yg nyalain server suka suka ati :D, jam 9.3x baru bisa login , tapi bisa sih ini pak , tadi ngadat pas bumi naik kenceng, tapi mungkin juga karena indosatnya lagi juellleee :D gunawan 2009/2/10 ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com Berhubung IPOT lagi merah, saya mau buka SP Market Info. Tapi lama nunggu setelah masukin login, gak nongol2, apa SP Market Info sudah ditutup?
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Saya masih jalan. Bumi dah 720 euy 2009/2/10 ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com Berhubung IPOT lagi merah, saya mau buka SP Market Info. Tapi lama nunggu setelah masukin login, gak nongol2, apa SP Market Info sudah ditutup?
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Lancar aja market infonya. On 2/10/09, pram pramad...@gmail.com wrote: Saya masih jalan. Bumi dah 720 euy 2009/2/10 ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com Berhubung IPOT lagi merah, saya mau buka SP Market Info. Tapi lama nunggu setelah masukin login, gak nongol2, apa SP Market Info sudah ditutup?
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Masih jalan Pak, hari ini saya masih bisa buka SP Market Info. --- On Tue, 10/2/09, ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com wrote: From: ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market Info SP To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 10 February, 2009, 3:06 PM Berhubung IPOT lagi merah, saya mau buka SP Market Info. Tapi lama nunggu setelah masukin login, gak nongol2, apa SP Market Info sudah ditutup? Get your preferred Email name! Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail.com http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/sg/
[obrolan-bandar] Market Tips: Don’t Give Up on Emerging Markets
Market Tips: Don’t Give Up on Emerging Markets http://www.cnbc.com/id/28808406 As dominant global stock markets continued to decline Friday, are emerging markets better places for investors to put their money? Experts interviewed on CNBC believe so. Emerging Markets Are Attractive Although economies in emerging markets are slowing down, Stefan Hofer, emerging markets strategist at Julius Baer still sees opportunities there. He tells CNBC where money can be made. Investing in Indonesia There are some very good mid- to long-term opportunities emerging in Indonesia, particularly in natural resources and infrastructure, says Gita Wirjawan, co-chairman of Ancora Capital. Thailand Looks Attractive Despite the political uncertainty plaguing Thailand, this market looks attractive to Mark Fuchs, CEO of Fuchs Capital Partners. He reveals how he is investing there. Negative on Australian Stocks Matt Martin, institutional sales trader at Wilson HTM is negative on Australian stocks as he thinks its economic outlook is going to deteriorate further. Sorting the Bites from the Bits The day of reckoning has arrived, says Diane Garnick, investment strategist at Invesco, where not every technology company is going to do well. She tells CNBC how to separate the wheat from the chaff. Hold on Sony Sony needs to speed up its restructuring process in order to turn the firm around, says Kota Ezawa, analyst at Nikko Citigroup, after it shocked markets with an operating loss forecast of $2.9 billion. He tells CNBC why he has a hold on Sony. © 2009 CNBC.com
[obrolan-bandar] Market kita kurang gairah padahal regional mendukung
Index Dow naik 3% lebih, Hangseng dan Nikkei ijo, Dow future ijo dan minyak udah naik lagi ke level US$ 43. Tapi market kita masih malu2 untuk naik, valuenya juga baru setengah Trilion Rupiah. Kalo Eropa nanti jam 3 dibuka ijo juga tapi market kita masih lemot kayak gini... mending tidur dulu deh :)
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market kita kurang gairah padahal regional mendukung
Setelah banyak yg pules baru mesinnya dijalankan sepertinya Pak :) Salam, --- On Thu, 1/22/09, agoes_htm agoes_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: agoes_htm agoes_...@yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market kita kurang gairah padahal regional mendukung To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 7:20 AM Index Dow naik 3% lebih, Hangseng dan Nikkei ijo, Dow future ijo dan minyak udah naik lagi ke level US$ 43. Tapi market kita masih malu2 untuk naik, valuenya juga baru setengah Trilion Rupiah. Kalo Eropa nanti jam 3 dibuka ijo juga tapi market kita masih lemot kayak gini... mending tidur dulu deh :) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market kita kurang gairah padahal regional mendukung
market turun banyak kita juga gak bergairah pada jual2an udah mati rasa..kalo ditanya regioanal kenapa market di indo ga ikutan panik selling..bilang aja time to invest...kurangin trading..cape liatin monitor cuma diem doang Dario Amran --- Pada Kam, 22/1/09, Kabu Nusi megasho...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: Kabu Nusi megasho...@yahoo.com Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market kita kurang gairah padahal regional mendukung Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 22 Januari, 2009, 2:22 PM Setelah banyak yg pules baru mesinnya dijalankan sepertinya Pak :) Salam, --- On Thu, 1/22/09, agoes_htm agoes_...@yahoo. com wrote: From: agoes_htm agoes_...@yahoo. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market kita kurang gairah padahal regional mendukung To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 7:20 AM Index Dow naik 3% lebih, Hangseng dan Nikkei ijo, Dow future ijo dan minyak udah naik lagi ke level US$ 43. Tapi market kita masih malu2 untuk naik, valuenya juga baru setengah Trilion Rupiah. Kalo Eropa nanti jam 3 dibuka ijo juga tapi market kita masih lemot kayak gini... mending tidur dulu deh :) - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links ___ Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru. Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET IS ALWAYS RIGHT
menurut saya market sudah overbougth, cuma kok masih ada ya saham yang AR atas ..? mbah konsep PIG nya lagi dijalanin sama si BOZZ nih.. gimana mbah..? PIG = pasar itu gila http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/8321264.html HEHEHE... artomoro9 DISCLAIMER ON - Sikap Peduli Lingkungan? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers!
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yg ar atas apa bos sahamnya? artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id wrote: menurut saya market sudah overbougth, cuma kok masih ada ya saham yang AR atas ..? mbah konsep PIG nya lagi dijalanin sama si BOZZ nih.. gimana mbah..? PIG = pasar itu gila http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/8321264.html HEHEHE... artomoro9 DISCLAIMER ON - Sikap Peduli Lingkungan? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers!
[obrolan-bandar] Market butuh trigger dari DOW ....
Sepertinya market butuh trigger dari DOW nanti malam nih, kalo nggak ada, rasanya berat banget pengen ngangkat lagi, as well as regional.
[obrolan-bandar] Market buka besok cek www.idx.co.id
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market buka besok cek www.idx.co.id
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[obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..?
Jeblok 10%, Transaksi Saham BEI Tidak Disuspensi http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2008/10/06/152403/1016049/6/jeblok-10-t\ ransaksi-saham-bei-tidak-disuspensi Jakarta - Saham-saham di Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI) terus berguguran mencapai dasar terendah di tahun ini. Meski Indeks Harga Saham Gabungan (IHSG) telah jebok 10%, otoritas BEI tidak menghentikan transaksi. Pada perdagangan saham sesi II, Senin (6/10/2008) pukul 15.04 WIB, IHSG terjun hingga 187,489 poin atau 10,23% ke level 1.645,018. Penurunan IHSG ini merupakan yang terburuk di bursa Asia. Bursa kawasan rata-rata hanya turun 4-5% seperti Hang Seng turun 4,41%, Seoul turun 4,29%, Nikkei turun 4,25%, Shanghai turun 5,21%, STI Singapura turun 4,07%. IHSG mengalami penurunan tajam karena imbas krisis di AS, pelemahan rupiah yang tidak terbendung ke level 9.575 per dolar AS dan naiknya angka inflasi September menjadi 0,97% dibanding Agustus 0,51%. Dirut BEI Erry Firmansyah mengatakan pihaknya belum akan melakukan suspensi perdagangan saham meski IHSG telah anjlok hingga 10%. Belum tahu, masih kami tinjau perkembangan selanjutnya. Sejauh ini belum ada rencana, ujar Erry ketika dihubungi, Senin (6/10/2008). Menurut Erry tidak ada ketentuan hingga penurunan level berapa transaksi saham harus dihentikan. Secara peraturan tidak ada ketentuan angkanya, tergantung hasil pengamatan nanti, katanya. Sementara Ketua Badan Pengawas Pasar Modal dan Lembaga Keuangan (Bapepam LK) Fuad Rahmany mengatakan penurunan IHSG yang lebih dari 5% ini karena pasar merefleksikan penurunan yang harusnya terjadi pada saat libur lebaran. Karena kita kan selama hampir seminggu nggak ada trading. Jadi biasa lah market akan mendiskon awal sesi pertama ini. Tapi mereka melakukan adjusment karena market itu kan sangat rasional. Ini karena kita sudah lima hari, yang lain kan sudah turun-turun, jelasnya. Rasional MATAMU...!!!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? = market is rational :D
memang rasional koq.. nilai wajar bumi itu 1500 aja, ptba 6000, inco 1500, antm 700, tins 800, aali 7000, sgro 1000, lsip 2000 believe it or not up2u.. salam, non-yangkuter... :)) --- On Mon, 10/6/08, y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:07 AM Jeblok 10%, Transaksi Saham BEI Tidak Disuspensi http://www.detikfin ance.com/ read/2008/ 10/06/152403/ 1016049/6/ jeblok-10- transaksi- saham-bei- tidak-disuspensi Jakarta - Saham-saham di Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI) terus berguguran mencapai dasar terendah di tahun ini. Meski Indeks Harga Saham Gabungan (IHSG) telah jebok 10%, otoritas BEI tidak menghentikan transaksi. Pada perdagangan saham sesi II, Senin (6/10/2008) pukul 15.04 WIB, IHSG terjun hingga 187,489 poin atau 10,23% ke level 1.645,018. Penurunan IHSG ini merupakan yang terburuk di bursa Asia. Bursa kawasan rata-rata hanya turun 4-5% seperti Hang Seng turun 4,41%, Seoul turun 4,29%, Nikkei turun 4,25%, Shanghai turun 5,21%, STI Singapura turun 4,07%. IHSG mengalami penurunan tajam karena imbas krisis di AS, pelemahan rupiah yang tidak terbendung ke level 9.575 per dolar AS dan naiknya angka inflasi September menjadi 0,97% dibanding Agustus 0,51%. Dirut BEI Erry Firmansyah mengatakan pihaknya belum akan melakukan suspensi perdagangan saham meski IHSG telah anjlok hingga 10%. Belum tahu, masih kami tinjau perkembangan selanjutnya. Sejauh ini belum ada rencana, ujar Erry ketika dihubungi, Senin (6/10/2008). Menurut Erry tidak ada ketentuan hingga penurunan level berapa transaksi saham harus dihentikan. Secara peraturan tidak ada ketentuan angkanya, tergantung hasil pengamatan nanti, katanya. Sementara Ketua Badan Pengawas Pasar Modal dan Lembaga Keuangan (Bapepam LK) Fuad Rahmany mengatakan penurunan IHSG yang lebih dari 5% ini karena pasar merefleksikan penurunan yang harusnya terjadi pada saat libur lebaran. Karena kita kan selama hampir seminggu nggak ada trading. Jadi biasa lah market akan mendiskon awal sesi pertama ini. Tapi mereka melakukan adjusment karena market itu kan sangat rasional. Ini karena kita sudah lima hari, yang lain kan sudah turun-turun, jelasnya. Rasional MATAMU...!!!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? = market is rational :D
Yaelah megang cash aja bangga banget..hehe.. Regards, DE Pada 6 Oktober 2008 17:23, ki_4ever888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: memang rasional koq.. nilai wajar bumi itu 1500 aja, ptba 6000, inco 1500, antm 700, tins 800, aali 7000, sgro 1000, lsip 2000 believe it or not up2u.. salam, non-yangkuter... :)) --- On *Mon, 10/6/08, y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:07 AM Jeblok 10%, Transaksi Saham BEI Tidak Disuspensi http://www.detikfin ance.com/ read/2008/ 10/06/152403/ 1016049/6/ jeblok-10- transaksi- saham-bei- tidak-disuspensi Jakarta - Saham-saham di Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI) terus berguguran mencapai dasar terendah di tahun ini. Meski Indeks Harga Saham Gabungan (IHSG) telah jebok 10%, otoritas BEI tidak menghentikan transaksi. Pada perdagangan saham sesi II, Senin (6/10/2008) pukul 15.04 WIB, IHSG terjun hingga 187,489 poin atau 10,23% ke level 1.645,018. Penurunan IHSG ini merupakan yang terburuk di bursa Asia. Bursa kawasan rata-rata hanya turun 4-5% seperti Hang Seng turun 4,41%, Seoul turun 4,29%, Nikkei turun 4,25%, Shanghai turun 5,21%, STI Singapura turun 4,07%. IHSG mengalami penurunan tajam karena imbas krisis di AS, pelemahan rupiah yang tidak terbendung ke level 9.575 per dolar AS dan naiknya angka inflasi September menjadi 0,97% dibanding Agustus 0,51%. Dirut BEI Erry Firmansyah mengatakan pihaknya belum akan melakukan suspensi perdagangan saham meski IHSG telah anjlok hingga 10%. Belum tahu, masih kami tinjau perkembangan selanjutnya. Sejauh ini belum ada rencana, ujar Erry ketika dihubungi, Senin (6/10/2008). Menurut Erry tidak ada ketentuan hingga penurunan level berapa transaksi saham harus dihentikan. Secara peraturan tidak ada ketentuan angkanya, tergantung hasil pengamatan nanti, katanya. Sementara Ketua Badan Pengawas Pasar Modal dan Lembaga Keuangan (Bapepam LK) Fuad Rahmany mengatakan penurunan IHSG yang lebih dari 5% ini karena pasar merefleksikan penurunan yang harusnya terjadi pada saat libur lebaran. Karena kita kan selama hampir seminggu nggak ada trading. Jadi biasa lah market akan mendiskon awal sesi pertama ini. Tapi mereka melakukan adjusment karena* market itu kan sangat rasional*. Ini karena kita sudah lima hari, yang lain kan sudah turun-turun, jelasnya. *Rasional MATAMU...!!!*
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? = market is rational :D
Pak DE, Masih hold apa udah out semua pak? Trims. 2008/10/6 Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yaelah megang cash aja bangga banget..hehe.. Regards, DE Pada 6 Oktober 2008 17:23, ki_4ever888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: memang rasional koq.. nilai wajar bumi itu 1500 aja, ptba 6000, inco 1500, antm 700, tins 800, aali 7000, sgro 1000, lsip 2000 believe it or not up2u.. salam, non-yangkuter... :)) --- On *Mon, 10/6/08, y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:07 AM Jeblok 10%, Transaksi Saham BEI Tidak Disuspensi http://www.detikfin ance.com/ read/2008/ 10/06/152403/ 1016049/6/ jeblok-10- transaksi- saham-bei- tidak-disuspensi Jakarta - Saham-saham di Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI) terus berguguran mencapai dasar terendah di tahun ini. Meski Indeks Harga Saham Gabungan (IHSG) telah jebok 10%, otoritas BEI tidak menghentikan transaksi. Pada perdagangan saham sesi II, Senin (6/10/2008) pukul 15.04 WIB, IHSG terjun hingga 187,489 poin atau 10,23% ke level 1.645,018. Penurunan IHSG ini merupakan yang terburuk di bursa Asia. Bursa kawasan rata-rata hanya turun 4-5% seperti Hang Seng turun 4,41%, Seoul turun 4,29%, Nikkei turun 4,25%, Shanghai turun 5,21%, STI Singapura turun 4,07%. IHSG mengalami penurunan tajam karena imbas krisis di AS, pelemahan rupiah yang tidak terbendung ke level 9.575 per dolar AS dan naiknya angka inflasi September menjadi 0,97% dibanding Agustus 0,51%. Dirut BEI Erry Firmansyah mengatakan pihaknya belum akan melakukan suspensi perdagangan saham meski IHSG telah anjlok hingga 10%. Belum tahu, masih kami tinjau perkembangan selanjutnya. Sejauh ini belum ada rencana, ujar Erry ketika dihubungi, Senin (6/10/2008). Menurut Erry tidak ada ketentuan hingga penurunan level berapa transaksi saham harus dihentikan. Secara peraturan tidak ada ketentuan angkanya, tergantung hasil pengamatan nanti, katanya. Sementara Ketua Badan Pengawas Pasar Modal dan Lembaga Keuangan (Bapepam LK) Fuad Rahmany mengatakan penurunan IHSG yang lebih dari 5% ini karena pasar merefleksikan penurunan yang harusnya terjadi pada saat libur lebaran. Karena kita kan selama hampir seminggu nggak ada trading. Jadi biasa lah market akan mendiskon awal sesi pertama ini. Tapi mereka melakukan adjusment karena* market itu kan sangat rasional*. Ini karena kita sudah lima hari, yang lain kan sudah turun-turun, jelasnya. *Rasional MATAMU...!!!*
