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could you kindly make it to a 1500 points rally to match mr firmansyah 3600 target ? too much to ask hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Dearest Investors.. Despite all the bad news that have been floating around lately, I will proudly say WELCOME BULL. you wanna cut loss on Monday? LOOOLLL give me all of them, and you will surely regret it for the rest of your life. Banks, property, commodities and telecomms are ready to ride my bull warriors. NO FEAR, KILL ALL BEARS You asked about my neutrality? Well, I will say I AM NOT AND NEVER BE NEUTRAL. I go bearish when it's near top, and bullish when it's near bottom. I am not trader, I set target. And my target is +1000 rally. (so far only 10% or around +100, but it's running well, hey I like it nice and slow :). The volatility is still and always be there, so it really depends on your investment style. Are you BOW type investors? Buy high sell higher? Signal watchers? Macro/sectoral analyzer? Or are you a buy lowest sell highest type investor like me? ^^ Elaine** *
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*Greedy bastard lol... 3600 will happen sometime next year. Elaine** * On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could you kindly make it to a 1500 points rally to match mr firmansyah 3600 target ? too much to ask hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Dearest Investors.. Despite all the bad news that have been floating around lately, I will proudly say WELCOME BULL. you wanna cut loss on Monday? LOOOLLL give me all of them, and you will surely regret it for the rest of your life. Banks, property, commodities and telecomms are ready to ride my bull warriors. NO FEAR, KILL ALL BEARS You asked about my neutrality? Well, I will say I AM NOT AND NEVER BE NEUTRAL. I go bearish when it's near top, and bullish when it's near bottom. I am not trader, I set target. And my target is +1000 rally. (so far only 10% or around +100, but it's running well, hey I like it nice and slow :). The volatility is still and always be there, so it really depends on your investment style. Are you BOW type investors? Buy high sell higher? Signal watchers? Macro/sectoral analyzer? Or are you a buy lowest sell highest type investor like me? ^^ Elaine** *
[obrolan-bandar] Re: KILL ALL BEARS
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Absolutely. Well riots also happen in England after a soccer game, and in some rock concert, so^^ Everything is well anticipated. E V E R Y T H I N G. Tomorrow we may see a red. Take advantage of it. lol you don't have to listen to me if you don't have the gut, that will make my job easier. Stock market is not for the faint hearted. And why would anyone call me a general? You can call me Elaine. ^^ Inflation? Schminflation. Yes, I know the poor will be hit hard by this, SO HELP THEM. HOW OFTEN DO YOU SHARE YOUR PROFIT? do you ever give a smile to them, no? Being capitalist doesnt mean not having a heart. Just take a look at this photo, very touchy.. SIP : HENDRIK alo EL ^.^ uda pagi, kok belum bo2... lagi kasi makan kebo ya,he3... yup inti permasalah ekonomi adalah pemusatan keuangan, yang punya uang ga mau bagi yang kurang punya sehingga yang kaya makin kaya, yang miskin makin miskin dan ga bisa berbuat apa2... percumka kita kritik pemerintah dan teriak2 inflasi tapi ga berbuat apa2..mulailah dari yang kecil. ada ngga yang penah mikir buat buka lapangan pekejaan buat orang yang ngga mampu. janga jadikan mereka pengemis dengan hanya ngasi uang, tapi buat juga mereka belajar dan bisa berkarya.. kekayan orang indonesia super duper buesaar.. tapi tepusat hanya padakurang dari 1000 orang saja (sekitar 500 miliar dollar) dan yang hampir 20 juta jiwa hidup di bawah garis kemiskinan. mulailah dri hal yang peing kecil yang bisa anda lakukan, mulailah dari diri sendiri. dolgado.blogspot.com
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*Of course not, Embah, cuz I'm not really care if someone is following me or not... lol why you keep calling me a general? That sounds big, but doesn't really fit me. I'm not even supposed to be exist here. Elaine** * On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 12:22 PM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EL, Embah admire your courage... Mudah mudah anda tidak stress dengan posisi anda sebagai jendral.. FYI: - Embah LEBIH stress kalo lagi jadi jendral daripada trading saham sendiri. Meskipun misalnya ternyata embah BENER, embah suka merasa LEMAH ampe berhari hari, apalagi kalo salah... GOOD LUCK then ALL the best for you... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Dearest Investors.. Despite all the bad news that have been floating around lately, I will proudly say WELCOME BULL. you wanna cut loss on Monday? LOOOLLL give me all of them, and you will surely regret it for the rest of your life. Banks, property, commodities and telecomms are ready to ride my bull warriors. NO FEAR, KILL ALL BEARS You asked about my neutrality? Well, I will say I AM NOT AND NEVER BE NEUTRAL. I go bearish when it's near top, and bullish when it's near bottom. I am not trader, I set target. And my target is +1000 rally. (so far only 10% or around +100, but it's running well, hey I like it nice and slow :). The volatility is still and always be there, so it really depends on your investment style. Are you BOW type investors? Buy high sell higher? Signal watchers? Macro/sectoral analyzer? Or are you a buy lowest sell highest type investor like me? ^^ Elaine** *
