Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-28 Terurut Topik ghadiwinata
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Subject: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks



More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks


There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting 
less than 1% in interest



MoneyBlog - According to some estimates, investors have parked more than 
$3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market funds 
waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the game. Of 
course, some make the argument that if things return to normal, that tremendous 
liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster recovery possible. Still, 
by recent standards, that amount is staggering

and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number might 
entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of this year.

Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any retreats 
in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief. The market 
continues to feed on its own momentum. 

I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the sidelines 
waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz, principal at Gregory 
J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we haven't had any major pullbacks, 
these people sitting on the sidelines are finally pulling the trigger, saying, 
'I can't wait any longer.'  

According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies and 
oversees ICI activities
As this link shows :
http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09


There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting less 
than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared and do 
the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when stocks fall. 
Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which were selling at 
generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into bonds, CDs and Gold






  



Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik It's Elaine!
*This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been going
nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and bonds.
*
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah pusatdu...@yahoo.comwrote:


 More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks


 Published: October 22, 2009


 According to some estimates, investors have parked more than
 $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market
 funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the
 game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal,
 that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster
 recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering

 and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number might
 entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of this
 year.

 Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any
 retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief.
 The market continues to feed on its own momentum.

 I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the
 sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz,
 principal at Gregory J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we haven't
 had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally
 pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' 

 According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies and
 oversees ICI activities
 As this link shows :
 http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09


 There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting
 less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared
 and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when
 stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which
 were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into
 bonds, CDs and Gold









 

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Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik highwaystar91
Yes, and waiting to get back in...at a discount. Right, El?
Sent from my computer of course!

-Original Message-
From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

*This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been going
nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and bonds.
*
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah pusatdu...@yahoo.comwrote:


 More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks


 Published: October 22, 2009


 According to some estimates, investors have parked more than
 $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market
 funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the
 game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal,
 that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster
 recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering

 and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number might
 entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of this
 year.

 Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any
 retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief.
 The market continues to feed on its own momentum.

 I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the
 sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz,
 principal at Gregory J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we haven't
 had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally
 pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' 

 According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies and
 oversees ICI activities
 As this link shows :
 http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09


 There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting
 less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared
 and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when
 stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which
 were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into
 bonds, CDs and Gold









 

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Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik It's Elaine!
*Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you..

*

   - *Why investor buy stocks?*


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM, highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote:



 Yes, and waiting to get back in...at a discount. Right, El?

 Sent from my computer of course!
 --
 *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy
 stocks



 *This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been
 going nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and
 bonds.
 *
 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah pusatdu...@yahoo.comwrote:


 More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks


 Published: October 22, 2009


 According to some estimates, investors have parked more than
 $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market
 funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the
 game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal,
 that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster
 recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering

 and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number
 might entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of
 this year.

 Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any
 retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief.
 The market continues to feed on its own momentum.

 I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the
 sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz,
 principal at Gregory J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we haven't
 had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally
 pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' 

 According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies
 and oversees ICI activities
 As this link shows :
 http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09


 There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting
 less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared
 and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when
 stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which
 were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into
 bonds, CDs and Gold









 

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Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik highwaystar91
To get return of course over the LT
Sent from my computer of course!

-Original Message-
From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:24:32 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

*Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you..

*

   - *Why investor buy stocks?*


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM, highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote:



 Yes, and waiting to get back in...at a discount. Right, El?

 Sent from my computer of course!
 --
 *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy
 stocks



 *This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been
 going nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and
 bonds.
 *
 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah pusatdu...@yahoo.comwrote:


 More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks


 Published: October 22, 2009


 According to some estimates, investors have parked more than
 $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market
 funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the
 game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal,
 that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster
 recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering

 and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number
 might entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of
 this year.

 Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any
 retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief.
 The market continues to feed on its own momentum.