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? = market is rational :D
dapat angkanya dari mana pak? FA atau TA? 2008/10/6 ki_4ever888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] memang rasional koq.. nilai wajar bumi itu 1500 aja, ptba 6000, inco 1500, antm 700, tins 800, aali 7000, sgro 1000, lsip 2000 believe it or not up2u.. salam, non-yangkuter... :)) --- On *Mon, 10/6/08, y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:07 AM Jeblok 10%, Transaksi Saham BEI Tidak Disuspensi http://www.detikfin ance.com/ read/2008/ 10/06/152403/ 1016049/6/ jeblok-10- transaksi- saham-bei- tidak-disuspensi Jakarta - Saham-saham di Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI) terus berguguran mencapai dasar terendah di tahun ini. Meski Indeks Harga Saham Gabungan (IHSG) telah jebok 10%, otoritas BEI tidak menghentikan transaksi. Pada perdagangan saham sesi II, Senin (6/10/2008) pukul 15.04 WIB, IHSG terjun hingga 187,489 poin atau 10,23% ke level 1.645,018. Penurunan IHSG ini merupakan yang terburuk di bursa Asia. Bursa kawasan rata-rata hanya turun 4-5% seperti Hang Seng turun 4,41%, Seoul turun 4,29%, Nikkei turun 4,25%, Shanghai turun 5,21%, STI Singapura turun 4,07%. IHSG mengalami penurunan tajam karena imbas krisis di AS, pelemahan rupiah yang tidak terbendung ke level 9.575 per dolar AS dan naiknya angka inflasi September menjadi 0,97% dibanding Agustus 0,51%. Dirut BEI Erry Firmansyah mengatakan pihaknya belum akan melakukan suspensi perdagangan saham meski IHSG telah anjlok hingga 10%. Belum tahu, masih kami tinjau perkembangan selanjutnya. Sejauh ini belum ada rencana, ujar Erry ketika dihubungi, Senin (6/10/2008). Menurut Erry tidak ada ketentuan hingga penurunan level berapa transaksi saham harus dihentikan. Secara peraturan tidak ada ketentuan angkanya, tergantung hasil pengamatan nanti, katanya. Sementara Ketua Badan Pengawas Pasar Modal dan Lembaga Keuangan (Bapepam LK) Fuad Rahmany mengatakan penurunan IHSG yang lebih dari 5% ini karena pasar merefleksikan penurunan yang harusnya terjadi pada saat libur lebaran. Karena kita kan selama hampir seminggu nggak ada trading. Jadi biasa lah market akan mendiskon awal sesi pertama ini. Tapi mereka melakukan adjusment karena* market itu kan sangat rasional*. Ini karena kita sudah lima hari, yang lain kan sudah turun-turun, jelasnya. *Rasional MATAMU...!!!*
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? = market is rational :D
hehehe emang ente belajar dari si ERY yah? kalo dibilang rasional, kaga ada nilainya tuh kertas...dibakar aja juga abis semua...apa masih rasional satu lembar saham lebih murah dari 1 lintir Rokok Cap Jangkrik di jaman gene??? --- On Mon, 10/6/08, ki_4ever888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ki_4ever888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? = market is rational :D To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:23 AM memang rasional koq.. nilai wajar bumi itu 1500 aja, ptba 6000, inco 1500, antm 700, tins 800, aali 7000, sgro 1000, lsip 2000 believe it or not up2u.. salam, non-yangkuter. .. :)) --- On Mon, 10/6/08, y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id wrote: From: y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:07 AM Jeblok 10%, Transaksi Saham BEI Tidak Disuspensi http://www.detikfin ance.com/ read/2008/ 10/06/152403/ 1016049/6/ jeblok-10- transaksi- saham-bei- tidak-disuspensi Jakarta - Saham-saham di Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI) terus berguguran mencapai dasar terendah di tahun ini. Meski Indeks Harga Saham Gabungan (IHSG) telah jebok 10%, otoritas BEI tidak menghentikan transaksi. Pada perdagangan saham sesi II, Senin (6/10/2008) pukul 15.04 WIB, IHSG terjun hingga 187,489 poin atau 10,23% ke level 1.645,018. Penurunan IHSG ini merupakan yang terburuk di bursa Asia. Bursa kawasan rata-rata hanya turun 4-5% seperti Hang Seng turun 4,41%, Seoul turun 4,29%, Nikkei turun 4,25%, Shanghai turun 5,21%, STI Singapura turun 4,07%. IHSG mengalami penurunan tajam karena imbas krisis di AS, pelemahan rupiah yang tidak terbendung ke level 9.575 per dolar AS dan naiknya angka inflasi September menjadi 0,97% dibanding Agustus 0,51%. Dirut BEI Erry Firmansyah mengatakan pihaknya belum akan melakukan suspensi perdagangan saham meski IHSG telah anjlok hingga 10%. Belum tahu, masih kami tinjau perkembangan selanjutnya. Sejauh ini belum ada rencana, ujar Erry ketika dihubungi, Senin (6/10/2008). Menurut Erry tidak ada ketentuan hingga penurunan level berapa transaksi saham harus dihentikan. Secara peraturan tidak ada ketentuan angkanya, tergantung hasil pengamatan nanti, katanya. Sementara Ketua Badan Pengawas Pasar Modal dan Lembaga Keuangan (Bapepam LK) Fuad Rahmany mengatakan penurunan IHSG yang lebih dari 5% ini karena pasar merefleksikan penurunan yang harusnya terjadi pada saat libur lebaran. Karena kita kan selama hampir seminggu nggak ada trading. Jadi biasa lah market akan mendiskon awal sesi pertama ini. Tapi mereka melakukan adjusment karena market itu kan sangat rasional. Ini karena kita sudah lima hari, yang lain kan sudah turun-turun, jelasnya. Rasional MATAMU...!!!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? = market is rational :D
wah harga2 itu udah deket donk..berarti minggu ini done kejadian donkkk..asi... --- Pada Sen, 6/10/08, Bell Boy [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: Bell Boy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? = market is rational :D Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 6 Oktober, 2008, 7:38 PM hehehe emang ente belajar dari si ERY yah? kalo dibilang rasional, kaga ada nilainya tuh kertas...dibakar aja juga abis semua...apa masih rasional satu lembar saham lebih murah dari 1 lintir Rokok Cap Jangkrik di jaman gene??? --- On Mon, 10/6/08, ki_4ever888 ki_4ever888@ yahoo.com wrote: From: ki_4ever888 ki_4ever888@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? = market is rational :D To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:23 AM memang rasional koq.. nilai wajar bumi itu 1500 aja, ptba 6000, inco 1500, antm 700, tins 800, aali 7000, sgro 1000, lsip 2000 believe it or not up2u.. salam, non-yangkuter. .. :)) --- On Mon, 10/6/08, y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id wrote: From: y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market Always Right, Right..? To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:07 AM Jeblok 10%, Transaksi Saham BEI Tidak Disuspensi http://www.detikfin ance.com/ read/2008/ 10/06/152403/ 1016049/6/ jeblok-10- transaksi- saham-bei- tidak-disuspensi Jakarta - Saham-saham di Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI) terus berguguran mencapai dasar terendah di tahun ini. Meski Indeks Harga Saham Gabungan (IHSG) telah jebok 10%, otoritas BEI tidak menghentikan transaksi. Pada perdagangan saham sesi II, Senin (6/10/2008) pukul 15.04 WIB, IHSG terjun hingga 187,489 poin atau 10,23% ke level 1.645,018. Penurunan IHSG ini merupakan yang terburuk di bursa Asia. Bursa kawasan rata-rata hanya turun 4-5% seperti Hang Seng turun 4,41%, Seoul turun 4,29%, Nikkei turun 4,25%, Shanghai turun 5,21%, STI Singapura turun 4,07%. IHSG mengalami penurunan tajam karena imbas krisis di AS, pelemahan rupiah yang tidak terbendung ke level 9.575 per dolar AS dan naiknya angka inflasi September menjadi 0,97% dibanding Agustus 0,51%. Dirut BEI Erry Firmansyah mengatakan pihaknya belum akan melakukan suspensi perdagangan saham meski IHSG telah anjlok hingga 10%. Belum tahu, masih kami tinjau perkembangan selanjutnya. Sejauh ini belum ada rencana, ujar Erry ketika dihubungi, Senin (6/10/2008). Menurut Erry tidak ada ketentuan hingga penurunan level berapa transaksi saham harus dihentikan. Secara peraturan tidak ada ketentuan angkanya, tergantung hasil pengamatan nanti, katanya. Sementara Ketua Badan Pengawas Pasar Modal dan Lembaga Keuangan (Bapepam LK) Fuad Rahmany mengatakan penurunan IHSG yang lebih dari 5% ini karena pasar merefleksikan penurunan yang harusnya terjadi pada saat libur lebaran. Karena kita kan selama hampir seminggu nggak ada trading. Jadi biasa lah market akan mendiskon awal sesi pertama ini. Tapi mereka melakukan adjusment karena market itu kan sangat rasional. Ini karena kita sudah lima hari, yang lain kan sudah turun-turun, jelasnya. Rasional MATAMU...!!! ___ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Market Summary by SECTOR
Market Summary by SECTOR Saham saham sering bergerak per sector, untuk memudahkan mencari sector yg sedang BERGERAK, embah postingkan: - Market Summary by Sector Disini saham dengan sector yg sama dikelompokan dan dirangking dari naiknya paling besar ke yg paling kecil. http://www.invest2000.net/ZZIDSEC.TXT
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Summary by SECTOR
Mbah, ini daftar per jumat kemarin? Sori mbah, maksud saya jumat kemarin kan sepi banget yang main, apa bisa dijadiin patokan? Apa bisa misalnya sebulan atau quarter terakhir? Thanks. Btw, bikinnya pake apa ya? Regards, DE Pada 1 Oktober 2008 16:18, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]menulis: Market Summary by SECTOR Saham saham sering bergerak per sector, untuk memudahkan mencari sector yg sedang BERGERAK, embah postingkan: - Market Summary by Sector Disini saham dengan sector yg sama dikelompokan dan dirangking dari naiknya paling besar ke yg paling kecil. http://www.invest2000.net/ZZIDSEC.TXT + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] Market window Friday
Dow dan regional plus average 4%, Shanghai +8%. shanghai, Sept 19, 2008 (AFP) - Chinese share prices opened sharply higher Friday morning, soaring more than eight percent after the government abolished a stamp tax on buying shares, dealers said. Perfect combination buat buang barang...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market window Friday
tambahin deh... nikkei dah 3.3% On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Karno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dow dan regional plus average 4%, Shanghai +8%. shanghai, Sept 19, 2008 (AFP) - Chinese share prices opened sharply higher Friday morning, soaring more than eight percent after the government abolished a stamp tax on buying shares, dealers said. Perfect combination buat buang barang...
[obrolan-bandar] Market Review - 18/09/2008
SEJUMLAH saham sektor perbankan layak dikoleksi untuk jangka pendek ini. Menurut sumber Investor Daily, pihak-pihak tertentu disinyalir mulai mengerek harga saham perbankan di antaranya saham PT Bank Rakyat Indonesia Tbk (BBRI), PT Bank Mandiri Tbk (BMRI), PT Bank Central Asia Tbk (BBCA), PT Bank Negara Indonesia Tbk (BBNI), dan PT Bank Panin Tbk (PNBN). Terbukti, pada perdagangan kemarin, harga saham-saham itu ditutup naik dan mendorong penguatan indeks. Selain itu, saham perbankan khususnya BUMN layak diburu seiring rencana pemerintah melakukan buyback saham. Sejumlah investor asing berebutan saham BNI, menyusul rencana pemerintah melego minimal 20% saham. Beberapa sumber Investor Daily mengungkapkan, pemerintah bersedia melepas saham di atas harga secondary public offfering (SPO) Rp 2.050. Sebab, kinerja keuangan bank nomor empat terbesar di Tanah Air tersebut dari segi aset per akhir Maret 2008 cenderung membaik ke depan. Di antara investor yang mengincar saham BNI adalah International Finance Corporation (IFC), anak usaha Bank Dunia, China Construction Bank, dan investor Korsel serta Qatar. Saham akan dilepas dalam strategic block sale. HARGA saham PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI) akan terus ditekan ke bawah hingga level Rp 2.800-3.000. Menurut sumber Investor Daily, harga pembelian kembali (buyback) saham perseroan berkisar antara Rp 2.800-3.500. Harga tersebut tidak terpaut jauh dengan harga REPO. Dengan demikian, perseroan hanya akan menyediakan dana buyback saham sekitar Rp 2 triliun, atau lebih efisien dibandingkan rencana semula Rp 6 triliun. Namun, apabila harga BUMI sudah menyentuh level Rp 2.800-3.000, saham produsen batubara terbesar di Indonesia itu akan kembali naik menuju level Rp 4.000-5.000. Ketidakjelasan proyek Herald Resources menjadi momentum penurunan harga BUMI. Sebab, proyek Herald di Sumatera Utara sulit mendapatkan izin dari Menteri Kehutanan karena terkait hutan lindung. SEJUMLAH pemodal besar kini masih menunggu pergerakan harga saham PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI). Namun, kata sumber Investor Daily, mereka sudah bersiap-siap mengoleksi kembali BUMI untuk jangka pendek maupun menengah. Para pemodal itu akan masuk ke pasar bila harganya sudah di bawah. Saat ini, harga BUMI terbilang murah. Selain itu, kata dia, pelaku pasar juga sudah mencium indikasi bahwa konsorsium broker bakal mengoleksi BUMI dalam jumlah besar. Hal tersebut tentunya bakal memicu penguatan harga. Goldman Sachs menurunkan target oil dari 147 ke 115 (bloomberg). PT Aneka Tambang Tbk (ANTM) menyatakan siap merealisasikan rencana membeli kembali saham (buy back) paling lambat Desember mendatang. Finalisasi pengkajian aksi ini diharapkan rampung pertengahan November 2008.Direktur Utama ANTM Alwin Syah Loebis mengatakan, sebelumnya ANTM telah mewacanakan rencana pembelian kembali saham ini. Wacana itu muncul ketika saham ANTM turun di sekitar level Rp 1.800 per saham. Langkah ini, jelas Alwin, dilakukan untuk menyelamatkan harga saham yang dalam beberapa minggu terakhir mengalami penurunan seiring terkoreksinya indeks harga saham gabungan (IHSG). Indonesian state-owned miner, PT Aneka Tambang Tbk, is considering acquiring coal mines to diversify its operations and to meet growing energy needs for its nickel production, its president director said. The company expects coal consumption to rise significantly when it completes a new power plant near its nickel mine in Pomalaa in Sulawesi island, Alwin Syah Loebis, Antam's president director, told reporters. Please find some valuable information of investment strategic on http://smartinvestor.multiply.com Best Regards, Iwan Budhiarta, RFP, CWM Private Wealth Manager ___ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Market Time Clock (4): Time for INCO to rebound
Embah kirim grafik ke 4 untuk INCO. Disini embah mengunakan metode MARKET TIME CLOCK. Silahkan dinikmati sambil LUNCH... http://www.invest2000.net/piwinco.png Life is so Beautifull... Terimakasih Tuhan atas PRECIOUS TIME yg Engkau berikan.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Time Clock (4): Time for INCO to rebound
Embah..., sektor apa yang menjadi penopang bullish-nya IHSG? 2008/9/6, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Embah kirim grafik ke 4 untuk INCO. Disini embah mengunakan metode MARKET TIME CLOCK. Silahkan dinikmati sambil LUNCH... http://www.invest2000.net/piwinco.png Life is so Beautifull... Terimakasih Tuhan atas PRECIOUS TIME yg Engkau berikan.