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Keberangkatan agak sedikit terganggu karena cuaca buruk, pilot sedang menunggu saat yang tepat dan memastikan tidak ada gangguan dalam perjalanan. Masih ada tempat kosong di kelas BISNIS untuk anda Mr TBumi.., tapi anda harus bayar lebih MAHAL untuk tujuan yang sama…. Dan anda ngga perlu bekel paha ayam kopi panas.., ntar juga disediain sama pramugari yang cantik-cantik….. Salam, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of t_bumi Sent: 10 Mei 2008 12:54 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: KILL ALL BEARS --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha..ha..ha…si EL puyeng juga rupanya…kirain cuma gw doang…, sip lah sekarang ada yang nemenin.., masak EL mau diem aja kalo ihsg rontok…, ya ngga EL? SIP : TBUMI Bila puyeng, ingatlah BODREX No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.14/1425 - Release Date: 09/05/2008 12:38 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.14/1425 - Release Date: 09/05/2008 12:38
[obrolan-bandar] Re: KILL ALL BEARS
Jenderal Elaine, jangan STRESS ya... Saya masih SUPPORT Jenderal u/ market BULLISH... Walaupun karung gw masih kosong, gw lebih suka nunggu IDX di atas... Tapi apa boleh bwt klo market berkata lain alias DOWN... Gw juga akan setia menunggunya sampai ada confirm BULLISH... Enjoy aza Jenderal, keputusan kadang juga bisa salah... Regards, PTLS --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha..ha..ha si EL puyeng juga rupanya kirain cuma gw doang , sip lah sekarang ada yang nemenin.., masak EL mau diem aja kalo ihsg rontok , ya ngga EL? Well, It's a Prove embernya EL udah penuh.., kalo ngga pasti dia udah teriak teriak nuke lagi , he..he..he.. Senin jangan ngesort ya EL kita pinjem aja ember tetangga yg banyak. Udh, santai aja EL.. better enjoy your weekend Salam, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elaine Sent: 10 Mei 2008 11:49 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] KILL ALL BEARS Dearest Investors.. Despite all the bad news that have been floating around lately, I will proudly say WELCOME BULL. you wanna cut loss on Monday? LOOOLLL give me all of them, and you will surely regret it for the rest of your life. Banks, property, commodities and telecomms are ready to ride my bull warriors. NO FEAR, KILL ALL BEARS You asked about my neutrality? Well, I will say I AM NOT AND NEVER BE NEUTRAL. I go bearish when it's near top, and bullish when it's near bottom. I am not trader, I set target. And my target is +1000 rally. (so far only 10% or around +100, but it's running well, hey I like it nice and slow :). The volatility is still and always be there, so it really depends on your investment style. Are you BOW type investors? Buy high sell higher? Signal watchers? Macro/sectoral analyzer? Or are you a buy lowest sell highest type investor like me? ^^ Elaine No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.14/1425 - Release Date: 09/05/2008 12:38 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.14/1425 - Release Date: 09/05/2008 12:38
[obrolan-bandar] Re: KILL ALL BEARS
Elaine capek yha..ntar kaka pinjitin deh biar ga stress lagi yha. santai aja lagi keep posting yha say --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Dearest Investors.. Despite all the bad news that have been floating around lately, I will proudly say WELCOME BULL. you wanna cut loss on Monday? LOOOLLL give me all of them, and you will surely regret it for the rest of your life. Banks, property, commodities and telecomms are ready to ride my bull warriors. NO FEAR, KILL ALL BEARS You asked about my neutrality? Well, I will say I AM NOT AND NEVER BE NEUTRAL. I go bearish when it's near top, and bullish when it's near bottom. I am not trader, I set target. And my target is +1000 rally. (so far only 10% or around +100, but it's running well, hey I like it nice and slow :). The volatility is still and always be there, so it really depends on your investment style. Are you BOW type investors? Buy high sell higher? Signal watchers? Macro/sectoral analyzer? Or are you a buy lowest sell highest type investor like me? ^^ Elaine** *
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Elaine mana pernah stress, yang stress tuh yang baca posting dia lage.. hehe.. (termasuk gw) Lagi greedy disuruh jual, lagi ketakutan suruh beli.. Dulu tongkrongan bear, sekarang naik bull, tapi nyali singa (asal jangan muka badak aja..) j/k El.. :) Jadi bullish ya (longterm), ok, saya jadi voorijder deh.., tapi kl ternyata mbrojol ke 2000 juga gpp, anggap aja lagi extended sale.. Regards, DE On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, petualang.saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jenderal Elaine, jangan STRESS ya... Saya masih SUPPORT Jenderal u/ market BULLISH... Walaupun karung gw masih kosong, gw lebih suka nunggu IDX di atas... Tapi apa boleh bwt klo market berkata lain alias DOWN... Gw juga akan setia menunggunya sampai ada confirm BULLISH... Enjoy aza Jenderal, keputusan kadang juga bisa salah... Regards, PTLS