 I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the
 sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz,
 principal at Gregory J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we haven't
 had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally
 pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' 

 According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies
 and oversees ICI activities
 As this link shows :
 http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09


 There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting
 less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared
 and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when
 stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which
 were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into
 bonds, CDs and Gold









 

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Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik Vincent Chase
to get poor

--- On Thu, 10/22/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:

From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 3:24 AM






 





  Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you..

Why investor buy stocks?
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM,  highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote:

































Yes, and waiting to get back in...at a discount. Right, El?Sent from my 
computer of course!From:  It's Elaine! elainesui83@ gmail.com
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 +0700To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
comSubject: Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy 
stocks



 


  This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money 
has been going nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold 
and bonds.



On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah pusatdu...@yahoo. com wrote:




More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks





Published: October 22, 2009





According to some estimates, investors have parked more than $3,000,000,000, 
000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market funds waiting for the 
markets to calm down before jumping back into the game. Of course, some make 
the argument that if things return to normal, that tremendous liquidity would 
come roaring back in, making a faster recovery possible. Still, by recent 
standards, that amount is staggering







and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number might 
entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of this year.



Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any retreats 
in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief. The market 
continues to feed on its own momentum.



I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the sidelines 
waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz, principal at Gregory 
J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we haven't had any major pullbacks, 
these people sitting on the sidelines are finally pulling the trigger, saying, 
'I can't wait any longer.' 







According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies and 
oversees ICI activities

As this link shows :

http://www.ici. org/research/ stats/mmf/ mm_09_24_ 09





There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting less 
than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared and do 
the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when stocks fall. 
Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which were selling at 
generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into bonds, CDs and Gold























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Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik boyz®
OK hon, thx...
Kalo news yg ttg ini udah baca dari bbrp waktu yg lalu.

Salam,



On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:17 AM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comwrote:



 *This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been
 going nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and
 bonds.
 *




Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik Einhernjar
Tumben Mas, biasanya ceritenye serem-serem mulu

 he3x, salam

On 10/22/09, dunia ini indah pusatdu...@yahoo.com wrote:

 More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks


 Published: October 22, 2009


 According to some estimates, investors have parked more than
 $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market
 funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the
 game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal,
 that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster
 recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering

 and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number might
 entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of this
 year.

 Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any
 retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief.
 The market continues to feed on its own momentum.

 I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the
 sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz,
 principal at Gregory J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we haven't
 had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally
 pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' 

 According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies and
 oversees ICI activities
 As this link shows :
 http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09


 There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting
 less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared
 and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when
 stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which
 were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into
 bonds, CDs and Gold










Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)
to rule the world or to control a country or to own a company or
simply because he can.



On 10/22/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:
 *Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you..

 *

- *Why investor buy stocks?*


 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM, highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote:



 Yes, and waiting to get back in...at a discount. Right, El?

 Sent from my computer of course!
 --
 *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy
 stocks



 *This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been
 going nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and
 bonds.
 *
 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah
 pusatdu...@yahoo.comwrote:


 More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks


 Published: October 22, 2009


 According to some estimates, investors have parked more than
 $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market
 funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the
 game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal,
 that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster
 recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering

 and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number
 might entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of
 this year.

 Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any
 retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief.
 The market continues to feed on its own momentum.

 I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the
 sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz,
 principal at Gregory J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we
 haven't
 had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are
 finally
 pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' 

 According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies
 and oversees ICI activities
 As this link shows :
 http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09


 There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds
 collecting
 less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just
 scared
 and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when
 stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities,
 which
 were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled
 into
 bonds, CDs and Gold









 

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Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik dario kurniawan
 expect the value of stock to rise and we wish to receive dividens (read: bukan 
dapetin uang dengan trading-in saham), menurut gw itu jawaban normatif tapi 
emang bener, nah kalo udah masuk politis atur sendiri deh jawabannya...yg 
penting kalo diajarin di sekolah ya jawabannya yg awal tadi hehehe...

udah ahhh..ini mah debat investor sama trader...ga ada meeting point-nya

Dario Amran

--- Pada Kam, 22/10/09, CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000) cumie...@gmail.com menulis:

Dari: CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000) cumie...@gmail.com
Judul: Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Kamis, 22 Oktober, 2009, 10:35 AM






 





  to rule the world or to control a country or to own a company 
or

simply because he can.