[obrolan-bandar] Market bercerita terhadap kita tentang sejuta kemungkinan
Market telah berbicara kepada kita melalui baik melalui fundamental analysis maupun melalui technical analysis. Dalam satu harga diwaktu yang sama orang memiliki banyak intrepetasi terhadap harga tesebut. Dalam satu grafik di periode yang sama market telah berbicara kepada kita tentang banyak kemungkinan untuk bisa entry ke market. Sekedar contoh kasus saja (Market XAUUSD time Frame 4 Hour) Pertama kali membuka chart ini ada beberapa hal yang muncul dalam benak saya, yaitu: 1. Ascending Triangle Pattern 2. Pola Triple Top. 3. Triangle dalam Oscillator/RSI 4. Wave dalam pola ascending triangle 5. Wave dalam pola Triangle di RSI Grafik tersebut telah berbicara kepada saya tentang 5 kemungkinan dan 5 decision yang akan memberi berbagai macam intrepatasi kepada kita. Kita coba bahas satu persatu deh biar bisa memberi gambaran apa yang telah terjadi. 1. Ascending triangle pattern Seperti yang ada digambar diatas jika digambar dengan trendline terdapat pola Ascending triangle. dimana ada 3 Peak jika ditarik garis horisontal membentuk posisi horisontal line. sedang trendline lainnya dari bawah sebagai support membentuk posisi diagonal . Pola ini bisa berupa contuniation atau reversal, tapi dilihat dari posisi terakhir dari peak yang terjadi maka dari pola ascending triangle ini sudah break resistance dan confirm untuk buy. volume ketika harga menembs horisontal resitance juga memberikan konfirmasi yang positif. bahwa harga akan bergerak naik. 2. Triple Top Pola selanjutnya yang nampak dalam mata saya adalah triple top. Pola ini memberikan peluang bahwa market akan bearish/turun volume yang cenderung menurun ters dari awal peak triple top ini memberikan gambaran bahwa market akan cenderung untuk bearish. Kita bisa sell sekarang atau menunggu konfirmasi ketika harga menembus Troughs terakhir. 3. Triangle dalam RSI Disisi lain ternyata ada seandainya saya berperan sebagai orang C ternyata saya melihat ada pola Triangle dalam RSI. Sekarang tinggal menunggu saat-saat harga break dari trendline yang saya buat. jika break keatas buy, break ke bawah saya akan sell, dilihat dari posisi RSI saja. 4. Wave dalam pola ascending triangle Nah sekarang saya berperan sebagai Orang D. selain pola ascending Triangle ternyata saya melihat ada wave dalam pola tersebut. Saya beri kode ABCDE . posisi E memberi saya peluang untuk take buy position. Dengan Stop loss di bawah titik D dan take profit sepanjang jarak titik A-B. kalau seandinya kemarin saya berada pada posisi C mungkin sekarang ketika harga pada posisi D saya bisa melakukan buy position. 5. Wave dalam pola Triangle di RSI Ok Next ketika saya berperan sebagai orang E ternyata saya melihat didalam triangle di RSI ada pola wave juga ketia saya gambar baru sampai di wave C mengarah ke D. Dari sini ada 2 skenario a. Jika ketika harga menyentuh D dan volumenya canderung kecil dari bar sebelumnya maka saya akan buy. b. Jika ketika harga menyentuh D dan vo,umnya cenderung lebih besar dari bar/candle seelumnya saya akan sell Sudah ada 5 orang analis dengan pemikiran berbeda-beda dan beragam dan teknik analisa masing-masing. Pertanyaan yang muncul pasti. Wah Asumsinya banyak banget. Satu, guru, satu ilmu sudah berbeda-beda asumsinya. Mana nih yang bener ??? Ok sebelum saya jawab saya akan beri 2 gambar lagi 6. Breakout Box Sekarang saya menjadi orang F dengan metode breakout gambar diatas hasil analisa saya jika menggunakan metode breakout. Saya akan buy jika harga break dari high price. Atau Keluar dari box ke arah atas . Dan saya akan mengambil posisi sell jika harga break low price, keluar dari box ke arah bawah. 7. Parabolic SAR Ketika saya menjadi Mr. G saya menggunakan Parabolic SAR sebagai tools trading saya. Saya akan mengambil posisi sell saat ini. Pertanyaan yang sama pasti akan muncul lagi dan bertambah bingung pastinya. Saya mau menulis jawabanya juga jadi bingung karena terlalu banyaknya gambar. Dan kemungkinan yang bisa saya ambil. Wah kalau yang nulis aja bingung, apalagi yang baca nih ..Saya harus bersikap seperti apa nih??? Ada 7 teknik dari satu otak dan memberikan dari 7 decision trading tentunya. Pertanyaan yang paling berkecamuk dalam hati adalah. Mana yang benar dari ke tujuh teknik tersebut.??? Jawaban saya kesemuanya benar!!! Tidak ada yang salah karena tiap teknik mempunyai Aturan sendiri2 dan risk management masing-masing. Tidak ada yang salah dari ketujuh teknik tersebut, yang paling penting berikan reason dan alasan yang tepat dari masing2 hal tersebut. Kalau kata guru-guru saya dan kebetulan tadi pagi saya telpon salah satu dari beliau. Saya utarakan argumen2 saya tentang berbagai hal di atas. Kami memiliki satu kesimpulan yang sama, ini adalah The Art of Technical analysis Technical Analyisis memberikan probabilitas sebesar 70% untuk bisa menang di market. Sisany 30% adalah resiko yang bisa kita terima(acceptable reasonable). Disisi lain pasti ada pertanyaan lain. Pak saya sudah belajar technical
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET TALK: China Shrs Up Midday On Tax News; Upside Limited
0345 GMT [Dow Jones] China shares up slightly midday in moderate trade on news securities regulator to likely cut or cancel tax on dividends. Shanghai Composite Index +0.5% at 2354.07, tipped to hover around current level rest of session. But rebound unsustainable because of limited trading volume, says Zhang Gang at Southwest Securities. Insurers and other financial firms are leading today's rise, but these large caps can only extend gains when the market is trading actively. Among actives, Ping An Insurance (601318.SH) +3.4% at CNY46.25, Citic Securities (600030.SH) +4.0% at CNY19.63. Shenzhen Index +0.1% at 643.32.(WYL) ___ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Market masih RAGU
Volume hari ini walaupun lebih baik dari kemarin tetapi belum cukup untuk menandakan pergantian TREND alias Reversal. Saham-saham Mining CPO rata-rata belum menembus RESISTANCE. Jadi bersabarlah.. Sekedar menyampaikan FAKTA dilapangan. rgs, JM Note: Kalo yang day trade sih SIKAT saja 2-3% bagus juga
[obrolan-bandar] Market News: Asia stocks at 2-yr low
Market News: Asia stocks at 2-yr low; (Reuters) - Asian stocks slipped to a two-year low on Friday, falling for a fourth straight week, as a surge in oil prices to above $121 knocked the U.S. dollar and the spiraling financial crisis showed no signs of ending. Crude prices have been driven up 6.5 percent this week on escalating tensions between the United States and Russia, the world's second-largest oil exporter. Russia's military intervention in Georgia has disrupted crude transit, supporting prices. A rise in commodity prices cut short a two-week rally in the U.S. dollar, though analysts said the currency's 1.3 percent decline this week was understandable given its stellar rise recently and that an upward trend is still intact. The MSCI pan-Asia stock index .MIAS0PUS was down 0.3 percent, after hitting a two-year low in early trade. The Asia-Pacific ex-Japan index .MIAPJPUS edged up 0.2 percent though was off 2.7 percent on the week. South Korea's KOSPI tumbled about 2 percent to a 16-month low, with shares of the country's top retail lender leading the index lower. THE END IS NEAR? Some analysts said Asian markets were getting closer to a bottom, assuming that the U.S. recession began when regional markets peaked in November 2007. We think the start of the recession will be pinned down to November last year -- which means that, as long as this is just a normal cyclical recession, the bottom for stocks could come very soon, said Garry Evans, Asia-Pacific equity strategist with HSBC in Hong Kong. Over the last 50 years, U.S. recessions lasted between six and 16 months. U.S. stocks on average bottomed four months before the economy would level out and Asia stocks about a month later, Evans said in a research note.
[obrolan-bandar] Market News: Merrill, Goldman, Deutsche Agree to Buy Back Auction-Rate Debt
Market News: Merrill, Goldman, Deutsche Agree to Buy Back Auction-Rate Debt Aug. 22 (Bloomberg) -- Merrill Lynch Co., Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Deutsche Bank AG agreed to pay $160 million in fines and buy back as much as $15 billion in failed auction-rate securities, settling probes by state regulators. The accords bring to eight the number of firms that settled claims in the last two weeks that they misled investors by fraudulently marketing the long-term securities as easy to buy and sell. Merrill, among the biggest underwriters of the debt, will redeem up to $12 billion and pay fines of $125 million, the second-largest penalty to date from the probes. ``It's been a great day of progress,'' said New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, who announced the agreements this afternoon. Merrill Chief Executive Officer John Thain, who took part in talks that led to yesterday's agreement, knew his firm had to ``step up to the plate,'' Cuomo said. Wall Street banks are settling claims stemming from a nationwide investigation into allegations banks peddled auction- rate securities as investments that were as liquid as cash. The $330 billion market seized up in February, when the credit crisis prompted banks to stop supporting the periodic auctions at which the long-term securities were bought and sold. Goldman will buy back $1.5 billion of the securities and pay a $22.5 million fine, Cuomo said. Deutsche Bank will redeem $1 billion of debt and was fined $15 million. Merrill, which offered on Aug. 7 to buy back $10 billion of debt starting in January, will now start buying it in October. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601100sid=aWhYCrt_9SLcrefer=germany
[obrolan-bandar] Market News: Norwegian gas pipe may be shut all winter
Market News: Norwegian gas pipe may be shut all winter LONDON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The leaking gas pipeline between Norway's Kvitebjoern platform and the processor at Kollsnes will remain closed all winter unless repair work planned for next spring can be brought forward, a spokeswoman for field operator StatoilHydro said on Wednesday. The company discovered a leak on the gas pipeline on Tuesday evening and is yet to establish how to stop gas from escaping from it but already planned wider repair work next year. It will be shut down until when we get it repaired, and that is currently set for spring 2009, unless we manage to push this forward, she said. But we don't have any date other than spring 2009 to communicate today. http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUKLK23890820080820
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET TALK : ASIA
Sehubung dengan rencana den BEI yg katanya mau ke level HAPPY ENDING di 4000...ya walau masih LAMA... apakah hal yg sama juga berlaku utk market ASIA ? spt HANGSENG,NIKKEI,STI. sy juga melihat kekuatiran market HANGSENG akan MENIRU market CHINA kan sama2 CHINA jugabeda bursa sajaada komentar ???
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET TALK: Indonesia 2Q GDP +6.39% On Yr, Beats Expectation
0703 GMT [Dow Jones] Indonesia's economic growth surprisingly accelerates in 2Q, showing resilience against global slowdown and rising domestic inflation; 2Q GDP +6.39% on year, picking up from 6.32% in 1Q and beating market's expectation of 6.13%. Accelerating growth may give Bank Indonesia more liberty to hike rates further to rein in inflation. USD/IDR so far unmoved at 9,190 by better-than-expected data, but it should be good for rupiah in coming days, dealers say. (IMS)
[obrolan-bandar] Market terlalu berlebihan terhadap penurunan batu bara
Market terlalu reaktif terhadap penurunan harga batubara. Harga batu bara turun dari $ 193 menjadi $ 156 turun 19% Harga saham: BUMI turun 44 % dari harga tertinggi di Rp 8750 PTBA turun 32 % dari harga tertinggi Rp 17.250,- ITMG turun 37 % UNTR turun 38 % dari harga tertingginya
[obrolan-bandar] Market terlalu berlebihan terhadap penurunan batu bara
Apakah reaksi market juga tidak terlalu berlebihan terhadap kenaikan harga batubara selama ini. BUMI 8750? ITMG 36000? RW - Original Message - From: simon bolenang To: obrolan-bandar yahoogroups ; saham yahoogroups Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:42 PM Subject: [?? Probable Spam] [obrolan-bandar] Market terlalu berlebihan terhadap penurunan batu bara Market terlalu reaktif terhadap penurunan harga batubara. Harga batu bara turun dari $ 193 menjadi $ 156 turun 19% Harga saham: BUMI turun 44 % dari harga tertinggi di Rp 8750 PTBA turun 32 % dari harga tertinggi Rp 17.250,- ITMG turun 37 % UNTR turun 38 % dari harga tertingginya
[obrolan-bandar] market crash ????
pak oen, anda berkata : pada akhirnya semua akan berakhir indah adanya tapi menurut info dari intel lapangan yg saya terima, 3 bulan ke depan merupakan masa kritis, bahkan dapat dikatakan akan terjadi market crash. berarti semuanya akan berakhir indah mulai tahun depan?
[obrolan-bandar] Market moving back and forth in the psychological level of 2200..
DJ up near 3% last yesterday and regional moves significantly in the positive territory. In the 1st session IHSG try to move up but negative sentiments drag down the index back to the psychological level of 2200. Anyone want to share next movement of IDX? What do you think the positive sentiment that would bring IDX moving up and what is the negative sentiments that could drag down the IDX.. :-)
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market moving back and forth in the psychological level of 2200..
The answer is simple... BUMI hehehehehehe Thank You! ThomaS FredericK --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market moving back and forth in the psychological level of 2200.. To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 2:43 AM DJ up near 3% last yesterday and regional moves significantly in the positive territory. In the 1st session IHSG try to move up but negative sentiments drag down the index back to the psychological level of 2200. Anyone want to share next movement of IDX? What do you think the positive sentiment that would bring IDX moving up and what is the negative sentiments that could drag down the IDX.. :-)
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market moving back and forth in the psychological level of 2200..
BULL'S EYE!!! Itulah jawaban anda Ms. Tan - Original Message From: Thomas Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2008 2:51:38 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market moving back and forth in the psychological level of 2200.. The answer is simple... BUMI hehehehehehe Thank You! ThomaS FredericK --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ gmail.com wrote: From: Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ gmail.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market moving back and forth in the psychological level of 2200.. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, junior_Trader@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 2:43 AM DJ up near 3% last yesterday and regional moves significantly in the positive territory. In the 1st session IHSG try to move up but negative sentiments drag down the index back to the psychological level of 2200. Anyone want to share next movement of IDX? What do you think the positive sentiment that would bring IDX moving up and what is the negative sentiments that could drag down the IDX.. :-)
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market moving back and forth in the psychological level of 2200..
Yupe - bumi factor + BI-Rate announcements effects a day before Happy Chuan, Aria The answer is simple... BUMI hehehehehehe Thank You! ThomaS FredericK --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market moving back and forth in the psychological level of 2200.. To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 2:43 AM DJ up near 3% last yesterday and regional moves significantly in the positive territory. In the 1st session IHSG try to move up but negative sentiments drag down the index back to the psychological level of 2200. Anyone want to share next movement of IDX? What do you think the positive sentiment that would bring IDX moving up and what is the negative sentiments that could drag down the IDX.. :-)
[obrolan-bandar] Market
saat sekarang oil tembus $120 pbo, oil naik market heboh, oil turun market juga heboh...hehehe.. COAL hampir identik dg indeks kita, harga batubara saat sekarang masih ada dalam bayang2 harga oil, ada saatnya harga batubara berjalan sendiri. diharapkan market jangan panik, lakukan trading, akumulasi secukupnya, market panik, semua info tidak akan terserap dg baik, dana itu tidak ke mana2 pada suatu saat akan masuk lagi. semakin banyak prediksi saat sekarang market akan semakin panik. salam
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market
ini yang bikin bingung nubie, oil naek dow nyungsep.. oil turun dow naek dikit... oil turun lagi ehh dow nya nyungsep pusing2 gak jelas 2008/8/5 kangduren [EMAIL PROTECTED] saat sekarang oil tembus $120 pbo, oil naik market heboh, oil turun market juga heboh...hehehe.. COAL hampir identik dg indeks kita, harga batubara saat sekarang masih ada dalam bayang2 harga oil, ada saatnya harga batubara berjalan sendiri. diharapkan market jangan panik, lakukan trading, akumulasi secukupnya, market panik, semua info tidak akan terserap dg baik, dana itu tidak ke mana2 pada suatu saat akan masuk lagi. semakin banyak prediksi saat sekarang market akan semakin panik. salam
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market
lagi masa transisi..biasa.klo masa transisi gini cuaca jadi ga jelas, kadang bntar panas, kadang dingin, kadang ujan... 2008/8/5 mE ME [EMAIL PROTECTED] ini yang bikin bingung nubie, oil naek dow nyungsep.. oil turun dow naek dikit... oil turun lagi ehh dow nya nyungsep pusing2 gak jelas
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market
saya setuju banget kang duren. oil naik market panik, oil turun market panik juga, trading engine bei rusak market panik lagi, udah nyala malah lebih panik, maunya apa coba?? --- On Tue, 8/5/08, kangduren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: kangduren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:28 AM saat sekarang oil tembus $120 pbo, oil naik market heboh, oil turun market juga heboh... hehehe... ... COAL hampir identik dg indeks kita, harga batubara saat sekarang masih ada dalam bayang2 harga oil, ada saatnya harga batubara berjalan sendiri. diharapkan market jangan panik, lakukan trading, akumulasi secukupnya, market panik, semua info tidak akan terserap dg baik, dana itu tidak ke mana2 pada suatu saat akan masuk lagi. semakin banyak prediksi saat sekarang market akan semakin panik. salam
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market
Makanya ada istilah ... Market is always right ... :) :) :) Ikutan gaya para penganut long term .. santai aja .. nanti juga naik kok :)
[obrolan-bandar] Market Eropa Dibanting
Ada berita apa?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Eropa Dibanting
Dow fut -90,coba liat bloomberg On 7/31/08, Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ada berita apa?