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Mbah,El, Sekarangkan harga crude oil mahal sekali USD 125/bl, sehinga dalam waktu dekat pemerintah akan naikkan BBM, akibatnya inflasi tinggi, bisa-bisa BI rate naik lagi. Inikan berdampak negatif bagi Banking, property,consumer (daya beli rakyat turun). Apakah our JSX still rally to be 3200 (+1000 from lowest this year?) Tolong pencerahannya TQ L - Original Message From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:22:45 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: KILL ALL BEARS EL, Embah admire your courage... Mudah mudah anda tidak stress dengan posisi anda sebagai jendral.. FYI: - Embah LEBIH stress kalo lagi jadi jendral daripada trading saham sendiri. Meskipun misalnya ternyata embah BENER, embah suka merasa LEMAH ampe berhari hari, apalagi kalo salah... GOOD LUCK then ALL the best for you... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Elaine you.can.call. me.elaine@ ... wrote: *Dearest Investors.. Despite all the bad news that have been floating around lately, I will proudly say WELCOME BULL. you wanna cut loss on Monday? LOOOLLL give me all of them, and you will surely regret it for the rest of your life. Banks, property, commodities and telecomms are ready to ride my bull warriors. NO FEAR, KILL ALL BEARS You asked about my neutrality? Well, I will say I AM NOT AND NEVER BE NEUTRAL. I go bearish when it's near top, and bullish when it's near bottom. I am not trader, I set target. And my target is +1000 rally. (so far only 10% or around +100, but it's running well, hey I like it nice and slow :). The volatility is still and always be there, so it really depends on your investment style. Are you BOW type investors? Buy high sell higher? Signal watchers? Macro/sectoral analyzer? Or are you a buy lowest sell highest type investor like me? ^^ Elaine** * Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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Wah...wah, tadinya dah kepikiran cash 200% on Monday, berubah deh jadinya mau nambah invest lagi neh...Mau ikutan sisa rally 90%nya Jendral Elaine Cut Nyak Dien, eh apalagi kalau didukung ma Jendral DE Naga Bonar, woowww bisa Super Bul tuh...hehheee --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elaine mana pernah stress, yang stress tuh yang baca posting dia lage.. hehe.. (termasuk gw) Lagi greedy disuruh jual, lagi ketakutan suruh beli.. Dulu tongkrongan bear, sekarang naik bull, tapi nyali singa (asal jangan muka badak aja..) j/k El.. :) Jadi bullish ya (longterm), ok, saya jadi voorijder deh.., tapi kl ternyata mbrojol ke 2000 juga gpp, anggap aja lagi extended sale.. Regards, DE On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, petualang.saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jenderal Elaine, jangan STRESS ya... Saya masih SUPPORT Jenderal u/ market BULLISH... Walaupun karung gw masih kosong, gw lebih suka nunggu IDX di atas... Tapi apa boleh bwt klo market berkata lain alias DOWN... Gw juga akan setia menunggunya sampai ada confirm BULLISH... Enjoy aza Jenderal, keputusan kadang juga bisa salah... Regards, PTLS
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amin amin. tapi gak janji ye.. Regards, DE 2008/5/10 icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wah...wah, tadinya dah kepikiran cash 200% on Monday, berubah deh jadinya mau nambah invest lagi neh...Mau ikutan sisa rally 90%nya Jendral Elaine Cut Nyak Dien, eh apalagi kalau didukung ma Jendral DE Naga Bonar, woowww bisa Super Bul tuh...hehheee --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elaine mana pernah stress, yang stress tuh yang baca posting dia lage.. hehe.. (termasuk gw) Lagi greedy disuruh jual, lagi ketakutan suruh beli.. Dulu tongkrongan bear, sekarang naik bull, tapi nyali singa (asal jangan muka badak aja..) j/k El.. :) Jadi bullish ya (longterm), ok, saya jadi voorijder deh.., tapi kl ternyata mbrojol ke 2000 juga gpp, anggap aja lagi extended sale.. Regards, DE On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, petualang.saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jenderal Elaine, jangan STRESS ya... Saya masih SUPPORT Jenderal u/ market BULLISH... Walaupun karung gw masih kosong, gw lebih suka nunggu IDX di atas... Tapi apa boleh bwt klo market berkata lain alias DOWN... Gw juga akan setia menunggunya sampai ada confirm BULLISH... Enjoy aza Jenderal, keputusan kadang juga bisa salah... Regards, PTLS