On 10/22/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ gmail.com wrote:

 *Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you..



 *



- *Why investor buy stocks?*





 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM, highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote:







 Yes, and waiting to get back in...at a discount. Right, El?



 Sent from my computer of course!

  - -

 *From: * It's Elaine! elainesui83@ gmail.com

 *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 +0700

 *To: *obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

 *Subject: *Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy

 stocks







 *This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been

 going nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and

 bonds.

 *

 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah

 pusatdu...@yahoo. comwrote:





 More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks





 Published: October 22, 2009





 According to some estimates, investors have parked more than

 $3,000,000,000, 000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market

 funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the

 game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal,

 that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster

 recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering



 and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number

 might entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of

 this year.



 Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any

 retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief.

 The market continues to feed on its own momentum.



 I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the

 sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz,

 principal at Gregory J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we

 haven't

 had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are

 finally

 pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' 



 According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies

 and oversees ICI activities

 As this link shows :

 http://www.ici. org/research/ stats/mmf/ mm_09_24_ 09





 There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds

 collecting

 less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just

 scared

 and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when

 stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities,

 which

 were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled

 into

 bonds, CDs and Gold



















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Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik edwin lumanto
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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:24:32
Subject: Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

  
Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you..


* Why investor buy stocks?   


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Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik Rei
Betul pak Dario, gak ada duitnya debat ginian hehehe

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:49 AM, dario kurniawan 
darioamran1...@yahoo.co.id wrote:



  expect the value of stock to rise and we wish to receive dividens (read:
 bukan dapetin uang dengan trading-in saham), menurut gw itu jawaban
 normatif tapi emang bener, nah kalo udah masuk politis atur sendiri deh
 jawabannya...yg penting kalo diajarin di sekolah ya jawabannya yg awal tadi
 hehehe...

 udah ahhh..ini mah debat investor sama trader...ga ada meeting point-nya

 *Dario Amran*

 --- Pada *Kam, 22/10/09, CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000) cumie...@gmail.com*menulis:


 Dari: CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000) cumie...@gmail.com
 Judul: Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy
 stocks
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Tanggal: Kamis, 22 Oktober, 2009, 10:35 AM



 to rule the world or to control a country or to own a company or
 simply because he can.

 On 10/22/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ 
 gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=elainesui83%40gmail.com
 wrote:
  *Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you..
 
  *
 
  - *Why investor buy stocks?*
 
 
  On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM, highwaystar91@ 
  gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=highwaystar91%40gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Yes, and waiting to get back in...at a discount. Right, El?
 
  Sent from my computer of course!
   - -
  *From: * It's Elaine! elainesui83@ 
  gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=elainesui83%40gmail.com
 
  *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 +0700
  *To: *obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
  comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 
  *Subject: *Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to
 buy
  stocks
 
 
 
  *This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been
  going nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and
  bonds.
  *
  On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah
  pusatdu...@yahoo. com http://mc/compose?to=pusatdunia%40yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 
  More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks
 
 
  Published: October 22, 2009
 
 
  According to some estimates, investors have parked more than
  $3,000,000,000, 000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money
 market
  funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the
  game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to
 normal,
  that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster
  recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is
 staggering
 
  and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number
  might entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end
 of
  this year.
 
  Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any
  retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and
 brief.
  The market continues to feed on its own momentum.
 
  I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the
  sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz,
  principal at Gregory J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we
  haven't
  had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are
  finally
  pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' 
 
  According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies
  and oversees ICI activities
  As this link shows :
  http://www.ici. org/research/ stats/mmf/ mm_09_24_ 
  09http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09
 
 
  There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds
  collecting
  less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just
  scared
  and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy
 when
  stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities,
  which
  were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled
  into
  bonds, CDs and Gold
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik Rei
Hehehehe kan judi terselubung cuma BEI skrg. Ya pak MD? [?]Udah ah.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:34 AM, edwin lumanto edwin_luma...@yahoo.comwrote:



 Because our officials shut down SDSB  PORKAS

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 *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:24:32
 *Subject:* Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy
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 *Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you..