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Market Eropa Dibanting
US GDP below estimates! Dow fut -130 -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Petualang Saham Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:58 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market Eropa Dibanting Ada berita apa?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Eropa Dibanting
Futures Tumble After GDP, Jobless Reports Topics:Employment | Consumers | Economy (U.S.) | Earnings | Stock Market Sectors:Oil and Gas Companies:Visa | Motorola Inc | Walt Disney Co | Mastercard Incorporated | Exxon Mobil Corp | Starbucks Corp By CNBC.com | 31 Jul 2008 | 08:49 AM ET Font size: Futures plunged as the morning's economic news disappointed: Economic growth was weaker than expected -- even with the boost of the rebate checks -- and jobless claims shot up to their highest level in five years. Earlier, futures had been pointing higher after Motorola beat expectations. For Investors a.. Futures and Premarket Data b.. Video: Today's Market Outlook c.. Cramer: Yes, the Market Has Bottomed d.. Huge Europe Earnings Day: All You Need to Know Gross domestic product, the best gauge of economic growth, rose just 1.9 percent in the second quarter, the Commerce Department said in its first of three reports on second-quarter growth. It was certainly better than the first quarter's meager 0.9 percent growth rate, but economists had projected more robust growth of 2 to 2.4 percent, helped by the stimulus checks. GDP is a lagging indicator and strategists weren't planning to give it much weight, given the skew of the rebate checks. The market is likely to be more troubled by jobless claims, which jumped by 44,000 last week to 448,000, the highest level since April 2003. Economists had expected a more modest 395,000 claims, according to Reuters. Motorola [MOT 7.68 --- UNCH (0) ] posted only a modest profit of 1 cent a share, but the phone company beat analyst estimates and shares surged more than 13 percent in premarket trading. Looking to commodities, New York crude prices were weaker after jumping sharply in the previous session on a drop in gasoline inventories. Deutsche Bank was a standout, with its shares managed to hover around the unchanged mark despite a huge drop in profit and $3.6 billion in writedowns. U.S. earnings after the bell Wednesday were mixed, with Starbucks [SBUX 14.67 --- UNCH (0) ] posting its first loss but seeing shares rise after it detailed store closures. Starbucks gained more than 4 percent premarket Thursday. RELATED LINKS Current DateTime: 05:48:18 31 Jul 2008 LinksList Documentid: 25943812 a.. Asian Stocks End Higher, Investors Mull Financials b.. Euro Stocks Edge Up on Oil Stocks, Banks c.. Oil at $126 as US Gasoline-Led Rally Fades d.. Dollar Falls as Weekly Jobless Claims Surge Walt Disney [DIS 31.67 --- UNCH (0) ] shares struggled in Europe, with investors worried by its outlook for ad sales, while Visa [V 78.45 --- UNCH (0) ] climbed on solid numbers. Exxon Mobil [XOM 84.38 --- UNCH (0) ] and Mastercard [MA 270.73 --- UNCH (0) ]. Exxon shares were trading up 1 percent ahead of the earnings release while Mastercard was up 4.6 percent and Visa gained nearly 3 percent. Across the globe, Asian markets finished mostly higher, while European indexes were mixed as investors digested a huge amount of big-name earnings. © 2008 CNBC.com - Original Message - From: Petualang Saham To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:57 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Market Eropa Dibanting Ada berita apa? f_dcr.jpgf_incr.jpgrealtime_icon.gif
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET INSTINCT.....Re: time to entry / time to exit
John Templeton, 95, a billionaire investor whose lifelong fascination with science, the spiritual realm and their mutual connection to the meaning of life prompted him to establish the Templeton Prize to honor what he called progress in religion, died July 8 of pneumonia at Doctors Hospital in Nassau, Bahamas. A naturalized British citizen, he was born in small-town Tennessee and lived in Nassau. Mr. Templeton started his Wall Street career in 1937 and from the beginning took an unconventional approach to investing. He scoured the world for bargains, picked against common wisdom and was an early postwar investor in then-obscure Japanese companies such as Hitachi and Fuji. In 1954, he founded the Templeton Growth Fund, one of the largest and most successful international investment funds in the world. Described by Money magazine in 1999 as arguably the greatest global stock picker of the century, he sold his combined Templeton funds to the Franklin Group in 1992 for $440 million. At the time of the sale, Templeton funds had assets of $22 billion. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/08/AR200807\ 0801232.html \ - IF, ON any day over the past few decades, you had chanced to be strolling in the early morning at Lyford Cay in the Bahamas, you might have seen a wiry, determined figure power-walking in the sea. Keen as a whippet, his thin arms pumping, he headed into the prevailing swell. In his 80s, he would do an hour of this. In his 90s, he still managed 25 minutes. Sir John Templeton spent his life going against the flow. In September 1939, when the war-spooked world was selling, he borrowed $10,000 to buy 100 shares in everything that was trading for less than a dollar a share on the New York Stock Exchange. All but four eventually turned profits. In early 2000, conversely, he sold all his dotcom and Nasdaq tech stocks just before the market crashed. His iron principle of investing was to buy when others are despondently selling and to sell when others are greedily buying. At the point of maximum pessimism he would enter, and clean up. It took fortitude, he would say, to do the opposite of what the crowd was doing. At the very beginning, a southern boy on Wall Street against the east-coast preppies, living in a sixth-floor walk-up filled with $25-worth of furniture, it was almost foolhardy. But he learnt to look at shares distinct from the flow and emotion of the market, and his contrarian habits brought him huge success. A sum of $10,000 invested in his Class A portfolio in 1954, when he set up the Templeton Growth Fund, would have grown to $2m by 1992, when he sold his stake. That represented an annualised average return of 14.5%. http://www.economist.com/obituary/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11745591 \ -Sir John Templeton, RIP By Dr. Mark W. Hendrickson http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/authors.aspx?GUID=9d447ed9-58e5-4\ 31c-b5fd-78ab2d79e73f FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, July 18,2008 Sir John Marks Templeton passed from this world on July 8. In an extraordinary life of 95 years, John Templeton was one of the world's wealthiest individuals, most successful investors, most generous philanthropists, and a tireless seeker for spiritual truth. I first learned of John Templeton nearly 30 years ago when he appeared on the PBS show Wall Street Week with Louis Rukeyser. The late Mr. Rukeyser, for those of you who didn't know him, had a dominating personalitycolorful, witty, brilliant, cocky, and no sufferer of fools. His ego was sizable, and he liked being the center of attention. On the night I first saw John Templeton, though, Rukeyser was transformed. His persona that night was humble, deferential. He spoke quietly, almost reverently, in introducing Mr. Templeton, and then, during their interview, he treated his guest with the utmost respect, even awe. It was almost impossible to envision Louis Rukeyser playing second fiddle to anyone, but he humbly assumed this role in the company of John Templeton. What explained Rukeyser's deference that night? Did his guest have a personality even more dominating than Lou's? On the contrary, Sir Johna slightly built man without an ounce of bravadowas very soft-spoken and mild-mannered. It was as if Rukeyser had introduced Superman, and then Clark Kent appeared. But underneath the modest surface, there was something about this quiet, unassuming man that held one's attention. Suffusing John Templeton's being were powerful spiritual qualitiesintelligence, insight, optimism, and an inner strength anchored securely on an unshakable faith in the ultimate power of good. In an investment world full of wannabe gurus and Barnum-like economic forecasters, John Templeton was the real thing. For decades, he demonstrated an amazing ability to discern economic value and
[obrolan-bandar] Market bergerak ikut ramalan analyst ? atau sebaliknya
Ketika para analyst udah mulai RAME ngomong ihsg plus, maka siap2lah Jadi mana yang BENER ?: - Market bergerak ikut ramalan analyst ? atau - Analyst bergerak ikut gerakan market ?. Mungkin pertanyaan ini engga usah dijawab... Yang LEBIH penting apakah market AKAN TURUN TERUS atau TIDAK ?. Jadi mana yang BENER ?: - BOW atau - SHORT HABIS ? salam artomoro9
[obrolan-bandar] Market Outlook 2 Juli 2008
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[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SEPII
Just For Fun biar ngga BT dengan Sepinya market ini http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/06/dolgado-just-for-fun.html
[obrolan-bandar] Market drops as data, UPS fan economic fears
Market drops as data, UPS fan economic fears Seperti prediksi orang pintar hanya pengaruhi kita 20%, karena export kita masih tumbuh... mudah2 an begitu, tapi dampak BBM naik nihh gimana yaaa http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSL1764662020080624?feedType=nlfeedName=usdai
[obrolan-bandar] Market Asia
Indah sekali regional pagi ini. Mari kita nonton bozz menggoreng ANTM, INCO, BUMI, AALI dst.
[obrolan-bandar] Market reacts negatively on BI rate hike
Server pada padat cause banyak yang mau jualan.. sell!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market reacts negatively on BI rate hike
Bukan nya klau mau jualan harusnya kemarin sekarang justru saat nya beli Biasanya reaction BI rate khan cuma sehari besok juga udah pada lupa tuh apalagi cuma 25 point Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Server pada padat cause banyak yang mau jualan.. sell! - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET is an EFFICIENT FORWARD discounting machine
Jadi kesimpulannya, don't fight with the chart alias technical trading ya mbah... On 5/4/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MARKET is an EFFICIENT FORWARD discounting machine Jika kita menggunakan HASIL laporan keuangan 2007 maka akan kita dapatkan PER dan CLOP RATA2 saham mining dan cpo SANGAT berbeda JAUH... Tapi jika kita gunakan HASIL quartal 1 2008 untung menghitung PER dan CLOP maka akan kita dapatkan angka PER dan CLOP saham mining dan cpo sekitar 11-12 untuk PER dan 8-9 untuk CLOP. Ini menunjukan MARKET adalah suatu mesin yg sangat EFEKTIF untuk mendiscount harga saham dan MENYESUAIKANnya dengan keadaan/lap keuangan emiten meskipun laporan keuangannya BELUM dipublish.. Pada saat laporan keuangan belum dipublish maka harga saham saat itu membuat angka PER dan CLOP terlihat TIDAK MASUK AKAL tapi ketika laporan keuangan sector mining dan cpo Q1 2008 dipublish maka terlihat bahwa MARKET DISCOUNT dilakukan secara BENAR dan dilakukan jauh sebelum lap keuangannya dipublish ... KENAPA ? Karena MARKET is WELL BETTER informed than us !!! Informasi setiap hari mengalir ke MARKET tapi TIDAK kesemua pelaku dimarket tsb. Contoh: - Penurunan performance ANTM sudah lama diprediksi oleh market, sehingga harga turun terus ketika pak Tbumi kekeh terus ngekepin AMTM. Terlihat jelas individu mendapatkan informasi yg lebih buruk daripada MARKET itu sendiri (Ini adalah teori RANDOM WALK THEORY yg mengatakan kita tidak mungkin menang melawan market SEHARI HARI karena Market IS WELL BETER INFORMED than US). - MARKET selalu MENDAPATKAN info LEBIH dulu daripada kita, ini yang membuat HARGA naik dulu baru KELUAR beritanya dimedia dan BUKAN sebaliknya... Have a NICE Sunday... ... embah
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET is an EFFICIENT FORWARD discounting machine
Setelah BA, FA, dan TA, sekarang teori Market Efficiency-nya Eugene Fama dikupas tuntas juga ama Mbah. Siip dech, makin komplit lah warung sampeyan... Regards, Bandar Bola 2008/5/3 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MARKET is an EFFICIENT FORWARD discounting machine Jika kita menggunakan HASIL laporan keuangan 2007 maka akan kita dapatkan PER dan CLOP RATA2 saham mining dan cpo SANGAT berbeda JAUH... Tapi jika kita gunakan HASIL quartal 1 2008 untung menghitung PER dan CLOP maka akan kita dapatkan angka PER dan CLOP saham mining dan cpo sekitar 11-12 untuk PER dan 8-9 untuk CLOP. Ini menunjukan MARKET adalah suatu mesin yg sangat EFEKTIF untuk mendiscount harga saham dan MENYESUAIKANnya dengan keadaan/lap keuangan emiten meskipun laporan keuangannya BELUM dipublish.. Pada saat laporan keuangan belum dipublish maka harga saham saat itu membuat angka PER dan CLOP terlihat TIDAK MASUK AKAL tapi ketika laporan keuangan sector mining dan cpo Q1 2008 dipublish maka terlihat bahwa MARKET DISCOUNT dilakukan secara BENAR dan dilakukan jauh sebelum lap keuangannya dipublish ... KENAPA ? Karena MARKET is WELL BETTER informed than us !!! Informasi setiap hari mengalir ke MARKET tapi TIDAK kesemua pelaku dimarket tsb. Contoh: - Penurunan performance ANTM sudah lama diprediksi oleh market, sehingga harga turun terus ketika pak Tbumi kekeh terus ngekepin AMTM. Terlihat jelas individu mendapatkan informasi yg lebih buruk daripada MARKET itu sendiri (Ini adalah teori RANDOM WALK THEORY yg mengatakan kita tidak mungkin menang melawan market SEHARI HARI karena Market IS WELL BETER INFORMED than US). - MARKET selalu MENDAPATKAN info LEBIH dulu daripada kita, ini yang membuat HARGA naik dulu baru KELUAR beritanya dimedia dan BUKAN sebaliknya... Have a NICE Sunday... ... embah
RE: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET is an EFFICIENT FORWARD discounting machine
And the well informed guys meninggalkan jejak di charts, and we should follow it..., betul begitu Mbah? Salam, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 04 Mei 2008 12:54 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET is an EFFICIENT FORWARD discounting machine MARKET is an EFFICIENT FORWARD discounting machine Jika kita menggunakan HASIL laporan keuangan 2007 maka akan kita dapatkan PER dan CLOP RATA2 saham mining dan cpo SANGAT berbeda JAUH... Tapi jika kita gunakan HASIL quartal 1 2008 untung menghitung PER dan CLOP maka akan kita dapatkan angka PER dan CLOP saham mining dan cpo sekitar 11-12 untuk PER dan 8-9 untuk CLOP. Ini menunjukan MARKET adalah suatu mesin yg sangat EFEKTIF untuk mendiscount harga saham dan MENYESUAIKANnya dengan keadaan/lap keuangan emiten meskipun laporan keuangannya BELUM dipublish.. Pada saat laporan keuangan belum dipublish maka harga saham saat itu membuat angka PER dan CLOP terlihat TIDAK MASUK AKAL tapi ketika laporan keuangan sector mining dan cpo Q1 2008 dipublish maka terlihat bahwa MARKET DISCOUNT dilakukan secara BENAR dan dilakukan jauh sebelum lap keuangannya dipublish ... KENAPA ? Karena MARKET is WELL BETTER informed than us !!! Informasi setiap hari mengalir ke MARKET tapi TIDAK kesemua pelaku dimarket tsb. Contoh: - Penurunan performance ANTM sudah lama diprediksi oleh market, sehingga harga turun terus ketika pak Tbumi kekeh terus ngekepin AMTM. Terlihat jelas individu mendapatkan informasi yg lebih buruk daripada MARKET itu sendiri (Ini adalah teori RANDOM WALK THEORY yg mengatakan kita tidak mungkin menang melawan market SEHARI HARI karena Market IS WELL BETER INFORMED than US). - MARKET selalu MENDAPATKAN info LEBIH dulu daripada kita, ini yang membuat HARGA naik dulu baru KELUAR beritanya dimedia dan BUKAN sebaliknya... Have a NICE Sunday... embah + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 03/05/2008 11:22 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 03/05/2008 11:22 + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET is an EFFICIENT FORWARD discounting machine