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Gak janji juga gak papa Bung DE,kan tetap disclaimer, heheh Btw..thanks banget tuk INDF nya dah cuan, nutupin rugi kemarin.. Keep posting ya Bung... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: amin amin. tapi gak janji ye.. Regards, DE 2008/5/10 icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wah...wah, tadinya dah kepikiran cash 200% on Monday, berubah deh jadinya mau nambah invest lagi neh...Mau ikutan sisa rally 90%nya Jendral Elaine Cut Nyak Dien, eh apalagi kalau didukung ma Jendral DE Naga Bonar, woowww bisa Super Bul tuh...hehheee --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ wrote: Elaine mana pernah stress, yang stress tuh yang baca posting dia lage.. hehe.. (termasuk gw) Lagi greedy disuruh jual, lagi ketakutan suruh beli.. Dulu tongkrongan bear, sekarang naik bull, tapi nyali singa (asal jangan muka badak aja..) j/k El.. :) Jadi bullish ya (longterm), ok, saya jadi voorijder deh.., tapi kl ternyata mbrojol ke 2000 juga gpp, anggap aja lagi extended sale.. Regards, DE On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, petualang.saham petualang.saham@ wrote: Jenderal Elaine, jangan STRESS ya... Saya masih SUPPORT Jenderal u/ market BULLISH... Walaupun karung gw masih kosong, gw lebih suka nunggu IDX di atas... Tapi apa boleh bwt klo market berkata lain alias DOWN... Gw juga akan setia menunggunya sampai ada confirm BULLISH... Enjoy aza Jenderal, keputusan kadang juga bisa salah... Regards, PTLS
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Di sini Mbah menjalankan fungsinya sbg stabilizer atau mengimbang, takut semua pada gelap mata ngarepin bull terus kejedut sampe benjol2...kalo milis terlalu optimis, Mbah muncul sbg unsur pengimbang dan begitu sebaliknya. Mbah, you are the best cause you love us! jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EL, Embah admire your courage... Mudah mudah anda tidak stress dengan posisi anda sebagai jendral.. FYI: - Embah LEBIH stress kalo lagi jadi jendral daripada trading saham sendiri. Meskipun misalnya ternyata embah BENER, embah suka merasa LEMAH ampe berhari hari, apalagi kalo salah... GOOD LUCK then ALL the best for you... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Dearest Investors.. Despite all the bad news that have been floating around lately, I will proudly say WELCOME BULL. you wanna cut loss on Monday? LOOOLLL give me all of them, and you will surely regret it for the rest of your life. Banks, property, commodities and telecomms are ready to ride my bull warriors. NO FEAR, KILL ALL BEARS You asked about my neutrality? Well, I will say I AM NOT AND NEVER BE NEUTRAL. I go bearish when it's near top, and bullish when it's near bottom. I am not trader, I set target. And my target is +1000 rally. (so far only 10% or around +100, but it's running well, hey I like it nice and slow :). The volatility is still and always be there, so it really depends on your investment style. Are you BOW type investors? Buy high sell higher? Signal watchers? Macro/sectoral analyzer? Or are you a buy lowest sell highest type investor like me? ^^ Elaine** * - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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Lemah apa lemes..hehe..., biasa kalau habis bersetubuh (dgn market) pasti lemes laa.., Cuma mbah yang bisa mengcounter Elaine ataw mungkin Elaine sudah tahu kalau oil mau crash? (oil pernah crash gak ya..??) Make sense, karena kenaikan minyak saat ini (yang jadi benchmark inflasi) adalah: 1. Pelemahan USD, karena fed rate (bisa berbalik kalau fed stop/naikin rate) 2. Krisis di venezuela, nigeria, iran, irak (insidentil, tidak fundamental, kecuali minyaknya diambil alien) 3. Spekulasi untuk hedging inflasi (reaktif) 4. Growth di asia (india, china) Demand memang naik, tapi sepertinya tidak eksponensial seperti chart oil. CNBC juga bilang oil dibawah $100 akhir tahun.http://www.cnbc.com/id/24540234 Tapi engga perlu stres mikirin global economy (spt kong buffett bilang), justru kesempatan buat beli saham yang outperform (progresif earning bagus) dengan harga diskon (undervalue). DE mau yang simpel aja: *FA* 1. EPS growth 15% per tahun 2. P/E dibawah industri 3. Mining/Agri/Property (hehe ketahuan bgt deh) *TA* 1. Long term bullish, short term correction 2. Likuid 4. Pake MACD + Fibo aja. Sektor lain gak begitu interest. Saat ini sy masih pegang mining+agri+ makan indomie rasa udang. Mungkin bd yang baca email ini mau ngerjain, sok atuh, keknya banyak yang hepi malah. hehe.. Agak nekat ya pegang barang disaat kritis kaya gini, makanya sy dengan rendah hati bilang: *BUKAN AJAKAN, BUKAN HIMBAUAN* * Did you know? Year to date, DJI outperforms Shanghai and Bombay Sensex Kalau orang ke #3 (Bill Gates) dan #4 (Lakshmi Mittal) terkaya di dunia versi forbes jauh-jauh berkunjung ke Indonesia, kira-kira mau ngapain ya? Orang-orang ini bisa dikategorikan sebagai smart money, kl gak, mana mungkin bisa tajir kek gitu. Apakah nunggu #1 (Warren Buffett) dan #2 (Carlos Slim) dateng baru mau bullish? Kenaikan (inflasi) adalah realita, harus dihadapi cepat atau lambat. jadi Optimis sajalah™ * Regards, DE 2008/5/10 edwinkdr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Embah LEBIH stress kalo lagi jadi jendral daripada trading saham sendiri. Meskipun misalnya ternyata embah BENER, embah suka merasa LEMAH ampe berhari hari, apalagi kalo salah... Sudah pasti mbah...:-) Karena dari perjalanan yg sudah2 itu menunjukkan Embah secara personal mempunyai karakter seorang pemimpin yg baik dan merasa mempunyai tanggung jawab secara moral..