 *

- *Why investor buy stocks?*


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RE: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik Abraham Sihombing
Hahahahaaa...SDSB  PORKAS...it's a jadul product...kekek...

 



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Because our officials shut down SDSB  PORKAS
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From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:24:32
Subject: Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy
stocks

  

Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you..

*   Why investor buy stocks?

 



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Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik Bagus Putra Perdana
because (or when) it offers higher yield (after risk adjustment) compares to
other asset classes.

to measure our yield on investment, we might have our own favorite
preferences.

i personally prefer :

a. Comparable or higher sustainable free cash flow yield i may expect from
my stock 3-5 years period Vs Bond.
b. Understated Hard Assets sitting on the balance, Ripe for acquisition or
un-locking scenario.
c. Solid Bussiness model that can counter inflationary effect (passing
through the inflatianary pressures to their consumers without losing the
sales volume and growth), because virtually a good and solid stock is the
only effective real-hedge against inflation. because they can adjust prices
of their sales to go in line with inflation, hence higher net income, hence
higher real measure income.


how bout u El? i have to say ive been curious, pardon my question,  if u
were sitting on the hat of an investor, what traits would u prefer of ur
holdings/ur stocks? ^_^




On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:24 AM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comwrote:



 *Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you..

 *

- *Why investor buy stocks?*


 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM, highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote:



 Yes, and waiting to get back in...at a discount. Right, El?

 Sent from my computer of course!
 --
 *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy
 stocks



 *This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been
 going nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and
 bonds.
 *
 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah 
 pusatdu...@yahoo.comwrote:


 More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks


 Published: October 22, 2009


 According to some estimates, investors have parked more than
 $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market
 funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the
 game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal,
 that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster
 recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering

 and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number
 might entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of
 this year.

 Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any
 retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief.
 The market continues to feed on its own momentum.

 I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the
 sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz,
 principal at Gregory J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we haven't
 had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally
 pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' 

 According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies
 and oversees ICI activities
 As this link shows :
 http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09


 There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds
 collecting less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are
 just scared and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to
 buy when stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on
 equities, which were selling at generational low price ratios, investors
 instead piled into bonds, CDs and Gold









 

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Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
- Richard Feynman


Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik agung aja
Biar bisa jadi bandar kaka (not KK)
hohoho


regards





From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 10:24:32 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

  
Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you..


* Why investor buy stocks?

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM, highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote:



Yes, and waiting to get back in...at a discount. Right, El? 
Sent from my computer of course!


From: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ gmail.com 
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 +0700
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

  
This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been going 
nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and bonds.


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah pusatdu...@yahoo. com 
wrote:


More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks


Published: October 22, 2009


According to some estimates, investors have parked more than $3,000,000,000, 
000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market funds waiting for 
the markets to calm down before jumping back into the game. Of course, some 
make the argument that if things return to normal, that tremendous liquidity 
would come roaring back in, making a faster recovery possible. Still, by 
recent standards, that amount is staggering

and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number might 
entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of this year.

Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any retreats 
in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief. The market 
continues to feed on its own momentum.

I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the sidelines 
waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz, principal at 
Gregory J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we haven't had any major 
pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally pulling the 
trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' 

According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies and 
oversees ICI activities
As this link shows :
http://www.ici. org/research/ stats/mmf/ mm_09_24_ 09


There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting 
less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared 
and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when 
stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which 
were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into 
bonds, CDs and Gold









 - - --

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Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik vaulstrad
That's why we are still waiting for more upside... 


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-Original Message-
From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

*This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been going
nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and bonds.
*
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah pusatdu...@yahoo.comwrote:


 More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks


 Published: October 22, 2009


 According to some estimates, investors have parked more than
 $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market
 funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the
 game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal,
 that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster
 recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering

 and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number might
 entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of this
 year.

 Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any
 retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief.
 The market continues to feed on its own momentum.