Mungkin - maskudnya Embah adanya teori asymmetric information dlm market - penjelasannya scr singkat player di market tidak poenya informasi dlm level yg sama [ada yg leadings - ada yg laggard] - makanya kalo saya sendiri tidak hanya murni mempergunakan T/A 'aja - tapi jg mempergunakan alat2 bantu yg laen utk memperlengkapi saya utk menghadapi mis-mis di dlm informasi2 tsb Happy chuan, Aria From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 1:39 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET is an EFFICIENT FORWARD discounting machine Jadi kesimpulannya, don't fight with the chart alias technical trading ya mbah... On 5/4/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:jsx-consultant%40centrin.net.id wrote: MARKET is an EFFICIENT FORWARD discounting machine Jika kita menggunakan HASIL laporan keuangan 2007 maka akan kita dapatkan PER dan CLOP RATA2 saham mining dan cpo SANGAT berbeda JAUH... Tapi jika kita gunakan HASIL quartal 1 2008 untung menghitung PER dan CLOP maka akan kita dapatkan angka PER dan CLOP saham mining dan cpo sekitar 11-12 untuk PER dan 8-9 untuk CLOP. Ini menunjukan MARKET adalah suatu mesin yg sangat EFEKTIF untuk mendiscount harga saham dan MENYESUAIKANnya dengan keadaan/lap keuangan emiten meskipun laporan keuangannya BELUM dipublish.. Pada saat laporan keuangan belum dipublish maka harga saham saat itu membuat angka PER dan CLOP terlihat TIDAK MASUK AKAL tapi ketika laporan keuangan sector mining dan cpo Q1 2008 dipublish maka terlihat bahwa MARKET DISCOUNT dilakukan secara BENAR dan dilakukan jauh sebelum lap keuangannya dipublish ... KENAPA ? Karena MARKET is WELL BETTER informed than us !!! Informasi setiap hari mengalir ke MARKET tapi TIDAK kesemua pelaku dimarket tsb. Contoh: - Penurunan performance ANTM sudah lama diprediksi oleh market, sehingga harga turun terus ketika pak Tbumi kekeh terus ngekepin AMTM. Terlihat jelas individu mendapatkan informasi yg lebih buruk daripada MARKET itu sendiri (Ini adalah teori RANDOM WALK THEORY yg mengatakan kita tidak mungkin menang melawan market SEHARI HARI karena Market IS WELL BETER INFORMED than US). - MARKET selalu MENDAPATKAN info LEBIH dulu daripada kita, ini yang membuat HARGA naik dulu baru KELUAR beritanya dimedia dan BUKAN sebaliknya... Have a NICE Sunday... ... embah
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET is an EFFICIENT FORWARD discounting machine
- Emailnya Embah selalu masuk di BULK. Mungkin ada yg bisa kasih info kenapa? Padahal di SPAM gak ada listingnya. --out of topic-- Embah, menurut saya karena market kita GAK BERSIH. Banyak INSIDER. Salam JACK jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MARKET is an EFFICIENT FORWARD discounting machine Jika kita menggunakan HASIL laporan keuangan 2007 maka akan kita dapatkan PER dan CLOP RATA2 saham mining dan cpo SANGAT berbeda JAUH... Tapi jika kita gunakan HASIL quartal 1 2008 untung menghitung PER dan CLOP maka akan kita dapatkan angka PER dan CLOP saham mining dan cpo sekitar 11-12 untuk PER dan 8-9 untuk CLOP. Ini menunjukan MARKET adalah suatu mesin yg sangat EFEKTIF untuk mendiscount harga saham dan MENYESUAIKANnya dengan keadaan/lap keuangan emiten meskipun laporan keuangannya BELUM dipublish.. Pada saat laporan keuangan belum dipublish maka harga saham saat itu membuat angka PER dan CLOP terlihat TIDAK MASUK AKAL tapi ketika laporan keuangan sector mining dan cpo Q1 2008 dipublish maka terlihat bahwa MARKET DISCOUNT dilakukan secara BENAR dan dilakukan jauh sebelum lap keuangannya dipublish ... KENAPA ? Karena MARKET is WELL BETTER informed than us !!! Informasi setiap hari mengalir ke MARKET tapi TIDAK kesemua pelaku dimarket tsb. Contoh: - Penurunan performance ANTM sudah lama diprediksi oleh market, sehingga harga turun terus ketika pak Tbumi kekeh terus ngekepin AMTM. Terlihat jelas individu mendapatkan informasi yg lebih buruk daripada MARKET itu sendiri (Ini adalah teori RANDOM WALK THEORY yg mengatakan kita tidak mungkin menang melawan market SEHARI HARI karena Market IS WELL BETER INFORMED than US). - MARKET selalu MENDAPATKAN info LEBIH dulu daripada kita, ini yang membuat HARGA naik dulu baru KELUAR beritanya dimedia dan BUKAN sebaliknya... Have a NICE Sunday... ... embah - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET is an EFFICIENT FORWARD discounting machine
MARKET is an EFFICIENT FORWARD discounting machine Jika kita menggunakan HASIL laporan keuangan 2007 maka akan kita dapatkan PER dan CLOP RATA2 saham mining dan cpo SANGAT berbeda JAUH... Tapi jika kita gunakan HASIL quartal 1 2008 untung menghitung PER dan CLOP maka akan kita dapatkan angka PER dan CLOP saham mining dan cpo sekitar 11-12 untuk PER dan 8-9 untuk CLOP. Ini menunjukan MARKET adalah suatu mesin yg sangat EFEKTIF untuk mendiscount harga saham dan MENYESUAIKANnya dengan keadaan/lap keuangan emiten meskipun laporan keuangannya BELUM dipublish.. Pada saat laporan keuangan belum dipublish maka harga saham saat itu membuat angka PER dan CLOP terlihat TIDAK MASUK AKAL tapi ketika laporan keuangan sector mining dan cpo Q1 2008 dipublish maka terlihat bahwa MARKET DISCOUNT dilakukan secara BENAR dan dilakukan jauh sebelum lap keuangannya dipublish ... KENAPA ? Karena MARKET is WELL BETTER informed than us !!! Informasi setiap hari mengalir ke MARKET tapi TIDAK kesemua pelaku dimarket tsb. Contoh: - Penurunan performance ANTM sudah lama diprediksi oleh market, sehingga harga turun terus ketika pak Tbumi kekeh terus ngekepin AMTM. Terlihat jelas individu mendapatkan informasi yg lebih buruk daripada MARKET itu sendiri (Ini adalah teori RANDOM WALK THEORY yg mengatakan kita tidak mungkin menang melawan market SEHARI HARI karena Market IS WELL BETER INFORMED than US). - MARKET selalu MENDAPATKAN info LEBIH dulu daripada kita, ini yang membuat HARGA naik dulu baru KELUAR beritanya dimedia dan BUKAN sebaliknya... Have a NICE Sunday... ... embah
[obrolan-bandar] market demen ama inco
kejadian lagi nih market naik kena sentimen cum dividend inco, jika benar maka ijo today merah tomorrow, another view of bandarmologi, CMIIW Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] market update - wht happen to market and bakrie stock?
Wah skenarionya cantik ya, harga bumi dkk dipaksa turun ke bawah supaya BNBR dan atau RI-nya menarik. Setelah banyak masuk di BNBR, baru deh diangkat, BNBR untung, yang lain juga :) Tanggal 21 masih lama, sabar, sabar. FYI, Dear all, Penurunan tajam IHSG selama sepekan ini terutama dipicu bbrp hal al: 1.Pencapaian angka inflasi yang sangat tinggi dan diluar ekspektasi (0.95% MoM dan 8.17% YoY) 2.Penurunan saham-saham komoditas seiring dengan turunnya harga komoditas CPO, metal dan batubara 3.Penurunan tajam di saham Bakrie yang turut menyeret penurunan saham lainnya mengingat saham BUMI memiliki market cap ke -2 di IHSG saat ini. No more room for interest rate cut. TIngginya angka inflasi akan membuat peluang penurunan suku bunga yang semakin terbatas. Saat ini BI masih cenderung mempertahankan BI rate di level 8% karena pencalonan gubernur BI yang masih belum final sehingga gubernur BI cenderung mengambil langkah safe heaven untuk mempertahankan suku bunga. Namun apabila Boediono resmi diangkat sbg gubernur BI, besar kemungkinan suku bunga akan dinaikkan. Ekonom kami memprediksi kenaikan suku bunga hingga 8.5%-9% akhir tahun 2008. Kenaikan suku bunga tentunya tidak bersahabat dengan interest rate sensitive spt banking, properti dan otomotif. Bakrie stock dragged market down. Sementara itu, menanggapi turunnya saham-saham bakrie, banyak rumour yang beredar di pasar, al: default repo yang mengakibatkan force sell di pasar dan laporan keuangan yang mengecewakan. Menurut pandangan kami, penurunan saham Bakrie ada kaitan dengan right issue BNBR sebesar Rp48 trilun. Logisnya dalam kondisi pasar yang jelek ini, pemegang saham minoritas akan enggan untuk mengexercise right BNBR, apalagi harga pasar saat ini Rp480 yang lebih rendah dari harga exercise right di Rp500. Jadi ada kemungkinan family/group melakukan penjualan thp saham-saham Bakrie lainnya spt BUMI, UNSP, ELTY, ENRG untuk mendapatkan dana exercise right BNBR. Kami sendiri sangat doubt right BNBR akan laku ditebus oleh minoritas. Karena saat ini harga akuisisi BUMI Rp5432, ENRG Rp1249 dan ELTY Rp556 telah lebih tinggi dari harga pasar sehingga investor akan memilih untuk langsung membeli saham2 tersebut di pasar instead of tebus right BNBR. Setelah akuisisi, komposisi BUMI adalah sekitar 60% di BNBR sehingga value BNBR ada di BUMI. Logisnya seperti itu... namun keliatan keluarga Bakrie tidak akan tinggal diam dalam mensukseskan right issue BNBR. So, iIts a speculative game. Secara fundamental, akusisi BUMI, ELTY dan ENRG akan mengkontribusi kenaikan SOTP BNBR (sedang dihitung, kisarannya sekitar Rp700an). JCI trades at 13.9x PE'08, downside potential limited. Melihat pergerakan Dow dan bursa regional, saat ini sudah cenderung flat, hanya IHSG saja yang bergerak negative sendiri. Secara PE, IHSG pada level 2250 diperdagangkan pada level 13.9x, sudah lebih rendah dari rata-rata Asia 14.6x. Walau masih ada potensi penurunan indeks namun kami melihat batas koreksi indeks di level 2050 atau 12.7x PER'08 (rata2 Malaysia, Filipina, Thailand) akan membuat IHSG kembali menarik untuk masuk. Regards, Christine Salim PT Samuel Sekuritas Indonesia
[obrolan-bandar] market update - wht happen to market and bakrie stock?
FYI, Dear all, Penurunan tajam IHSG selama sepekan ini terutama dipicu bbrp hal al: 1. Pencapaian angka inflasi yang sangat tinggi dan diluar ekspektasi (0.95% MoM dan 8.17% YoY) 2. Penurunan saham-saham komoditas seiring dengan turunnya harga komoditas CPO, metal dan batubara 3. Penurunan tajam di saham Bakrie yang turut menyeret penurunan saham lainnya mengingat saham BUMI memiliki market cap ke -2 di IHSG saat ini. No more room for interest rate cut. TIngginya angka inflasi akan membuat peluang penurunan suku bunga yang semakin terbatas. Saat ini BI masih cenderung mempertahankan BI rate di level 8% karena pencalonan gubernur BI yang masih belum final sehingga gubernur BI cenderung mengambil langkah safe heaven untuk mempertahankan suku bunga. Namun apabila Boediono resmi diangkat sbg gubernur BI, besar kemungkinan suku bunga akan dinaikkan. Ekonom kami memprediksi kenaikan suku bunga hingga 8.5%-9% akhir tahun 2008. Kenaikan suku bunga tentunya tidak bersahabat dengan interest rate sensitive spt banking, properti dan otomotif. Bakrie stock dragged market down. Sementara itu, menanggapi turunnya saham-saham bakrie, banyak rumour yang beredar di pasar, al: default repo yang mengakibatkan force sell di pasar dan laporan keuangan yang mengecewakan. Menurut pandangan kami, penurunan saham Bakrie ada kaitan dengan right issue BNBR sebesar Rp48 trilun. Logisnya dalam kondisi pasar yang jelek ini, pemegang saham minoritas akan enggan untuk mengexercise right BNBR, apalagi harga pasar saat ini Rp480 yang lebih rendah dari harga exercise right di Rp500. Jadi ada kemungkinan family/group melakukan penjualan thp saham-saham Bakrie lainnya spt BUMI, UNSP, ELTY, ENRG untuk mendapatkan dana exercise right BNBR. Kami sendiri sangat doubt right BNBR akan laku ditebus oleh minoritas. Karena saat ini harga akuisisi BUMI Rp5432, ENRG Rp1249 dan ELTY Rp556 telah lebih tinggi dari harga pasar sehingga investor akan memilih untuk langsung membeli saham2 tersebut di pasar instead of tebus right BNBR. Setelah akuisisi, komposisi BUMI adalah sekitar 60% di BNBR sehingga value BNBR ada di BUMI. Logisnya seperti itu... namun keliatan keluarga Bakrie tidak akan tinggal diam dalam mensukseskan right issue BNBR. So, iIts a speculative game. Secara fundamental, akusisi BUMI, ELTY dan ENRG akan mengkontribusi kenaikan SOTP BNBR (sedang dihitung, kisarannya sekitar Rp700an). JCI trades at 13.9x PE'08, downside potential limited. Melihat pergerakan Dow dan bursa regional, saat ini sudah cenderung flat, hanya IHSG saja yang bergerak negative sendiri. Secara PE, IHSG pada level 2250 diperdagangkan pada level 13.9x, sudah lebih rendah dari rata-rata Asia 14.6x. Walau masih ada potensi penurunan indeks namun kami melihat batas koreksi indeks di level 2050 atau 12.7x PER'08 (rata2 Malaysia, Filipina, Thailand) akan membuat IHSG kembali menarik untuk masuk. Regards, Christine Salim PT Samuel Sekuritas Indonesia
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET KOREKSI
buy hold
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
Saya kurang setuju, - Perusahaan yang bagus punya komitmen tinggi untuk meningkatkan value termasuk pemenuhan kepatuhan ketentuan BEJ - - Original Message From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:45:23 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report Re: Cash 200% --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bgmn James? Any hint for us? MARKET SENTIMENT akan ditimbulkan dengan dipublishnya lap Keuangan tahunan... Hari ini laporan tahunan beberapa emiten sudah bisa dilihat diweb BEI... Biasanya secara DISENGAJA atau TIDAK, laporan keuangan yang bagus akan dipublish DULUAN seperti group Astra... Jadi SENTIMEN positif akan dihembuskan kebursa duluan pake metoda FGLB (First Good Last Bad) supaya index positif dan PT bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA... At the END, Laporan keuangan yg jelek dan bermasalah keluar belakangan untuk bikin SENTIMEN negatif supaya index negatif dan Buy Back bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA pada BC yg bagus.. Buat yg engga percaya, coba perhatikan POLA yg diceritakan embah dalam sebulan INI... Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG petter_pinulung@ ... Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:46:48 To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200% Pawang beruang, si Mbah dan mr. James Arifin belum kasih wangsit incoming tuh hehehehhee….  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:56 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200%  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan... tapi saya nambah reserve cash di porto trading (gak penting ya... hehe..). Seriously, saya males makan bangke.. Regards, DE PUMP and DUMP: STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE I borrow lots of stock from long term investors, let's say 10 million shares, with other asset as I Buy 200 from market, price goes up Retail buy 100, prices goes up even more I sell 250, price weakens Retail think it's cheap, wait.. I buy 200, price backs up Retail Buy more 150, yes this is a rally I sell 250, and so on... ... .. [prices keep higher everyday while I dump] .. .. Now I'm empty, so I stop trading Retail stucks, wondering why the price stops, then start profit taking. Price falls. Panic selling, price falls even more. I wait to pick at bottom, then return them to the original owner. We share profit. ::BCA:: Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
nah kalau INCO gimana ??
LK jelek tuh :D
Sampai-sampai BUMN yang tahun lalu janji bulan Feb mau keluar pada takut
muncul semua :))
Apakah TLKM takut kelihatan profit marginnya turun ??
Atau ANTM TINS yang takut menunjukan peningkatan cost gara-gara biaya energy
??
Benarkan PGAS kena forex loss mendekati 1T ??
Bagaimana dengan perbankan ?? Benarkah BMRI seperti yang digembar-gemborkan
??
Atau PTBA yang salesnya flat gara-gara kena peg oleh PLN ?? :D
Let's see and have some fun
Halim
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:41 PM, jsx_consultant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hari ini terjadi Profit Taking sesudah dikeluarkannya laporan
keuangan group Astra yg BAGUS...
Betoel kan ?
Selanjutnya kita liat aja Senin...
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, partisipan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Saya kurang setuju,
- Perusahaan yang bagus punya komitmen tinggi untuk meningkatkan
value termasuk pemenuhan kepatuhan ketentuan BEJ
-
- Original Message
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:45:23 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual
Report Re: Cash 200%
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dwongso@ wrote:
Bgmn James? Any hint for us?
MARKET SENTIMENT akan ditimbulkan dengan dipublishnya lap
Keuangan tahunan...
Hari ini laporan tahunan beberapa emiten sudah bisa
dilihat diweb BEI...
Biasanya secara DISENGAJA atau TIDAK, laporan keuangan
yang bagus akan dipublish DULUAN seperti group Astra...