^^ Sekalipun masing2 dari kita yg ikut embah sudah mempunyai analisa keputusan sendiri, tapi tentunya TRUST itu lebih mejadi beban buat embah sendiri apalagi kalo memang pasar sedang tdk bersahabat dengan keputusan yg embah buat :-) Dan tentunya diikuti oleh yg nurut sama embah, termasuk saya...ha ha NOW, muncul lagi tandingan embah...ELaine...Good luck dech:-) Sebenarnya BUKAN NETRAL Harga naik atau turun, tapi mungkin NETRAL itu lebih kepada analisa dari pembacaan arah pasar, dan keyakinan memimpin arah pasar ke depan:-) Seorang pemimpin : 1. Ing Ngarso Sung tulodho -- Di Garis DEPAN berani mengambil KEPUTUSAN dan memberi CONTOH TINDAKAN. 2. Ing Madya Mbangun Karsa -- Di tengah - tengah perjalanan KEPUTUSAN tsb, berani memberi MOTIVASI untuk bangkit dan maju bersama. 3. Tut Wuri Handayani -- Setelah semua FINE, dia akan mundur kebelakang mengikuti dan memperhatikan. Semoga sukses dan Good Luck.:-) Bagi seorang pemimpin HONESTY is NUMBER ONE, selanjutnya belajar untuk menjadi PANDAI atau PINTAR atau CERDIK...:-) Tks Best Regards
[obrolan-bandar] Re: KILL ALL BEARS
Oil pernah crash pak DE, waktu itu $78 trus anjlok kia2 $20 dalam waktu singkat soalnya waktu itu saya beli etf USO di Amex pas lagi tinggi2-nya :( toh akhirnya cuan juga. Jadi, maksud pak DE, kalo oil crash index akan bullish kan...harga oil yg tinggi sekali skrg kan jadi momok ekonomi, tapi ya mau nggak mau spt anda bilang, it's the fact so we have to deal with it. Oil possible dibawah $100, tapi rasanya tidak $70-80 lagi. Who knows juga lah... Thks! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lemah apa lemes..hehe..., biasa kalau habis bersetubuh (dgn market) pasti lemes laa.., Cuma mbah yang bisa mengcounter Elaine ataw mungkin Elaine sudah tahu kalau oil mau crash? (oil pernah crash gak ya..??) Make sense, karena kenaikan minyak saat ini (yang jadi benchmark inflasi) adalah: 1. Pelemahan USD, karena fed rate (bisa berbalik kalau fed stop/naikin rate) 2. Krisis di venezuela, nigeria, iran, irak (insidentil, tidak fundamental, kecuali minyaknya diambil alien) 3. Spekulasi untuk hedging inflasi (reaktif) 4. Growth di asia (india, china) Demand memang naik, tapi sepertinya tidak eksponensial seperti chart oil. CNBC juga bilang oil dibawah $100 akhir tahun.http://www.cnbc.com/id/24540234 Tapi engga perlu stres mikirin global economy (spt kong buffett bilang), justru kesempatan buat beli saham yang outperform (progresif earning bagus) dengan harga diskon (undervalue). DE mau yang simpel aja: *FA* 1. EPS growth 15% per tahun 2. P/E dibawah industri 3. Mining/Agri/Property (hehe ketahuan bgt deh) *TA* 1. Long term bullish, short term correction 2. Likuid 4. Pake MACD + Fibo aja. Sektor lain gak begitu interest. Saat ini sy masih pegang mining+agri+ makan indomie rasa udang. Mungkin bd yang baca email ini mau ngerjain, sok atuh, keknya banyak yang hepi malah. hehe.. Agak nekat ya pegang barang disaat kritis kaya gini, makanya sy dengan rendah hati bilang: *BUKAN AJAKAN, BUKAN HIMBAUAN* * Did you know? Year to date, DJI outperforms Shanghai and Bombay Sensex Kalau orang ke #3 (Bill Gates) dan #4 (Lakshmi Mittal) terkaya di dunia versi forbes jauh-jauh berkunjung ke Indonesia, kira-kira mau ngapain ya? Orang-orang ini bisa dikategorikan sebagai smart money, kl gak, mana mungkin bisa tajir kek gitu. Apakah nunggu #1 (Warren Buffett) dan #2 (Carlos Slim) dateng baru mau bullish? Kenaikan (inflasi) adalah realita, harus dihadapi cepat atau lambat. jadi Optimis sajalahE * Regards, DE 2008/5/10 edwinkdr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Embah LEBIH stress kalo lagi jadi jendral daripada trading saham sendiri. Meskipun misalnya ternyata embah BENER, embah suka merasa LEMAH ampe berhari hari, apalagi kalo salah... Sudah pasti mbah...:-) Karena dari perjalanan yg sudah2 itu menunjukkan Embah secara personal mempunyai karakter seorang pemimpin yg baik dan merasa mempunyai tanggung jawab secara moral..^^ Sekalipun masing2 dari kita yg ikut embah sudah mempunyai analisa keputusan sendiri, tapi tentunya TRUST itu lebih mejadi beban buat embah sendiri apalagi kalo memang pasar sedang tdk bersahabat dengan keputusan yg embah buat :-) Dan tentunya diikuti oleh yg nurut sama embah, termasuk saya...ha ha NOW, muncul lagi tandingan embah...ELaine...Good luck dech:-) Sebenarnya BUKAN NETRAL Harga naik atau turun, tapi mungkin NETRAL itu lebih kepada analisa dari pembacaan arah pasar, dan keyakinan memimpin arah pasar ke depan:-) Seorang pemimpin : 1. Ing Ngarso Sung tulodho -- Di Garis DEPAN berani mengambil KEPUTUSAN dan memberi CONTOH TINDAKAN. 2. Ing Madya Mbangun Karsa -- Di tengah - tengah perjalanan KEPUTUSAN tsb, berani memberi MOTIVASI untuk bangkit dan maju bersama. 3. Tut Wuri Handayani -- Setelah semua FINE, dia akan mundur kebelakang mengikuti dan memperhatikan. Semoga sukses dan Good Luck.:-) Bagi seorang pemimpin HONESTY is NUMBER ONE, selanjutnya belajar untuk menjadi PANDAI atau PINTAR atau CERDIK...:-) Tks Best Regards