 I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the
 sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz,
 principal at Gregory J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we haven't
 had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally
 pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' 

 According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies and
 oversees ICI activities
 As this link shows :
 http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09


 There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting
 less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared
 and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when
 stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which
 were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into
 bonds, CDs and Gold









 

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 + + + + +
 Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
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 + +Yahoo! Groups Links







Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik www.titan
agree ;)


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 That's why we are still waiting for more upside... 
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@...
 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks
 
 *This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been going
 nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and bonds.
 *
 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah pusatdu...@...wrote:
 
 
  More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks
 
 
  Published: October 22, 2009
 
 
  According to some estimates, investors have parked more than
  $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market
  funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the
  game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal,
  that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster
  recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering
 
  and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number might
  entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of this
  year.
 
  Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any
  retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief.
  The market continues to feed on its own momentum.
 
  I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the
  sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz,
  principal at Gregory J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we haven't
  had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally
  pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' 
 
  According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies and
  oversees ICI activities
  As this link shows :
  http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09
 
 
  There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting
  less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared
  and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when
  stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which
  were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into
  bonds, CDs and Gold
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
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  + + + + +
  Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
  kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
  + + + + +
  + +Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 





Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik It's Elaine!
*I see you focus on microeconomic which is good for stockpicking, I put more
emphasis on the macro such as currency, supply-demand, money flow and others
like insiders, etc, coz even good ones like Astras can drop like shit when
the money's out. [?]*

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Bagus Putra Perdana 
disclosure@gmail.com wrote:



 because (or when) it offers higher yield (after risk adjustment) compares
 to other asset classes.

 to measure our yield on investment, we might have our own favorite
 preferences.

 i personally prefer :

 a. Comparable or higher sustainable free cash flow yield i may expect from
 my stock 3-5 years period Vs Bond.
 b. Understated Hard Assets sitting on the balance, Ripe for acquisition or
 un-locking scenario.
 c. Solid Bussiness model that can counter inflationary effect (passing
 through the inflatianary pressures to their consumers without losing the
 sales volume and growth), because virtually a good and solid stock is the
 only effective real-hedge against inflation. because they can adjust prices
 of their sales to go in line with inflation, hence higher net income, hence
 higher real measure income.


 how bout u El? i have to say ive been curious, pardon my question,  if u
 were sitting on the hat of an investor, what traits would u prefer of ur
 holdings/ur stocks? ^_^





 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:24 AM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comwrote:



 *Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you..

 *

- *Why investor buy stocks?*


 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM, highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote:



 Yes, and waiting to get back in...at a discount. Right, El?

 Sent from my computer of course!
 --
 *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to
 buy stocks



 *This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been
 going nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and
 bonds.
 *
 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah 
 pusatdu...@yahoo.comwrote:


 More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks


 Published: October 22, 2009


 According to some estimates, investors have parked more than
 $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market
 funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the
 game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal,
 that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster
 recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering

 and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number
 might entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of
 this year.

 Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any
 retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief.
 The market continues to feed on its own momentum.

 I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the
 sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz,
 principal at Gregory J. Schwartz  Co. But as time goes by and we haven't
 had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally
 pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' 

 According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies
 and oversees ICI activities
 As this link shows :
 http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09


 There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds
 collecting less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are
 just scared and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is 
 to
 buy when stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on
 equities, which were selling at generational low price ratios, investors
 instead piled into bonds, CDs and Gold









 

 + +
 + + + + +
 Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
 kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
 + + + + +
 + +Yahoo! Groups Links










 --
 Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
 complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
 everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
 we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
 to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
 knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
 - Richard Feynman


 

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Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik Bagus Putra Perdana
Cant Help El, Im Awfully Sucks At Macro. I Repeat Classes On Macro Economic
Back then.

Thanks for the answer Missy...

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:41 AM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comwrote:



 *I see you focus on microeconomic which is good for stockpicking, I put
 more emphasis on the macro such as currency, supply-demand, money flow and
 others like insiders, etc, coz even good ones like Astras can drop like shit
 when the money's out. [?]*








 --
 Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
 complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
 everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
 we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
 to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
 knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
 - Richard Feynman



  




-- 
Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
- Richard Feynman
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