Jadi SENTIMEN positif akan dihembuskan kebursa duluan
pake metoda FGLB (First Good Last Bad) supaya index positif
dan PT bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA...
At the END, Laporan keuangan yg jelek dan bermasalah keluar
belakangan untuk bikin SENTIMEN negatif supaya index negatif
dan Buy Back bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA pada BC yg bagus..
Buat yg engga percaya, coba perhatikan POLA yg diceritakan
embah dalam sebulan INI...
Sent from my BlackBerryÂ(R) wireless device
-Original Message-
From: PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG petter_pinulung@ ...
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:46:48
To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200%
Pawang beruang, si Mbah dan mr. James Arifin belum kasih wangsit
incoming tuh hehehehhee….
Â
From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:56 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200%
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Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan... tapi saya nambah reserve cash di
porto trading (gak penting ya... hehe..). Seriously, saya males
makan bangke..
Regards,
DE
PUMP and DUMP: STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE
I borrow lots of stock from long term investors, let's say 10
million shares, with other asset as
I Buy 200 from market, price goes up
Retail buy 100, prices goes up even more
I sell 250, price weakens
Retail think it's cheap, wait..
I buy 200, price backs up
Retail Buy more 150, yes this is a rally
I sell 250, and so on...
...
..
[prices keep higher everyday while I dump]
..
..
Now I'm empty, so I stop trading
Retail stucks, wondering why the price stops, then start profit
taking. Price falls.
Panic selling, price falls even more.
I wait to pick at bottom, then return them to the original
owner.
We share profit.
::BCA::
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[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
Hari ini terjadi Profit Taking sesudah dikeluarkannya laporan keuangan group Astra yg BAGUS... Betoel kan ? Selanjutnya kita liat aja Senin... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, partisipan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya kurang setuju, - Perusahaan yang bagus punya komitmen tinggi untuk meningkatkan value termasuk pemenuhan kepatuhan ketentuan BEJ - - Original Message From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:45:23 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report Re: Cash 200% --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dwongso@ wrote: Bgmn James? Any hint for us? MARKET SENTIMENT akan ditimbulkan dengan dipublishnya lap Keuangan tahunan... Hari ini laporan tahunan beberapa emiten sudah bisa dilihat diweb BEI... Biasanya secara DISENGAJA atau TIDAK, laporan keuangan yang bagus akan dipublish DULUAN seperti group Astra... Jadi SENTIMEN positif akan dihembuskan kebursa duluan pake metoda FGLB (First Good Last Bad) supaya index positif dan PT bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA... At the END, Laporan keuangan yg jelek dan bermasalah keluar belakangan untuk bikin SENTIMEN negatif supaya index negatif dan Buy Back bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA pada BC yg bagus.. Buat yg engga percaya, coba perhatikan POLA yg diceritakan embah dalam sebulan INI... Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG petter_pinulung@ ... Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:46:48 To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200% Pawang beruang, si Mbah dan mr. James Arifin belum kasih wangsit incoming tuh hehehehheeâ¦.  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:56 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200%  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan... tapi saya nambah reserve cash di porto trading (gak penting ya... hehe..). Seriously, saya males makan bangke.. Regards, DE PUMP and DUMP: STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE I borrow lots of stock from long term investors, let's say 10 million shares, with other asset as I Buy 200 from market, price goes up Retail buy 100, prices goes up even more I sell 250, price weakens Retail think it's cheap, wait.. I buy 200, price backs up Retail Buy more 150, yes this is a rally I sell 250, and so on... ... .. [prices keep higher everyday while I dump] .. .. Now I'm empty, so I stop trading Retail stucks, wondering why the price stops, then start profit taking. Price falls. Panic selling, price falls even more. I wait to pick at bottom, then return them to the original owner. We share profit. ::BCA:: _ ___ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
Lah kalo kinclong gini koq pak Hmin bilang jelek? Apa saya kelewatan sesuatu? kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ko jadinya berantakan yak?? waduhh... nih di ulang yg 2007 estimatenya aja (Millions USD) INCOME STATEMENT Revenue 2,291.9 Less: Cost of Goods Sold 696.7 Gross Profits 1,595.2 Less: Operating Expenses: Selling And G A Expenses Management and technical assistance36.4 Professional fees 4.5 Employee Costs 1.0 Others 8.0 Total Operating Expenses49.9 Operating Profits 1,545.3 Add : Interest Income - Less: Interest Expense (2.5)Loss on Disposals of Property (20.0)Allowance for Obsolete Supplies (8.0)Currency Loss (2.0)Others (Inc/Loss) - Net Profits Before Taxes 1,512.8 Less: Taxes (provision) 453.8 Net Profit After Taxes 1,059 Less: Pref. Stock Divds. - Earnings Available for Common Stockholders 1,059 Kayanya malah rada2 impresif deh kalo emang bisa segini, freecashflownya bkal bagus... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
Ini estimate doank pak.. jadinya belon tentu begini, keluarnya di RUPS 26 Maret entar.. ini aNCER2 VERSI SAYAH AJAH... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lah kalo kinclong gini koq pak Hmin bilang jelek? Apa saya kelewatan sesuatu? kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ko jadinya berantakan yak?? waduhh... nih di ulang yg 2007 estimatenya aja (Millions USD) INCOME STATEMENT Revenue 2,291.9 Less: Cost of Goods Sold 696.7 Gross Profits 1,595.2 Less: Operating Expenses: Selling And G A Expenses Management and technical assistance 36.4 Professional fees 4.5 Employee Costs 1.0 Others 8.0 Total Operating Expenses 49.9 Operating Profits 1,545.3 Add : Interest Income - Less: Interest Expense (2.5)Loss on Disposals of Property (20.0)Allowance for Obsolete Supplies (8.0)Currency Loss (2.0)Others (Inc/Loss) - Net Profits Before Taxes 1,512.8 Less: Taxes (provision) 453.8 Net Profit After Taxes 1,059 Less: Pref. Stock Divds. - Earnings Available for Common Stockholders 1,059 Kayanya malah rada2 impresif deh kalo emang bisa segini, freecashflownya bkal bagus... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nah kalau INCO gimana ?? LK jelek tuh :D Makanya INCO naik dulu hari INI...hehehe Sampai-sampai BUMN yang tahun lalu janji bulan Feb mau keluar pada takut muncul semua :)) Apakah TLKM takut kelihatan profit marginnya turun ?? Yg INI engga ada hubungan ama P/L , TLKM sih digunain buat NGADALIN IHSG seperti embah tulis kemaren... Atau ANTM TINS yang takut menunjukan peningkatan cost gara-gara biaya energy ?? TLKM -4,4%, BUMI -3,14% dan TINS +9% , IHSG -1,2% Angka2 CONTRAST ini SUDAH menunjukan si BOZZ lagi memulai SCENARIO BARU, apakah scenarionya ?. Embah lagi nebak nebak belon ketemu... Kalo index hari turun sih engga aneh karena hari Rabu dan Kamis SUDAH terjadi CAPITAL OUTFLOW... Benarkan PGAS kena forex loss mendekati 1T ?? Bagaimana dengan perbankan ?? Benarkah BMRI seperti yang digembar- gemborkan ?? Atau PTBA yang salesnya flat gara-gara kena peg oleh PLN ?? :D Let's see and have some fun Halim On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:41 PM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini terjadi Profit Taking sesudah dikeluarkannya laporan keuangan group Astra yg BAGUS... Betoel kan ? Selanjutnya kita liat aja Senin... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, partisipan membergroup2003@ wrote: Saya kurang setuju, - Perusahaan yang bagus punya komitmen tinggi untuk meningkatkan value termasuk pemenuhan kepatuhan ketentuan BEJ - - Original Message From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:45:23 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report Re: Cash 200% --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dwongso@ wrote: Bgmn James? Any hint for us? MARKET SENTIMENT akan ditimbulkan dengan dipublishnya lap Keuangan tahunan... Hari ini laporan tahunan beberapa emiten sudah bisa dilihat diweb BEI... Biasanya secara DISENGAJA atau TIDAK, laporan keuangan yang bagus akan dipublish DULUAN seperti group Astra... Jadi SENTIMEN positif akan dihembuskan kebursa duluan pake metoda FGLB (First Good Last Bad) supaya index positif dan PT bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA... At the END, Laporan keuangan yg jelek dan bermasalah keluar belakangan untuk bikin SENTIMEN negatif supaya index negatif dan Buy Back bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA pada BC yg bagus.. Buat yg engga percaya, coba perhatikan POLA yg diceritakan embah dalam sebulan INI... Sent from my BlackBerryÂ(R) wireless device -Original Message- From: PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG petter_pinulung@ ... Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:46:48 To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200% Pawang beruang, si Mbah dan mr. James Arifin belum kasih wangsit incoming tuh hehehehheeâ¦.  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:56 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200%  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan... tapi saya nambah reserve cash di porto trading (gak penting ya... hehe..). Seriously, saya males makan bangke.. Regards, DE PUMP and DUMP: STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE I borrow lots of stock from long term investors, let's say 10 million shares, with other asset as I Buy 200 from market, price goes up Retail buy 100, prices goes up even more I sell 250, price weakens Retail think it's cheap, wait.. I buy 200, price backs up Retail Buy more 150, yes this is a rally I sell 250, and so on... ... .. [prices keep higher everyday while I dump] .. .. Now I'm empty, so I stop trading Retail stucks, wondering why the price stops, then start profit taking. Price falls. Panic selling, price falls even more. I wait to pick at bottom, then return them to the original owner. We share profit. ::BCA:: _ ___ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
ko jadinya berantakan yak?? waduhh... nih di ulang yg 2007 estimatenya aja (Millions USD) INCOME STATEMENT Revenue2,291.9Less: Cost of Goods Sold 696.7Gross Profits1,595.2Less: Operating Expenses: Selling And G A Expenses Management and technical assistance 36.4 Professional fees4.5Employee Costs1.0Others 8.0Total Operating Expenses 49.9 Operating Profits1,545.3Add : Interest Income - Less: Interest Expense (2.5) Loss on Disposals of Property(20.0) Allowance for Obsolete Supplies (8.0) Currency Loss (2.0) Others (Inc/Loss) - Net Profits Before Taxes1,512.8 Less: Taxes (provision) 453.8Net Profit After Taxes 1,059Less: Pref. Stock Divds.-Earnings Available for Common Stockholders 1,059 Kayanya malah rada2 impresif deh kalo emang bisa segini, freecashflownya bkal bagus...
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
SON vs BOW – just the way it is the market works – again, again Happy chuan , Aria From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Halim Mintareja Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 7:02 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report Re: Cash 200% nah kalau INCO gimana ?? LK jelek tuh :D Sampai-sampai BUMN yang tahun lalu janji bulan Feb mau keluar pada takut muncul semua :)) Apakah TLKM takut kelihatan profit marginnya turun ?? Atau ANTM TINS yang takut menunjukan peningkatan cost gara-gara biaya energy ?? Benarkan PGAS kena forex loss mendekati 1T ?? Bagaimana dengan perbankan ?? Benarkah BMRI seperti yang digembar-gemborkan ?? Atau PTBA yang salesnya flat gara-gara kena peg oleh PLN ?? :D Let's see and have some fun Halim On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:41 PM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini terjadi Profit Taking sesudah dikeluarkannya laporan keuangan group Astra yg BAGUS... Betoel kan ? Selanjutnya kita liat aja Senin... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, partisipan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya kurang setuju, - Perusahaan yang bagus punya komitmen tinggi untuk meningkatkan value termasuk pemenuhan kepatuhan ketentuan BEJ - - Original Message From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:45:23 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report Re: Cash 200% --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dwongso@ wrote: Bgmn James? Any hint for us? MARKET SENTIMENT akan ditimbulkan dengan dipublishnya lap Keuangan tahunan... Hari ini laporan tahunan beberapa emiten sudah bisa dilihat diweb BEI... Biasanya secara DISENGAJA atau TIDAK, laporan keuangan yang bagus akan dipublish DULUAN seperti group Astra... Jadi SENTIMEN positif akan dihembuskan kebursa duluan pake metoda FGLB (First Good Last Bad) supaya index positif dan PT bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA... At the END, Laporan keuangan yg jelek dan bermasalah keluar belakangan untuk bikin SENTIMEN negatif supaya index negatif dan Buy Back bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA pada BC yg bagus.. Buat yg engga percaya, coba perhatikan POLA yg diceritakan embah dalam sebulan INI... Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG petter_pinulung@ ... Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:46:48 To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200% Pawang beruang, si Mbah dan mr. James Arifin belum kasih wangsit incoming tuh hehehehhee….  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:56 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200%  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan... tapi saya nambah reserve cash di porto trading (gak penting ya... hehe..). Seriously, saya males makan bangke.. Regards, DE PUMP and DUMP: STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE I borrow lots of stock from long term investors, let's say 10 million shares, with other asset as I Buy 200 from market, price goes up Retail buy 100, prices goes up even more I sell 250, price weakens Retail think it's cheap, wait.. I buy 200, price backs up Retail Buy more 150, yes this is a rally I sell 250, and so on... ... .. [prices keep higher everyday while I dump] .. .. Now I'm empty, so I stop trading Retail stucks, wondering why the price stops, then start profit taking. Price falls. Panic selling, price falls even more. I wait to pick at bottom, then return them to the original owner. We share profit. ::BCA:: _ ___ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links attachment: winmail.dat
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
Ada yang tahu kira-kira besaran deviden inco nantinya??? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ini estimate doank pak.. jadinya belon tentu begini, keluarnya di RUPS 26 Maret entar.. ini aNCER2 VERSI SAYAH AJAH... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Lah kalo kinclong gini koq pak Hmin bilang jelek? Apa saya kelewatan sesuatu? kang_ocoy_maen_saham kang_ocoy_maen_saham@ wrote: ko jadinya berantakan yak?? waduhh... nih di ulang yg 2007 estimatenya aja (Millions USD) INCOME STATEMENT Revenue 2,291.9 Less: Cost of Goods Sold 696.7 Gross Profits 1,595.2 Less: Operating Expenses: Selling And G A Expenses Management and technical assistance 36.4 Professional fees 4.5 Employee Costs 1.0 Others 8.0 Total Operating Expenses 49.9 Operating Profits 1,545.3 Add : Interest Income - Less: Interest Expense (2.5)Loss on Disposals of Property (20.0)Allowance for Obsolete Supplies (8.0)Currency Loss (2.0)Others (Inc/Loss) - Net Profits Before Taxes 1,512.8 Less: Taxes (provision) 453.8 Net Profit After Taxes 1,059 Less: Pref. Stock Divds. - Earnings Available for Common Stockholders 1,059 Kayanya malah rada2 impresif deh kalo emang bisa segini, freecashflownya bkal bagus... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