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Paling juga Jenderal Elaine yang bwt FALSE BREAKOUT... Tersangkanya sudah jelas... He.. he.. he.. Masak sdh jd Jenderal msh suka nipu PASUKAN El... Gimana Jenderal masih STRESS??? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Betul, paling sip tunggu breakout baru beli , masalahnya ada yg namanya FALSE breakout ., nyundul sebentar trus ambles lagi.., sama aja resikonya... Jadi ngga semudah itu lah , semua strategy beresiko.., selama resiko sudah anda perhitungkan dan anda siap menghadapinya go for it. Salam, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andi Wahyudi Sent: 10 Mei 2008 14:01 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] KILL ALL BEARS Boleh komentar dikit ya.. Tugas Bozz dan EL sebenarnya mudah yaitu cuman mengantarkan saham2 yg berFUNDAMENTAL BAGUS ke titik breakout dengan segala kriteria breakout yang meyakinkan Ada beberapa strategi untuk masuk ke suatu saham yg berFUNDAMENTAL BAGUS yaitu menunggu saat breakout daripada menunggu terlalu lama. Bisa stress sendiri dan bisa-bisa cut loss dech Maaf kalau salah, maklum masih nyubi JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha..ha..ha si EL puyeng juga rupanya kirain cuma gw doang , sip lah sekarang ada yang nemenin.., masak EL mau diem aja kalo ihsg rontok , ya ngga EL? Well, It's a Prove embernya EL udah penuh.., kalo ngga pasti dia udah teriak teriak nuke lagi , he..he..he.. Senin jangan ngesort ya EL kita pinjem aja ember tetangga yg banyak. Udh, santai aja EL.. better enjoy your weekend Salam, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elaine Sent: 10 Mei 2008 11:49 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] KILL ALL BEARS Dearest Investors.. Despite all the bad news that have been floating around lately, I will proudly say WELCOME BULL. you wanna cut loss on Monday? LOOOLLL give me all of them, and you will surely regret it for the rest of your life. Banks, property, commodities and telecomms are ready to ride my bull warriors. NO FEAR, KILL ALL BEARS You asked about my neutrality? Well, I will say I AM NOT AND NEVER BE NEUTRAL. I go bearish when it's near top, and bullish when it's near bottom. I am not trader, I set target. And my target is +1000 rally. (so far only 10% or around +100, but it's running well, hey I like it nice and slow :). The volatility is still and always be there, so it really depends on your investment style. Are you BOW type investors? Buy high sell higher? Signal watchers? Macro/sectoral analyzer? Or are you a buy lowest sell highest type investor like me? ^^ Elaine No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.14/1425 - Release Date: 09/05/2008 12:38 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.14/1425 - Release Date: 09/05/2008 12:38 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.14/1425 - Release Date: 09/05/2008 12:38 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.14/1425 - Release Date: 09/05/2008 12:38
[obrolan-bandar] Re: KILL ALL BEARS
Ngga gitu banget deh...kalopun ada demo tidak sebesar 1998 karena saat ini demo bukan utk menggulingkan kekuasaan spt th 1998. Investor akan menerima kalo kenaikan BBM dibawah 30% dan kayenya sekitar 15-20% saja. Mungkin Investor Besar sudah dapat BOCORAN makanya Jumat kemaren sudah masuk di bbrp sektor Finance the gang...inikan TANDA-TANDA BULL. rgs, Jm --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Adam Rajsha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: itu yg saya takutkan dalam 1-2 minggu kedepan, bukan index mo ke 2000, tapi kerusuhan sosial karena masyarakat udah banyak yg prustasi dng semua kenaikan harga barang, padahal BBM belum naik, ngak bisa kebayang dech kalo BBM naik nantinya, harga2 makin melangit...;( tanggal 6 may lalu analisa HSBC mengatakan oil bakal ke $125, pada ditanggal tsb harga oil masih di $120. ternyata analisa tsb tepat banget malah sekarang udah $126. sekitar desember 07 lalu, HSBC prediksi the fed bakal nurunin suku bunga hingga 2%-an, padahal waktu analisa tsb direlease, suku bunga the fed masih dikisaran 4% (agak lupa tepatnya). dan sekarang terbukti. jumat kemaren (9 may 08), HSBC release analisa bahwa oil akan ke $200 dalam 1-2 tahun kedepan. oh my god, moga2 aja analisa HSBC ini akan salah. oiya, denger2 senin depan bakal ada demo besar... moga2 semua berjalan baik2 aja. weleh weleh.. gagal dech mo jadi longterm investor salam, AR On 5/10/08, Vincent Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: u sure el? even when oil hit$150-170? and probably riots in indo? *Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: *Dearest Investors.. Despite all the bad news that have been floating around lately, I will proudly say WELCOME BULL. you wanna cut loss on Monday? LOOOLLL give me all of them, and you will surely regret it for the rest of your life. Banks, property, commodities and telecomms are ready to ride my bull warriors. NO FEAR, KILL ALL BEARS You asked about my neutrality? Well, I will say