JAKARTA (Reuters) - PT International Nickel Indonesia INCO.JK said on Friday that net profit doubled last year as the firm was paid a higher average price for nickel and increased its total production. It said it expects its nickel output to increase 3 percent in 2008. Inco's net profit jumped to $1.17 billion last year from $513 million in 2006 a year earlier, with production rising 7 percent to 76,748 tonnes. Inco said its average realized nickel price jumped 63 percent in 2007 to $29,881 per ton. http://www.reuters.com/article/hotStocksNews/idUSJAK14519520080229 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nah kalau INCO gimana ?? LK jelek tuh :D Sampai-sampai BUMN yang tahun lalu janji bulan Feb mau keluar pada takut muncul semua :)) Apakah TLKM takut kelihatan profit marginnya turun ?? Atau ANTM TINS yang takut menunjukan peningkatan cost gara-gara biaya energy ?? Benarkan PGAS kena forex loss mendekati 1T ?? Bagaimana dengan perbankan ?? Benarkah BMRI seperti yang digembar-gemborkan ?? Atau PTBA yang salesnya flat gara-gara kena peg oleh PLN ?? :D Let's see and have some fun Halim On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:41 PM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini terjadi Profit Taking sesudah dikeluarkannya laporan keuangan group Astra yg BAGUS... Betoel kan ? Selanjutnya kita liat aja Senin... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, partisipan membergroup2003@ wrote: Saya kurang setuju, - Perusahaan yang bagus punya komitmen tinggi untuk meningkatkan value termasuk pemenuhan kepatuhan ketentuan BEJ - - Original Message From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:45:23 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report Re: Cash 200% --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dwongso@ wrote: Bgmn James? Any hint for us? MARKET SENTIMENT akan ditimbulkan dengan dipublishnya lap Keuangan tahunan... Hari ini laporan tahunan beberapa emiten sudah bisa dilihat diweb BEI... Biasanya secara DISENGAJA atau TIDAK, laporan keuangan yang bagus akan dipublish DULUAN seperti group Astra... Jadi SENTIMEN positif akan dihembuskan kebursa duluan pake metoda FGLB (First Good Last Bad) supaya index positif dan PT bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA... At the END, Laporan keuangan yg jelek dan bermasalah keluar belakangan untuk bikin SENTIMEN negatif supaya index negatif dan Buy Back bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA pada BC yg bagus.. Buat yg engga percaya, coba perhatikan POLA yg diceritakan embah dalam sebulan INI... Sent from my BlackBerryÂ(R) wireless device -Original Message- From: PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG petter_pinulung@ ... Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:46:48 To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200% Pawang beruang, si Mbah dan mr. James Arifin belum kasih wangsit incoming tuh hehehehheeâ¦.  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:56 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200%  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan... tapi saya nambah reserve cash di porto trading (gak penting ya... hehe..). Seriously, saya males makan bangke.. Regards, DE PUMP and DUMP: STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE I borrow lots of stock from long term investors, let's say 10 million shares, with other asset as I Buy 200 from market, price goes up Retail buy 100, prices goes up even more I sell 250, price weakens Retail think it's cheap, wait.. I buy 200, price backs up Retail Buy more 150, yes this is a rally I sell 250, and so on... ... .. [prices keep higher everyday while I dump] .. .. Now I'm empty, so I stop trading Retail stucks, wondering why the price stops, then start profit taking. Price falls. Panic selling, price falls even more. I wait to pick at bottom, then return them to the original owner. We share profit. ::BCA:: _ ___ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
kyanya ga jelek2 amat deh mbah., estimate saya sih P/Lnya kemungkinan bgini, INCO (In MillionsUSD) INCOME STATEMENT 2006 2007 Sales Revenue 1,337.72,291.9 Less: Cost of Goods Sold (569.9) (696.7)Gross Profits 767.8 1,595.2 Less: Operating Expenses: Selling And G A Expenses Management and technical assistance 24.1 36.4Professional fees2.5 4.5Employee Costs0.4 1.0Others5.2 8.0Total Operating Expenses 32.2 49.9Operating Profits 735.6 1,545.3Add : Interest Income 11.3 - Less: Interest Expense (2.0) (2.5) Loss on Disposals of Property (10.4) (20.0) Allowance for Obsolete Supplies (5.6) (8.0) Currency Loss (1.0) (2.0) Others (Inc/Loss) 17.0 - Net Profits Before Taxes 744.9 1,512.8Less: Taxes (provision) 231.5 453.8Net Profit After Taxes 513.4 1,059Less: Pref. Stock Divds. -Earnings Available for Common Stockholders 513.41,059 tp masih nunggu gimana di annualnya nanti sih, harusnya sih ancer2nya begitu... ada info lanjutan?? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja hmin918@ wrote: nah kalau INCO gimana ?? LK jelek tuh :D Makanya INCO naik dulu hari INI...hehehe Sampai-sampai BUMN yang tahun lalu janji bulan Feb mau keluar pada takut muncul semua :)) Apakah TLKM takut kelihatan profit marginnya turun ?? Yg INI engga ada hubungan ama P/L , TLKM sih digunain buat NGADALIN IHSG seperti embah tulis kemaren... Atau ANTM TINS yang takut menunjukan peningkatan cost gara-gara biaya energy ?? TLKM -4,4%, BUMI -3,14% dan TINS +9% , IHSG -1,2% Angka2 CONTRAST ini SUDAH menunjukan si BOZZ lagi memulai SCENARIO BARU, apakah scenarionya ?. Embah lagi nebak nebak belon ketemu... Kalo index hari turun sih engga aneh karena hari Rabu dan Kamis SUDAH terjadi CAPITAL OUTFLOW... Benarkan PGAS kena forex loss mendekati 1T ?? Bagaimana dengan perbankan ?? Benarkah BMRI seperti yang digembar- gemborkan ?? Atau PTBA yang salesnya flat gara-gara kena peg oleh PLN ?? :D Let's see and have some fun Halim On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:41 PM, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: Hari ini terjadi Profit Taking sesudah dikeluarkannya laporan keuangan group Astra yg BAGUS... Betoel kan ? Selanjutnya kita liat aja Senin... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, partisipan membergroup2003@ wrote: Saya kurang setuju, - Perusahaan yang bagus punya komitmen tinggi untuk meningkatkan value termasuk pemenuhan kepatuhan ketentuan BEJ - - Original Message From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:45:23 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report Re: Cash 200% --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dwongso@ wrote: Bgmn James? Any hint for us? MARKET SENTIMENT akan ditimbulkan dengan dipublishnya lap Keuangan tahunan... Hari ini laporan tahunan beberapa emiten sudah bisa dilihat diweb BEI... Biasanya secara DISENGAJA atau TIDAK, laporan keuangan yang bagus akan dipublish DULUAN seperti group Astra... Jadi SENTIMEN positif akan dihembuskan kebursa duluan pake metoda FGLB (First Good Last Bad) supaya index positif dan PT bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA... At the END, Laporan keuangan yg jelek dan bermasalah keluar belakangan untuk bikin SENTIMEN negatif supaya index negatif dan Buy Back bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA pada BC yg bagus.. Buat yg engga percaya, coba perhatikan POLA yg diceritakan embah dalam sebulan INI... Sent from my BlackBerryÂ(R) wireless device -Original Message- From: PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG petter_pinulung@ ... Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:46:48 To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200% Pawang beruang, si Mbah dan mr. James Arifin belum kasih wangsit incoming tuh hehehehheeâ¦.  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
Ada yang orat-oret katanya 400/share, mungkin nggak sih..? Kan mending ngelakuin swing, drpd nunggu deviden, hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ada yang tahu kira-kira besaran deviden inco nantinya??? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, kang_ocoy_maen_saham
[obrolan-bandar] market india
market india sudah - 4.20 %, tapi yang lain cuma - 1,nn % apakah market india yang turun bisa diabaikan ?
[obrolan-bandar] Market Outlook
Saya hanya ingin membagikan secuil informasi yang saya peroleh dari sumber yang menurut saya layak dipercaya, tidak ada maksud lain kecuali hanya ingin berbagi informasi dan berharap bahwa informasi ini dapat bermanfaat bagi teman2 sekalian. Tidak ada maksud untuk mempengaruhi keputusan jual dan beli teman2 sekalian, keputusan akhir tetap berada di tangan anda sekalian. Awal Feb indeks akan di bawa ke level 2.700 Pertengahan Feb akan keluar konfirmasi bahwa US RESESI, Index menuju 2000 Harapan saya teman2 berhati2 selalu dan jangan terlalu optimis. Dan seperti yang seorang teman katakan pada saya : Use WISDOM in FINAL DECISION Salam... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] Market nervousness
Nikkei melata kembali ke territori positif barusan, dan ini pandangan umum dari CNBC Asia ttg market hari ini ditulis sekitar 1 jam lalu, so better be on your toes.. Markets Are Nervous, Banks Get Spooked by Bonds By CNBC.com CNBC.com | 30 Jan 2008 | 07:23 PM ET Asian stocks were having a jittery morning session Thursday with markets dipping in and out of negative territory as fears of a possible downgrade of U.S. bond insurers hit financials. Investors were also closely watching Japanese corporate earnings with several companies, including *Sony*, posting results later in the session. The Dow initially rallied after the Federal Reserves 50 basis point interest rate cut Wednesday, but lost momentum in the final hour after CNBC reported that two big bond insurers were facing possible downgrades. The *Nikkei 225 Average * pared back early losses. Japanese banks slid on fresh worries about the subprime loan crisis a day after newspapers reported that subprime losses at No. 2 bank *Mizuho Financial Group *may have nearly doubled to $2.8 billion, potentially forcing the bank to further cut its forecast and plough more money into its struggling brokerage. Fears of a downgrade of bond insurers also hit financials. But a jump in *Yahoo Japan *shares helped to keep the market off its lows. Yahoo climbed over 8 percent after brokerages lifted their ratings on the Internet firm following a 13 percent increase in its quarterly profit. Seoul shares reversed early losses, to swing back into positive territory, up 1 percent. But SK Telecom, South Korea's top mobile carrier, was still down, after it reported a sharper-than-expected *76 percent fall in quarterly profit* http://www.cnbc.com/id/22922138/site/14081545/ as marketing costs to attract users for new services wiped out revenue growth. Australia's *SP/ASX 200 Index *fell as much as 3 percent in early trade, but regained its footing to trade flat. Resource stocks such as BHP Billiton and Rio Tinto advanced despite a fall in gold and base metals prices. But * Woolworths* slid as much as 5 percent, its lowest since August, after reporting lower second-quarter sales than expected on Wednesday. Singapore's *FTSE Straits Times Index* crept higher despite a negative start. (c) 2008 CNBC.com URL: http://www.cnbc.com/id/22920973/ -- MSN Privacy http://mobile.msn.com/device/en-us/privacy.aspx . Legalhttp://mobile.msn.com/device/en-us/terms.aspx (c) 2008 CNBC.com
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET LAGI STRESS.
Bila ini berlanjut lagi, maka yg lebih stress lagi adalah pemain marjin dan juga jangka pendek. Kami juga banyak ANTM diatas harga Rp. 5000, tapi kami tak pernah stress dan bahkan ribut / panik. Optimis saja karena ini adalah masalah ekternal. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET LAGI STRESS.
2008/1/22 Bumi T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bila ini berlanjut lagi, maka yg lebih stress lagi adalah pemain marjin dan juga jangka pendek. Kami juga banyak ANTM diatas harga Rp. 5000, tapi kami tak pernah stress dan bahkan ribut / panik. Optimis saja karena ini adalah masalah ekternal. Bener nih Tibum? Saya jg ada yang di 4900. hik hik Tapi gapapa. Uang nganggur koq.
[obrolan-bandar] market india closed today
india market ditutup gak lama setelah opening setelah drop sebesar -12%.. next day drop akan ditutup kalo drop -15%... BEI ada gak yah aturan gini? saved by the bell ;pp
LAPORAN Q4 = HORROR MOVIE RE: [obrolan-bandar] market today
Sekitar bulan September 2007, menjelang keluarnya laporan Q3, seorang analis di CNBC mengatakan bahwa laporan Q4 perusahaan-perusahaan AS bakal seperti serangkaian horror movies. Citibank sudah mulai. Siapa nyusul? RW From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamal Nasution Sent: 15 Januari 2008 5:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] market today indeks dow jones naik 117 point.. pertahanan gredel ala italy masih terjadi di dow.. closing market msh diatas 12500.. laporan keuangn kuartal 4 diperkirakan lebih bagus dari perkiraan analyst.. repot IBM yg cukup bagus memicu kerprecayan investor.. Naiknya harga komoditi jujga memicu spekulasi saham2 tambaang.. minyak naik ke US$94.5 dan emas breakhigh lagi us$912.. penguatan di dow akan memicu spekulasi beli di BEI terutama saham2 tambang.. ANTM akan bergerak liar menembus tembok 4550.. medc segera bangkit ke 5300..BUMI akan berusaha menembus 6500.. ASGR hanya mengikuti pergerakn saham IBM di dow.. Bagi pemegang tlkm kita harus sama2 sabar..he..he.. megang juga siyy.. UNTR layak ditradingin berita akusisi tambang batubara.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:jamal%40philli.co.id [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cikotok%40yahoo.com (yahoo messenger) www.poems.co.id __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[obrolan-bandar] market today
indeks dow jones naik 117 point.. pertahanan gredel ala italy masih terjadi di dow.. closing market msh diatas 12500.. laporan keuangn kuartal 4 diperkirakan lebih bagus dari perkiraan analyst.. repot IBM yg cukup bagus memicu kerprecayan investor.. Naiknya harga komoditi jujga memicu spekulasi saham2 tambaang.. minyak naik ke US$94.5 dan emas breakhigh lagi us$912.. penguatan di dow akan memicu spekulasi beli di BEI terutama saham2 tambang.. ANTM akan bergerak liar menembus tembok 4550.. medc segera bangkit ke 5300..BUMI akan berusaha menembus 6500.. ASGR hanya mengikuti pergerakn saham IBM di dow.. Bagi pemegang tlkm kita harus sama2 sabar..he..he.. megang juga siyy.. UNTR layak ditradingin berita akusisi tambang batubara.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED](yahoo messenger) www.poems.co.id Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[obrolan-bandar] market outlook 9082008
MARKET OUTLOOK Tuesday, January 08, 2008 Indonesia shares are likely to trade flat to slightly higher, but would prone to swift profit taking amid concerns over the continued weakness of the rupiah. Weak rupiah, however, could attract more foreign inflows benefiting from high yielding Indonesian assets. But, a mild selling by a local big fund may make the movement of the main index to be a so-so one. The central bank will later today announce its monthly meeting of board directors to determine the interest rate policy for January. It may leave interest rate unchanged at 8%, but I would be happy if it decides to increase it to 8.25%. The main index may go up and down by 22 points. Main index: 2749-2802 TLKM: 10,850-11,300. Chart says it may retest 10,450-resistance level and stay on hold for the rest of January above IDR10,100. Its ADRs in NY rose 3.1% to $43.14, or equal with IDR10,195 based on USD/IDR of IDR9,453. ISAT: 8,550-8,800. Its ADRs gained 0.4% to $45.50, or equal with IDR8,602. There is nothing much from the corporate side, but Indosat may remain a good defensive stock given an increase in foreign funds ownership in these shares. ANTM: 4,375-4,525. LME nickel yesterday ended up $100 at $28,200/ton. Chart says it may still be stuck within this range but would perform better if it fails to break below IDR4,375. Nickel prices have steadily improved amid a mild increase in demand, with stability would likely form after the second week of January. BUY on weakness or at any level below IDr4,200. TINS: 27,200-32,400. (REMINDER) Tin prices, due to its short supply would remain steady to higher in coming months, providing room for share prices to continue to increase. The 1-for-5 stock split plan may be executed when share price hit IDR35,000. BUMI: 6,250-6,600. Bumi has said it has capability to finance the acquisition of Australia's Herald. On the wider perspective and on the back of India's Tata, the company has received loans offer from foreign institutional funds and banks to help finance the acquisition. I still go with BUY on weakness. INDF: 2,675-2,875. The company may announce some price hikes of its noodle products to cover its cost of operations. Overall, I still have big doubt over the company's ability to maintain market share and pass on the rising cost to consumers given weakening trend of purchasing power. Hold CPRO: 415-465. ON CHART READING...the shares are likely to find a new trend, with bullish engulfment supporting the uptrend channel despite a slight decline in volume. Buy on weakness SPECIAL MENTION: Please take a good look at property and plantation companies. Monitoring: PTBA: 12,000-12,600 MDLN: 460-550 ENRG: 1,500-1650 DILD: 870-1,200 RMBA: 470-650 BNBR: 250-300 KAEF: 300-350 SGRO: 4,200-4,500 TBLA: 630-700 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Market lagi gak fun buat saya... jadi cash out dulu
Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan, tapi tadi saya cash out 100%. Stock pick tetap sama, masih seputar agri+mining. Tunggu sampai hati sreg dulu, baru masuk lagi. Yang dilego tadi A, B, M, L dan D. Ada bbrp yang belum meet target tapi biarin deh, mungkin bukan rejekinya. Regards, DE
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET HIJAU adalah KESEMPATAN JUALAN ..