I AM NOT AND NEVER BE NEUTRAL. I go bearish when it's near top, and bullish when it's near bottom. I am not trader, I set target. And my target is +1000 rally. (so far only 10% or around +100, but it's running well, hey I like it nice and slow :). The volatility is still and always be there, so it really depends on your investment style. Are you BOW type investors? Buy high sell higher? Signal watchers? Macro/sectoral analyzer? Or are you a buy lowest sell highest type investor like me? ^^ Elaine** * -- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt= Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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Tongkrongannya di INCO, AALI ama INDF paling top deh terutama AALI yah khan bung DE. On 5/10/08, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lemah apa lemes..hehe..., biasa kalau habis bersetubuh (dgn market) pasti lemes laa.., Cuma mbah yang bisa mengcounter Elaine ataw mungkin Elaine sudah tahu kalau oil mau crash? (oil pernah crash gak ya..??) Make sense, karena kenaikan minyak saat ini (yang jadi benchmark inflasi) adalah: 1. Pelemahan USD, karena fed rate (bisa berbalik kalau fed stop/naikin rate) 2. Krisis di venezuela, nigeria, iran, irak (insidentil, tidak fundamental, kecuali minyaknya diambil alien) 3. Spekulasi untuk hedging inflasi (reaktif) 4. Growth di asia (india, china) Demand memang naik, tapi sepertinya tidak eksponensial seperti chart oil. CNBC juga bilang oil dibawah $100 akhir tahun. Tapi engga perlu stres mikirin global economy (spt kong buffett bilang), justru kesempatan buat beli saham yang outperform (progresif earning bagus) dengan harga diskon (undervalue). DE mau yang simpel aja: FA 1. EPS growth 15% per tahun 2. P/E dibawah industri 3. Mining/Agri/Property (hehe ketahuan bgt deh) TA 1. Long term bullish, short term correction 2. Likuid 4. Pake MACD + Fibo aja. Sektor lain gak begitu interest. Saat ini sy masih pegang mining+agri+ makan indomie rasa udang. Mungkin bd yang baca email ini mau ngerjain, sok atuh, keknya banyak yang hepi malah. hehe.. Agak nekat ya pegang barang disaat kritis kaya gini, makanya sy dengan rendah hati bilang: BUKAN AJAKAN, BUKAN HIMBAUAN Did you know? Year to date, DJI outperforms Shanghai and Bombay Sensex Kalau orang ke #3 (Bill Gates) dan #4 (Lakshmi Mittal) terkaya di dunia versi forbes jauh-jauh berkunjung ke Indonesia, kira-kira mau ngapain ya? Orang-orang ini bisa dikategorikan sebagai smart money, kl gak, mana mungkin bisa tajir kek gitu. Apakah nunggu #1 (Warren Buffett) dan #2 (Carlos Slim) dateng baru mau bullish? Kenaikan (inflasi) adalah realita, harus dihadapi cepat atau lambat. jadi Optimis sajalah™ Regards, DE 2008/5/10 edwinkdr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Embah LEBIH stress kalo lagi jadi jendral daripada trading saham sendiri. Meskipun misalnya ternyata embah BENER, embah suka merasa LEMAH ampe berhari hari, apalagi kalo salah... Sudah pasti mbah...:-) Karena dari perjalanan yg sudah2 itu menunjukkan Embah secara personal mempunyai karakter seorang pemimpin yg baik dan merasa mempunyai tanggung jawab secara moral..^^ Sekalipun masing2 dari kita yg ikut embah sudah mempunyai analisa keputusan sendiri, tapi tentunya TRUST itu lebih mejadi beban buat embah sendiri apalagi kalo memang pasar sedang tdk bersahabat dengan keputusan yg embah buat :-) Dan tentunya diikuti oleh yg nurut sama embah, termasuk saya...ha ha NOW, muncul lagi tandingan embah...ELaine...Good luck dech:-) Sebenarnya BUKAN NETRAL Harga naik atau turun, tapi mungkin NETRAL itu lebih kepada analisa dari pembacaan arah pasar, dan keyakinan memimpin arah pasar ke depan:-) Seorang pemimpin : 1. Ing Ngarso Sung tulodho -- Di Garis DEPAN berani mengambil KEPUTUSAN dan memberi CONTOH TINDAKAN. 2. Ing Madya Mbangun Karsa -- Di tengah - tengah perjalanan KEPUTUSAN tsb, berani memberi MOTIVASI untuk bangkit dan maju bersama. 3. Tut Wuri Handayani -- Setelah semua FINE, dia akan mundur kebelakang mengikuti dan memperhatikan. Semoga sukses dan Good Luck.:-) Bagi seorang pemimpin HONESTY is NUMBER ONE, selanjutnya belajar untuk menjadi PANDAI atau PINTAR atau CERDIK...:-) Tks Best Regards + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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EL, Embah admire your courage... Mudah mudah anda tidak stress dengan posisi anda sebagai jendral.. FYI: - Embah LEBIH stress kalo lagi jadi jendral daripada trading saham sendiri. Meskipun misalnya ternyata embah BENER, embah suka merasa LEMAH ampe berhari hari, apalagi kalo salah... GOOD LUCK then ALL the best for you... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Dearest Investors.. Despite all the bad news that have been floating around lately, I will proudly say WELCOME BULL. you wanna cut loss on Monday? LOOOLLL give me all of them, and you will surely regret it for the rest of your life. Banks, property, commodities and telecomms are ready to ride my bull warriors. NO FEAR, KILL ALL BEARS You asked about my neutrality? Well, I will say I AM NOT AND NEVER BE NEUTRAL. I go bearish when it's near top, and bullish when it's near bottom. I am not trader, I set target. And my target is +1000 rally. (so far only 10% or around +100, but it's running well, hey I like it nice and slow :). The volatility is still and always be there, so it really depends on your investment style. Are you BOW type investors? Buy high sell higher? Signal watchers? Macro/sectoral analyzer? Or are you a buy lowest sell highest type investor like me? ^^ Elaine** *
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Boleh nanya mbah? Kalo Good Luck dari Mbah, he..he..he..artinya your on your on atau Mbah akan support EL, sehingga plan agendanya EL dapat tercapai secara lebih mudah? jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EL, Embah admire your courage... Mudah mudah anda tidak stress dengan posisi anda sebagai jendral.. FYI: - Embah LEBIH stress kalo lagi jadi jendral daripada trading saham sendiri. Meskipun misalnya ternyata embah BENER, embah suka merasa LEMAH ampe berhari hari, apalagi kalo salah... GOOD LUCK then ALL the best for you... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Dearest Investors.. Despite all the bad news that have been floating around lately, I will proudly say WELCOME BULL. you wanna cut loss on Monday? LOOOLLL give me all of them, and you will surely regret it for the rest of your life. Banks, property, commodities and telecomms are ready to ride my bull warriors. NO FEAR, KILL ALL BEARS You asked about my neutrality? Well, I will say I AM NOT AND NEVER BE NEUTRAL. I go bearish when it's near top, and bullish when it's near bottom. I am not trader, I set target. And my target is +1000 rally. (so far only 10% or around +100, but it's running well, hey I like it nice and slow :). The volatility is still and always be there, so it really depends on your investment style. Are you BOW type investors? Buy high sell higher? Signal watchers? Macro/sectoral analyzer? Or are you a buy lowest sell highest type investor like me? ^^ Elaine** * - Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answers
[obrolan-bandar] Re: KILL ALL BEARS
- Embah LEBIH stress kalo lagi jadi jendral daripada trading saham sendiri. Meskipun misalnya ternyata embah BENER, embah suka merasa LEMAH ampe berhari hari, apalagi kalo salah... Sudah pasti mbah...:-) Karena dari perjalanan yg sudah2 itu menunjukkan Embah secara personal mempunyai karakter seorang pemimpin yg baik dan merasa mempunyai tanggung jawab secara moral..^^ Sekalipun masing2 dari kita yg ikut embah sudah mempunyai analisa keputusan sendiri, tapi tentunya TRUST itu lebih mejadi beban buat embah sendiri apalagi kalo memang pasar sedang tdk bersahabat dengan keputusan yg embah buat :-) Dan tentunya diikuti oleh yg nurut sama embah, termasuk saya...ha ha NOW, muncul lagi tandingan embah...ELaine...Good luck dech:-) Sebenarnya BUKAN NETRAL Harga naik atau turun, tapi mungkin NETRAL itu lebih kepada analisa dari pembacaan arah pasar, dan keyakinan memimpin arah pasar ke depan:-) Seorang pemimpin : 1. Ing Ngarso Sung tulodho -- Di Garis DEPAN berani mengambil KEPUTUSAN dan memberi CONTOH TINDAKAN. 2. Ing Madya Mbangun Karsa -- Di tengah - tengah perjalanan KEPUTUSAN tsb, berani memberi MOTIVASI untuk bangkit dan maju bersama. 3. Tut Wuri Handayani -- Setelah semua FINE, dia akan mundur kebelakang mengikuti dan memperhatikan. Semoga sukses dan Good Luck.:-) Bagi seorang pemimpin HONESTY is NUMBER ONE, selanjutnya belajar untuk menjadi PANDAI atau PINTAR atau CERDIK...:-) Tks Best Regards --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EL, Embah admire your courage... Mudah mudah anda tidak stress dengan posisi anda sebagai jendral.. FYI: - Embah LEBIH stress kalo lagi jadi jendral daripada trading saham sendiri. Meskipun misalnya ternyata embah BENER, embah suka merasa LEMAH ampe berhari hari, apalagi kalo salah... GOOD LUCK then ALL the best for you... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine you.can.call.me.elaine@ wrote: *Dearest Investors.. Despite all the bad news that have been floating around lately, I will proudly say WELCOME BULL. you wanna cut loss on Monday? LOOOLLL give me all of them, and you will surely regret it for the rest of your life. Banks, property, commodities and telecomms are ready to ride my bull warriors. NO FEAR, KILL ALL BEARS You asked about my neutrality? Well, I will say I AM NOT AND NEVER BE NEUTRAL. I go bearish when it's near top, and bullish when it's near bottom. I am not trader, I set target. And my target is +1000 rally. (so far only 10% or around +100, but it's running well, hey I like it nice and slow :). The volatility is still and always be there, so it really depends on your investment style. Are you BOW type investors? Buy high sell higher? Signal watchers? Macro/sectoral analyzer? Or are you a buy lowest sell highest type investor like me? ^^ Elaine** *
[obrolan-bandar] Re: KILL ALL BEARS
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha..ha..ha si EL puyeng juga rupanya kirain cuma gw doang , sip lah sekarang ada yang nemenin.., masak EL mau diem aja kalo ihsg rontok , ya ngga EL? SIP : TBUMI Bila puyeng, ingatlah BODREX