[obrolan-bandar] Market outlook 3 Dec
MARKET OUTLOOK Thursday, January 03, 2008 Indonesia shares may trade lower, hurt by losses in most global markets after stocks in the U.S. plunged 1.7% amid concerns over rising oil prices and slow economy. It looks that all expectations to have a correction in the third week of January won't happen. It may happen even sooner and would likely start from today until January 9. High oil prices may balloon fuel subsidy and increase cost of operations. But, as long as the government could maintain a healthy budget and skip any plan to increase fuel prices inflation rate should remain manageable. A mild recovery in buying interest in most mining companies following an increase in metal base prices in London yesterday, however, should limit losses made by telecommunication, consumer and banking shares. The main index may go down as deep as 48 points, but could also rebound as swift as it drops. Main index: 2681-2740 S2: 2662 TLKM: 9,800-10,300. It may be stuck within this band for building volume. Its ADRs in NY fell moderately 1.1% to $41.53, or equal with IDR9,735, based on USD/IDR of IDR9,377. Now I am afraid of that the share price may tumble further if it breaks below the support level of IDR9,800. If it happens the next stop would be at IDR9,400. ISAT: 8,500-8,800. Its ADRs rose 0.5% to $46.86, or equal with IDR8,788. It looks that Indosat is more defensive than Telkom given its earlier call tariff price adjustment. Any price below IDR8,600 would be very interesting ones for mid term collection. On general perspective, I must say that I have to downgrade Telkom to short term sell until everything is clear with its tariff adjustment scheme and the government's plan to apply new tariff regime which would attract more customers in the following years. 2008 is a tough year for the telecommunication industry. ANTM: 4,375-4,550. LME 3-month nickel yesterday was up $950 to $27,225/ton ($12/lb). 2008 fund allocation begins to filter into prices of all base metals on the London Metal Exchange. On chart basis, Antam will still suffer a mild selling pressure but would give you proper gains if it hits below IDR4,350. BUY on weakness. PTBA: 11,700-12,400. Some invisible hands are maintaining these shares so that it won't tumble below IDR11,500. Overall, PTBA share price may likely be stuck within this band. BUT buy is at any price below IDR11,000. BUMI: 5,700-6,300. BUY at any level or on weakness. It's a good day for a one day trade. INCO: 94,000-97,000. stuck within this band as most fund managers would like to see the stock split to occur below IDR94,000. BMRI: 3,350-3,650. A strong buy is recommended if it hits below IDR3,400. PGAS: 14,700-16,400. High oil prices would mean something for PGAS, but increase in domestic cost of operations would also trim its revenue. Best buy is at any level below IDR14,500. SPECIAL MENTION: CPO-RELATED Companies: CPO prices have so far performed nicely and will be neck to neck with the oil prices in coming months. TBLA: It is now trading at a pbv of 2.86 times, compared with the average industry of 9 times. BUY at any level given its laggard status. Outlook is promising as the company will have its matured plantation in healthy condition. AALI: 26,500-30,000. It is now trading at a pbv of 13.2 times. It looks expensive but chart says it will only stop rising if it hits IDR30,000. UNSP: 2,200-2,500 SGRO: 3,200-3,800 (overbought signal remains) MONITORING: BTEL: 405-435 CPRO: 410-450 BRPT: 2,600-3,200 BBNI: 1,880-2,100 BBRI: 7,100-7,600 BDMN: 7,600-8,300 MEDC: 4,900-5,500 buy Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Market outlook 3 Jan..:)
MARKET OUTLOOK Thursday, January 03, 2008 Indonesia shares may trade lower, hurt by losses in most global markets after stocks in the U.S. plunged 1.7% amid concerns over rising oil prices and slow economy. It looks that all expectations to have a correction in the third week of January won't happen. It may happen even sooner and would likely start from today until January 9. High oil prices may balloon fuel subsidy and increase cost of operations. But, as long as the government could maintain a healthy budget and skip any plan to increase fuel prices inflation rate should remain manageable. A mild recovery in buying interest in most mining companies following an increase in metal base prices in London yesterday, however, should limit losses made by telecommunication, consumer and banking shares. The main index may go down as deep as 48 points, but could also rebound as swift as it drops. Main index: 2681-2740 S2: 2662 TLKM: 9,800-10,300. It may be stuck within this band for building volume. Its ADRs in NY fell moderately 1.1% to $41.53, or equal with IDR9,735, based on USD/IDR of IDR9,377. Now I am afraid of that the share price may tumble further if it breaks below the support level of IDR9,800. If it happens the next stop would be at IDR9,400. ISAT: 8,500-8,800. Its ADRs rose 0.5% to $46.86, or equal with IDR8,788. It looks that Indosat is more defensive than Telkom given its earlier call tariff price adjustment. Any price below IDR8,600 would be very interesting ones for mid term collection. On general perspective, I must say that I have to downgrade Telkom to short term sell until everything is clear with its tariff adjustment scheme and the government's plan to apply new tariff regime which would attract more customers in the following years. 2008 is a tough year for the telecommunication industry. ANTM: 4,375-4,550. LME 3-month nickel yesterday was up $950 to $27,225/ton ($12/lb). 2008 fund allocation begins to filter into prices of all base metals on the London Metal Exchange. On chart basis, Antam will still suffer a mild selling pressure but would give you proper gains if it hits below IDR4,350. BUY on weakness. PTBA: 11,700-12,400. Some invisible hands are maintaining these shares so that it won't tumble below IDR11,500. Overall, PTBA share price may likely be stuck within this band. BUT buy is at any price below IDR11,000. BUMI: 5,700-6,300. BUY at any level or on weakness. It's a good day for a one day trade. INCO: 94,000-97,000. stuck within this band as most fund managers would like to see the stock split to occur below IDR94,000. BMRI: 3,350-3,650. A strong buy is recommended if it hits below IDR3,400. PGAS: 14,700-16,400. High oil prices would mean something for PGAS, but increase in domestic cost of operations would also trim its revenue. Best buy is at any level below IDR14,500. SPECIAL MENTION: CPO-RELATED Companies: CPO prices have so far performed nicely and will be neck to neck with the oil prices in coming months. TBLA: It is now trading at a pbv of 2.86 times, compared with the average industry of 9 times. BUY at any level given its laggard status. Outlook is promising as the company will have its matured plantation in healthy condition. AALI: 26,500-30,000. It is now trading at a pbv of 13.2 times. It looks expensive but chart says it will only stop rising if it hits IDR30,000. UNSP: 2,200-2,500 SGRO: 3,200-3,800 (overbought signal remains) MONITORING: BTEL: 405-435 CPRO: 410-450 BRPT: 2,600-3,200 BBNI: 1,880-2,100 BBRI: 7,100-7,600 BDMN: 7,600-8,300 MEDC: 4,900-5,500 buy Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] market outlook, fyi only..happy holiday!!!
Wednesday, December 19, 2007 Indonesia shares may trade flat to slightly higher, but would still be prone to profit taking amid an absence of fresh leads and ahead of long holidays.Some impressive performance on debut by Indo Tambangraya will still also color the trade, although an idea to jack up share price to IDR22,000 looks too much!. I would prefer to have my investment in BUMI which is dubbed as the nation's LARGEST coal maker than in ITMG which only has a half size of BUMI.A plan to close the year above 2700 remains intact, so as holding up your investment until March would also be healthy. Main index today may be going up and down by 37 points to reflect caution and adjustment of portfolio. Main index: 2620-2684 TLKM: 10,000-10,400. Its ADRs in NY rose 2.2% to $44.30, or equal with IDR10,150. I must say now BUY at any level. KPPU investigation on text message fix pricing won't much hurt the industry. ISAT: 8,300-8,600. There has been a shifting of support from IDR8,500 to IDR8,250, which may become a level of accumulation if the stock is hit by selling pressure. It is now trading with a very moderate to low volume, which could reflect a mode of investment maintenance. Its ADRs in NY dropped 2.6% to $45.50, or equal with IDR8,544. PGAS: 14,550-15,600. PGAS is reported to file a lawsuit against local media which wrongly translated buckle to leakagefunny and only happens here in Indonesia. On chart basis, PGAS has potential to rebound and retest the resistance level of IDR15,300. ANTM: 4,000-4,700. It has been moving as expected. LME nickel needs to move above the $30,000 a metric ton level in order to improve the market's immediate tone. But, there is heavy resistance in this area from several key mid-term moving averages, which will look to cap any advances toward this region. LME nickel yesterday traded at $25,825/ton, or down 2.5% from Monday's high. On technical point of view, Antam may still suffer from price correction, but would give good opportunity to buy if it falls below IDR4,000. BMRI: 3,250-3,450. Bank Mandiri may report a very strong 2007 earnings due to low loan loss provisions stemming from better bad debt management. It is now only trading at a PBV of 2.4 times, compared with 3 times of the industrial average. I still go with BUY on weakness ASII: 24,500-29,000. It may be trading wide, with rebound may take place if it fails to break below 25,300-strong support. BUY at the lower end of the range. ITMG: 16,500-22,000. Some are still desperate to jack up share price to IDR22,000, which could be successful given assets cornering during the IPO. But, fishing big retailers to get in the ride would cause in negative impact and may result in short trade practices. SPECIAL MENTION: BUMI: 5,600-6,000. (AGAIN) It may be stuck within this band for a while. Any correction should be considered a gift given company's future outlook. Coal sales are expected to rise to 100 million metric tons by 2010 from 52 million tons at present, compared with 20 million tons by 2009 of Indo Tambangraya Megah. And BUMI plans to buy Australia's Heralds could show that the company has long term vision. It is a hostile take over and no one at Heralds would be able to stop it. BUY on weakness MONITORING: TRUB: 1,400-1,620 TBLA: 590-660 PTBA: 11,400-11,900 TINS: 25,400-29,000 UNSP: 2,000-2,200 SULI: 3,200-4,200 BRPT: 2,775-2,900 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Market Outlook...BUMI BOW 2008 most valuable stock!
MARKET OUTLOOK Tuesday, December 18, 2007 Indonesia shares may trade sharply lower, dragged down by selling across global markets after stocks in the U.S. tumbled again overnight due to economic worries.Selling in Telkom should also worsen the situation, but a support of 9,750 may be good for accumulation.Nothing much we can do, but setting up investment for March 2008 is the aim. So, either average down your investment or hold your position would be wise for three-month investment. Please bear in mind that correction is still underway to fill in gap of the main index at 2580-2620.The rupiah has weakened to IDR9,415, which is not good for investment. This as I said in the previous outlooks due mostly to the interest rate cut. And I must say that the expected year-end window dressing would be far away from occurring given the above negative factors. But, a local big fund may enter the market whenever the main index falls below 2590. The main index may go down and up by 89 points Main index: 2584-2681 TLKM: 9,800-10,200. Its ADRs in NY fell 7.1% to $41.88, or equal with IDR9,857, based on USD/IDR of 9,415. BUY at the lower end of the range or at any level below IDR9,900. TLKM is a laggard stock, but KPPU new investigation on price fixing for Telkomsel's text message services has so far resulted in negative sentiment. ISAT: 8,500-9,000. Its ADRs fell 4.7% to $46.73, or equal with IDR8,800/share. Chart says it looks steadier if it hits below IDR8,650. I still go with buy at the lower end of the range. BMRI: 3,125-3,375. Weird charting should remain on table, but IDR3,125 is irresistible for mid term investment. BUY on weakness PGAS: 14,000-15,500. Chart says it may be among the hardest hit by selling pressure. BUT, any price below IDR14,000 is worth collecting. ANTM: 3,900-4,400. Nickel prices on LME fell 3.6%, or $800 to $25,650 per ton. Support at $25,000, which if it hits it will drove Antam share price to below IDR4,000. Avoid for a while ASII: 24,500-26,500 Profit taking may continue to fill in gap of between IDR24,000-24,200. Buy at the lower end of the range. Car sales have recovered gradually and may return normal next year amid hopes of steady interest rates environment. Talks over possible stock split also remain BUMI: 5,400-6,100. BUMI may become the only shares that would have big potential to rebound. BUY at the lower end of the range. INDOTAMBANG RAYA (ITMR): 12,000-16,600. It looks that the underwriter would work hard on commitment to maintain share price afloat as expected. I would say sell on strength as BUMI is more attractive than SPECIAL MENTION: LTLS: 390-490. It is now trading below its book value of IDR678. Outlook looks improving on its plan to become one of the largest producers of ethyl alcohol. BUY on weakness MONITORING: PTBA: 10,600-11,500 LSIP: 9,400-10,200 UNSP: 1,960-2,100 BUDI: 280-320 MEDC: 4,700-5,300 MLIA: 300-390 KAEF: 300-340 Wahyu edi Widodo SID-LKBN PT.Danareksa Sekuritas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0818841171 081399180101 fax:021-3501355 up:wahyuew Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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[obrolan-bandar] Market Outlook, CPO,TLKM,etc
MARKET OUTLOOK Friday, November 23, 2007 Indonesia shares may continue to trade in a directionless mode amid an absence of fresh leads, with lingering concerns over high oil prices and weak rupiah weighing down overall sentiment. But, as happened yesterday, a local big fund may continue to support the main index to float above 2530 for investment maintenance. The central bank early next month (December 6) would likely keep its key interest rate unchanged at 8.25% to weather impacts from weak rupiah and limit inflationary pressure. Any surprise move of cutting the rate would be considered as a gift. The main index may go down and Up by 32 points. Main index: 2534-2604 R2: 2626 TLKM: 10,100-10,400. It must be stuck in this range for a temporary consolidation, with best buying remaining at any level below IDR9,950. Nothing much from the corporate side, but some officials at Telkom told me that the company is setting up a new investment plan for 2008, which includes plan of acquisition and expanding company's business to be more regional... ISAT: 8,200-8,900. Nine-month earnings came in very well on spot, beating most analysts forecast. KPPU's decision must make Indosat a target of acquisition by foreign companies. BUY on weakness BMRI: 3,250-3,475. Chart says it is oversold, with IDR3,200 has proven to a be a strong support. A 32.18% retrace at IDR3,625 may be tested within 12 sessions or so... PGAS: 15,700-16,400. Chart says it looks more than stable to hold the bullish trend intact. Buy at the lower end on the range as target of IDR19,000 would be faster than expected... ASII: 21,100-23,300 Profit taking may continue to fill in gap of between IDR21,600-21,900. Buy at the lower end of the range. Car sales have recovered gradually and may return normal next year amid hopes of lower interest rates environment. Talks over possible stock split are also heating the trading floor... ANTM: 4,250-4,500. London Metal Exchange base metals found some footing from the week's losses Thursday, except for LME lead and nickel, with conditions seen volatile until fresh direction emerges. LME nickel slipped to a fresh two-month low of $28,600 a metric ton. I am still with a BUY at the lower end of the range... BUMI: 4,000-4,500. It may remain in a consolidation mode and building volume. The 12-month target has been revised upward to IDR6,200 to confront with the company's robust business outlook. BUY on weakness or at any level below IDR4,000. SPECIAL MENTION: AGAIN: all shares in palm-oil related companies. CPO prices in the world market continue to rise. MONITORING: PTBA: 9,800-10,900 LSIP: 9,000-10,200 UNSP: 2,075-2,350 TBLA: 620-690 MEDC: 4900-5,600 CPRO: 440-540 buy ETWA: 390-450 MIRA: 500-740 spec buy Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Outlook, CPO,TLKM,etc
SGRO ??? --- Salomo Gaol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AALI nya kok ndak ada ? Rgrds, SLG On Nov 23, 2007 10:35 PM, Kalyana Mitta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MARKET OUTLOOK Friday, November 23, 2007 Indonesia shares may continue to trade in a directionless mode amid an absence of fresh leads, with lingering concerns over high oil prices and weak rupiah weighing down overall sentiment. But, as happened yesterday, a local big fund may continue to support the main index to float above 2530 for investment maintenance. The central bank early next month (December 6) would likely keep its key interest rate unchanged at 8.25% to weather impacts from weak rupiah and limit inflationary pressure. Any surprise move of cutting the rate would be considered as a gift. The main index may go down and Up by 32 points. Main index: 2534-2604 R2: 2626 TLKM: 10,100-10,400. It must be stuck in this range for a temporary consolidation, with best buying remaining at any level below IDR9,950. Nothing much from the corporate side, but some officials at Telkom told me that the company is setting up a new investment plan for 2008, which includes plan of acquisition and expanding company's business to be more regional... ISAT: 8,200-8,900. Nine-month earnings came in very well on spot, beating most analysts forecast. KPPU's decision must make Indosat a target of acquisition by foreign companies. BUY on weakness BMRI: 3,250-3,475. Chart says it is oversold, with IDR3,200 has proven to a be a strong support. A 32.18% retrace at IDR3,625 may be tested within 12 sessions or so... PGAS: 15,700-16,400. Chart says it looks more than stable to hold the bullish trend intact. Buy at the lower end on the range as target of IDR19,000 would be faster than expected... ASII: 21,100-23,300 Profit taking may continue to fill in gap of between IDR21,600-21,900. Buy at the lower end of the range. Car sales have recovered gradually and may return normal next year amid hopes of lower interest rates environment. Talks over possible stock split are also heating the trading floor... ANTM: 4,250-4,500. London Metal Exchange base metals found some footing from the week's losses Thursday, except for LME lead and nickel, with conditions seen volatile until fresh direction emerges. LME nickel slipped to a fresh two-month low of $28,600 a metric ton. I am still with a BUY at the lower end of the range... BUMI: 4,000-4,500. It may remain in a consolidation mode and building volume. The 12-month target has been revised upward to IDR6,200 to confront with the company's robust business outlook. BUY on weakness or at any level below IDR4,000. SPECIAL MENTION: AGAIN: all shares in palm-oil related companies. CPO prices in the world market continue to rise. MONITORING: PTBA: 9,800-10,900 LSIP: 9,000-10,200 UNSP: 2,075-2,350 TBLA: 620-690 MEDC: 4900-5,600 CPRO: 440-540 buy ETWA: 390-450 MIRA: 500-740 spec buy Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Diskusi, Konseling dan Konsultasi GRATIS secara on-line tentang PERENCANAAN KEUANGAN. Untuk bergabung kirimkan email kosong ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kirim pertanyaan atau komentar ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
